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Fair use - postcards

As a postcard collector and dealer I've got thousands of postcards which I could use to illustrate various articles. As far as I can tell, any postcard published in the UK before 1929 is free to use (correct me if I'm wrong).

What happens if:-

a) it is impossible to tell exactly when a postcard was published? b) a postcard was published after 1928.

In the case of b), would I just upload it on wikipedia with a valid fair use rationale? As the postcards were not published by news agencies, would I be right in thinking that we'd avoid the discussions such as happened with the Chillenden image "stolen" from the BBC?

I don't want to keep having to go through IfDs with images I've uploaded, so would appreciate your advice first before I upload any that fit in either category mentioned above. Mjroots (talk) 10:54, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks, good questions. Give me a bit of time to look at the public domain issue first, that's always terribly confusing. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:23, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, after looking at the PD rules (which as always are quite confusing), it seems that UK postcards would probably mostly fall under the rules mentioned at commons:Template:PD-UK-unknown. Note, however, that the 1938 date isn't fixed, it's just "70y before X". And there's a complication: in order to qualify as PD not only in the UK but also in the US, we need to make sure they are not just PD at home now, but they already were so in 1996. So, you got to calculate not 2008-70=1938, but 1996-70=1926. Which ends up near the 1923 cutoff date we have for the US anyway. Confused? Don't worry, so am I.

So, pre-1923 is safe, pre-1926 is safe, pre-1938 is so-so. For items known to be younger than that, or where there's a substantial likelihood they are younger, you're basically on your own. With fair-use claims, you are probably right that there wouldn't be a lot of issues with commercial interests; other than that, NFCC would of course go by individual cases. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Naturally any fair-use postcard image would need to follow all the rules for fair use images. A rationale would be given for each and every article said images appear in. I have a few cards where it is impossible to give an age, and will therefore treat these as being in copyright as I cannot prove they are out of copyright. Mjroots (talk) 19:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I've added a picture to the Black Mill, Barham article. Have a look over it and let me know what you think. The photo could be as early as 1910 or as late as the mid 1960s, so I've treated it as a copyright photo but noted in the description that it could be out of copyright. The only problem I think there could be is that it is not a small image or low resolution. Both of these can be attended to later if necessary. Mjroots (talk) 18:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sinbad Barron

FYI, I've upgraded the block of Sinbad Barron (talk · contribs) to indefinite. I've done so after reviewing his contribs history - really ugly, it seems like he's been here on a pretty much non-stop mission to vandalise. My gut feeling is that this is a "contributor" who we can do without, but I'd appreciate a second opinion. -- ChrisO (talk) 18:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

images.suite101.com/185696_picture2.jpg

Remember this image - images.suite101.com/185696_picture2.jpg - I've managed to identify most of the people in the photo, they're Scots Guards not the Paras as I first thought. If it is PD I can use it in a couple of articles. How do I confirm it? You mentioned that the website indicated it was public domain but I can't see that anywhere. Justin talk 11:43, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, the claim about the PD status must have been somewhere on the accompanying page where that image was embedded; can't find the link right now, did I not cite it at the time? Sorry I can't be of more help right now. But in any case, IIRC, it didn't really state why and how it would be PD, so it wouldn't be very reliable anyway. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:14, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Image:CIMG0616.JPG

Image:CIMG0616.JPG is an exact duplicate of Image:MacedoniaSquareSkopje.JPG. By the way, I'll upload it to Commons, so you might want to delete them both. Or do we need one here as evidence that its author released it into the public domain? Can you please clear this up for me? Thanks. --iNkubusse 13:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, good to see we now have one. Go ahead with commons, I'll delete those here afterwards. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I completed the assignment of taking photos of Skopje landmarks, weeks ago! I just can't decide which ones to upload because they're too large and there's too many of them. I have some nice images of Ohrid and some other cities and towns as well. By the way, I already uploaded the image to commons. --iNkubusse 15:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Quaternionenadler

Thank you very much for your help with the Quaternionenadler on my user page (N.B. the user page is wrong, I accidentally missed out the first n). I originally created it for the Graphics lab, and I was planning to move it into the main space when the names were completed, so we could make an image map. Anyway, thank you very much for your assistance.--23230 16:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

It's been fun doing. Note, however, that there are still two or three real bad gaps or problems, most notably "n. Sachsen" (which just possibly can't be "Niedersachsen"), I'm also not yet quite certain about the technical meaning of Vicarii. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:28, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Cukiger

Excuse me, Katze, how to deal with this vandal? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jingiby (talk • contribs)

Hmm, you could of course try just reverting him as often as needed. Oh wait, you did that already...? Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Didn't you chuck a revert parole on them? BalkanFever 00:47, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Dang, I did. Both of them, now that I think of it... Fut.Perf. ☼ 05:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of Millennium Cross

Hi, I see you deleted the article Millennium Cross and marked it as copyright infringement.
I don't know what it looked like immediately before you deleted it, but in the recent past (checking the google cache of the page) it had no similar content at all to the page you claimed was copied (http://www.accordions.com/cia/winter_08.htm). (Actually this page only briefly mentions the Millennium Cross, so I do wonder what could have been copied.)
Was deleting it correct? Maybe if it had been changed recently, reverting to an older version would have been more appropriate? --David Edgar (talk) 11:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Oops, my mistake, I meant to delete only the image, not the article. Sorry. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Ban if lifted ?

user:Mike Babic image uploads ban is lifted  ?--Rjecina (talk) 21:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Socks?

Does this name strike you as familiar? BalkanFever 07:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Also, you might want to clarify your apparent involvement in something: Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-09-14 National Liberation War of Macedonia. You are listed as a party. BalkanFever 10:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Revert

why you revert my posts in the greek language discussion page? Iaberis (talk) 13:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Because you were insulting other participants. Don't do that. Your comments were also quite futile, as they were directed at a discussion that was dead for two years. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

You should have just removed the "insulting" post, not my whole comments then Iaberis (talk) 16:08, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Persistent vandal IP on Himare

Hi Future,

Would it possible for you to semi-protect Himare for a while? This guy is pretty disruptive, and seems to be unstoppable. --Tsourkpk (talk) 13:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Greek Language

Could you have a look at the history section. I made some changes in the definitions of Medieval and Modern Greek, but I may be confusing the Greek Terminology with the english one. I am not sure whether η Βυζαντινή Δημώδης correspronds to what the English call Byzantine Greek. The previous version confused the vernacular and the archaising forms used for different purposes during the byzantine period. The statement that the 11th century corresponds to late Byzantium rather than the middle Byzantine Period is most certainly a mistake--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 13:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

CU clarification: Wikinger/Aminullah

Hi, just for clarification: you did actually verify that User:Aminullah (the original user active since 2006) was the same as User:Wikinger, right? Because the CU request was most certainly done by Wikinger himself, who has been waging an absurd socking campaign to get Aminullah blocked as his own sock - a campaign that I had the feeling looked a good deal like a joe job / impersonation stunt, in revenge for Wikinger's own ban. He had just recently created impersonator accounts like AminuIIah (talk · contribs) (capital-i-for-l name spoof) for the same purpose, and several other really nasty little impersonation attempts with other users.

Just wanted to make sure you really checked the right accounts there, because Wikinger is quite adept at muddying the waters with forged "evidence". Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I've just sent you an e-mail. fayssal / Wiki me up® 19:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

You did good blocking Aminullah, especially because Aminullah/Al-Bargit/Nolik, hence Wikinger trolls here on the same topics: http://pingwinojad.blog.pl/komentarze/index.php?nid=12717425 and because obvious pagemove: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk%3AAl-Bargit&diff=208104792&oldid=128120913 91.94.105.66 (talk) 12:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/User:Aminullah/Archive#Correct_Chechen_spelling Both user:Al-Bargit (Wikinger sock) and user:Aminullah have their talks on the same talkpage treated as their common own talk, thus they are sockpuppets of Wikinger. 91.94.141.108 (talk) 14:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikinger trolls again: http://pingwinojad.blog.pl/xiega/index.php under the same Aminullah/Al-Bargit/Nolik sockpuppets. 87.96.112.224 (talk) 18:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, could you stop your trolling? If you are not what what you claim is him then you should be the other one. Either way, you should stop it. Next time, I'll block your IPs. Understood? fayssal / Wiki me up® 19:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, understood. Thanks for help in this all. Goodbye! 87.96.112.224 (talk) 19:18, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Never come again here to create impostors and ask us to block someone. -- fayssal / Wiki me up® 07:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Regular Vandalism to a Couple of Articles

There are a couple of articles, Finders Keepers (computer game) and Nicholas Evans, that are currently being vandalised regularly by an anonymous user. I've been reverting the vandalism when I see it, but it's becoming rather boring and this pest seems to be very persistent. Would you mind protecting these articles for a while? The Stickler (talk) 16:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

...πάλι καθάρισες. Σ' ευχαριστώ--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 10:27, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Lingua franca

The lingua franca article is a mess. I have removed some of the most flagrant boosterism, but it really needs some guidance from someone who knows the literature and who can propose a crisp definition (or definitions) which will guide the content of the article. Or perhaps the term has been abandoned by the sociolinguists and thus can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean? --macrakis (talk) 03:29, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Adam J. Yeend

G'day,

The page Adam J. Yeend seems to have no reason according to Misplaced Pages:Notability to exist on wikipedia and seems to be completely created by either the person themself, or their agent.

Hopeless soapboxer

Hi!

I want to ask you for your opinion on something if you don't mind. GriffinSB (talk · contribs) is an editor who started editing in the ex-YU area of articles about a year ago. In that time, I don't think he has made a single solitary edit on anything not related to Serbs or Croats, ie not a single vandalism revert or formatting a reference or !voting in an RfA. That in itself is not my issue. My issue is that GriffinSB seems to be motivated politically rather than being here to actually improve Misplaced Pages. He spends most of his time on here soapboxing about "Serbian ultranationalists" this and "Serb apologists" that (, , , ). From some of his comments, such as this one, I have a hard time assuming good faith that evey time he uses words like "nationalist", "apologist" etc after the word "Serbian", he actually means to only say "Serbs" or "Serbian". His rhetoric is starting to sound almost blatantly hateful towards Serbs to the point where even Croatian editors point out to him the racial conotations of his comments ().

I've warned him a few times about some of these things but then I tried to stay away from him as much as I could because, in the ex-Yu realm, it is next to impossible to be persistent on something without being reported to the WP:ANI as a POV pusher or stalker or even to the WP:AIV as a vandal. In all honesty, my skin is not thick enough. I'm on here (Misplaced Pages) as a hobby. It's just something to do while work is slow. Having said that, I think he may have just went overboard with his hatred of "Serb nationalists". He made a series of edits to his userpage recently where, I'm guessing, he tried to post a non-existent userbox advocating a death penalty, through various means, for Serb-somethingorothers (, , , , ). The biggest problem with advocating the death penalty for such a group of people is that his definition of these "nationalists/apologists/propagandists" is very broad and he has accused several Misplaced Pages editors of falling into these categories. In addition to some of the soapboxing diffs I provided earlier where he accuses editors of being "Serbian nationalists", he also left this very specific message for an editor, calling him an apologist. I don't think that calling people "apologists" and "nationalists" and then advocating the death penalty for those same "apologists" and "nationalists" is conducive to a collaborative environment.

So I guess what I'm asking from you is an opinion on whether his soapboxing is just annoying and harmless or if it's causing more unnecessary friction in an already volatile area of the encyclopedia.

Thanks, as always!

Peace! SWik78 (talk • contribs) 14:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Macedonian diaspora

Hi Fut. let me ask you the same question I asked to Pmanderson, I'm Macedonian living in the UK, why I'm not part of the "Macedonian diaspora"?--   Avg    11:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

In common English usage as understood by most native speakers, you aren't, or only very marginally so. Fut.Perf. ☼ 11:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I honestly cannot understand how a third person can define what I am and what I'm not. Isn't this what you accuse the "nationalist" Greeks of? --   Avg    11:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)