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Let's learn Korean

안녕~ Annyeong~ (IPA: ) Hi	훗, Hut (IPA: ) Er	옛다 관심~ Yetda gwansim~ (IPA: ) Here, you caught my attention

blue sea

Meatpuppet?

Bouncehoper: What the crap is a meatpuppet?

Baegis: A marionette that subsists on a diet solely of meat and its derivatives.

Bouncehoper: ...How is that different than a sockpuppet? (also, makes me hungry....)

Baegis: Sockpuppets, of course, eat cotton products, which are severely lacking in nutrition and deliciousness.

Bouncehoper: How....strange....lol. thanks!

from Baegis's talk page

Email

You said I could e-mail you but you never gave me your e-mail there.--Chef Tanner (talk) 21:57, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

ah, I never realized that was there haha.--Chef Tanner (talk) 22:03, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

New name

Ah, the weather... as good a reason for changing names as any, I guess! I remember the summers in Korea-- I loved Fall and Spring, could tolerate Winter, but summer? Hot, muggy, sticky, sudden downpours... Nah... Here it only gets 113 degrees or so in the summer, but it's a dry heat... Dekkappai (talk) 00:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Korean cuisine template

Kinda tired and need to get up early tomorrow, i will look at it in the afternoon when I get home. I think it is a great concept, I think it just needs to have more working links though. We'll talk more about it tomorrow, oh and call me Chris, my last name is Tanner.Chef Tanner (talk) 04:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

I looked at it also, and it looks great! fix the links and I would take it live ASAP. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 08:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Korea/Popular culture + manhwa

Hola. I just figured out who you are...your earlier comment about changing your name had puzzled me. :) I came here after viewing the Zombie Hunter article history of edit wars over use of the word "manga". It was like deja-vu, ha ha. Anyway, what actually brought me here was that you'd tagged said article with a WP Korea/Popular culture working group template, and I'm hoping you'll take a moment to pop over to my user talk page and respond to some questions I have about manhwa articles in general. I'm inviting a couple other folks to the chat too, and want to centralize the discussion. Thanks so much!! --hamu♥hamu (talk) 12:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

invitation to join the Korea group

Let me think about it; I'm not Korean nor do I have a connection to the country, other than liking the food. Does that matter? Queenmomcat (talk) 15:43, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: As your advice at WP:AIV

It is not vandalism. You are both disputing over content. Take it to WP:ANI, but not WP:AIV. Gary King (talk) 18:22, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Korean food

You're welcome! I'm glad to know the "article polishing" wasn't taken amiss; I was trying to edit only for grammar, vocabulary and the like. I'm still feeling around the etiquette aspects of Misplaced Pages. Queenmomcat (talk) 20:29, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Damn good work

		The Half Barnstar
		You and Chris have finally taken the Korean cuisine article to where it can and should have always been. Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 16:16, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Anna May Wong

Thanks, Caspian! That was a long, hard process, but it turned out for the best. And now I can breathe easy and look for a new major project! Cheers! Dekkappai (talk) 19:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Username

Hello. The origin of this username is described here. I have on my userpage source of this translation. If vandal-fighting with this username is offensive I will stop reverting edits, because unified accounts cannot be renamed and I don't want to experiment with buggy deletion of global account. Invisible Idiot (talk) 16:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for advice! :-) Invisible Idiot (talk) 16:20, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Manhwa project is a go!

I've just been informed that manhwa and other Asian comics have a home in the Comics Wikiproject's World Comics working group! Their omission from the scope was an accidental oversight, and will be rectified in the near future. Please head over to the project and add your name to the general participants list as well as the world comics participants list, and start tagging manhwa articles' talk pages with the group's template. Go ahead and add Korea Wikiproject's template, too, if it's not already there. Please also check out the working group's talk page, where I'm about to start a very rough list of possible tasks. I'm really excited and look forward to working with you! --hamu♥hamu (talk) 03:57, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks for your compliments! Right now we're just hacking out some really basic stuff, so drop by whenever you're able– no rush. :) --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 22:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar and FYI, Kirill and I decided those were likely Davkal socks and I tagged as such, as well as blocked all three. — Rlevse • Talk • 12:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

need some help from TKD article(JJL)

Yesterday, i read carefully Talk:Taekwondo/Archive 4, but there is no one permitted JJL's edit. by the mediation(Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Taekwondo), mediators are not accept JJL's POV edit. but i still do not understand why article is remained JJL's pov edit. may i ask you, if you are not busy please participate in this discussion.Manacpowers (talk) 04:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hwang Jin-i (TV series)

Hi, Caspian. I don't know if you noticed, but this very notable TV series has been put up for deletion. I've done a little work on it, but a series as notable as this no doubt has a lot more that can be written on it. If you can point me to some good Korean articles on it, I'll try to work through them for some information, and at least add them as more sourcing to the article. (Also-- I try to stay out of this kind of thing, since I have a strong interest in both Japan and Korea-- but Kusunose's editing of Kim Dae-jung's birthplace has me wondering if he considers anyone born in Japan between 1945 and 1952 as "American births?"... :-) Dekkappai (talk) 21:29, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, we all have our biases, we just have to keep them out of our editing. Maybe he just had a moment of weakness... I'm having some very strange bot-trouble with the image to the TV series also. It's been tagged twice as unsourced, when the source is quite plainly there... I'd hate to see as lovely an image as that be deleted for no good reason. :-) Dekkappai (talk) 21:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, I don't want to guess about his honne, as long as Wiki-tatemae is observed, we will be OK... Though with these absurd AfDs, and officially-approved vandalism-by-bot, I sometimes have very serious doubts about Wiki-tatemae too! :-) Anyway, I'll try to get the Hwang Jin-i article up to decent quality in time. Dekkappai (talk) 22:02, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Caspian. I just wanted to point out your comment on AfD "..I don't understand the nominator's definition of "'notability'" was innappropriate. I think this comment was innappropriate, even if you made it unintentionally. Better re-phrased would have been "This article meets the definition of WP:N because...", and you would have gotten your point across just as much, or even more effectively, and would have avoided making it personal. Cheers, for now. Halifax Nomad (talk) 23:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

To me, your above comment is inappropriate.--Caspian blue (talk) 23:20, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe I'm overthinking it, I agree there. I only singled out your comment because you have already pointed out some of my flaws. :) As far as other people using that comment, maybe that's so, but that doesn't make it right, or the best way of arguing your point. And when you you use the phrase "you're a newbie, so...", again you're focusing on me rather than my argument which goes against the spirit of wikipedia. Anyways, I don't want to get in an argument about it. I'm not here to be hostile and I will say no more about it. Halifax Nomad (talk) 23:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

It's not retaliation. If it was, I would have waited to go to an admin. I'm not petty like that, and I won't. As for why I didn't mention anything to Dekkappai, I felt he was out of line actually, definitely more so than you. Not intentionally, just taking something personally that isn't personal. But since I haven't dealt with him already, I didn't feel comfortable mentioning anything to him. You've spoken with me before, and I feel you're rational enough to take advice (and give it) and to stay civil about it in a conversation. Halifax Nomad (talk) 23:38, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

(ce) Just my 2-cents: I find it odd to pick out Caspian's comment, when I was the one who got really hot under the collar over the AfD. However I think Caspian's comment is entirely appropriate-- it is the opinion, not the user, that he questioned. My comments also, though more passionate, still address the argument, the AfD, not the user. I don't think either Caspian or I ever "attacked" the nominator in any way, only the AfD and the arguments. Also, I don't feel it is inappropriate to become upset over a clearly inappropriate AfD, which I think this one is. It wastes the time of a lot of editors, and it potentially removes perfectly good information from Misplaced Pages. If the article is poorly written and sourced, we can fix this, but an AfD is not a constructive way to ask another editor to work on an article. Dekkappai (talk) 23:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Citations on Korean Cuisine

Hey there, I have been adding citations in what is known as Chicago format, and just to keep in consistency would like to keep new citations in that format. The citation templates you are using are actually not any real format, they are sort of a bastardization of Harvard citation and citation formats shouldn't be mixed. As I have used Chicago format in all the other cuisine articles, as has Peter Isotola (spelling?) from WikiProject Food and Drink, I would like to keep it that way, i hope you don't mind. It is the most popularly used citation format in academic humanities writing, which cuisine writing falls under.Chef Tanner (talk) 01:37, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

It is what we use in this sort of academic writing in American universities though, I can say it is a bias of mine, but based upon my academic work in universities and how this type of work is usually published in the humanities.--Chef Tanner (talk) 02:01, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

BTW, thanks for the comment on the DYK entry for Korean cuisine.Chef Tanner (talk) 02:03, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Well that dishes section is just an atrocity right now. I can't work on it until next week though. Real life has precedence right now.Chef Tanner (talk) 02:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I have sources to edit that, but just don't have them with me here. I'm away from home right now visiting a historic site for research. I won't be able to do any work again until next Monday.Chef Tanner (talk) 02:35, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

ANI

Hey, got your note about the ANI and I'm keeping my eye on it. Try to keep your temper in check. Your English is excellent, but I've noticed when you get riled up, it gets a bit more Engrishy and hard to understand. :) I'd just tell you to ignore him and what he does on his talk page, but I know it's not that easy. --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 06:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Songpa-gu

Hi, Caspian. I'll try to watch my temper and keep us both out of trouble today :-) I noticed an anon edited my old neighborhood-- Songpa-gu-- to add the fact that it has a female mayor now. I copy-edited the sentence, but couldn't find a good source for her election in July of 2006, though I did find her name all over in the news. Dekkappai (talk) 18:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Caspian! I liked that place a lot and visit the old neighborhood whenever I'm back in Seoul. When I was there, you could look one way and see farmland, and the other way and see city. Now it's all city... :-( Dekkappai (talk) 03:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Right, I lived there not long after Olympic Park was built. Dekkappai (talk) 06:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for the welcome! Ron James 007 (talk) 22:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

TKD

I need some help. I know you are neutral editor. I'm not a native english. My english is not a pretty well. JJL rv. my edit and reason is "ungrammatical". if you are not busy, can you help me correct grammar in "Modern taekwondo" part? He rv. again again... pushing POV as possilbe as he can. i do not think my edit part is ungrammatical.(actually, quote from english source) 만약 한국인이시면 문법 편집좀 도와주세요. 그냥 중립이라고만 하지말고, 사실 학계에서 JJL의 가라데POV는 극히 소수인데, JJL은 그것을 정론으로 기입하려는 것이 문제라고 생각합니다. Manacpowers (talk) 05:06, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I'd suspect the Olympic was not bating but a genuine question coming at an in opportune moment, I'd say best to just leave it and let it die out. --Nate1481 08:11, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough, I didn't know there was background, sometimes the best thing to do with a stalker is to ignore them and see if they get bored, if not their escalating actions in an attempt to get a response, will usually end up with them being reprimanded by others or blocked if they persist. Either way it saves you the stress of repeated arguments, see Do not feed the Trolls;) --Nate1481 15:16, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

APPLE TREES

Hello. Is this you?? Why did you change your name? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 12:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Cool blue huh? Sometimes its good for a change. Perhaps I should change my name to Goldfinger and become a fat slob obsessed with gold and hire a Korean henchman to kill people with his hat? LOL. I could have sworn there was already another user with a similar name! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 13:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

You have a tooth made from gold. Thats cool! See Goldie LOL. Yes I like my user name but I was considering adding a "Doctor" element to it to emphasise the "evil" of Blofeld. A doctorate in evil medicine lol. What about you, do you have any projects in the pipeline any articles you are working towards a GA or FA in? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 13:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes Goldie isn't cool. Bling just shows he is a pauper trying to to look rich, typical chav! I read the Korean cuisine article a few weeks back and looked good. One thing that threw me though was why the main image of the article was red linked? I thought we'd have a seperate article on it! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 13:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL have a look at the first two names in Template:Norse mythology. "Baldr" and "Friggin". Hehe ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 13:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Ye or Bathory or Opeth. LOL. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 14:11, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... I've been thinking of changing my name to something that had a good meaning in both Korean and Japanese. But "The_Friggin_Baldr"? You give something to think about there. Blofeld... Might suit me well. :-) Dekkappai (talk) 15:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL. Now heres a bad ass. See Chan Shen. A Hong Kong Blofeld? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 20:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Moving misnamed Korean articles

Hey, I see you're doing some moving of Korean person articles that don't follow WP:NC-KO. I posted about that at WP:KOREA a little while ago, and never got any answer. You've been around longer than me - is that something that's done on a regular basis? I'd sure like to do it because right now wikilinking is a freaking nightmare. :) Oh but aren't they supposed to be lower case after the hyphen? (damn wikipedia case sensitivity) --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 04:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh yes, I knew about the surname first. I was wondering whether the part after the hyphen is supposed to be capitalized.  :) --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 04:29, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

LOL I wasn't sure! --hamu♥hamu (TALK) 04:31, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Rfa thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA. The Rfa was successful with 64 Support and 1 Neutral. None of this would have happened without your support. I would also like to thank my nominator Wizardman and my sensei/co-nom bibliomaniac15--Lenticel 09:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Myungbaksanseong

이 단어은 명백히 propaganda목적(단어를 널리 선전하는)으로 올린 것입니다. 도저히 유행어에도 되지 않는 단어입니다.--H.L.LEE (talk) 01:15, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Dear, Hyolee2, I understand your concern, but the template is not really necessary for the article, because anyone who objects to the tagging, it could be easily removed as I did. If you're so concerned about the neologism being here, try to put {{subst:AFD}} with plausible rationales. Then I will leave my input there as would others --Caspian blue (talk) 01:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Me

No, I am not 이형주님 in Korean Wiki, but strange, having a similar weiting style with someone. Happy editing! (PS: I'm jimmy0704 in Korean Wiki.)Jimmy0704 (talk) 11:58, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Films

Well, in my experience, most American film audiences are actually far more provincial than either Koreans or Japanese. In Korea or Japan it's pretty commonplace to watch a foreign film, but in America-- unless you're in a big city-- it's something unusual, and probably the vast majority never do-- unless it's a dubbed Godzilla movie or a "Spaghetti Western"... I know Korea blocked Japanese films for many decades-- I "smuggled" copies of Seven Samurai and Ikiru into Korea once to show them to my in-laws. The films amazed them in many ways... Anyway, about Yasujirō Ozu-- he's definitely not for everyone's taste, far too slow and contemplative for most American audiences, certainly, and even some of my Korean and Japanese relatives fine him too slow. I was lucky to grow up with Mizoguchi and Ozu though. Watching Ozu now, decades later, as an adult, I appreciate a lot more of the depth under the stillness of his films. Yes-- definitely, look for some and give them a try. Dekkappai (talk) 17:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Oh, the Japanese love their dynamic movies too, you know :-) Check out the exploitation films of the late '60s and '70s-- the Scorpion series or some of the better works of Norifumi Suzuki or Teruo Ishii-- wild and crazy stuff! I do agree that the Japanese cinema has fallen on hard times while the Korean cinema has risen. Not only the anime but all that boring, childish (to me) horror stuff... all the same thing... As a matter of fact one reason I put off watching Spider Forest so long was that I thought it would be just another boring horror movie. (It turned out to be one of my favorite movies of recent years.) Takeshi Kitano is about the only Japanese director I know of working today that I really like-- at least every movie of his I've seen-- I've seen three, I think. Other prominent directors today, like Kiyoshi Kurosawa, remind me of Korea's Kim Ki-duk-- talented, but aimless, they never fulfill the promise of their ideas... Anyway, if you get a chance, give Ozu a chance-- some of the greatest films ever made anywhere, I think, and many film critics say the same. Dekkappai (talk) 19:40, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Anti-American sentiment in Korea

Anti-American sentiment in Korea에 미군 여중생 장갑차 살인사건에 대한 한국 내의 반미감정에 대한 내용이 전혀없네요. 정작 한국에서는 당시 동계올림픽 사건 보다 더 큰 화두였는데도 영문 위키에는 여중생 살해 사건이 단 한개의 문장도 없습니다. 죄송한 말씀이지만 아무래도 저보다 영어실력이 뛰어나신 님께서 이 부문을 만들어 보시는 게 어떨까요? --Historiographer (talk) 16:25, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Pardon me for butting in-- Do we already have an article on that incident started, Historiographer? It seems to me certainly "notable" enough for its own article. And if we do have one started, it can be summarized and sourced and put into the Anti-American sentiment in Korea article. I wouldn't think it needs a large section at that article, since, though it's a major source for the sentiment today, really, it's only a relatively recent one. The sentiment itself goes back at least half a century, I would think. Anyway-- the subject is outside of my normal editing area, but if you need copyedit/English help, I'll be happy to help. Regards. Dekkappai (talk) 16:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Also, just looking over the article-- it looks like it's becoming a sort of a list of incidents and "in pop culture"... (do The Host and that one song really deserve entire sections here?-- it seems to tilt the article far towards recent events and pop culture...) I'd recommend making it into more a discussion of the sentiment, its origins, its influence, and working these individual incidents and expression into the body of the narrative. Also, to avoid being labeled "POV", an article like this one should be extra careful to provide sourcing and try to present the story in a neutral tone of voice. Just my thoughts though, and I won't be working much on the article, but good luck with it! Dekkappai (talk) 17:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Right-- I understand, and I agree... it seems to me the kind of thing that Misplaced Pages does worst, since people's emotions and biases get involved. It's completely worthy of an article, not one I'd be interested in working on though. True-- I was trying to put it diplomatically-- but the article looks like a collection of what one editor could think of off the top of his head. A subject like this could have a good, encyclopedic, historically-based article though. So I'm just offering help on English copyedit, thinking that this is the kind of thing that will come up for deletion on baseless grounds like "poor English". Anyway, take care, and cheers! Dekkappai (talk) 17:35, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hwajeon

On 28 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hwajeon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 20:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Name change ;)

I never knew you changed names :) I went to notify "Appletrees" of the Korea library discussion and then realised you were already well aware ;) _{TravellingCari} 12:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

No worries. I too am surprised re: the lack of a libraries wikiproject. That's, in part, why I adopted libraries and galleries in the museums deletion sorting, that's how I became aware of the AfD. I'm a bit busy the next couple of week's with a friend's wedding and then moving but if you want to see about starting a project, I'm happy to help. Let me know _{TravellingCari} 15:05, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Claude Debussy

The Opera Project works closely with the other classical music projects. Where a composer is less than 50% opera we leave the article in the primary care of the Composers Project. If the Opera Project banner appears on an article it means it is included in automated lists such as Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Opera/Cleanup listing. This may not be appropriate. In this case I just removed the banner following a complaint. Can you possibly unrevert now? --Kleinzach 04:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I was frequently editing opera articles long ago, mostly French operas. Although Debussy composed a few operas, he left a big step in opera history and I only follow such view as do others (somebody might put the banner for that reason obviously). Besides, I'm also a member of WikiProject Museum and it is not odd that museum articles have somewhat overlapped wikiproject banners such as WP:WikiProject Architecture and WP:WikiProject Museum. Therefore, I can't agree with your point of view. Sorry.--Caspian blue (talk)

First of all I do know Pelléas et Mélisande quite well. It's important to understand that banners are not for readers, they are linked with categories which are used by bots for automatic sorting. If articles are in the wrong batches it wastes the time of (human) editors. Debussy is correctly categorized as an 'opera composer' and is present in a number of Category:Opera-related lists. (You can check this out.) In this case Debussy was incorrectly tagged for work by the Opera Project because of the Opera banner. I don't do edit wars so I'm not reverting. I hope you will read this comment, understand my point and revert yourself. You don't need to apologize but please understand that banners are not just decorative spam as you appear to be suggesting. Thank you for reading this. --Kleinzach 05:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I do not think that banner is a decorative spam as you accuse. (I'm hurt by your reckless comment). Besides, I DO KNOW well the suggested list and article because I translated them into Korean for Korean Wikiproject. Besides, I did not apologize to you at all. "sorry" means "regretful" as well. I do have no intention to revert the talk page myself.--Caspian blue (talk) 05:16, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

So, please tell me: what are banners for? Do you know? --Kleinzach 06:41, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Manacpowers

As you appear to be flaunt in Korean and English could you translate some of the comments (or a summary of them) for Manacpowers as he appears to have misunderstood several of my, an other editors, contributions and intentions on Talk:Taekwondo. Thanks for your time --Nate1481(/_c) 09:21, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah well, thanks any way. It helps to know that I am not coming across as one sided in general. --Nate1481(/_c) 07:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

i redirect page of history of taekwondo to tkd. like history of karate. Manacpowers (talk) 12:12, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD/DRV

Annyeong haseyo. Except for counting to 10 and naming a few Tae-Kwan-Do techniques, that completely exhausts my grasp of Korean  : )

I've commented at the DRV (and of course Gwen's page) that the close was technically proper and correct. However, that doesn't mean that the all information need be lost. It might be very reasonable to place at least some of the info into a related article, along with the proper cites and refs. Personally I don't know enough about the topic to suggest a specific article, but you seem very familiar with it yourself, so I'm sure you could think of something. I wanted to mention this just in case you didn't realize it was a possibility. Doc Tropics 17:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC) PS - I really enjoyed the pictures on your page, very nice!

RfA

Ask away--Chef Tanner (talk) 19:14, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I can ask her to remove the comment if you wish. I'll try and find now. Rudget (logs) 20:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your !vote at my RFA

Thank you, Caspian blue, for your oppose !vote at my RFA. I will learn from the issues you raised and, in the future, I hope to show you that your concerns have been eliminated. --lifebaka (Talk - Contribs) 18:46, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

fgs

Means for gods sake, why did the sudden victim complex of paranoia begin to take root in your mind? for goodness sake, why dont you go edit all the other hundreds and thousands of pages with (perhaps questionable) but nontheless in public domain lyrics? Have you even watched the video? they ARE the proper lyrics and they are on that myspace, whats the big deal? are you going to hide behind flawd wikipedia WIKI:RULES or make a common sense decision.

And Im not going to get into an edit war over something so fucking stupid as that, go do your thing, and then think about it hard. grow upΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ() 21:30, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Dude...

I am not attacking you, grow up and stop whining. Now, your editing the page, a pretty devicive issue yes? well why havent you watched the REAL video that is linked from the page rather than the myspace FAN video??? Watch that and THEN compare the lyrics, do that make your decision, of course we know what that is already, even though you clearly havent even properly dealt with the whole page (wrong video, not the REAL video made by Yoon min-suk which, since you seem to be too unconcerned about reasearching before you edit, i will include here). Goodbye and dont talk to me again please, you have pissed me off and i dont want to talk to you ever again..."regards" ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ() 21:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

...

I told you i dont care what you do and that i dont want to talk with you anymore, its silly, childish and petty, do what you will im done with it and stop messaging me, never do it again..."thanks". ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ() 22:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

dude...

I am NOT attacking you, just stop leaving messages on my page now ok? like ive asked you the last two times to do, i was simply saying that this whole situation is childish and i cant be bothered with it. goodbye and have a nice life ok? thank you ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ() 22:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		To Caspian blue, for maintaining a neutral viewpoint and protecting Misplaced Pages's standards. Axl (talk) 07:13, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

I refer to the unpleasant exchange with Terrasidius. Axl (talk) 15:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for expanding List of online encyclopedias in the face of its AfD. The Transhumanist    21:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. :-) --Caspian blue (talk) 00:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

3RR notice board

When Manac took the dispute on to other articles and then patronisingly quoted my words back at me. I got fed up & raised it their as I just want to walk away and edit somewere usefull not spend ages smacking my head against a brick wall, trying to explain that he has missed the point. But i did want to know that he wasn't going to have free range to disrupt wikipedia. --Nate1481(/_c) 15:22, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!

I sincerely thank you for the barnstar! Scapler (talk) 15:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. You deserve it.--Caspian blue (talk) 16:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008

WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter July 2008

--Chef Tanner (talk) 16:06, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your effort. :)--Caspian blue (talk) 16:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

In case you're not watching...

Liancourt Rocks

Re - I'm curious - why was this "naming lameness" that deserved a revert? Neıl 龱 08:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Response

In response to a message left on my user talk page:

Commons

Hi, I appreciate that you share and upload your quality photos with Misplaced Pages. However I ask you a favor regarding the uploading. If you directly upload images to Commons, everybody out of English Misplaced Pages can access the images easily and may use them related articles. Besides, transferring images to Commons requires many times, but also removes the history of your contributions, so I wish for the next time, you upload to Commons. If you think that tagging category is troublesome, just add Commons:Category:Korea to photos. So I or others would implement the categorization. Would you consider my suggestion? Thanks--Caspian blue (talk) 18:19, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

It must be evident that I am very new and green at this whole Wiki thing. So new that I have never attempted to communicate to anyone within the user community before and even though I've read through pages and pages of help, don't even understand if I am indeed responding to you in a proper manor and location. My since apologies if I am in the wrong spot here.

It is very clear that this whole Wiki project is put to together and administered by committee. To find any information or assistance must link through page after page after page . . . you get the idea. Guidelines, templates, formatting, editing, licensing - the list goes on and on.

Back to the subject at hand. Pursuant to your request to add photos to "Commons", I sought out the help pages (again) in hopes I would be able to get an understanding the how's and why's of using "Commons". After a very frustrating half hour or so of clicking through link after link on help pages, I gave up in defeat. I did however come across a page where there was a vote asking users which way they thought photos should be added: on subject pages or Commons categories. The vote seem to be tied.

In light of this apparent debate and with respect to your position within the community, your obvious skills in navigating the rules, regulations and Misplaced Pages's idiosyncrasies, am going decline compliance with your request until such time I can get my hands around this whole Commons area issue.

I am also unclear what you mean by the statement "Besides, transferring images to Commons requires many times, but also removes the history of your contributions," from your post.

Thank you for acknowledging my efforts.

Steve46814 (talk) 01:58, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Retiring

Sorry, Caspian-- I'm just sick of the deletionist nonsense we have to fight to keep material from being deleted here, and the time it takes away from editing projects I'd like to work on... This is the straw that broke the camel's back, but there is a lot behind that one... Take care! Dekkappai (talk) 23:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Baengnyeongdo images

Ahh, now I understand why we don't have any pictures of the island. I knew it was a popular vacation spot, but I didn't know it's mainly popular with older people. Thanks for pointing me to dcinside. I suppose I could try writing to the chaplain (his pictures are quite nice), but as you said, it's always a bit awkward writing to a stranger about something like that, and besides, my Korean is atrocious! Thanks too about the maps. I'm just learning how to make them, so any comments or suggestions for how to improve them would be great. I'm thinking of making maps to show the islands belonging to Inchon. --Amble (talk) 03:44, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

DYK - Park Kyung-ni

On 13 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Park Kyung-ni, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Rudget (logs) 10:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Namsadang

On 14 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Namsadang, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 13:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep up the good work!!!!!!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 14:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I can feel your warmth in this hot water! Happy editing. :) --Caspian blue (talk) 14:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Sotdae

On 15 July, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sotdae, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 17:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

AFD related related messages

• Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2008 July 16

Korean war crimes

where did it go Good friend100 (talk) 08:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for mediation not accepted

A Request for Mediation to which you were are a party was not accepted and has been delisted. You can find more information on the case subpage, Misplaced Pages:Requests for mediation/Taekwondo 2. For the Mediation Committee, WJBscribe (talk) 17:30, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Chinilpa

Not sure if you've noticed or not, but I've created a proper discussion area for the requested move proposed by Ex-oneatf. If you oppose the move, it might be an idea to say so. If no one comments, there is a good chance the article will be moved. Regards. PC78 (talk) 14:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if it's really necessary to have a section on the project page. I'll mention it on the project talk page, though. PC78 (talk) 14:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

McCune-Reischauer

Be careful in making changes to the M-R transliterations; some of them were correct before your changes. Please take a look at the table in McCune-Reischauer. The M-R and Revised romanizations have different rules for use of p/b, t/d, etc., but neither scheme is simple, and converting between them is more complicated than b-p, etc. For example, "일본" is "ilbon" in either system, and never "ilpon." The rules are subtle enough that it's worth printing out the table as a reference. --Amble (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, please be careful, then. That was not meant as a warning, but as a friendly note for your information. My ethnic background is of no importance here. Please check the rules for yourself, since we have articles about both systems of romanization, with handy tables. --Amble (talk) 22:48, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I see what you mean. I thought you were implying that I have to be Korean to know the systems of Romanization, but that's not what you meant. To me, "Be careful with..." is not really a specific command, but more a way of calling someone's attention to something. It's funny, but saying "please" in that context can actually make it more imperative. If I say to someone "Watch the power cord," it's just a way of making sure they see it. If I say "Please watch the power cord," it sounds more like they have already kicked it once or twice and I don't think they're paying attention. And if I say "Will you please watch the power cord," that shows some frustration! So anyway, my apologies for the miscommunication, and please take the posting above as FYI. --Amble (talk) 23:20, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

(And you're right, since communication online is an imperfect art, it's better to be too polite than too brusque. I'll try to keep it in mind.) --Amble (talk) 23:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Engrish? I didn't know you could speak Engrish too. :-) Seriously, your English is great. --Amble (talk) 23:53, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Rice cultivation

Do you know the problem well? If you know well, please cite some section of the referece book or others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.230.158.39 (talk) 17:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Japanese cuisine

I semi-protected the page for 30 days, if it continues after thirty days I will make it indefinite. I restored my edits, i need to go through the rest of the page still.--Chef Tanner (talk) 21:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Well stated comment, I can be a bit shirt with my responces sometimes and you stated it very clearly, thanks.--Chef Tanner (talk) 20:51, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

잘 보고 RV를 해 줍쇼

I'm not keeps inserting fansite. 다른 위키사전을 넣었는데도 RV해버리는구려 뷁 -- MISA☆ Amane 12:47, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

RFB

It hasn't been transcluded yet, so you cannot !vote, feel free to reinsert once it is live. MBisanz 02:15, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

In the past people have complained that pre-transclusion supports bias the vote in favor of the candidate. Since I want to avoid that controversy at this RFA, could you just wait a couple more minutes until he transcludes? I'm the nom and I'm even waiting. MBisanz 02:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for being harsh, but I've seen people Oppose RfX votes before just on pre-transclude !votes. I'll reinsert your statement, above mine, as soon as it is live. MBisanz 02:24, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

 Done MBisanz 02:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Majorly and AN/I

Hello - the thread has been archived again (by someone else), please don't unarchive it. The AN/I thread can't accomplish anything further - if you want Majorly to take some other action, you can ask him on his talkpage. If you want further review of his admin actions, you can file a case at WP:RFAR. Otherwise, there isn't anything else that can be done. Avruch 22:17, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Dekka

Hi. What happened to Dekka? I knwew he was getting frustrated with wikipedia's "policies" but I had hoped he would try to ignore it. P.S what happened with the Korean settlement boxes after did you add a map to them? I was only of course kidding when I appeared to be offended by the overly elaborate Lhasa infobox ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 12:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for Mediation

I filed a request for mediation regarding the ongoing issues over sensitive Korean-Japanese topics. --Lucyintheskywithdada (talk) 06:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

• Note This user has been indefinitely blocked for massive sockpuppeting, disruptions, harassment, etc.--Caspian blue (talk) 01:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

My apologies

Dear Mr. Kim,

I offer you my most sincerest apologies in regards to the misunderstanding that occurred at the "South Korea" article. It was truly an honest mistake. When I initially looked at the photograph; I mistook it for dog food because it looked very similar to it. I was engulfed with rage and quickly deleted it because I thought it was a case of anti-Korean vandalism. Upon reflecting your complaint, I have taken a closer look at the photograph and have noticed my mistake: it is not dog food, but kimchi.

I regret this case of cultural misunderstanding.

Sincerely,

Logitech95 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Logitech95 (talk • contribs) 09:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

AN/I

Thank you for the notification. --Amble (talk) 15:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: your responsibility

제가 문제에서 도망가는게 아니라, 이런 문제는 admin 이 하는 일이에요. 로지택같은 사람들하고 말할수없거든요.

lucyintheskywithdada 는 벌서 강티당했죠? 로지택도 이러다가 강퉈당할거에요. 이런 문제는 하루에 해결되는게 아니거든요. 그러니까 자꾸 제가 문제에서 도망가다는 비난 그만하세요. 이런 문제는 다른 방법으로 해결되요. 로지택하고 전쟁하면 안되요. Good friend100 (talk) 05:37, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

아니, 제가 언제붙어 님을 기분나쁘게 대했는데요? 그냥 3RR 조심하시라고 상기해주고, 로지택은 admin 에기 맡기라고 조언말해주는데, 제가 언제 님한테 기분 나뿐 소리하는데요? Good friend100 (talk) 05:47, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox

Hi. I actually agree with you I don't like to see too many transliterations either at the beginning, I think the infobox looks ugly with too much at the top. BUt many editors insist that we have all of the korean variations in the way that they insisted we had all the trobetan/chinese tranlsations. this is the only reason I added them to the Lhasa box. If I had my way I;d remove most of them. Me personally as an englishman I by pass this, it doesn't mean anything to me. I'd rather we had two or three korean transliterations maximum rather than 5 or 6. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ 12:11, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Copyrighted Images

You asked User:Stifle to give me a warning about the images I uploaded. I don't understand why you did such a foolish thing. I uploaded those images more than two years ago and I have not uploaded any images since then. If you want to give me a warning, go back to two years ago by time machine or something. And if you want to warn me, why didn't you do so yourself? Why did you ask Stifle? I don't get it at all.
P.S. Stifle aplogized to me for talking about such an old things.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 08:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

I still don't get why you're talking such an old thing. I don't remember what I said about the photos but I believe I talked enough about them back then and that's why I have not uploaded any images since then. I don't get why you dredge up something which was ended many years ago. I don't understand why you don't think that Stifle apologized to me either. I'm not excusing my wrongdoing by time but I reflected on myself and the matter ended two years ago. What do you think if you are scolded for what you did when you were a kid? It is as foolish to talk about something so old as to excusing your wrongdoing by time.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 15:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

당신은 몹시 무례합니다. 이야기를 하려는 태도마저 없습니다. 나는 2년전에 반성해, 그 이후 사진을 하나도 업 로드하고 있지 않음에도 불구하고, 나의 반성은 일절 들어주지 않고, 내가 반성을 하고 있지 않다고 우겨, 지난 것을 비난 할 뿐으로, 비겁이라고마저 말할 수 있습니다. 당신의 태도는, 역시 감정적이며, 받아 들이기 어려운 것입니다.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 11:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Please get over your past and move on. Don't spend your time falsely accusing me for "your past conduct".--11:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Badagani

I have opened an ANI discussion about this editor at WP:ANI#Wikistalking. Please feel free to look at this post and comment as you feel is necessary. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 00:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

IPA

No problem. I'll try to find a moment to do it tomorrow. I'm off to bed now, though. Slp1 (talk) 02:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

RfB Thank You spam

Thank you for participating in my RfB! I am very grateful for the confidence of the community shown at my RfB, which passed by a count of 154/7/2 (95.65%). I have read every word of the RfB and taken it all to heart. I truly appreciate everyone's input: supports, opposes, neutrals, and comments. Of course, I plan to conduct my cratship in service of the community. If you have any advice, questions, concerns, or need help, please let me know. Again, Thanks! — Rlevse • Talk • 08:48, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:KO navigation

I'll see what I can do. Not everything needs to be discussed first – sometimes you have to be bold! ;) Let me know if you think it needs anything else. Regards. PC78 (talk) 00:10, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

No worries - see what you think now. BTW, wasn't it you who said the navigation template needed improving some time ago? I have a feeling someone did, which is part of the reason I did it. Regards. PC78 (talk) 00:19, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Cheonhado

Thank you for your great contributions to the Cheonhado article! I left a note on Talk:Kangnido regarding a puzzling Korean map (輿地全圖, late 18th century): would you have any information about it? Cheers PHG (talk) 06:47, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Also, if you like the new hook, be sure to approve it, so it doesn't get erased by some overzealous person.--Bedford 08:14, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Reply

I sent the URLs you gave me. He has his email open so if you have more Special:EmailUser/Thatcher. But I think he may get annoyed with us flooding his email. Or he could make an exception for this. Rgoodermote  15:40, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

You do as you see is needed, but this should be handled very quickly. Because I whole heartedly believe that that threat is dead serious. Rgoodermote  15:48, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Drowning

Can you add the information you posted to my user page to the WP:AN/I discussion, please?– The Anome (talk) 16:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Sennen goroshi

I think it would be best all round if you two stayed away from each other. I've instructed him not to edit a page after you for 5 days, and I'm doing the same with you. Do not edit after him. If you really do feel he is stalking you then you need to disengage by not posting messages on his talk page or by editing any articles that he does. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 19:24, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I just want to point you towards this if you hadn't already checked for a response. ~ AmeIiorate _{U T C} @ 11:49, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. I appreciate your visiting here.--Caspian blue (talk) 03:00, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Messages from indefinitely blocked sock

Why you mess with my talk page?

Why you mess with my talk page? Who are you?– Priorend —Preceding unsigned comment added by Priorend (talk • contribs) 16:11, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

My references

You discuss with me please. I gave you good references.– Priorend —Preceding unsigned comment added by Priorend (talk • contribs) 04:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Liancourt Rocks

User:Historiographer#Dokdo

• 위와 같은 내용을 독도에 추가시켰으면 합니다. 이것들은 예전의 기사를 토대로 내용 축약, 수정, 추가를 한 것입니다. 문제는 예전 기사를 다루는 것은 다른 사용자들의 반발을 불러일으킬 수도 있어, 있으면 좋은 내용이긴 하지만 어떻게 해야할 지 모르겠어서 일단 님께 조언을 구하고자 합니다. 이것을 올려야 합니까? 말아야 합니까? 또 틀린 부분이 있으면 좀 고쳐주셨으면 합니다. 죄송하지만 부탁드릴께요. --Historiographer (talk) 13:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Rosa rugosa

Hi, do you know the Korean for this flower? I think the RR is Haedanghwa, but I'd like to be sure. Thanks! PC78 (talk) 18:15, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Need help again

Me again, hope you don't mind! :) I've been researching Lee Bo-young; I think this is her profile on the Miss Korea website, but need someone who can read it to double check. I figured out that 대전 is Daejeon, but I'm not sure about 충남 진. Thanks again for any help. PC78 (talk) 00:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. BTW, did you see the message I posted at WT:KOREA? I know you've said a lot about the settlement infobox, so you might want to have a look. Regards. PC78 (talk) 01:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

­

I didn't know you speak Korean... Are you a native English speaker or a native Korean speaker? You speak both language very fluently. Impressive. --­ (talk) 01:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Namsadang

I've replied on my talk page.– SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 02:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 9 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Sakuradamon Incident, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 11:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Seoul Public Libraries

Hi. You will remember my AfD nomination a month ago of a number of stub articles on Seoul public libraries. The result of that was "No consensus, other than these should be nominated separately. No prejudice against immediate renom, as long as they are not bundled together." Rather than relist immediately, I decided to wait a month and see whether signs of notability appeared, as I see they have in one or two cases. I have now listed one for AfD as a test case at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Dobong Public Library: you will see that I have explained the background and made a proposal for a joint article which I hope you will think is constructive. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:36, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Begging in English

English does not have a specific term to my knowledge to differentiate begging as performed by monks from other forms of begging. "Begging for alms" or "soliciting alms" is one common way to express it in English; I have also seen begging by monks described as "going on (an) alms round", though this phrase is probably only meaningful to English speakers already familiar with Buddhist practices. The English term "mendicant" does imply a beggar with some kind of religious connotation (previously applied to members of certain Catholic religious orders), and is sometimes used in English to describe a Buddhist monk- but it's a noun or adjective, rather than a verb. Hope that's helpful. --Clay Collier (talk) 04:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I assume that was a mistake

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Korea_under_Japanese_rule&action=history

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Theresa_knott#an_accident

I wish to show good faith in your edits, and I imagine that given the 1 minute time span between my edit and yours, that you did not have time to see my edit. I certainly will not be pushing for you to be blocked and perhaps as a sign of good and that you are willing to agree with the terms laid down, you might want to revert your edit.

Sennen goroshi (talk) 12:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Thank you for the notice. However, we can't leave any note to each other's talk page, so that your notifying here would cause you to be blocked. Theresa said that warning several times. Therefore, I assume your edit on here was a mistake. Well, as for the edit on Korea under Japanese rule, I certainly did not realize your edit while editing, so you caught it up and then went to Theresa. My editing is so minor linking a red link to some article.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

gimbap

You wrote that Onigiri was Gimbap. However, Gimbap explains "Gimbap is derived from the Japanese futomaki (lit. "large rolls") style maki-zushi sushi rolls". Is Gimbap Onigiri or is it Makizushi?　You must explain on the page of Gimbap and Onigiri. --Eichikiyama (talk) 17:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 15 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Korean temple cuisine, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Gatoclass (talk) 11:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks.--Caspian blue (talk) 11:24, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Amazing. Whenever I see "Korean" on the fron tpage I just "know" that it has been edited by you!! You are Mr. Korea!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦ 11:50, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the compliment. :)--Caspian blue (talk) 11:52, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Request for help

Hi! I hate to be a pain, but Filll and I have been trying to get an old Korean teuroteu up for Featured sound. We've done some of the work, but could really use a native speaker to look it over, and maybe provide a rough translation. It's Image:박향림 오빠는 풍각쟁이.ogg.

As an aside, it's kind of horrible how that became public domain - everyone involved with it died far too young. The singer was just 25 when she died, and the composer and lyricist died in their early forties. =/

Ah, well. Still, it's a great song, and I really want it to be featured. Can you help? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 12:03, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

That's fantastic work on the translation - please continue! =) I realise it won't translate perfectly, but... better something than nothing.

Also, I've double checked the PD-status, and it seems secure, so we're fine there. Thanks againf or all the help, and sorry if I'm a little disjointed - getting over a bad cold. =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:57, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

I've used your literal translation on the image page - and also did work on a loose translation that fits the music =) I've tried to keep to the spirit of it, but, well, that first verse just doesn't translate literally out of the culture. Also "letters" just wouldn't scan right, so I changed it to a related problem.

My brother is a street musician, and he is always such a meanie!

Tell me why, tell me why food disappears if I look away - tell me why!

He steals all of my treats - and not content with that, he gives me "healthier veggies" because he says I'm fat!

My brother is a grabber! My brother is so greedy! My brother really is a jerk!

 

My brother is a street musician, and he is always such a meanie!

I hate it! I hate it! I caught him reading my diary - then he teased!

He won't take me to plays: he always goes alone - and never thinks of doing chores when he's at home!

My brother makes excuses! My brother's always teasing! My brother really is a jerk!

 

It's like I'm living with a vagrant, he's shiftless and so very lazy.

Tell me why, tell me why, he comes in staggering every night - tell me why!

He goes to work hungover three out of five days, then he complains to me that he never gets a raise!

My brother is a drunkard! My brother's boss must hate him! My brother really is a jerk!

Lots of liberties, but I think it captures the spirit, at least. And we have your literal translation as well. And I think Filll told me he has a Japanese translation. =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 18:28, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Nepali honey hunting

If you have time have a watch of this. It is a documentary on a British guy going honey hunting in Nepal. it will amaze you, plus there is some good scenery. The Bald One 09:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but the site is only available to UK residents...--Caspian blue (talk) 04:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

RfC

I didn't think to notify you at the time, and you may or may not be interested in participating; but FYI, there is an RfC at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/JJL. Omnedon (talk) 13:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes I am melonbarmonster

Melonbarmonster2 (talk) 22:59, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Chinese raw fish

I'm not sure that raw fish eating of raw fish disappeared in the 11th century. Certainly the consumption of raw (land animal) meat became very rare after the Ming and Qing dynasty periods but the consumption of raw fish (膾 or 鱠, your pick) remains in many Chinese cultures though it is not as common or popular in contemporary times as compared to the Tang and Song dynasties where everyone from emperors to commoners ate it.

Something call yusheng (魚生), a mixture for slivered raw fish with shredded vegetables, is made and eaten by most Chinese during Chinese New Year worldwide, although this practices seems to be most common with the Southern Chinese. The Northern Chinese cultures of Nanai and the Manchurian also consume raw fish commonly.

Here are a few 梅堯臣 poems on 膾 or with it:

送畢郎中提點淮南茶場

汴中春絮亂，淮上鮆魚時。 順水疾奔馬，出都猶脫羈。 拜親將已近，食膾不言遲。 到日問茶事，遍山開幾旗。

答持國遺魦魚皮膾

海魚沙玉皮，翦膾金齏釅 。 遠持享佳賓，豈用飾寶劍 。 予貧食幾稀，君愛則已泛 。 終當飯葵藿，此味不為欠 。

蔡仲谋遗鲫鱼十六尾余忆在襄城时获此鱼留以迟欧阳永叔

昔尝得圆鲫，留待故人食。 今君远赠之，故人大河北。 欲脍无庖人，欲寄无鸟翼。 放之已不活，烹煮费薪棘。

颍上得鲤鱼为脍怀余姚谢师厚

青蓑潭上老， 赬尾网中鱼。 买作秋盘脍， 还思远客书。 越齑橙熟久， 楚饭稻舂初。 虽去故乡远， 不嫌为馔。

送裴如晦宰吴江

吴江田有粳，粳香舂作雪。 吴江下有鲈，鲈肥脍堪切。 炊粳调橙齑，饱食不为餮。 月从洞庭来，光映寒湖凸。 长桥坐虹背，衣湿霜未结。 四顾无纤云，鱼跳明镜裂。 谁能与子同，去若秋鹰掣。

Sjschen (talk) 14:36, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Eating raw things have always had some forms of negative connotation in Chinese culture since it was know that raw foods can cause illnesses. As well, eating raw things was something that the "uncultured barbarians" did and thus one does not one to "lower themselves to that level". Perhaps the rule for cooking food was enforced in the Chinese armies too?

On a completely different note, I personally think the (obsessive) need to cook everything before consumption (water included), freed the Chinese from food taboos present in so many cultures around the world. This is pure conjecture, but the "cook everything" attitude to me explains why East Asians for the most part have worse tolerance of alcohol then most Westerners. Namely, the water supply for Ancient Europe was kept sanitary by alcohol (beer and diluted wine) and those that had lower tolerance for alcohol likely faced some sort of selective pressure. This selective pressure for alcohol tolerance was likely not present to Chinese and East Asians since an alternate method for disinfecting water (boiling) was used. Sjschen (talk) 00:38, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

It's quite possible that the whole thing with boiling water, stove technology, and cultural elitism all contributed to great advancements in Chinese tea culture. Sjschen (talk) 01:02, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Beijing montage

Let's talk it to the talk page. --Joowwww (talk) 12:45, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

British Raj

Do you ever ask before reverting another user's edits? If you had asked, I would have told you that I am trying to clean up/organize Category:Former countries in Asia the template:Infobox Former Country doesn't just hold the continent. It also automatically puts the article into Former countries of (blank). This caused Former countries in Asia to contain over 200 countries. I am organizing it along regional lines (e.g. South Asia, East Asia, Central Asia). Or I was until you reverted me. I can't leave the continent blank or the template faults. I was planning on getting the template modified later, after all the reorganization.Adimovk5 (talk) 22:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Burger King products

No, there isn't a international products article, I went a different way and included the regional variations in the individual product articles. Would you be willing to help me with translating the Korean menu? Last time I asked, I got the cold shoulder at the Korean cuisine article.

Once the Commons image copyright is confirmed, we can easily add that to the desserts section.

--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 15:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Korean stuff

Could create a category for Category:Korean terminology if it doesn't exist already. HGey did you manage to expand any of those Seoul markets after? The Bald One 12:26, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Wow a string of AFDs on important articles! How original and unique! Never heard of that before. Have these people never heard of prodding articles or kindly asking the creator if he could try to expand his short creation? Their criteria for notability is whether it is a few paragraphs rather than doing what they should do, researching it before making a stupid assumption. I find it highly amusing that these people are debating the encyclopedic status of real world traditional encyclopedia articles when we have all those pointless lists of fictional characters and dates in geek series. Some people even jump the AFD queue like Mr BetaCommand and speedy delete them as what happened with that Bulgarian Law Center article. Next time you face an AFD please just provide me a link. The Bald One 16:45, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Beta is an admin?? OH MY. In many ways he is as bad as some of the IP vandals we have on here. How many complaints does it take for somebody to say enough is enough?? Don't know about Dekka. I hope he returns because he knows there are many editors who feel the same way The Bald One 11:22, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Well thats something. It wouldn't be a good look for an admin to keep getting blocked as he does. Hope you are well! The Bald One 11:47, 28 August 2008 (UTC) Strangely I've turned into a deletionist today with an AFD of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Finam The Bald One 09:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

The Anti-Flame Barnstar

		The Anti-Flame Barnstar
		For keeping out trolls in Korea-related articles, especially the ones surrounding controversial topics. мirаgeinred سَراب ٭ (talk) 02:51, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I really appreciate the award. Misplaced Pages should be a serious place for readers. :) --Caspian blue (talk) 11:13, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Your revert

Why do you erase a message you do not like? I must say that it is very rude of you. It may be OK that you erase a message which contains offensive words or does not mean anything. But this time, I was only explaining the reason why I edited the article Korea because you reverted my edit. It is very reasonable act which wikipedians always do, isn't it? Please do not erace message without leaving any response or talk to me on Edit summary. Would you PLEASE be so kind as to leave at lease one single message on your note if you are talked to on you note? I left a comment on Talk:Korea, as you told me to. You called my edit unsourced, but I have showed the source (the photo) from the very biggining.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 17:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Test

Noticed your section on at the VP, so here's a test for you! --Alinnisawest, (extermination requests here) 18:33, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

blue.....

omg i went to ur userpage and dat blue killz! too blue for my rational mentality thinking! Btzkillerv (talk) 21:01, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Gojoseon

The establishment if Gojoseon by Dangun is a legend, isn't it? Or people in Korea really believes Korea has longer history than China?--Michael Friedrich (talk) 04:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Hi! Thank you for pointing out my misunderstanding of the definition of vandalism. I'm embarrassed. I corrected my edit. Hope it works well. Again thank you. Best regards. Oda Mari (talk) 06:10, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. Oda Mari (talk) 06:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry again. Oops. Careless of me. I saw the delete of User talk:Manacpowers and the IP on there. I jumped to the conclusion. Thank you for pointing out again. Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 17:49, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films roll call and coordinator elections

It's that time of year again – we're wiping everyone's name off of the active members list and doing a project roll call. Your username is listed on the WikiProject Films participants list, but we are unsure as to which editors are still active on the project. If you still consider yourself an active WP:FILM editor, please add your name back to the Active Members list. You can also add your name to any of our many task forces!

Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 08:04, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Korea#Japan-Korea_Annexation_Treaty

I believe you will want to comment on this thread. Taemyr (talk) 12:39, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films August 2008 Newsletter

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Ito Hirobumi

I have made the following edit to the Ito Hirobumi article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=It%C5%8D_Hirobumi&diff=prev&oldid=235820634

I think that the grammar was not quite perfect on the article, and also that the word "considered" should be used, to make it clear that it was an opinion. Sennen goroshi (talk) 14:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I was confused by the use of the word "was" - which is correct when talking about Japan, but incorrect when talking about Japanese people (were should be used) - anyway, I have edited the article again to make sure people know it was talking about Japanese people, not Japan. Sennen goroshi (talk) 15:26, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: Welcome Back!!!

Hi, Caspian. Thanks for the note and the thoughts... I keep looking back in here hoping to find a way to come back, but I just see more and more I dislike... Not only the deletion, but the tolerance of so much disruption from some editors, as long as they lean towards deletion... I'm doing my hobby writing/researching and contributing at a specialty Wiki now where they don't employ such inconsistent and biased policies as "notability", etc. It's amazing how much better I feel contributing there-- Contributing here I always felt like I was somehow "beating the system" when I got an article or an image through and it remained. The "system" here, it always seemed, is geared towards the removal of anything that the average 20-year-old English-speaker doesn't already know about... Which is a shame, because Misplaced Pages could be so much more than that... I do miss contributing at the Korean film project-- I recently got a DVD of Obaltan-- what a great film! And what a fascinating look at South Korea in the early '60s... OK-- take care. Dekkappai (talk) 17:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, Caspian. Oh dear, I see there's another controversy... :-( Here is the exact text of the "Puk" article from Grove:

"Puk.

Korean generic term for ‘drum’, but usually used more specifically to refer to an undecorated shallow double-headed barrel drum used in folk music. It has two tacked cowskin heads, roughly 35 to 40 cm in diameter, and a body about 20 to 25 cm deep. Essentially the same instrument, decorated with coloured dragon motifs and referred to as yonggo (‘dragon drum’), is also used in court music. The history of this drum is not well documented, but it resembles two instruments (taego: ‘large drum’; and sogo: ‘small drum’) described in the treatise Akhak kwebǒm (1493).

The decorated yonggo is now used in military processional music (taech’wit’a): it is suspended, one skin upwards, by a shoulder sash attached to two metal rings on the drum body; the standing player strikes it with two large padded mallets. The undecorated puk now appears mainly in two roles: as the only accompaniment for professionalized folk narrative singing (p’ansori) and in the highly popular four-instrument percussion band called samullori. In the case of p’ansori, the player sits and the drum is placed on the floor in front of him; he strikes the left head with his open left palm, and both the right head and the wooden body with a slender, cylindrical wooden mallet held in the right hand. For samullori, the puk may be placed on the floor or inclined while supported by the player or suspended from a sash while dancing; the primary drum stroke in this loud genre is hitting a single drum head with the cylindrical wooden mallet in the right hand.

• Bibliography
  • Sǒng Hyǒn, ed.: Akhak kwebǒn (Seoul, 1493/R 1975), 8.9b
  • Chang Sahun: Han’guk akki taegwan (Seoul, 1969), 135
  • Kwak Chun: P’ansori wa changdan (Seoul, 1992)

Robert C. Provine"

Hope it helps... Dekkappai (talk) 19:54, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

SD Nomination

Sorry, I didn't mean to nominate it. Thanks for bringing to my attention - I've removed the tag. RaseaC (talk) 00:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Buk

Thank you for considering me. I've responded at the article talk page. (In the interest of full disclosure, I can read Korean only at a basic level). --Amble (talk) 04:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

RFC at Liancourt Rocks

I have begun a Request for comments at Talk:Liancourt Rocks, and I have created a spot for you to enter a statement presenting your position on the dispute. Please come and participate in this discussion. Thanks! ···日本穣 18:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Club for Editing of Korean History

I found that Korean Histoy Compilation Committee is commonly used in Korean studies in English. In order to avoid any POV, I think this is the best name because it is already used by several historians including native speakers of English. Would you please read Talk:Club for Editing of Korean History#Michael Friedrich's moves and leave a comment, if you please? We cannot solve this dispute if only Manacpowers and me are there. Thank you.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 02:53, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for leaving a comment. Can I please ask you another favour? What do you think of Talk:Korean History Compilation Committee#Removing POV? Manacpowers keeps adding information about Gwanggaeto Stele but I don't think it is good because the stele has nothing to do with the Committee. Although you seem to be Korean or pro-Korean, I think you can leave a comment not from Korean's POV but from NPOV. Thank you.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 04:28, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Buk

I haven't heard from Badagnani, so I suppose he was not interested or is no longer involved in editing the article. If I may, I'd like to discuss it with you a bit anyway. Do you agree with the following? For each one, feel free to give a simple yes/no or a short answer.

1. A loan-word such as buk can have different ranges of meaning in English and Korean.
2. In Korean, 북 can mean "drum" in general.
3. In Korean, 북 can mean any drum used in Korean traditional music.
4. In Korean, 북 can mean a specific type of Korean barrel drum, as here: ko:사물놀이.
5. In English, buk does not refer to drums in general.
6. In English, buk may or may not refer to all drums in Korean traditional music, to be determined by usage in reliable sources.
7. In English, buk may or may not refer to a specific type of Korean barrel drum, to be determined by usage in reliable sources.

Thanks. --Amble (talk) 15:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for commenting, Caspian and Badagnani. I did go through the talk page history when Caspian Blue first contacted me. Badagnani, I would like your response to the same seven points I presented to Caspian Blue. Caspian, would you please clarify whether you would agree with points 1, 5, 6, and 7 in principle given enough sourcing of these usages in English? Thanks. --Amble (talk) 00:43, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 10 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Beoseon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Mspraveen (talk) 10:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Gejang

On 10 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gejang, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 16:21, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

re: I need your help on Romanization

Hi, I don't know what you discussed with badagnani, but Romanization is based on real-life pronunciation, not phonemes morphemes. 독립문 is Romanized as Dongnimmun (동님문), based on pronunciation.

So according to the above, 닭 should be romanized as dak. --Kjoonlee 01:38, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I tweaked my description, because RR is more phonemic than phonetic. --Kjoonlee 01:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

IMHO, yes. --Kjoonlee 01:43, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Buk

This is the reverse of many discussions over article naming, where everyone agrees what the topic should be, and there is contention over the best name. In this case, there is no dispute over the use of the title Buk, and the question is what should be covered in the article. Personally, I find that there's a strong need for an article about Korean traditional drums in general, including an overview of the many different types, and also a need for articles about specific instruments. There's no requirement at all that each of these articles correspond well to a specific word in Korean, and in fact, naming issues are far, far less important than content. Therefore, I suggest changing the approach towards this article. Let's break it into two articles, one about about Korean drums in general, and one specifically about traditional Korean barrel drums. Let the article titles be provisional, because we can easily adjust them later. I believe this is the clear and correct solution to the important issue of article content. Then, we will be left with the lesser question of naming, which should be decided with primary consideration for what's meaningful and convenient for English-speaking readers. Therefore, I will split the current Buk (drum) into Korean drum and Korean barrel drum. I will not touch Buk (drum) but would not be opposed to temporarily making it a disambiguation page. Discussions of the titles of the two articles would be fine at any time. It's perfectly fine if neither or both of them wind up with the title Buk after discussion; it's perfectly easy to disambiguate article titles. --Amble (talk) 03:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

(Hi Caspian Blue - I'm posting here a copy of my response to Badagnani's comment, since it clarifies my intentions. Hope you don't mind.) Your point that there are various types of Korean barrel drums is well taken. I do not claim that Korean barrel drum is the best article title; in fact, my main point is that we should first identify a clear set of topic, secondly develop articles on these topics, and worry far less about article titles. I believe we are in agreement that there should be both a general article on Korean drums, and a specific article on this particular type of barrel drum. I also hope that Caspian Blue will agree with this. Therefore, I apologize for avoiding the naming issues, but I believe it will be more productive to first stabilize the several articles with clear scope and contents, and to put off naming until later. Thanks again for your consideration. --Amble (talk) 04:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Andong jjimdak

On 11 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Andong jjimdak, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 07:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

On 11 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dak galbi, which you recently nominated. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Bon appetit - all the food ones are a great change! Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:46, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Source

Does this source being ritten, "Japan had to pay tributes to China from ancient time"? And, is there an authority in the Web site in South Korea?　If you quote the canonical source of knowledge, I support your edit. --Eichikiyama (talk) 17:42, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. However, I cannot consent to the reason why you are quoting a Korean language source. The history book on China where the authority exists does a record different from your source (Korean Web site). --Eichikiyama (talk) 17:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Masayoshi Son

"Zainichi Korean" is displayed when I click "Korean-Japanese".　If you release this redirecting, I will stop discussing. Do you insist that Son is ethnic Korean residents of Japan?　--Eichikiyama (talk) 18:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, Please integrate Japanese people of Korean descent and Zainichi Korean. Your insistence is very vague. If the two meanings are integrated by you, I support your insistence. --Eichikiyama (talk) 18:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Buk

Hi Caspian Blue, what do you think of the newly created articles Korean drum and Korean barrel drum? These are not intended to (necessarily) be the permanent titles, but to give a chance for articles to develop on Korean drums in general, and the specific type of barrel drum. I invite you to improve either or both of these articles. The main thing is to cover both topic. We can have a naming discussion for each article at any time (now or later, I don't mind). In principle, either or both of them could use the title Buk; we would just have to disambiguate properly, in that case. Thanks for your consideration. --Amble (talk) 20:04, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Caspian, that's totally reasonable. Thanks for getting back to me. --Amble (talk) 21:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Memiljeon

On 12 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Memiljeon, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 20:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

More BS

Thank you for pointing it out - I'm well aware of it. Those are my initials, and I wear them proudly. Haven't changed them in a lifetime. And I won't. ;) --BsBsBs (talk) 22:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Congrats

According to this statistics, your DYK entry for Gejang got 8,900 hits on the day it was featured, which is a pretty high record for any food-related DYK. Congrats. --BorgQueen (talk) 03:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

i saw that you want to block me

it was a rash action, i admit, after i checked some stuff about my national flag i saw rasists and i was mad at them, so i became mad and i attacked them for being rasist Btzkillerv (talk) 20:27, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

addition to statement

only 2 of the evidence was actually my fault, the IP ones and the one by restoretheempiresociety had no connection to me Btzkillerv (talk) 20:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Mochi's insulting language

Though I believe what the article says is true, "steal" is not a proper word there. It is true that Mochi was being rude, but I don't want you to think that all Japanese people are rude. By the way, I have never heard of Japanese attempting to register "kimuchi" to some dictionaries. Could you show me an example? I think all Japanese people know that kimchi is from Korea. If there are some who don't, it means only that they are ignorant, not that all Japanese consider kimchi as Japanese. I would also like to know examples of "packaging Korean food as Japanese food via Japanese restaurant chains," if possible.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 13:37, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Although I think kimchi has nothing to do with the article, I would like to say that there is a slight misunderstanding.

Japanese distinguished Japanese "kimuchi" from Korean "kimchi" because of the difference of their making process, just like Japanese Ramen and Chinese Lamian. China didn't think Ramen is Japanese invasion of Chinese culture, but Korean regarded kimuchi as Japanese invasion of its culture because Kimchi was not only food but a part of Korean pride. It was Japanese fault that they never thought kimchi meant so much to Koreans. It may be true that Japan hurt Korean pride. But it is not like what you said. Although Japan regarded Japanese "kimuchi" different from that of Korea and called it "kimuchi" instead of "kimchi," Korea could not tolerate Japanese low quality "kimuchi" (from Korean viewpoint) were floating around in the world market. Since Koreans also think Japanese "kimuchi" is different from Korean "kimchi" and that "kimuchi" is not genuin "kimchi," it would be worse if Japan sold "kimuchi" as "kimchi." How would you feel if Japanese "law quality" kimuchi were introduced to the world as a "Korean food"? It would be worse, wouldn't it?

Conclusion. Japanese distinguished "kimuchi" from "kimchi" and they never claimed that "kimchi" is a Japanese food. What Japan called "kimuchi" is only Japanese version of kimchi, not Korean "genuin" kimchi. It may be true that it seemed to be insult on Korean culture to Koreans' eyes. The reason why Japan objected when Korea brought this issue to the Codex Alimentarius, which is a part of the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization is that they regarded Japanese version of kimchi, "kimuchi," different from Korean kimchi and wanted to keep selling the Japanese version, not because they wanted to have a monopoly of kimchi. No Japanese have ever claimed that kimchi is of Japanese origin. So, I think it is different from claims that samurai, judo, kabuki are of Korean origin.

As for the website you showed me, it is unbelievable that Japanese people talk as if Korean food such as Bibimbap is Japanese. All Japanese people know that they are Korean food. I read the article carefully and it does not say that the restaurant is run by Japanese. It says "손님이 들어서면 백인, 흑인, 인도네시아인, 태국인, 티베트인 등 다양한 인종으로 구성된 모든 종업원들이 "이랏샤이마세!"(어서 오십시오!)를 외친다." "일본식 표기 탓에 '규카쿠' 종업원조차 한식을 '일식'으로 알고 있었다. 종업원 소남씨에게 갈비·비빔밥을 가리키며 "이게 어느 나라 음식이냐"고 묻자 "일식입니다"라고 대답했다." There's no word "일본인" there. Maybe the restaurant mentioned in the article is run by a foreigner who misunderstand that Bibimbap is Japanese.

The article says "세계적 요리사인 일본인 노부 마쓰히사는 자신이 운영하는 뉴욕의 퓨전 일식 레스토랑 '노부'에서 한국 갈비를 내놓는다." But it does not say 마쓰히사 states that 한국 갈비 is Japanese. I don't know the detail of the restaurant but it is hard to think that he introduces 갈비를as Japanese food. I believe he at least states that the food is of Korean origin even if he introduces 갈비 in his Japanese restaurant.

I don't want you to misundestant what Japan is like. I don't want you to misunderstand me either. I am no racist and I have never mocked any countries. I like Korean food and never thought that they were of Japanese origin. I am a big fan of Dae Jang Geum. I have been studying Korean because I want to know more about Korea and think that Korea and Japan should be friends. I believe Koreans and Japanese can be friends (as long as they don't talk about history, politics and baseball...)--Michael Friedrich (talk) 17:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry for upsetting you. I deleted what you pointed out. Now please read the whole message. Thank you.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 17:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

My RfA

Thank you for your participation at my RfA, which passed with a count of (166/43/7). I appreciate your comments and in my actions as an administrator I will endeavor to act in ways that earn your full confidence, even though I don't have it now. Cirt (talk) 01:29, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Extremely Sinophobic and Biased Editor

check the biased contribs of wehrmachtvnn, this person has edited articles so that they are one sided-proi vietnam, on one such article, he made strong anti-Chinese claims and have infuriated people inculding me Btzkillerv (talk) 14:03, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

South Korean cultural claims

If the deletion doesn't get through, I think it's better to split this article and perhaps integrate them into articles on anti-Korean sentiments in Japan and anti-Korean sentiments in China. I believe this is necessary because the claims made on China are different because they are mostly false where bias of the Chinese media is more relevant than purpoted cultural claims. Any thoughts on this? Cydevil38 (talk) 00:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Films coordinator elections - voting now open!

The September 2008 WikiProject Films coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting seven coordinators to serve for the next six months from a pool of candidates. Additionally, we are keeping nominations open during the voting period, in case any additional editors wish to nominate themselves. Please vote here by September 28!

Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 01:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

advice

do not use the word "liar" or its equivalents in any context. It never helps. My job as an admin is not to judge between you. My job is to get you both to stop. I've given just the same advice to Propastop, just as I always do. DGG (talk) 02:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Removing folktale

I have answered your question on the talk page of the shoujou article. As nice as the folktale is, it runs for several pages and we cannot quote it all. Misplaced Pages must be written in a telegraphic, encyclopedic style not suitable for quoting long amounts of work from other places. So I have removed it and replaced the new material that you removed without explanation (as I did explain on the talk page why I removed the folktale). Please do not remove material without discussing why. I have nothing against the folktale, but it does not belong in the article. I hope that is clearer. Timothy Perper (talk) 15:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry -- I spoke too quickly. No, you did not remove anything. That was a mistake on my part. But the folktale itself is too long and complicated. I agree that a brief summary would be a very good idea. Please see the shoujou talk page for more on this. Timothy Perper (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

3RR

I am not against 3rr. This is not a revert. This is not a revert either.

"altering your statement"?? Which edit are you referring to?

I said the anon's edit is vandalism not because his English is bad, but because he kept making bad edits (adding a sentence like "These baseless rumors made by Chinese", removing sourced information "Ming Xia (鳴霞), a Chinese journalist, states that the reason why Koreans makes such absurd claims is that China and Korea have a dispute on Baekdu Mountain." , adding false information "Many rumours are "Hoax article", and its made by Japanese and Chinese internet user for defame Korea."' (This website does not say anything about Japanese), changing Kendo into Kumdo, Chinese characters into Hanja, adding strange sentence "Some Japanese believe that Korean claim samurai is originated from Korea" although there is information on ssaurabi and samurang, adding unsourced information "But these claims are only popular in Japanese Internet")--Michael Friedrich (talk) 16:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

OK. Calling him vandal was not good. I admit. Sorry about that.

And as for the "altering," do you mean this edit? I originally meant to put my comment right after my last comment. But you posted your comment while I was writing and I added my comment after your comment by mistake. And you left a comment again while I was trying to move my comment where I had meant to put it. Then I moved both my comment and your comment where I had originally meant to put my comment.

I'm sorry if I upset you because of that. No offence, really.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 16:28, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Original research

Hi! Saw your message. As far as I checked, I couldn't find any source that proves Ponyo's mother is shōjō. According to the official site, she is only described as 'Mother Sea'. I think it's something like 'Mother Earth'. That she has red hair does not mean she is shōjō. That is the reason why I thought the edit was an original research. The provided sources don't mention that she is shōjō. And according to the another page of the official site, Ponyo's father was a human being, but he quited being a human and became a sea dweller. That is another reason I thought the edit was an original research. Considering the explanation on the official pages, the parents are not the monster. Am I missing something? I'd like to see the source, if they are the monster. BTW, can you answer Question about dish that is probably Korean? Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 17:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. I'll take a good look at the talk page later and check the matter more. But I've got to go now. Why don't you reply at the ref.desk about the dish? Happy editing! Oda Mari (talk) 17:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK

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--Jordan 17:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Re: You're not retired, but just resting

I'm looking for a way to come back, Caspian, and have been since I first put up the sign... Yes, I've been lurking around, and, to tell the truth, the more I see the worse I feel... Did you see Blofeld's recent experience with the Opera project? It didn't surprise me at all... Anyway, I've just come across those two projects that look like a ray of hope... I'll continue lurking around. Maybe I'll learn to accept that the crazies, the anti-encyclopedists are always going to be here, and find a way to work constructively around them. Until then, take care! Dekkappai (talk) 17:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

It was some minor categorizing thing that Blofeld did as a favor, and led to a huge outburst from some of the "owners" of the project. Blofeld wound up calling them a "bunch of old farts". He's a good one, that Blofeld. :-) Dekkappai (talk) 18:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Shōjō

I notice you've fixed a credit for the shōjō hook. However, I decided to save it for later since we still have a lot of hooks in 15th Sep section. I just thought to drop you a note to let you know. --BorgQueen (talk) 04:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK!

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Thank you for your contributions! - Mailer Diablo 07:29, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Shōjō

On 21 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Shōjō, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 13:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

3rr

Me? 3rr? Look at this. I am not violating 3rr at all. This edit only removed . Novidmarana added sic without reason. If you say I am violating 3rr, would you please remove yourself? There's no reason for to exist there. Novidmarana does not know what means. cannot be applied there.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 16:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

No. I meant that I would not violate 3rr even if I reverted the article one more time.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 16:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

3 times? Which ones did you count?--Michael Friedrich (talk) 16:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Why do you call this edit and this edit revert? I don't think so.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 16:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Please do not call this edit a revert. I only removed the parts which brought about the edit war.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 17:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand why my last edit can be a revert although I only removed the parts which brought about the edit war, I self-reverted my edit. This makes the matter OK, doesn't it?--Michael Friedrich (talk) 17:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Ayam (cap)

On 22 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ayam (cap), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 10:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Socks

Could you gather up a list of disruptive, single purpose accounts, especially those that may be bothering you, and create a request for checkuser, along with the account that you think might be the sockmaster? If you leave me a note, I will try to help make sure your request has sufficient evidence to get accepted. Jehochman 17:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Jokduri

On 23 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jokduri, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 08:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit war

Hey, I tried to avoid edit war this time as soon as the edit war occured. I started discussion on the talk page. And I am not using a sock IP. 210.147.132.135 is not me.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

This edit is not a revert. I only add "dubious" and left a comment why I added dubious.

This revert was because Kao no nai tsuki reverted the page although the discussion was still going on. After he reverted my edit again, I did not reverted his edit. I was trying to avoid continuing the edit war.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Matters relating to User:Michael Friedrich and 2channel

• Note: It is a copy of my replies to and discussion with Michael Friedrich (talk · contribs) from User talk:Michael Friedrich since he blanked them without archiving.--Caspian blue (talk) 14:59, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Re:

I did not say or think that you used the sock IP designated to mesh.ad.jp. Even if you used the sock, technically, you did not violate 3RR and I pointed out on the other's violation. I just left notes to the cased from my point of view. Regards.--Caspian blue (talk) 18:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... you don't need to explain it to me. I already said he/her violated 3RR. I just left a simple note from my observation and admins would judge the cases. Regards.--Caspian blue (talk) 18:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Truth

OK. I'll tell you the truth. It is true that my IP is "59.141.42.53." And User:Robert Houdini used the same ID. But actually, Robert is not me. It is my bro, who was using the same computer because there was only one in our house. But he has not been here since last summer. He graduated from university and went to the States. You can see that he has not logged in since last summer. He edited his own page on the 31st of August this year. It was because he was back because it was a summer holyday. That's all.

If Robert were my sock puppet, I would have used him here and when the edit wars occured. But Robert did not appear, did he? That is the evidence that Robert is not me although we used the same IP. I have no intention to use sock puppets. Robert is not my sock.

As for NAZONAZO, it is not me, I promise. I know you can tell that because it seems that you can see others' IPs. You said something about the poll held at Talk:Sea of Japan, but I did not even know there was a poll. I edited wiki only twice in February. If I were his/her sock, why would I have had to refrain from voting then? And as for the article of Prince Shotoku, I think s/he saw the same website because the site comes at the top when you google "図画見聞誌" or "今則臣属高麗也". If I were him, why would I have posted such a proposal as this one?

As for my introduction, I lived in Australia at the age of 10 to 15. I regard myself as Japanese Australian although my nationality is not Australian. I live in Japan now. That's why I said I had lived in Japan for more than 20 years. I often visited Japan even when I lived in Australia.

I have no intention to use sock puppets. It is true that Robert used the same ID as I did but he is not me and he is away now. NAZONAZO definitely has nothing to do with me.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 18:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Note. Here is my answer to Michael Friedrich's talk page and his following more reply.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Truth, however your explanation does not make sense

I think I've given you many times to redeem your behaviors unlike other Japanese editors associated with 2channel. If you and Propastop would not make such endless edit wars, or would not canvass again to 2channel, I would not file the tiresome RFCU at this time. Anyway, you introduced yourself that you moved to Australia at the age of 10 and was born in 1984. However, you said at Totoro, you've lived more than 20 years, not less or about 20 years. Moreover your explanation on my talk page sounds implausible because living 5 years in the foreign country does not make you a "Japanese-Australian" since you've well known that Zainichi are not Korea-Japanese but just permanent foreign residents living in Japan. You have edited the related articles, so it sounds very unconvincing.

According to Robert Houdini (talk · contribs)'s claim, you're supposed to be a half Japanese-Korean, so you're a Korean-Japanese-Australian? However you uploaded copyrighted and bashing images against Korea several times. That does not even add up. Besides, your Korean ability is not as much good as Koreans or Koreans outside Korea. However, I also found something similar tone in Houdini's Korean with yours.

A lot of my friends who moved to English speaking world in the similar age as you generally speak English fluently. Well, your English is not much different from mine. Besides, even if Robert Houdini were your brother, you did collude with him for Uriginal and its AFD. Why did he mention about Korean and Japanese soy sauce if he just temporarily edit Misplaced Pages? The matter is also pertinent to South Korean cultural claims. The brother theory has been a favorite excuse used by sockpuppeters for years according to Checkusers. --Caspian blue (talk)

>>Moreover your explanation on my talk page sounds implausible because living 5 years in the foreign country does not make you a "Japanese-Australian"

I am no Japanese Australian according to law, of course. But I stated that I was Japanese-Australian because I really love that country. I stated I was Japanese Australian only in my own page. Is it against the rules? I only played pranks because I regard myself as Japanese with Australian mind.

>> your Korean ability is not as much good as Koreans or Koreans outside Korea.

It is because I never learned Korean as a native language. It is not like my father or mother is Korean. My grandfather was Korean but I never met him because he was dead when I was born. I am interested in Korea but I regard myself as Japanese with Australian mind.

>> A lot of my friends who moved to English speaking world in the similar age as you generally speak English fluently. Well, your English is not much different from mine.

Sorry. But it's been about 8 years since I came back to Japan. And this is irrelevant now.

>> Why did he mention about Korean and Japanese soy sauce if he just temporarily edit Misplaced Pages?

Sorry, but I do not understand which edit you are referring to. I mentioned Japanese soy sauce but did Robert?

>> The matter is also pertinent to South Korean cultural claims.

?? I edited South Korean cultural claims but Robert didn't, did he?--Michael Friedrich (talk) 04:37, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Do such things again: WP:RS, WP:CONSENSUS

Except you and me, nobody has said to agree with the merger, so you have to wait to get a consensus on the articles. Besides, when you edit very sensitive articles, you have to stick to the policy of reliable sources.--Caspian blue (talk) 17:00, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I have little interest in martial arts in general, so I don't know the subject as much as you or others know . I'm just worrying about edit waring given the history of the article in the past. If you want to get a broad opinion, you might try to post your merger proposal to WT:Korea. The mention of reliable source is for Lai Daihan because you used a blog source. --Caspian blue (talk) 17:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, do not make unnecessary war by unilaterally editing the articles. People do not keep up with your pace. I retract my opinion from "support" to neutral because I don't like the evident forthcoming from your intended edits. --Caspian blue (talk) 12:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, that is your business, not mine or others since you're the one to wish to merge the articles. Be patient and why don't you post your concern to the talk of WP:KOREA?--Caspian blue (talk) 12:34, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

You could have tired posting it on WP:WPMA or WP:KOREA to get more input. --Nate1481 13:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

As for not being involved in the discussion I missed the talk page posts, I watch lot of articles and don't read every post to a talk page, that is why for big changes talking it to a wider forum such as a project is a good idea. --Nate1481 13:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Your WP:CANVASSING to 2channel

As I said, I really gave more chances you to reconsider your behaviors unlike other disruptive Japanese editors. You have a history of canvassing to assure your position whenever you feel to need to. You asked the people to help you on Kumdo to 2channel, but just notified your finished merger to the Korean project talk page for your intention. That is not a fair game.--Caspian blue (talk) 13:15, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

To ask for supportive external but NO internal opinions that seems a little biased. --Nate1481 13:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Michael, do not lie any more. Here are your "own" message to 2channel. I was very reluctant to request for checkuser again because I'm very tired of dealing with your 2channel people. Even an admin asked me to file such Japanese sock/meat puppets. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

• Here is your self-assurance for 2channel people.

You talk as if I were the leader of 2ch but it is wrong. It may be true that I did not know the rule that you must not ask for others' help outside of wikipedia. But I never asked them to vote. All I did was inform them that how unreliable those pages were because of some editors like Manacpowers.

By the way, you accused me of using false information about myself but you did pretend not to understand Japanese too.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 02:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK 25 medal

Anyone can give that out, it doesn't have to be an admin. So feel free to do the honors yourself if you want to. Cheers, Cirt (talk) 02:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Well in any event I may not be able to get to it right away so I'd suggest you leave a note in a new subsection at Misplaced Pages talk:List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs. Cirt (talk) 02:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I've left a comment for you that you should probably see here. – RyRy (talk) 03:26, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Kumdo

I wanted for about a month. Objectiveye did not opposed either (see ). He said he was not sure but it's been more than 2 weeks since then. He knew about the merger proposal and had enough time if he meant to oppose the proposal. No one else even came to the discussion. I though I waited long enough. I though we reached a consensus already because there was no disagreement for more than a month. What do you say I have to do before mergin the articles? And I think I stick to the policy of reliable sources in that article. Did I do anything against the rule there?--Michael Friedrich (talk) 17:47, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

>>I'm just worrying about edit waring given the history of the article in the past.

No one ever objected the merger proposal. I think there will be no problem. I waited more than a month. I'm gonna edit it. If you do not have any objective ideas, I would like you not to revert it. If an edit war occur (I don't think it won't, though), I'll try to look for another way.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 12:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there will be any war. Your reverting my edit might occur one, though.

>>People do not keep up with your pace

I waited more than a month.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 12:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I didn't say anything about kumdo in 2ch. Please do not accuse me falsely. And if it were a vote, canvassing would work. But there was no vote. Anyone has their chance to express their opinion. The reason for your reverting does not make sense.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 13:17, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I DIDN'T say anything about Kumdo in 2ch as I said. You said I had canvassed on the 23rd of August, but I proposed a merger on the 31st. And it is on the 27th that I started editing Kumdo. Your claim is very contradictory. I DIDN'T say anything about kumdo in 2ch.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 13:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

ANI discussion on Benlisquare

Hello, Caspian blue. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Novidmarana (talk) 22:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice.--Caspian blue (talk) 12:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

2channel

Thanks for your tag on Yasuhito Chichibu. I could not help notice that we are still both on the list : you at #5 (and 7) and me only #116, but 8 ranks before Chichibu.... --Flying tiger (talk) 19:30, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Your advice

Thank you.--Bukubku (talk) 01:17, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Jobawi

On 29 September, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jobawi, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Po

If you are going to turn that into a disambiguation can you finish it off. Take a look at Po (disambiguation) for a full list. You'll also need to take car of this. I think almost all of those reference the Po River. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 22:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I just thought, if you make Po a disambiguation then Po (disambiguation) should redirect to it. Also some of the articles already listed in the disambiguation may require their otheruses template be tweaked. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 22:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the "what links here" are tedious. I've done that before. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 22:48, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

ANI

Hi Caspian blue. FYI, your name is mentioned in Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#incident_at_Hibari_Misora. Best! -- Suntag ☼ 23:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Nambawi

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Daniel Case (talk) 02:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Excellent articles - keep up the great work!

Hello! I was just doing New Page Patrol and I came across your new articles relating to traditional Korean clothing. I just wanted to commend you for your excellent work -- I greatly enjoyed reading your contributions. Also, kudos on your DYK honour for today. Keep up the great work! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:46, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Baekje

"Most likely the origin of Japan as a state lies in Korea. "Peakche of Korea and the origin of Yamato Japan" is the standard most historians follow." This is not true. It is true that there are some historians who claim such a thing, but it is not true that "most historians follow" that claim. I removed these sentences because of that. This is an original research. Misplaced Pages should not write something so doubtful or it has to mention every existing theory.

I find no reason to hide the information on Chinese and Japanese study on Gwanggaeto Stele. Although there are scholars who controvert the Conspiracy theories, stating only the information on Korean study on the stele is not fair.

Tell me the reason why you had to revert my edit.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 10:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

>>What is the award? It may be your contentment for providing accurate information in clear English.

What do you mean? It sounds you are making a fool of me falsely. You said that my edit looked "award." I asked you what you meant by that.--Michael Friedrich (talk) 14:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes it is...

...an answer to your question. Saying that she is a "top rated actress" without saying why is a peacock term. The citation is meaningless because this is merely an opinion expressed by the writer of the article. PC78 (talk) 13:23, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

message

I got your message. It is not a good idea to for me get involved as an admin when I have edited an article. Anyway, I see signs that s/he may be willing to compromise with something all can live with. We will see what happens. --Slp1 (talk) 00:02, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Kamsahameda

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For making my day by confirming the ID of 'it". Cheers! ...Dave1185 (talk) 00:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Hibari Misora

Hi Caspian Blue. Hope all is well with you. I agree with you that the multiple user accounts are obviously sockpuppets of the same person. I also agree that the user's edits are becoming pretty disruptive. If you don't mind me offering an opinion, though, I suspect a user block will not resolve the problem. If he can jump from IP address to IP address, a block has a strong chance of provoking him further. As an alternative proposal, trying to engage with the user in dialogue on the talk page might work. Then again, it might not work (so far it's been fruitless for me), but at least it might calm things down a little. I don't know. It's just an idea I'm throwing out there. Best wishes, J Readings (talk) 00:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

FWIW, I started a checkuser...

. Any additional comments you have to make would be good! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

DYK for jeogori

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Cirt (talk) 10:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Help!

Hi! If you are not too busy, please answer this Korean question at ref. desk. Thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 14:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Cho Man-sik

Thanks for your edits here. — BillC 16:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

RFA

See my comment to your oppose on Ameliorate!'s RFA. And oh, can you archive come of this long talk page of yours? ;-) — Rlevse • Talk • 23:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

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