Misplaced Pages

• ... that Conversation Piece, a musical by Noel Coward, starred a French actress, Yvonne Printemps, who spoke no English? -- expanded by Tim Riley and me. -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that The Mass Psychology of Fascism, a book written by Wilhelm Reich in 1933, blamed sexual repression for the rise of fascism? new article, self-nom - Bsimmons666 (talk) 00:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Gorgeous Guy, a man featured in a photo posted on an internet message board, posted the photo while pretending to be someone else, and many of the comments about him that followed? New article, self nom. PS this hook is awful, need ideas - anyone? – How do you turn this on (talk) 23:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the recent persecution of albinos in Tanzania and Burundi is based on the belief that their body parts have magical power and impart prosperity? - new article, self-nom, Ekem (talk) 21:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Grigory Orlov is credited with subduing the Russian plague of 1770-1772? == self nom, new NVO (talk) 21:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Wales rugby international Harry Payne finished his playing career after breaking his ankle in a match, at the age of 84? -new article, self-nom by FruitMonkey (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after 40 years at CBS, Lou Dorfsman considered the 35 foot by 8½ foot Gastrotypographicalassemblage he created for the CBS Building's cafeteria to be "his magnum opus, his gift to the world"? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 18:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Polish composer Rafał Augustyn's "Symphony of Hymns" took 20 years to complete, typically lasts for 100 minutes and requires an orchestra of over 170 players? Ceoil 16:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Tropical Storm Beatriz of the 2005 Pacific hurricane season was the first tropical storm to form in June since Tropical Storm Carlos two years prior? -self nominated Cyclonebiskit (talk) 15:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that 1-1-7, the emergency telephone number for the Philippines, is the only emergency telephone number in the world that is accessible through both voice telephony and text messaging? (New article, self nom) --Sky Harbor 15:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Colonel Robert A. Smith Monument is believed to be the the second-biggest stone in the United States? (created by --Gen. Bedford 13:22, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

all fine - check wording. Six stones for 5 regiments? Victuallers (talk) 17:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I wondered about that too, but it's what the source said. C'est la vive.--Gen. Bedford 20:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the first military aerodrome in Britain (pictured) was at Larkhill, and the first squadron to use aeroplanes was formed there? Article expansion from stub, self nomination. Psychostevouk (talk) 10:30, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Divyamani is a rāgam (musical scale) in South Indian classical music? new article by VasuVR; Nom by Elucidate Ici pour humor 12:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the citadel and city at Sigiriya (pictured) were constructed by King Kashyapa I? -- new article self-nom by Chamal 10:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Italian tennis player Federico Luzzi was prohibited from wearing a shirt with a Playboy bunny logo while competing at the 2007 U.S. Open tournament? new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 06:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. I've italicized Playboy for you. – RyanCross (talk) 09:37, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the liberal film company Brave New Films has produced full-length videos and paper advertisements in addition to the viral videos for which it is known? Created and self-nom by User:Politizer. —Politizer /_contribs 04:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• Moved here from the Oct. 25 section. This was created on the 26th, not the 25th. – RyanCross (talk) 04:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... and verified. Thanks! – RyanCross (talk) 05:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Baseball Hall of Famer Mel Ott made his last appearance as a player when he pinch hit for Ken Trinkle?

• ALT:... that Mel Ott, Baseball Hall of Famer, made his last appearance as a player when he pinch hit for Ken Trinkle? Self-nom. – RyanCross (talk) 09:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• No problems here. Chamal 10:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that director Spencer Williams played a female fortune teller in his 1946 film Dirty Gertie from Harlem U.S.A.? (self-nom) 23:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that actress/singer Francine Everett took a clerical job at Harlem Hospital in New York City after she retired from the entertainment industry? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 23:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Roger Mobley, a child actor of the 1950s and 1960s associated with Walt Disney Productions, is now a Christian pastor in Newton, Texas?--new article, self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that former child actor Roger Mobley served as a Green Beret in the Vietnam War and is now a Christian pastor in Texas?--new article, self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk)
  • ... that Disney child actor Roger Mobley starred in the 1960s as the Richard Harding Davis character, "Gallegher", a newspaper reporter who fought crime and corruption?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Mossy leaf-tail gecko of Madagascar possesses dermal flaps, which makes its outline invisible?--Self nom--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 03:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 2000, Shaike Levi and the Gashash HaHiver trio were awarded the Israel Prize for their lifetime achievement and contribution to Israeli entertainment and society? -- Article expanded fivefold (from 787 bytes to 18,002 bytes) and self-nom by Jaakobou 09:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 25

• ... that Naganandini is the 30th Melakarta rāgam in the 72 melakarta rāgam system of Carnatic music? new article by VasuVR; nom by Elucidate Ici pour humor 12:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that pitcher Jackson Todd threw 13 shutouts during the 1973 college baseball season, a University of Oklahoma record which still stands? (self-nom, feel free to tweak hook. haven't done one of these in a while. Wizardman 21:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC))

• ... that famous drag queens are found from at least 1844 on, in 17 different countries including Brazil, Lebanon, and Ukraine? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 20:56, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• No qualifying article. Lists aren't included in the 1500 character limit according to #Instructions. Art LaPella (talk) 03:05, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the kukersite oil shale in Estonia was named after Kukruse settlement? Beagel (talk) 07:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

This hook works better if Kukruse has an article in English Misplaced Pages. Pls consider creating it and make this a double-DYK hook. You have ~4 days. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Fushun Shale Oil Plant in China is the largest oil shale plant in the world? Beagel (talk) 06:54, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during World War I, the German Army produced shale oil from Yarmouk oil shale deposit in Jordan to operate the Hijazi Railway? Beagel (talk) 06:15, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

This hook works better if Hijazi Railway has an article in English Misplaced Pages. Pls consider creating it and make this a double-DYK hook. You have ~4 days. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

The article is there. Fixed issue of different spelling (always happens with name from this region) and made double-hook.Beagel (talk) 05:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually, as the Hijazi Railway article is an old one, it can't be double-hook.Beagel (talk) 05:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the 2007 Bengali film Kaal based on the lives of four women trapped in the world of human trafficking, is in trouble with the Bengali regional censor board for its scenes being too graphic?-created by User:Jayantanth and nom by Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 03:00, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 1960 strikes against Dahomey President Hubert Maga's handling of the national economy became so serious that the police used tear gas? Expanded by ~one of many editorofthewikis ~ 02:45, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during Mexico City's colonial period so many grand mansions were built that the city gained the nickname of the "City of Palaces"?Thelmadatter (talk) 02:32, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Lake Pichola (pictured), an artificial fresh water lake created in the year 1362 AD, is named after the nearby Picholi village in Udaipur city? --Nvvchar (talk) 00:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the medieval Chichester Cathedral is the only English Cathedral that can be seen from the sea? Self nom. (See pic right) Amandajm (talk) 00:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that St Mary's Cathedral, Tuam, completed in 1878, contains a 12th century arch which has been called "the finest example of Hiberno-Romanesque architecture"? Self nom. Strawless (talk) 00:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the pro-communist Freie Lëtzebuerger Arbechterverband was the largest blue-collar trade union centre in Luxembourg in 1946? (self-nom) --Soman (talk) 00:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after failed attempts in 1964, 1968 and 1972, the Calgary Olympic Development Association successfully brought the 1988 Winter Olympics to Calgary, Canada? Resolute 00:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ALT:... that after failed attempts for 1964, 1968 and 1972, the Calgary Olympic Development Association successfully brought the Winter Olympics to Calgary, Canada in 1988? (Each unsuccessful bid failed years before the intended Olympic years.) --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• True enough. That wording is better. Resolute 21:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Ediacaran organism Eoandromeda may represent the earliest animal fossil – unless it turns out to be an alga? -- New article on recently described genus. Self nom. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 22:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Nolan Ryan had three wins and no losses as the California Angels' Opening Day starting pitcher? -- new article by SRE.K.A.L.24 (talk) and Rlendog (talk) 22:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the acceptance of a Cannes Gold Lion by the art director for Nike's Pretty television ad marked the first time the award was given to a Lebanese person? GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 21:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that Nike's Pretty television ad features Russian tennis player Maria Sharapova being serenaded to the tune of West Side Story's "I Feel Pretty"? GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 21:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Wingspread Conference on the Precautionary Principle established the internationally accepted definition of the precautionary principle? New article, self nom. Bsimmons666 (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during the mid-20th century, cemesto panels were used in both prefabricated housing and designs by prominent architects? -- new article (self-nom) --Orlady (talk) 20:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that six of the seven destinations added by Horizon Air (plane pictured) in 1982 when they purchased Air Oregon, are still operated today? Self expansion from no lead to a 1,500+ char article. --Admrboltz (talk) 20:47, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. Nice expansion! – RyanCross (talk) 01:27, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Dutch ophthalmologist Petrus Johannes Waardenburg first defined Waardenburg syndrome in 1951? new article by AdjustShift (talk) 20:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that that New York noise-rock band Flux Information Sciences′s 2001 album "Private/Public" was recorded before an invited audience of 50 friends who were asked to stand around the studio naked and blindfolded as the band played? Ceoil 16:42, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that New York noise-rock band Flux Information Sciences′s approach to rhythm was inspired by the mechanised sound of a metal stamping factory, described by vocalist Tristan Bechet as "truly...phenomenal, just...amazing and groovy"? Ceoil 17:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Japanese admiral Misu Sotarō (pictured) lost his left eye while commanding the Nisshin at Battle of Tsushima in the Russo-Japanese War? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 15:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that King Dhatusena who ruled Sri Lanka from 455 to 473, constructed eighteen irrigation tanks, an irrigation canal and the Avukana Buddha Statue? -- new article self-nom by Chamal 14:48, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that angry St Ives, New South Wales residents threatened to boycott upcoming film Accidents Happen by playing the bagpipes during filming? (self-nom) —97198 (talk) 13:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that every Accidents Happen cast member except Geena Davis feigns an American accent for the film, set in Connecticut? —97198 (talk) 13:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
• ALT: ... that Accidents Happen won an Inside Film Award for Best Unproduced Screenplay in 2004, but did not go into production until mid-2008? —97198 (talk) 13:57, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that there are 91 locks on the Canal du Midi? New article created and self-nommed by Nancy 13:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that M J Roots created a German language article even though he doesn't speak German? New article created and sel-nom by Mjroots (talk) 09:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Hook is not from an article. It's just a fact about a user's achievement, not something that the general reader of Misplaced Pages would be interested in. Chamal 09:23, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Lol, I knew someone would do that! Mjroots (talk) 09:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Louis-Maurice Boutet de Monvel won a medal as a fine artist in Paris before becoming a children's book illustrator? Durova 09:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that John Philip Sousa's "Transit of Venus March" (audio) was rediscovered by a staffer at the Library of Congress in 2003 after it had been believed lost for over 100 years? <new article, self nom - 1655 characters (including spaces) when I counted, but it's increased since then> DendodgeTalk 09:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

  Update: Character count now 1854, not including references, notes, infobox, captions, 'see also' section, categories, or wiki markup. DendodgeTalk 18:30, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that despite pioneer Japanese journalist Kuga Katsunan′s advocacy of Japanese nationalism, government censors shut his newspaper down thirty times between 1889 and 1896? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 07:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Apega of Nabis was an ancient torture device invented by King Nabis (pictured on coins) of ancient Sparta based on his wife, the real Queen Apega? – self-nom/new article, hook at 113 characters (no spaces)/138 (with spaces); article with 1,944 characters (no spaces)/2,344 (with spaces) - AnakngAraw (talk) 06:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that despite being acclaimed by critics, the pilot episode of the television series Veronica Mars was one of the least watched episodes of the week? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Here is the old revision, and here is the new one. Corn.u.co.pia / Disc.us.sion 06:15, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Which week? --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:09, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Going My Way, a 1962–1963 ABC drama about a Roman Catholic priest based on the Best Picture of 1944, was Gene Kelly's only attempt at series television?--new article, self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 17:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• Fact/s cited to unreliable source, IMDb. —97198 (talk) 03:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Awards and achievements Preceded by Casablanca Academy Award for Best Picture 1944 Going My Way Succeedeb by The Lost Weekend

The 1944 Best Picture hardly needs special citation. Going My Way the film has no source but IMDB either. In fact, nearly all of the Misplaced Pages entertainment articles are from IMDb and little else.Billy Hathorn (talk) 02:04, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the cruise ship Costa Allegra (pictured) was originally built as the container ship Annie Johnson? — 5x expansion and self-nomination by — Kjet (talk · contribs) 23:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Two possibilities here:

• ... that the Troy, New York post office is one of only three in the U.S. with a Waldo Peirce mural (Rip Van Winkle, pictured) in the lobby?
• ... that the Troy, New York post office (pictured) has been in ten different places since it was first established in 1796? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 19:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 24

• ... that in the novel A Walk to Remember by American writer Nicholas Sparks, fictional character Jamie Sullivan is actually alive? -- new article, self-nom by Efe (talk) 08:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Do you mean "Jamie Sullivan is actually a real person"? Why do people think he's dead? --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

She's a fictional character. I think I need someone to help me phrase this one. --Efe (talk) 07:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• • (alt) ... that American writer Nicholas Sparks did not add elements of fornication in his 1999 novel A Walk to Remember, although its present in his previous works, for fear of backlash from teenage readers? --Efe (talk) 07:52, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that William Headline, who spent 12 years as the Washington, D.C. bureau chief for CNN, was described by Wolf Blitzer as having "the best name in news"? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 03:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the call made by Limnodynastes dorsalis, a frog species in Western Australia, is similar to the sound of a plucked banjo string? -- new article by Cygnis insignis (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 21:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that children have trouble attributing implicit meaning to aspect verbs such as "start" (implicates non-completion), but find implicit meaning in degree modifiers such as "half" (as in half finished)? -- new article on an under populated DYK topic by Americanlinguist and -- Suntag ☼ 17:02, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Yellowspotted trevally is a species of inshore marine fish of family Carangidae found in the Indo-Pacific region?-created by User:Kare Kare and nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 10:28, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that P. T. Rajan, the Chief Minister of Madras Presidency from April 4, 1936 to August 24, 1936 and father of Tamil politician Palanivel Rajan, was a graduate of Jesus College, Oxford?-expanded five-fold and self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 09:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that 2.2 million people participated in the U.S. 2008 Kids Pick the President event held by the Nickelodeon TV network? -- new article by Wikidemon; Nom by -- Suntag ☼ 04:16, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Verified. Royalbroil 04:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Inkognitogata 18, the official Residence of the Prime Minister of Norway, has been finished in 2008 and is the first official residence of a Norwegian prime minister in over 30 years?.-- article expanded from one line, self nom by --Inge (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Change to "was finished" for better grammar Nyttend (talk) 01:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Better make "is" the main verb of the hook. The "first" bit is more interesting than the "when" bit. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Neoclassical style Embassy of Germany in Saint Petersburg (pictured), whilst reviled by the Saint Petersburg artistic community, was admired by Adolf Hitler? -- new article, self nom by --Russavia 20:21, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Length & date fine. Offline hook and foreign language (russian) hooks accepted in good faith. Chamal 05:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Russian ref checks out. Daniel Case (talk) 21:13, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that there have been six U.S. Presidents who were left-handed and one who was ambidextrous? --new list, self-nom by Jengod jengod (talk) 19:41, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• Currently at AfD (no votes as yet). Even if it is kept, the non-list prose needs to be 1500+ characters - this is only three little sentences. —97198 (talk) 00:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• AfD update: surge of delete votes, unlikely this'll be kept. —97198 (talk) 08:52, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• Now looks like it will be kept.--Gen. Bedford 14:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that lawyer Hal Kant spent 35 years as principal lawyer and general counsel for the Grateful Dead, exercising so much influence with the band that his business cards identified his role as "Czar"? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 18:27, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Australian-born lumber executive John A. Campbell was said to have introduced the sport of surfing on the Cornwall coast of England? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 16:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Daryl Veltman was the first overall selection in the 2008 Entry Draft by the Boston Blazers of the National Lacrosse League? -- new article by User; Nom by Mitico (talk) 14:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Actually created and nominated by Mitico. Nyttend (talk) 01:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Abram S. Piatt was an American Zouave colonel and Civil War general who later built a castle in Logan County, Ohio? -- new article by 8th Ohio Volunteers; nom by Nyttend (talk) 13:30, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during the Vietnam War the North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong hung buckets of mud with urine in trees to thwart American people sniffers? Self nom: --IvoShandor (talk) 13:19, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, date and online hook ref verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. Interesting article. --Bruce1ee 13:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks, I stumbled on something somewhere that called these things "exotic", quite odd, all in all. --IvoShandor (talk) 15:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the William Forst House (pictured) was the site where the Confederate government of Kentucky was founded? (created by --Gen. Bedford 13:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I did not quite understand what the two references given in the article (Clark and Cronan) are. Are they books? Or something else? Could you clarify please? Nsk92 (talk) 05:02, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

They are two separate National Register of Historic Places documents, which is what the National Park Service uses to decide if they are worthy of belonging on the National Register. In other words, they are reliable sources.--Gen. Bedford 05:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

How and where are they accessible? Would they be available in a good library? Or on the National Register of Historic Places website? Nsk92 (talk) 05:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Some libraries have them, and you can request copies of them from the NPS.--Gen. Bedford 05:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. Could you maybe add a source of a more traditional type (a book or an article) for this? For example, "The Kentucky Encyclopedia" also mentions this fact, and the relevant page there is actually available for preview online via googlebooks. Nsk92 (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Shouldn't have to, as the NHRP are "traditional" but I did. However, Kleber makes an chronological error, as it wouldn't be called Clark House until the 1920s, so the NRHP is a better source. The NRHP forms have long been acceptable, so it should be good enough.--Gen. Bedford 14:20, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that purity of the Sasthamkotta Lake water for drinking use is attributed to presence of a large amount of larvae called cavaborus, which removes bacteria from the lake water significantly? --Nvvchar (talk) 10:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Sir Winston Churchill competed in the 1972 Tall Ships Race with an all-female crew? New article created and self-nom by Mjroots (talk) 08:48, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ...Worded properly, this would make a nice April Fools DYK. Worth saving until then? GeeJo ⁄_(c) • 22:34, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Now only ~1220 characters in text. Kablammo (talk) 01:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I've expanded the article a bit more. No objection to it being an April Fools DYK as long as it is guaranteed to appear. Mjroots (talk) 05:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• Date, size, and reference confirmed; this would be an excellent DYK for April Fools (it's hard to imagine a better hook). Kablammo (talk) 12:42, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that actor Gaius Charles (pictured) grew up in the childhood home of composer Alan Silvestri? (self-nom) —97198 (talk) 07:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ALT: ... that actor Gaius Charles (pictured) is named for Gaius Julius Caesar? —97198 (talk) 07:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Dr. Karla Jessen Williamson of Maniitsoq, Greenland is the first woman and first Inuk to hold the position of Executive Director at the Arctic Institute of North America? (new; self nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 04:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
  • ... that Kalaallit Dr. Karla Jessen Williamson was Editor of the Journal of Indigenous Studies before she became the first woman and first Inuk Executive Director at the Arctic Institute of North America? (both new; self nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 02:38, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Jesse and Virgil Barnes, who each made two Opening Day starts for the New York Giants, were brothers? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 01:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that despite being built for the Spanish Navy, HMS Santa Margarita spent just five years in service with them, but served for nearly 60 years with the Royal Navy? - new article, self nom, Benea (talk) 01:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• Date & length okay; offline refs AGFd. Nice hook. —97198 (talk) 14:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Three Emperors' Corner is a former tripoint between the Austrian Empire, German Empire and the Russian Empire, created in the late 19th century in the aftermath of the partitions of Poland? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that former Norwegian government minister Johan Henrik Rye Holmboe was subject to an impeachment case in 1926–1927, but found not guilty? -- self-nom by expander Punkmorten (talk) 20:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Northern River Street Historic District (pictured) is a well-preserved transitional neighborhood between the industrial and commercial areas of Troy, New York? Self-nom Daniel Case (talk) 21:09, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 23

• ... that Abandon's music was first discovered when a record label manager was dining and got distracted by hearing them play a concert next door? Self-nom, new article. The funny anecdote is hard to write in a hook-style, but I think this wording is decent. Feel free to comment with suggestions. JamieS93 13:24, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Captain Abu Raed is the first Jordanian feature film made in over 50 years and is Jordan's submission to the 81st Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film? (created and self-nom) Reywas92 02:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after suffering from serious design problems the Norwegian Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.9 fighter aircraft was retired in 1932 on the orders of defence minister Vidkun Quisling? New article co-nom by Rlandmann (talk) and Manxruler (talk) 17:46, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Manor Community College, a Cambridge school, has a headteacher who used to present a BBC Childen's programme? self nom Victuallers (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.10 seaplane was a military trainer of the Royal Norwegian Navy Air Service, and served from 1929 until the 1940 German invasion of Norway? New article co-nom by Rlandmann (talk) and Manxruler (talk) 03:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 1953 the U.S. Army used human subjects to test decontamination methods for chemical and biological agents as part of Operation Top Hat? Self nom:--IvoShandor (talk) 16:43, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that painter Henrietta Rae burned Valentine Prinsep's hat in revenge for his smearing one of her works with cobalt blue paint? ~ New article by Ugajin; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC).

Length, date & hook verified. Mitico (talk) 16:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Dorothy Miner was acknowledged as the person "who helped establish the legal right to designate landmarks" for her role in the case Penn Central Transportation Co. v. New York City? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 00:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Hook, refs, & article length verified. I think the hook should in include "in the United States" for clarity/specificity. However, adding this text would make the hook 206 characters. Dropping "the case" would make in 197. Mitico (talk) 16:24, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ALT (per suggestion above)... that Dorothy Miner was acknowledged as the person "who helped establish the legal right to designate landmarks" in the United States for her role in Penn Central Transportation Co. v. New York City? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 00:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 1894, US$20,000 to US$40,000 mysteriously disappeared from the Mississippi Levee Board, of which General Samuel W. Ferguson (pictured) was both secretary and treasurer? new article self nom --Duke R. Oliver I 22:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hook, refs, & article length verified. The hook is sourced to the note "Black,Barnwell's, 9-10." But this source is not provided.Fixed. (Image licensing may be questionable, too. Likely okay, but plausible that life of the photographer plus 100 years not met). -Mitico (talk) 16:47, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Can someone else take a look at this. Should DYK just assume good faith here & move on? My question is: is the source provided reliable? Per google books Its a literary travel guide that asks the reader to have a "sense of humor." (I am taking it out of context?) Some (limited) independent research did not provide any further verification of this hook. The hook is compelling, but I am just unsure about it accuracy. I left a note on the nom's talk. Thanks, Mitico (talk) 21:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that D'Oyly Carte Opera Company actor Frank Wyatt trained as an artist at the Royal Academy in London before appearing in The Gondoliers in 1889? new article self nom Jack1956 (talk) 21:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

OR ... that in 1889 Frank Wyatt created the role of the Duke of Plaza Toro in The Gondoliers before becoming owner of the Duke of York's Theatre? -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:55, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the yellow-bellied slider (pictured) of the southeastern United States is the most common turtle species within its range? (self-nom) Howcheng (talk · contribs) 21:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• Length and fact referencing verified. It looks like the article expansion actually began on Oct 22, however, by a few hours. JamieS93 16:01, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Against All Odds is a video game developed by the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees designed to teach players about the plight of refugees? New article, self nom. - hahnchen 20:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, date and hook refs verified. --Bruce1ee 13:54, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Dushanbe riots in 1990 were sparked by the rumour that a couple thousand Armenian refugees from Azerbaijan had been resettled to Dushanbe? -- new article self-nom by M0RD00R (talk) 20:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the roof of the 12th-century St Nicolas Church, Portslade (pictured) had to be jacked back into place over several months in 1959, having moved a foot out of alignment over the centuries? ~ Self-nom of another new Brighton & Hove church article. Maybe could use a convert template for the 1-foot (0.30 m) measurement??... Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Santa Maria de Lara, an ancient Visigoth church, contains the earliest representation of Christ in Spain? J. Thompson (talk) 19:39, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the high school quiz competition Brain Game has aired on local television in Indianapolis since 1972? (created and self-nom) Reywas92 19:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that as founder and former chairman of Primedia, Bill Reilly built a collection of more than 200 magazines that included American Baby, National Hog Farmer, Chicago and New York? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 19:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Russian born Israeli mathematician Aryeh Dvoretzky is the first graduate of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem to become a full professor there? (created and self-nom) Mhym (talk) 17:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Süreyya Opera House in Istanbul, built in 1927 as a musical theater but used all the time as a cinema, gained its intended status only in 2007 after redevelopment? (created and self-nom) CeeGee (talk) 12:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that when Cornelius Holmboe was appointed Norwegian Minister of Justice in 1928, the cabinet lasted only for eighteen days? -- self-nom by expander Punkmorten (talk) 15:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Russellville Historic District, which includes the Confederate Monument in Russellville, is the site of the first documented bank robbery of Jesse James? (created by --Gen. Bedford 11:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the fee for Hugh McLenahan's move from Stockport County to Manchester United in May 1927 was a freezer full of ice cream? -- Article expanded fivefold (from 477 characters to 2385 characters) and self-nom by – PeeJay 11:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Suggested alternate wording ... that Manchester United gave Stockport County a freezer full of ice cream in exchange for the transfer of Hugh McLenahan in May 1927? – PeeJay 11:00, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
  • ALT: ... that in exchange for the transfer of association footballer Hugh McLenahan in May 1927, Manchester United gave Stockport County a freezer full of ice cream? -- can't expect everyone to know that the hook is about football. Punkmorten (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Holton Windmill (pictured) did not have a fantail when it was a working mill? Article created and self nom by Mjroots (talk) 07:56, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the permanent collection on display at Ye Olde Curiosity Shop in Seattle, Washington includes fir needle baskets, narwhal tusks, and "Sylvester" (pictured), an excellently preserved mummy? - (new, self-nom) Jmabel | Talk 06:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that between 1874 and 1884, Norwegian politician Jens Holmboe was the head of four different government ministries, each on at least two occasions, the tenure ending with impeachment? -- self-nom by expander Punkmorten (talk) 14:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Conversion of Chelm Eparchy represented part of the struggle between the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church? --article by User:Faustian, nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in the aftermath of the Second Partition of Poland in 1793, the Kościuszko Uprising occurred in 1794? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 23:45, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that an episode of The Greatest Show on Earth, a circus drama which aired on ABC in 1963–1964, featured studio boss Lucille Ball as a circus performer?--self-nom, new article Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that ABC's The Greatest Show on Earth (1963-1964) featured Jack Palance as a circus manager involved in the private lives of his performers?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

OR

• ... that guest stars on The Greatest Show on Earth, an ABC circus drama in 1963-1964, included Lucille Ball, Dwayne Hickman, Jack Lord, James Coburn, and Edgar Bergen?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:22, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Vietnamese people are the largest group of resident foreigners from Asia in Germany, totalling 83,526 people as of 2004? Article created by User:CaliforniaAliBaba. Vinhtantran (talk) 16:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ALT:... that the largest group of Asian residents in Germany are Vietnamese, totalling 83,526 people as of 2004? --74.13.126.203 (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 22

• ... that in Mesoamerican folklore it is believed that a dog (Itzcuintli pictured) carries the newly deceased across a body of water into the afterlife? -- new article by User:Simon Burchell; nom by Bruce1ee 06:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
  • ALT: ... that in Aztec mythology the first dogs (Itzcuintli pictured) were created by the god Tezcatlipoca when he severed the heads of a disobedient man and woman and stitched them onto their rears? -- new article by User:Simon Burchell; nom by Bruce1ee 06:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in 874, Byzantine admiral Niketas Oryphas hauled his ships overland over the Isthmus of Corinth in order to catch a Saracen fleet by surprise and defeat it? -- new article self-nom by Constantine ✍ 22:35, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Nice article and an interesting hook. I do have a question that I am somewhat unsure about, and maybe others could chime in here. My impression is that the term Saracen, when used by the Europeans in the middle ages, had pretty strong negative connotations and was and still is somewhat derogatory. I looked up the reference cited (which actually is available for online preview via googlebooks, and one can preview page 457 of the book which is cited in the article as an off-line source, see preview page here). The terms used there are "Arabs" or "Arabs of Crete" or "Cretan Arabs". Would it be better, for NPOV reasons, to replace "Saracen fleet" by "Arab fleet" in the hook? Nsk92 (talk) 01:30, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes of course, no problem. I used "Saracens" without thinking too much, because it encapsulates the (Western) image of the "Arab pirate/raider". I didn't really think of POV.

Ergo ALT hook: ... that in 874, Byzantine admiral Niketas Oryphas hauled his ships overland over the Isthmus of Corinth in order to catch an Arab fleet by surprise and defeat it? Constantine ✍ 12:23, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

ALT hook looks good. Date and length of the article verified, reference verified, length of the hook (under 200 characters) verified. Ready to go. I do recommend to the nom that you include a weblink to the googlebooks preview for the item in the Sources section (Treadgold's book) which is cited in the article for the hook fact. Right now the book is listed as an off-line source, which is fine, but since a free online preview of the relevant page and of a substantial other portion of the book is available, it'be nice to include it. Nsk92 (talk) 14:19, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that a former White House media manager was hired to make the political television comedy Running Mates more realistic? - new article, self-nominated by SWik78 (talk • contribs) 14:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• Date, length & ref all good. —97198 (talk) 08:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the proposed Macau security law would make treason punishable by a maximum of 25 years in prison? ~ New article by Benjwong; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:53, 24 October 2008 (UTC).

• ... that key relevance is a locksmithing term that refers to the measurable difference between an original key and a copy made of that key? -- new article by User:WmLawson; nom by Bruce1ee 07:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Utu Abe Malae and the American Samoa Power Authority received an award from the Mayor of Honolulu for their policies promoting sustainable development? -- new article, self nom Scanlan (talk) 01:01, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Bloodhound SSC is a pencil-shaped car powered by a jet engine and a rocket being designed to travel at approximately 1,000 miles per hour (1,609 km/h)? - started by User:Kristianrj & nom by — Rod 18:11, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, date & ref verified. Nice hook. Chamal 12:09, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that mitochondrial DNA testing of the 300 to 500 year old Canadian mummy Kwäday Dän Ts’ìnchi and current clans of the area revealed 17 living relatives? -- New article, self nominated by scot (talk)

• ... that the freshwater snail Radix auricularia (pictured), common name the big-ear radix, can tolerate anoxic conditions and is vector for a diverse range of parasites? Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Snek01 (talk) 14:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

other version can have additional: - "range of parasites, some of which can infect humans." --Snek01 (talk) 14:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that artist Henrietta Ward claimed she gave her husband's friend Wilkie Collins the idea for his novel The Woman In White? ~ New article by Ugajin; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC). Probably my favourite novel of all time, incidentally.

Length, date verifieid. Offline hook reference accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that after Egypt was officially granted independence from Britain on 22 February 1922, the Egyptian Ministry of Foreign Affairs was reestablished on 15 March 1922? new article by AdjustShift (talk) 03:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Vince Naimoli, founding owner of the Tampa Bay Rays, contributed $1 million in 2007 for the construction of a baseball complex at Fairleigh Dickinson University in Teaneck, New Jersey? -- article created by nom, five-fold expansion by User:66.67.7.33 / User:Alansohn, nom by Alansohn (talk) 03:38, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Indian indigenous tribal journalist and activist Dayamani Barla once worked as a maid to pay her way through University?Taprobanus (talk) 02:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:49, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Convention on the Continental Shelf codified international law relating to continental shelves during the first United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea? Article created and self-nom by Bsimmons666 (talk) 01:28, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that many of the tendencies within anarchism that Chaz Bufe criticized in his influential pamphlet Listen, Anarchist!, including "lifestyle anarchism", are thought to have stemmed from the movement's individualist, Stirnerite wing? Sesame Street is brought to you today by the user the skomorokh 00:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Hook has 231 characters. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Rosie. Are these any better?

• • Alt 1 ... that many of the tendencies within anarchism that Chaz Bufe criticized in his influential pamphlet Listen, Anarchist! are thought to have stemmed from the movement's individualist, Stirnerite wing?
  • Alt 2 ... that the "lifestylist" tendency in anarchism criticised by Chaz Bufe in his influential pamphlet Listen, Anarchist! is thought to have stemmed from the movement's individualist, Stirnerite wing? the skomorokh 15:34, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Length, date, and Alt1 hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that using the memory of his sister as motivation, Tyler Sloan made his National Hockey League debut on October 21 after seven years in the minor leagues? (Created by Canuck85, significantly expanded by myself) Resolute 23:43, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Global Health Council is an international membership alliance of public health professionals in more than 100 countries? --Article created and self-nom by -- Banjeboi 23:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
  • FWIW, here's the ref. -- Banjeboi 23:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that educational music has been shown in research to promote learning? --Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Hpadgett 11:55, 22 October 2008 (EST)

I've left a note with this new user, asking him/her to reword this hook so it follows the style of Did you know entries. -- How do you turn this on (talk) 18:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

First sentence on its own would be better. -- How do you turn this on (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that at any given time, the United States holds as many as 10,000 illegal immigrants in administrative detention while they await removal proceedings? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Canadian Monkey (talk) 17:54, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Luther Prentice Bradley, an American Civil War Union brigadier general, was severely wounded during the Battle of Chickamauga where he commanded a brigade? new article by AdjustShift (talk) 16:54, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that pilots participating in the Hawgsmoke competition drink whiskey then smash the glasses, in honor and remembrance of old friends and colleagues? Nom by --Gwib (talk), article by Ndunruh

• ... that tin(IV) fluoride, a chemical compound of tin and fluorine, has a planar structure consisting of octahedra sharing four corners with the terminal, unshared, fluorine atoms trans to one another? new article by User:Axiosaurus, nomination by AdjustShift (talk) 15:00, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Date and length OK, but I have several concerns. First, and that is the main issue, the hook needs to be re-written in plain language understandable to non-experts. I have a PhD in Math but I could not quite unparse the meaning of the hook after reading it a couple of times. Trans? You could use a different fact from the article for a hook, e.g. something related to the compound's melting point. (Remember, however, that the hook needs to be no more than 200 characters long). Second, while the article is above the 1500 character minimum (although not by much), it does feel rather short and stubby. It'd be preferable to have it expanded a little. On a related note, I'd like to see more than just two references in the References section. Nsk92 (talk) 21:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I gave the hook some wikilinks, including ]. Art LaPella (talk) 07:10, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, the article was started by User:Axiosaurus, and I did left a note on his talkpage. AdjustShift (talk) 14:02, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I have added a bit to the article as we do need some more scientific articles. Can I suggest the nom below as intriguing and approachable by a schoolchild chemistVictuallers (talk) 15:37, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that SnCl₄ + 4HF → SnF₄ + 4HCl?

That's a remarkable hook. AdjustShift (talk) 16:49, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

But it's unbalanced. Did you mean 4HCl? Art LaPella (talk) 20:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I like this innovative approach. Please balance it and let's use this hook. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:52, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Done. We have now agreed to correct the article and the hook. Art LaPella (talk) 18:10, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

I have got to say that I strongly dislike this version, even more than the original hook and for the same reasons. It is innovative but too much so. Many, possibly most, readers will not understand what this formula means. I think that a DYK hook needs to be in the form of an English sentence and needs to be written in plain language understandable to non-experts. Nsk92 (talk) 00:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Ok, you have your point but I don't see anything much interesting in the toothpaste hook. I think the fact that fluoride is used in toothpaste is a common knowledge, no? --BorgQueen (talk) 12:12, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

True, but I am not sure it is very common knowledge as to which particular fluoride compound (or compounds?) is used in toothpaste. I would have actually preferred to see a hook for this entry based on some other fact from article which is both more novel than the toothpaste thing and more understandable than the chemical reaction formula. E.g. the article does mention that this compound has a much higher melting temperature that other tin(IV) halides. Nsk92 (talk) 14:31, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, how about this:

• ... that tin(IV) fluoride is used in toothpaste to prevent dental decay? -- I have added the requisite reference to the article. Nsk92 (talk) 01:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Should there be a space between "tin" and "(IV)"? --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:01, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Usually]. Art LaPella (talk) 19:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that critical semiconductors for Soviet missile guidance systems were for 19 years manufactured in Tondi Elektroonika, a factory located in Tallinn in Soviet-occupied Estonia? Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 14:55, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
  • "Soviet-occupied Estonia" seems to me a polemical phrase.- Jmabel | Talk 16:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Polemical, and subject to at least one arbcom - let's just use the redirect target to Estonian Soviet Socialist Republic and avoid too much controversy in the hook.--_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 16:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
    • It may seem such to you at first glance, but I'm sure you'll find it well-supported in the relevant WP:RS if you do a little bit of research. Διγουρεν_{Εμπρος!} 17:34, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm not saying it is inaccurate, just that it is polemical. It is not a neutral choice of words. - Jmabel | Talk 06:25, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Arif Ali-Shah, an award-winning British film writer and screenplay writer, is also a teacher in the Naqshbandi Sufi mystical tradition? new article by User:Esowteric, nomination by AdjustShift (talk) 14:27, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that among Lexington, Kentucky's contributions to the American Civil War were United States first lady Mary Todd Lincoln and Confederate leaders John C. Breckinridge, John Hunt Morgan, and Basil W. Duke? (created by --Gen. Bedford 12:19, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Apple Valley Airport near Buxton, Oregon, was built by Portland, Oregon TV personality Ramblin' Rod Anders? (expansion, self) Aboutmovies (talk) 08:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that at the time of her completion in 1918, American cargo ship West Lianga held the distinction of being both the fastest-launched and the fasted-constructed ocean-going ship in the world? -- new article self-nom by Bellhalla (talk) 04:15, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• Hmm... Is the ship really referred to as a "she"? – RyanCross (talk) 04:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• Ships are generally referred to as "she", therefore use of "her" is correct.Mjroots (talk) 05:52, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• Alright, thanks, I just wanted that clarified. Looks good. – RyanCross (talk) 06:59, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Tang Dynasty chancellor Qiao Lin was both born and executed on the seventh day of the seventh month of the Chinese lunar calendar? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 03:59, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 04:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Born and executed on Qi Xi? --74.13.128.34 (talk) 18:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Nothing romantic about it, for Chancellor Qiao. --Nlu (talk) 02:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that in Anyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea, one of the roads will sing the nursery rhyme "Mary Had a Little Lamb" to drivers? (New article, self nom) Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 03:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• Verified. – RyanCross (talk) 04:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• I suggest that this be used for the April Fool's Day DYK section in 2009. Imzadi1979 (talk) 06:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• Either works for me. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Why is the future tense used in this hook? --74.13.128.34 (talk) 14:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

how about "... that in Anyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea, one of the roads sings the nursery rhyme "Mary Had a Little Lamb" as vehicles drive over it?" Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 19:01, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

ALT hook suggestion: "... that in Anyang, Gyeonggi, South Korea, a road sings the nursery rhyme "Mary Had a Little Lamb" to passing car drivers on the road?" I'm thinking a rewording like that would sounds a little better. Cheers, JamieS93 23:27, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Édouard Deperthes, a prominent French architect of the 19th century, received no fewer than nine medals and was made a knight of the Legion d'Honneur for his architecture? - self nom by LGF1992UK (talk) 15:36, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that production on the 1969 Fred Zinnemann film Man's Fate was canceled one week before shooting was to begin? (self nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 20:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Length, date and hook ref verified. --Bruce1ee 14:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Julio A. Garcia, called a "legal lion" by his hometown newspaper in Laredo, Texas, once broke a bone in his hand as he passionately defended a client in court?--new article, self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:21, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Nice new article (by the way, this is a new article, although the nom does not say it), date and length OK, and I like the hook. However, there is a minor issue that needs to be addressed first. The citation related to the fact given in the hook needs to occur in the same sentence where this fact is mentioned in the article (rather than at the end of the following sentence as appears to be the case now). Nsk92 (talk) 21:40, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Note: Will this change be acceptable?Billy Hathorn (talk) 01:52, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but which change? All that needs to be done is to add a citation (referring to the current ref. no 5, "Garcia played life as a giant") in the text of the article itself in the same sentence where the episode with breaking the hand is mentioned. For example, you can put the citation at the end of that sentence in the article, right after "he broke a bone in his hand." That is all that is needed. Nsk92 (talk) 02:36, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, now everything looks good. Date and length OK, online reference verified, good hook, ready to go. Nsk92 (talk) 12:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Julio A. Garcia, a prominent attorney in Laredo, Texas, was also involved in the treatment of heroin addicts and in the prevention of child abuse?--self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 10:36, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
• Who nominated this hook? – RyanCross (talk) 06:04, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

That's Billy Hathorn's work, Ryan. Ecoleetage (talk) 10:18, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I like the hook directly above this one (for the same article) better. Nsk92 (talk) 12:29, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Amrutanjan pain balm was created by Indian freedom fighter Kasinadhuni Nageswara Rao in 1893?-self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 03:41, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Stanley Kubrick's first film, Fear and Desire was made on a budget of just $10,000, which was raised by Kubrick's friends and family?
  • ... that during the filming of Stanley Kubrick's first film, Fear and Desire, the cast and crew were almost asphyxiated by a crop sprayer rigged to produce fog, but which still contained insecticide?
    • Note: body text words before expansion=230, after 1222; a 5.31 x expansion. Nom for User:Ecoleetage by--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:54, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
• ... that Stanley Kubrick dismissed his 1953 film Fear and Desire as "a bumbling amateur film exercise?" (5x expansion, from 1138 to 5894 characters, self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 23:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
  • 5x expansion confirmed, date and hook ref ok. I removed the stub tag as it's no longer a stub. --Bruce1ee 13:54, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that glamorous British actress Glynis Johns bombed in a 1963 CBS sitcom called Glynis, in which she played a mystery writer, with Keith Andes as her lawyer-husband?--new article, on request from TV schedule Billy Hathorn (talk) 04:30, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that women baring their breasts in front of higher class people and deities was considered a sign of respect in the 19th century Travancore kingdom in South India? (Self-nom) Docku:“what up?” 17:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Length and date good, offline hook refs accepted in good faith. Added "the" in front of "19th century" and changed "were" to "was" (I think that's right). --Bruce1ee 08:23, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• Two possibilities:
  • ... that the Delmar, New York post office (pictured) is the only one currently in use in Albany County listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
  • ... that the Delmar post office is the only one of the 13 in New York designed by Louis Simon in the Colonial Revival style without a cupola? Self-nom. Unusualness of first hook comes from the fact that Albany County includes Albany and many other suburbs with old, historic buildings, whereas Delmar is a suburb in a rural area. Daniel Case (talk) 03:44, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that during the interwar period chief of the U.S. Army's Chemical Warfare Service Amos Fries viewed chemical disarmament as a Communist plot? Self nom: --IvoShandor (talk) 02:11, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
  • Verified, offline hook ref accepted in good faith. The article was created on October 22 and I've moved it there. --Bruce1ee 08:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on October 21

• ... that Paal Brekke has been called the father of modernism in Norway? --self-nom, Oceanh (talk) 19:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC).

Added two wikilinks. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that former Ohio House of Representatives, Minority Whip and current U.S. House of Representatives Democratic nominee Steve Driehaus (pictured) coordinated the largest U.S. – "new" South Africa professional exchange program?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:31, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• I could use some help shortening it.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• I couldn't come up with a shorter hook for now, so adding this tag because of the 224 characters. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• I don't think the letters in "(pictured)" and the space before it count so it is not 224 characters.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• (revised)... that former Ohio House of Representatives, Minority Whip and current U.S. House of Representatives candidate Steve Driehaus (pictured) coordinated the largest U.S. – "new" South Africa professional exchange program?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that The Best Little Girl in the World, a 1981 film about anorexia nervosa, was back in the news in 1983 when performer Karen Carpenter died of complications from the same disorder? -- new article by User:Moviefan; nom by Bruce1ee 07:26, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• Length, date and fact referencing verified. JamieS93 01:22, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the earliest references to the hill station of Kodaikanal had been made in works of Sangam literature?-created by User:Marcus334 and nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 04:27, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• I have elaborated on the Sangam Literature references in History_of_Kodaikanal#Ancient_times. One has to follow the links there to really get it. These connections are further explained in Kodaikanal#Etymology. Marcus (talk) 20:00, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Tamil film Meera based on the life of poetess-saint Mirabai was filmed at the actual places which Mirabai had visited on her pilgrimage?- self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 03:42, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.12, the last trainer of the Royal Norwegian Navy Air Service and the intended replacement of the 1920s Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.8, was only built in a prototype before the German invasion of Norway halted work? New article co-nom by Rlandmann (talk) and Manxruler (talk) 23:12, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• This version is a 250 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 06:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• Wait a minute. Of course I know of the 200 character rule, but isn't there something about double noms being allowed a greater number of characters? Manxruler (talk) 16:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
• Yep. See C7 in your own list. Manxruler (talk) 16:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

I guess that why Art LaPella gave it a slash, instead of a cross. --74.13.126.203 (talk) 18:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed the double nom. Art LaPella (talk) 19:03, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Cool. I just figured I'd missed some new rule somewhere. Manxruler (talk) 20:51, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

• • Alt: ... that the prototype of the Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.12 seaplane trainer, intended to replace the 1920s designed Marinens Flyvebaatfabrikk M.F.8, first flew six days before its official first flight? New article co-nom by Rlandmann (talk) and Manxruler (talk) 18:40, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that although it was designed as a quick-n-dirty defensive weapon, the RIM-7 Sea Sparrow (pictured) remains NATO's primary short-range anti-aircraft missile after well over three decades? Maury Markowitz (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that when building the famed Hotel del Coronado, electrical wires were run inside the gaslines so gas could be piped to the rooms in case the "new-fangled" electricity didn't work? Self nom by: -- Ljmajer (talk) 09:32, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
  • The hook is too long at 232 characters. It shouldn't be more than 200 characters. --Bruce1ee 13:47, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the heads up Bruce1ee. I shortened it (186 characters w/ spaces). Can it be reconsidered here, or does it need to be resubmitted. -- Ljmajer (talk) 16:58, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
      • The hook is fine now, but unfortunately you've only expanded the article roughly 2-fold, not the required 5-fold or more (see rules above). Can you expand it some more? --Bruce1ee 06:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that the Church of England (Archbishop of Canterbury pictured) launched a Prayer for the Current Financial Situation that calls God to protect us from be a "a tower of strength amidst the shifting sands" of the global economic turmoil? -- self-nom by Odengatan (talk) 23:47, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
  • The hook is too long at 219 characters. If you leave out the (pictured) text (which AFAIK is included in the count because it consumes space on the Main Page) it's fine. And everything else checks out ok. --Bruce1ee 13:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
    • How about:... that the Church of England (Archbishop pictured) launched a Prayer for the Current Financial Situation that calls on God to protect us from the global economic turmoil? --Odengatan (talk) 18:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
      • You need an "on" in front of "God": "calls on God" not "calls God". (/me leaves off comments about the content) Mike Peel (talk) 19:33, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
        • Length, date and hook ref verified. I've added "on" to the hook as suggested above. --Bruce1ee 05:51, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

• ... that USS Philippines (CB-4) was scheduled to be the fourth of six Alaska-class "large cruisers" built for the United States Navy, but was canceled prior to construction? 5-6x expansion / self-nom by —Ed 17 for President _{Vote for Ed} 23:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)