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Big Events 2007-September 2008 My Badz

• Welcome to my talk page. If you just want to make a short comment why not put it in my guestbook. If you want to add something to one of the existing topics go ahead, Or click here to start a new topic. As well as archiving, I move barnstars to bling, and friendly one liners to my guestbook.

• If you leave a comment for me here, I will most likely respond to it here as an effort to keep the entire conversation in one place. Similarly, if I leave a comment on your talk page, please respond to it there. But feel free to send an alert to me on this page about a comment you have left elsewhere.

• If you are here because I named your school or employer on the talk page of your IP address, it means that I thought that some of the edits from your IP address were vandalism. If you don't think what you did was vandalism, then just ask and I'll look again at your edits. If you want me to take that message down and are willing to stop vandalising and make positive edits, then leave me a message here, read this and start making positive edits.

Your NPWatcher application

Dear WereSpielChequers,

Thank you for applying for NPWatcher! You've been approved to use it. Before you run the program, please check the changelog on the application page to see if there is a newer release (or just add the main page (here) to your watchlist). Report any bugs or feature suggestion here. If you need help, feel free to contact me or join NPWatcher.

chaser - t 03:15, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, but as I usually use a Linux PC this may not be useful to me, I don't suppose there are any plans to port this to other O/S's? (Apologies for not checking technical requirements before I asked for this) ϢereSpielChequers 16:11, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey!

Hey! Hows it going? Recent notability of DJ I.R. has been going around. His 1st and second single have been released on Amazon MP3, Napster, Lala, Emuis and bla bla. So tell me if you think this would be enough to start a new DJ I.R. article and When I Grow Up (I Wanna Be) as well. write back whenever :)! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SayWhat2100 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm good thanks. How high did those singles chart? Did he get a review in Rolling Stone or make a top 30 play list? Has DJ performed at any big festivals? Take a peek at Myleene_Klass, PJ Harvey & Janis Joplin for examples of articles that have made it. ϢereSpielChequers 07:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi inre Easter Island

Your comments about Thor Heyerdahls theories are welcome. I didn't mean to imply that I thought he was entirely reliable. On the contrary I have doubts about other things besides DNA which I understand better. I may add them to the discussion page of Easter Island at some other time. Much of what he wrote is worth considering however with caution.

Thanks Zacherystaylor (talk) 09:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

ok thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuletadechancho (talk • contribs) 20:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Shannara

Hi! I've seen you editing Shannara related articles here on Misplaced Pages, and so I would like to invite you to join the Shannara task force, an effort by Wikipedians to improve the series' coverage on this encyclopedia. Please consider signing up here and helping us out. Thank you in advance! the_ed17 13:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Bio info on KTVK

I'll try to find the sources. The Liz Habib thing was pretty notorious (my Journalism class talked about it), but the Chamberlain thing will be harder to find. Will start looking. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 02:13, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

I have found a source for the reason why Liz Habib and Kim Dillon left KTVK. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 03:11, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Good to hear you have a source, but you might want to ponder a while as to whether the information is encyclopaedic as opposed to a local news story of the time. Also if you haven't already read it Misplaced Pages:NPOV_tutorial#Accusations is worth a read. ϢereSpielChequers 17:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The reason why Liz Habib left the station might not be encyclopedic, but the reason why Kim Dillon (and on an unrelated note, Rob Koebel over at KNXV) left their stations is notable, for they left because they either violated a law (Dillon) or compromised their Journalistic Integrity (Koebel). These are serious charges. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 21:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Uh huh, I was actually thinking of WP:NOT#NEWS, particularly the bit about News reports. "Misplaced Pages considers the historical notability of persons and events." Were those charges so serious that everyone who faces them would expect that info to be permanently in Misplaced Pages? ϢereSpielChequers

Talk:Wolverine and the X-Men

Hi, thanks for the welcoming. I'm trying to contribute with Wolverine and The X-Men, but people always undo what I correct. LOL I'm not sure how this works, because I'm adding the right information, as I'm watching the series daily here in Brazil. lol If I'm doing something wrong, please tell me. I'm not even sure if is the right way to send you a message. :( But thanks a lot, WereSpielChequers! Littlemissgenius (talk) 07:33, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Yes this is certainly one right way to send me a message, and my advice was going to be to discuss the changes that seem to be controversial on Talk:Wolverine and the X-Men, but it seems you are already doing that. So firstly a question, is the version you watch in Brazil in Portuguese or in English? Secondly a couple of suggestions, if you are going to source information from a television program have look at Misplaced Pages:Citation_templates. Specifically can you get the following information?

{{cite episode | title = | episodelink = | series = | serieslink = | airdate = | season = | number = }}

Lastly if the person who is deleting your additions isn't taking part in the discussion on Talk:Wolverine and the X-Men then you could try putting a message on their talk page along the lines of "Hi, I've noticed you edit Wolverine and the X-Men, what do you think of my suggestions on Talk:Wolverine and the X-Men?"

Hope that helps ϢereSpielChequers 09:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

RfA Question

I don't know if it was originally your question or not, but I used the "do you agree with all policies..." question. If you do not want me to use it anymore please tell me. RockManQ (talk) 03:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes it's "mine" as far as Misplaced Pages is concerned, but I only brought it here from another part of my life where it is a boilerplate question for vetting candidates. I'm delighted to have someone else take this up, (especially this week where I feel my involvement in other people's RFA's should be restricted to Support as per or Oppose as per once the answer has become obvious to me). I was intending to to make this my standard question in those RFA's where the candidate potentially met my criteria, and hadn't preempted the question in their nomination. But if no-one else was paying attention to it or the answers then I'd have dropped it after a month or so as a personal hobbyhorse that wasn't contributing to the process. ϢereSpielChequers 08:46, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Vithoba

Thanks for your comments. If you have any more suggestions, please leave them on FAC discussion. All the best for your RFA. --Redtigerxyz (talk) 08:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, have amended the articles as per your comments, anything more to do? --Redtigerxyz (talk) 06:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Just stopped by

to see who you were since you commented at the RCC FAC. I was wondering what your name could possibly mean - I thought it might be something in another language but was pleased to discover its real meaning. Neat name (a bit long though)! NancyHeise 22:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nancy, my current name has many "real" meanings, I've listed a few of them on my user page. On reflection yes it is way too long; When you combine two words which have disambiguation pages with a third that has multiple dictionary meanings the possible interpretations are many. The meanings I intended are based partly on the sort of things I get up to on Misplaced Pages, with a hint of my hero Beorn, an allusion to this my new name not being my real life identity, a hint of one of my many failings (one of the meanings of Spiel being "A lengthy and extravagant speech or argument usually intended to persuade") and an allusion to some of my hobbies (chequers are a major omission from my orchard). As for my commenting on FACs, I'm conscious that it might seem a little rude when I comment but do not !vote. Recently I've started to read most FAC candidates, almost always find something that needs tweaking, and occasionally find an ambiguity that I raise as a comment, however despite rereading WP:FACR I don't yet feel qualified to judge on either criteria 1a or 1b. ϢereSpielChequers 11:49, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Joking Apart

Hi. Thanks for you comments at FAC. I was wondering if you vote on articles as well as comment on them? The JPS 08:24, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, and explanation regarding your voting (or lack of) habits. I'm glad to say that all of the contributions to the current FAC are positive. The JPS 18:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Harvey

Thanks kindly for taking the time to look over Harvey Milk at FAC. Please look at my last edit summary in the history; WP:MOS prefers no links inside quotation marks, unless there's a "good reason". There are several ways we might fix the fact that non-American readers may not know what "Wheaties" are. What's your preference? - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 00:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for pointing out that particular aspect of MOS to me, and sorry for doing a non-MOS edit whilst it was an FAC. I'm relieved that you can think of several ways to fix that as I can't, so please go ahead and use whatever one you see fit (Though I wonder what they count as a good reason because it seemed a neat solution to me). I'd never heard of wheaties so suspect they are not in the UK, which is why I thought some sort of a link would be appropriate. ϢereSpielChequers 04:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC) PS Good luck for the FAC.

Right, it's a difficult call; I'm tied up with some things now but I'll discuss this at WT:MOS soon. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 13:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, Please tell me when you raise it at wt:MOS as I may want to join that discussion. Cheers, ϢereSpielChequers 16:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

One that may be up your street

When wanting to search Hanna Schwarz's name being misspelt as Schwartz (one page hit) and wondering who else may be suject to the same problem, I typed in Scwartz by mistake. This got 11 hits. Ive resolved 8 to Schwartz and two to Schwarz and I think I know what the other should be, but the reference is to a 1972 paper only cited online by the wiki page in qustion and its clones. I'm sure you could entertain yourself for months sorting the Schwartzs from the Schwarzs, if you wanted.--Peter cohen (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Hi Peter, I think that would need someone far more into genealogy than I am. I suspect that once you go back a century or two you would find that some people used both spellings, and if there a dialect differences between say Deutsch and SwissDeutsch spellings people may have switched spellings when they moved towns. But yes a meaty project if we can find someone to take it on. ϢereSpielChequers 07:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

RE:Chin up

Will do. You'll suffer a similar problem to me, methinks; as well as simple "I disagree with your new advice" it will be "no! Old advice is fine! It should be kept until the point when it causes problems!" the Conservative Party view. I can also see a couple of "people don't read it anyway so why bother"'s coming up. I will, however, put in my two cents (0.5 pence in the current economic climate). Ironholds (talk) 14:51, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, the "they don't read it anyway so why bother brigade" hopefully won't be bothered to oppose updating it. As for those who want to keep out of date advice until it causes problems, well before I voted in your RFA I had a look at your oppose votes - and it left me thinking we have a problem with out of date advice leading to candidates on less than 2,000 edits coming forward and being snowed. I'm in a reformer rather than a revolutionary - if you have something dysfunctional sometimes the best thing is to change it bit by bit, until it has evolved into something better. Of course we could go back to some of the snowed candidates and ask them their opinions.... ϢereSpielChequers 15:30, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

My RFA

Hey there! Just a note thanking you for supporting my RFA which successfully passed with 60 supports, 0 opposes and 2 neutrals. I hope I'll be able to live up to everyone's expectations, and thank you for trusting me! All the best, Ale_Jrb 20:30, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Vithoba

I think you meant "predominantly" not "predominately". I altered the text. Cheers. Ling.Nut 00:10, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes I did, thanks for picking that up. ϢereSpielChequers 07:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

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Whats your probulem! --24.23.52.150 (talk) 22:52, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

My problem is that someone from your IP address is making edits such as this. The reason why I tracked down the company who supplied that IP address is so that any victims of abuse from that IP know where to complain to, and also so that whoever is making those edits knows that they are doing it publicly and can easily be reported to their parents or school (or if adult to the Police). I haven't restored the warning messages because you've obviously seen them, but I have restored the details about your IP address so that if there are any similar incidents in the future they can be dealt with more easily. ϢereSpielChequers 08:23, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

User:Horse86

In which paragraph(s} are the attack)s}. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 13:15, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

In the fifth paragraph the name after the sentence "ditching rejects that she hooks up with at the clubs i.e" was the bit that tipped it over the edge IMHO. I certainly wouldn't want to be named on the web that way. ϢereSpielChequers 13:30, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take it out. I don't think it's G!0 though. I think the user just thinks he's on MySpace. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 13:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Falkes de Breauté

Thanks for clearing up after me:). You and User:Choess should form a "cleaning up after Ironhold's crappy copyediting skills" team; whenever I see either of you two on my watchlist it's correcting one of my mistakes! Ironholds (talk) 21:13, 21 October 2008 (UTC).

A pleasure, it was an interesting read. just go on spelling Possession minus the second s and sooner or later I'll pop by. By the way I tried to link Baldwin de Revières, Earl of Devon, and spent a while searching the early Earls of Devon. There seems to be an anomaly between this article and that of William de Redvers, 5th Earl of Devon, is it possible that Falkes married the widow of an heir to the earldom who predeceased his father the 5th Earl? ϢereSpielChequers 21:44, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't think so; the sources I found specifically state the old earl died in 1216/17. Could be a discrepancy in the way the wife/widow's name is spelt? Ironholds (talk) 21:46, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

William de Redvers, 5th Earl of Devon puts the fifth Earls death in Sept 1217 and his son's a year earlier in Sept 1216. There is also a dispute about the numbering of the Earls, can I suggest we consult user:Pmanderson on this?

Ahh I get you; I thought you were referring to a previous Earl. Consulting a third party is probably best; Baldwin (the younger) would most likely have held a subsidiary title, so it wouldn't refer to him in texts as "Earl". Ironholds (talk) 22:03, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm a little rusty on all this; but the fundamental problem is that the numbering of the Earls will differ between sources. They weren't numbered at the time, and some genealogists count Richard de Redvers as first Earl, while others say he was never an Earl at all. The pull of vanity is to count him as Earl, since this will make the Earldom some 40 years older than the attested creation, under the Empress Matilda. What statement is in question? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:29, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Falkes de Breauté apparently married the widow of the 5th earl, named Margeret, with the earl dying in 1216/17. My source says 16, which ties in with the earl's son, Baldwin; since Baldwin died before William, however, he wouldn't have been considered an earl since no letter patent would have been issued. The problem with it being William is that his wife's name is different (although it could be the french form, I don't know). Ironholds (talk) 22:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I think in this case it may just be an anomaly re the son of the 5th Earl predeceasing his father. Falkes de Breauté has "In reward John gave de Breauté the hand of Margaret, the widow of Baldwin de Revières, Earl of Devon, who had died in 1216, and daughter of Warin Fitzgerald, the royal chamberlain, and this marriage made de Breauté ‘the equal of an earl’ as he inherited the Earldom until the heir reached his majority" Is it possible that this should say "In reward John gave de Breauté the hand of Margaret the daughter of Warin Fitzgerald, the royal chamberlain. She was the widow of Baldwin de Revières, former heir to the Earl of Devon, who had died in 1216, and since the death of the 5th Earl in 1217 her son was the 6th Earl. So this marriage made de Breauté ‘the equal of an earl’ as he was regent for the Earldom until his stepson the 6th Earl reached his majority". Would that fit in with the sources that you two used? ϢereSpielChequers 22:48, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Pretty much, although the annulment of Margaret's second marriage, on the grounds that she had been married to Falkes without her consent, should at least be mentioned. I do not see how we can know which side in a thirteenth-century dispute was lying. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

(ec)Source, please. Complete Peerage is quite certain that Falkes married Margaret (née fitz Gerold), and that she was daughter-in-law to the fifth earl; her first husband died before the age of 16, in 1216. Her son, the sixth earl was an infant when Falkes married her - as she later testified, by force.

• Courtesy title is an anachronism in 1216; Earls were the only one of the five later ranks of the peerage to exist, and it was an office (demonstrated inter permulta alia by the fact that the sixth earl was not invested with the Earldom until 1239). Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Ahh, that needs to be amended then. So, if I'm clear; she married Baldwin, with whom she had a son. His death and the subsequent death of William left the earldom temporarily in the hands of Margaret. When de Breauté married her, her son became his ward, making him "equal to an earl" due to the lands and power he now held until the child reached his majority. Ironholds (talk) 00:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

That's pretty much what Cokayne says, yes. Please note also that he was granted Plympton by the Crown after his father-in-law's death; but then Crown transfers of land and Earldoms were not uncommon then. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:26, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

OK I've tweaked both articles as per this discussion. ϢereSpielChequers 21:10, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Don't

Do NOT ever touch my Userpage again. You have no right to change it, as I have the right to post what I please on my page. You DO NOT have the right to edit anything on it except this page on my user page. Cbreseman (talk) 01:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

If you think that you have the right to post anything on your user page then I suggest you read wp:userpage#What may I not have on my user page? I don't remember specifically what was on your user page, but whatever it was it breached our policy wp:no personal attacks sufficiently for me to nominate it for speedy deletion and an admin to agree with my suggestion and delete your page. So whatever you had on your user page didn't comply with two people's understanding of our policies. If you think that it did comply with our policies and we were both mistaken in applying wp:userpage#What to do if you find someone else's user page being used inappropriately then an admin can restore it for you, or explain specifically how it breached our policies. ϢereSpielChequers 07:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Eat my shit and die, dick licker (nominate that for speedy deletion ass wad) Cbreseman (talk) 11:35, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

You god damn ass snatch Cbreseman (talk) 11:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

OK these edits and your vandalism of my user page are all the reminder I need as to why I nommed your user page for deletion. If you continue on your current path then yes a few more edits like this and that, will get you blocked. If that happens and you make good on your threat here then I might as well point out now that IP addresses are tracable. So whether you edit from school, home or work if you vandalise my pages from an IP address your ISP will get a complaint. From your spelling and homophobia I'm guessing you are from the USA, if so then you should know that tracing an IP address is as easy as this.

But all that doesn't need to happen, provided you agree to stop vandalising and start doing something useful here instead. Oh and please install a spellchecker, I'm sufficiently confident and settled in my sexuality not to be upset by being called a faggot or dick licker by a stranger on the web, but typos like vandalizism do bug me a little. So please lighten up, leave your homophobia behind when you log on to Misplaced Pages and do something useful. ϢereSpielChequers 15:18, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Go fuk your mom you fukin faggot. I'll commit vandalizim on your page all fukin day long, and you'll like it you fuking quer.

Oh... and trace my IP. It'll come back to a wireless network shared by a lot of peple. Good luck wid dat you quer fuking homo. You got damn dog rapist.

Help

Thanks for your prompt reply. I'm having big problems editing certain articles in that attempted edits take so long that I'm timed out (Error Message 500 appears). This is frustrating as it's happening with articles to which I've made major contributions and/or created, in particular the following: Paisley, James Black (bishop) and Philip Tartaglia. Any help would be much appreciated. (Ulysses54 (talk) 12:31, 27 October 2008 (UTC))

Is this just a problem you have with Misplaced Pages articles or generally with other Internet things? I find I have to reboot my PC occasionally simply to clear out the memory of various Misplaced Pages pages that I've been editing - so rebooting your PC might fix this. Paisley is a fairly large article at 31k so if you are on a slow line you will find it takes time to open and save Philip Tartaglia should be quicker. ϢereSpielChequers 12:42, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Seems to be just on Misplaced Pages that there's a problem - and only with certain articles or sections of articles eg Paisley. I tried rebooting but to no avail. I'm still unable to edit on those articles I mentioned above. (Ulysses54 (talk) 15:10, 27 October 2008 (UTC))

I've just made a small edit to James Black (bishop) with no problem. So I'm not sure what is going on, what was the change you were trying to make, did it involve large photos? ϢereSpielChequers 15:18, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried clearing your browser cache? Editing with a different browser? Resetting your router? If not, I'd suggest trying it :P. Ale_Jrb 17:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Uhh

I really dont have anything to say in that RfA thingy... Nor do i know a Palestine better than you stuff. Im just a 13 year old boy, I just joined wikipedia to help it in ways i can. Sorry man. II MusLiM HyBRiD II 22:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that was a good point on the RFA thing, and I've tracked down a Palestinian for my other query. ϢereSpielChequers 08:51, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

ME-articles

You are quite right, I mean Middle-East (Israel/Palestine) articles, and I have clarified that now. I have perhaps been editing too much in the area, since I start taking such "internal" shortenings for granted (so no, you are *not* dim for not understanding ;-) ) Regards, Huldra (talk) 18:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. If you ever fancy a break from there I seem to have accidentally adopted List of demons, which regularly has vandalism, but I don't have the religious background to trawl through and cull any non-demons that had slipped in before I took over. ϢereSpielChequers 17:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA

Hi WereSpielChequers! Thank you very much for your support in my RfA, which passed yesterday. I hope not to let you and the others down, and use the tools for the benefit of the project. Cheers, Ynhockey 22:50, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, congrats and good luck. ϢereSpielChequers 22:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Re: Possible attack...

Thanks! I tagged it for speedy deletion. It'll be the kids from school messing about - thanks for pointing it out! Dendodge Talk 14:20, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Thought so, I'm getting quite a haul of long overlooked vandalisms and attack pages with that search:) ϢereSpielChequers 14:23, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Hi, and thanks for supporting my successful request for adminship. It was nice to see all the kind comments I got from my supporters and I hope that I will be more useful to the community now that I have the tools again.--Berig (talk) 15:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Abortion

The problem is that "ending a pregnancy" is doublespeak that comes from the pro-choice camp. Its deliberately obfuscative, when the actual action isn't in fact terminating a condition in the mother, but is rather terminating a condition in the fetus. -Zahd (talk) 21:18, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Attack?

What makes you sure that This is an attack page? It does not look like one to me. Theresa Knott | token threats 19:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I've clearly been trawling through too many homophobic attacks. My miscall - I've left an apology on his talk page. ϢereSpielChequers 19:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I figured as much. I've been going through your list of contributions and deleting all the others you tagged. Theresa Knott | token threats 20:08, 2 November 2008 (UTC)