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| As I've been reprimanded for this before I'll just make note to you that Wikilink's should not be duplicated within an article as you did with the 1969 NFL Draft article / table / list. I have since repaired the edit/s. Please only wikilink first instance or first instance of importance. Happy editing ] ] ] 01:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :: Regarding the expansion draft pages, put them on your watch list. I hit those a few days ago, or at least formated your tables for you. Not knowing the format your going for or how much data you wish to include I did not want to go too much further. ] ] ] 21:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::: I thought that I had all of them watched, but evidently I didn't. Great start on the 1961 table. The one that is by far the most complete is the ] article, it is currently ]. I guess if I had a format, that would be my model? Although I am open to anything that is uniform across all the draft pages and gets them feature list status eventually. I love football season... :) --]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 01:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::You should reduce the use of abreviations in the 2002 article, likewise you should set the table widths to 100%. I wont edit 2002 if it's under review but I did do some additional editing to the 1961 vikings article. Also I (personaly) think the alternating colors in the table headings are a bit to much you really should use 1 color for text the other for background like you did in the 61 expansion / vikings page ... just my 2 cents ] ] ] 01:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::The table was at 100%, but a FLC reviewer suggested otherwise. If you ], that would help me get a consensus as to how to set the table. I tried a similar color scheme to what was on the Vikings page, but red on dark blue was too hard to read, whereas yellow on purple looked great. On the ] and ] pages, I used the colors of the two teams that were on the draft.--]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 03:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| 2002 NFL Expansion.... OK so I edited the Original NFL Team col... Couldn't resist ... to many duplicate wikilinks, speaking of which the position column has the same problem. I looked over the review comments and I must say the comments regarding Natural table placement and white space are misleading. In the tables present form the white space is enormous. But then I' have a 21" wide screen display. Did you look at my changes to the 61 expansion? I think the format of the cells was appropriate personally but I've never been considered an authority on consensus. I'm going to resist posting comments on the review for now but I do recommend you reduce the position duplicate links and remove the abbreviations within the table. ] ] ] 17:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| == ] Heisman notes == | |||
| Just as a point of reference, thought I would point out that you can not use wikipedia as a reference. And your link doesn't format correctly to boot. I suggest you use cite web as in other draft lists as a ref with appropriate link supporting the ref. I'm also curious if you're adding the image for all Heisman winners or just selectivly? ] ] ] 18:23, 11 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| **Thanks, those are much better. I would like to add it to all of the draft pages, it just takes time, I have been working backwards. I would like to add a notation for other major trophies: Outland, Lombardi, Butkus, etc., but not all have official icons that can be used.--]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 23:13, 11 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ***I thought I had cited Heisman through the entire series back in august, however it appears I had stopped at 1985. Heisman is done as of today, and I've used your image format as well through the entire modern era although I reduced the image size to 16px so it would keep the tables more consistant. As for the other awards GO FOR IT and include citation! It's a lot of work I know, but worth it. It's taken me months to finish the Hall of famers and I bet I missed more than a few but I do this for the Old timers, pre salary cap, pre premadonna, pre Movie star, the real players and heros who never got the recognition they deserved. Happy editing ] ] ] 01:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ****Wow, that's awesome. You work fast! Tonight so far I've been working on adding a Notable undrafted players section to the drafts that don't have them, and revamping those that do to a table format that mirrors the other draft rounds. That way, we can see who were undrafted pro bowl and HOF players. Freaking San Diego got three undrafted Pro Bowlers in ], (the year my beloved Cowboys got Romo) no wonder they aren't too bad right now!--]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 02:03, 12 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == All-Pro == | == All-Pro == | ||
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| I am currently doing it--] 23:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC) | I am currently doing it--] 23:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
| ==John Linehan (basketball) Speedy Deletion== | == John Linehan (basketball) Speedy Deletion == | ||
| No problem mate, very sorry about the quick delete. I see so many kid athletes that "not in NBA" has my finger over the trigger faster than it should. Happy editing to you. :) -<b>''' ]'''</font><b>]</font></b> 06:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC) | No problem mate, very sorry about the quick delete. I see so many kid athletes that "not in NBA" has my finger over the trigger faster than it should. Happy editing to you. :) -<b>''' ]'''</font><b>]</font></b> 06:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| The Main Page Redesign proposal is ] to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the ]. The poll closes on October 31st. Your input would be hugely appreciated! Many thanks, ]<sup>]</sup> 10:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC) | The Main Page Redesign proposal is ] to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the ]. The poll closes on October 31st. Your input would be hugely appreciated! Many thanks, ]<sup>]</sup> 10:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC) | ||
| ==Re: Season links== | == Re: Season links == | ||
| Talk to ], who does most of the infobox work. ] ]/] 01:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC) | Talk to ], who does most of the infobox work. ] ]/] 01:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| I would be interested in your opinion on this discussion: ] | I would be interested in your opinion on this discussion: ] | ||
| ==RE: NFL Year template == | == RE: NFL Year template == | ||
| Uhh...none of the player infoboxes need any year links. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">''']]'''<sub>]]</sub></font> 06:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC) | Uhh...none of the player infoboxes need any year links. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">''']]'''<sub>]]</sub></font> 06:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
| :Sorry for my false comment. I don't have time for doing these minor edits because of school and such. Just leave a message on ] and I'm sure someone will do it. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">''']]'''<sub>]]</sub></font> 06:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC) | :Sorry for my false comment. I don't have time for doing these minor edits because of school and such. Just leave a message on ] and I'm sure someone will do it. -- <font face="Chiller" size="3">''']]'''<sub>]]</sub></font> 06:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
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All-Pro
Look man, just because you have come into the discussion doesnt mean all the sudden the All-Pros become changed, prior discussions have agreed that it should be how it is, not the way you think, to say that people agreed overwhelmingly to seprate them is delusional and ridiculous, so dont just start changing them because you think they should be like this.--Yankees10 22:24, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Also NFL.com is the link that has agreed to been used, so stop adding pro football reference.--Yankees10 22:25, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- I'll have to find it, dont start adding it or seperating the All-Pros again and I wont revert your edits until we get this solved--Yankees10 22:31, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- heres the agreement on NFL.com:Template talk:Infobox NFLactive#New NFL.com - to use for stats?--Yankees10 22:34, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
- By the way I dont find any place where it says that people agree with seperating the All-Pros--Yankees10 22:37, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Another thing is your not even consistant with how you are displaying it--Yankees10 22:39, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok, but where did you find these because a lot of these are proably sockpuppets of 72.0.36.36--Yankees10 22:55, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
Ok when you seperate them can you at least make them consistant with each other like I did with the Joe Montana and Michael Irvin--Yankees10 23:20, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I just have one more request, can you put a - between First Team, so it looks like this: First-Team--Yankees10 23:35, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
I am currently doing it--Yankees10 23:42, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
John Linehan (basketball) Speedy Deletion
No problem mate, very sorry about the quick delete. I see so many kid athletes that "not in NBA" has my finger over the trigger faster than it should. Happy editing to you. :) - FlyingToaster 06:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for the barnstar!--Yankees10 13:47, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
1995 NFL Expansion Draft
I think your interpretation of the MOS is off key here, This table is seriously over linked. The MOS regarding wikilinks in tables might apply if there were multiple tables on the page and the rest of the draft series followed suit. The entire draft series has been edited as first instance only (as required by good article standards not list/tables) and consistency is an important part of the NFL wiki project. Also the use of abbreviations needs to be eliminated just as it has been on the regular draft pages. Remember this is an encyclopedia and people other than sports statisticians read it. As always happy editing Slysplace 02:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Links
Why did you remove all of these links on articles?--Yankees10 00:44, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- I think you went overboard though, I can see removing links that were near others that were already linked, but some of them were way far apart, also you were removing the links to the birthdate in the infobox, which I dont think should be done, I do agree though with you removing the double All-Pro links.--Yankees10 22:25, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
- His problem is he's using AWB, and that doesn't take into consideration that double links can (and often should) be present in an article due to length and space in between them. ►Chris Nelson 05:28, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Ummm, I already discussed this over on Yankee's10's page, agreed that I had made some mistakes, apologized, and went back through the articles and undid some of the removals. But since you also for some reason seem to need an explanation, let me repeat what I said there:
Sorry, new toy. I'll go back through those articles and put back the infobox links to birthplaces and birthdates. But the way the MoS reads, if a term had already been linked in an article, that's all it gets. For example, Barry Sanders has Detroit Lions linked 3-4 times, so I'll bring it down to the first one. I removed the extra links due to this from Maual of Style for one of two reasons.
1. Some were general links to months, days, or years: "An article may be overlinked if any of the following is true: Low added-value items are linked without reason—such as 1995, 1980s, and 20th century." I also took advice from this directive, "Stand-alone chronological links should generally not be linked, unless they are demonstrably likely to deepen readers' understanding of a topic" to remove general links to dates such as 15 August etc.
2. "An article may be overlinked if any of the following is true:"A link for any single term is excessively repeated in the same article. "Excessive" typically means more than once for the same term in an article. So I removed multiple instances of links.
Number 2 doesn't make any exception for length between the excessive links. And Yankees10 seemed to be okay with my explanation and apology. I hope you are satisfied now too.--User:2008Olympianchitchat 05:41, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- I've been looking for the discussion where the consensus has been established, but it was obviously a long time ago. So far, I've just found a discussion from summer 2007 mentioning the consensus. Trust me, this infobox was my idea and I've followed it from Day 1. There is a consensus, and you need to stop making edits against it until it is found.►Chris Nelson 07:07, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Well as I've said, the two infoboxes were conceived by two different people. No, I've not found the discussion, but I do know that everyone who was around at the time knows what the consensus was (to not link them), which is why we all edit it that way (including an admin). As I am sure that there was a consensus against your style of edit at some point, will you avoid making any more of your edits before we have a poll on the NFL talk page? That way, if the same consensus is reached there is nothing we have to undo. If the consensus is in your favor, I'll drop it and we'll change the infobox standard.►Chris Nelson 14:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
- Do you think you and I could discuss each change you'd like to make to the infobox and try to reach a compromise?►Chris Nelson 22:57, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, just wanted to let you know that I haven't forgotten about your post on my talk page. I've had a busy week, I'll reply within the next day though.►Chris Nelson 11:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
- Finally replied on my talk, sorry for the wait.►Chris Nelson 14:19, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Main Page redesign
The Main Page Redesign proposal is currently conducting a straw poll to select five new designs, before an RFC in which one will be proposed to replace the Main Page. The poll closes on October 31st. Your input would be hugely appreciated! Many thanks, Pretzels 10:29, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
Re: Season links
Talk to User:Chrisjnelson, who does most of the infobox work. Pats1 /C 01:04, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
Definition of AA
I would be interested in your opinion on this discussion: Talk:Alcoholics Anonymous#Recovery vs. recovered
RE: NFL Year template
Uhh...none of the player infoboxes need any year links. -- SRE.K.Annoyomous.L.24 06:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for my false comment. I don't have time for doing these minor edits because of school and such. Just leave a message on WT:NFL and I'm sure someone will do it. -- SRE.K.A
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