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Somebody posting propaganda and out of context

Somebody has used the controversy section to peddle tired old propaganda which has been refuted many times. The following statement is false and out of context

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Gowalkar was not referring to Nazi "race pride" but referring to the German experience of lack of assimilation of ethno-religious entities into each other. The editor has souught to create guilt by association because:

1) Nazi genocide of Jews was NOT known to Gowalkar and was only discovered after Allied forces had entered Germany in 1940s. Note: The above statement posted out of context was made in 1930s when Nazi concentration camps were not even known to British and Americans. There is no way Gowalkar could be associated with the kind of "Nazi race pride" that led to the genocide of Jews. The editor here has simply exploited the popular ignorance to post propaganda.

2) The Hindu following of VHP is mostly unaware of Gowalkar's commentary and do not associate VHP with him. Even Gowalkar's comments made in 1930s are taken out of context to demonize RSS and VHP, and any Hindu organization involved in social work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Satyashodak (talk • contribs) 15:51, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Career

The rediff.com article provides a quotation from an unidentified jury member. This quotation is out of context and does not belong to career section.

Removed BLP violating content

WP:BLP violating content is not allowed on any page of Misplaced Pages. I have removed it from here, too. Whoever adds poorly sourced info about a living person may be be blocked. Jehochman 19:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay. Zuppeandsalad (talk) 04:27, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Controversy section

Keep propaganda and unrelated material out of it. Only facts. And don't remove this section by labeling the groups who have concerns, and then dismissing them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Proudbharati (talk • contribs) 03:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Counterpunch is not at all a reliable source. Whoever keeps adding that propaganda site will be blocked. The Times of India does not look particularly reliable, so I have removed it, but I am open to discussing that. Suggest the matter be opened at the reliable sources noticeboard if somebody wants to use that source. Thank you. Let's work methodically and get this right. Due to the frequent attacks on this article, I will be providing strict enforcement of biography of living persons policy. Jehochman 03:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Timesofindia is probably one of the most reliable from India. Counterpunch sounds dubious. Docku: What up? 03:40, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Times of India is one of the leading (and oldest) newspapers in India. M an as at yahoo.com (talk) 08:37, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the TOI source is reliable, at least in this instance where there is a lot of coverage about her alleged associations with the VHP (, , , and many others) but the text, as written (and now deleted) reads as if this association is certain (the word 'despite' is particularly inappropriate). Ms. Shah has denied these allegations in a press release by the Obama campaign and the 'guilt by association' charge seems plausible enough that the text in the article should be clearer that the controversy is around the allegations and not around a possible membership of the rightist organizations. Something like "There were allegations in the Indian press that Ms. Shah had connections with rightist Hindu groups, however, Ms. Shah and the Obama transition team categorically denied these allegations." Whatever the actual text, the existence of this controversy is well documented and is present in the public domain and should be included in the article. --Regents Park (bail out your boat) 14:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

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