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| When this is unprotected... Those are Mark Thatcher's personal arms, not "the arms of the baronetcy", whatever that could mean. Arms belong to people, not titles. ] 02:39, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC) | When this is unprotected... Those are Mark Thatcher's personal arms, not "the arms of the baronetcy", whatever that could mean. Arms belong to people, not titles. ] 02:39, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC) | ||
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| == Considerable pressure == | |||
| "Its creation was reportedly recommended to the Queen by Prime Minister John Major under ''considerable pressure'' from the recently retired Margaret Thatcher, who wanted her child to inherit a title." - - What is the evidence for this ''considerable pressure''? | |||
Revision as of 10:53, 12 October 2005
A few things I discovered in browsing the web but don't have time to add just now...
- In 1982, Thatcher caused a minor stir in the press when he got lost during a desert automobile race and went missing for 6 days.
- There is another prominent Mark Thatcher, inventor of the Teva Sandal.
- And yet another Mark Thatcher is a professor at the London School of Economics.
- I added the stuff about Mark Thatcher getting lost on the Paris Dakar Rally some time ago. We didn't have a MT page then, I'll copy it now Mintguy (T)
He was declared missing on 12 January according to the BBC , where does the 9 January date come from? Mintguy (T)
How can he be 2nd Baronet when his mother's not dead yet? -- The Anome 10:14, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Oh, I see now, he inherited it from his father; it's a special-case heriditary Baronetcy. -- The Anome 10:17, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- That's right, his father was 1st Baronet. It isn't really "special-case", then, unless you mean that it is likely that Denis Thatcher's baronetcy was created essentially in honor of Margaret's achievements. That seems likely to be the case, but I would imagine that the Letters Patent on this thing are pretty standard. Look it me, I'm suddenly an Anglophile! Jimbo Wales 14:49, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Baroness has NOTHING to do with Baronetcy. A life peer is necessarily a Baron, although they are addressed as "Lord A, Baron of X" and never "Baron X". The female version is Lady, although females life peers in their own right, by recent tradition, go by the title of Baroness to distinguish themselves from being merely the wife of a Baron. In contrast a Baronet is not a peer, noble or whatever you want to call it. It is a heriditary and senior version of a Knighthood. Dainamo 00:23, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- That's right, his father was 1st Baronet. It isn't really "special-case", then, unless you mean that it is likely that Denis Thatcher's baronetcy was created essentially in honor of Margaret's achievements. That seems likely to be the case, but I would imagine that the Letters Patent on this thing are pretty standard. Look it me, I'm suddenly an Anglophile! Jimbo Wales 14:49, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Did you know that you can sing "Al Yamamah" to the tune of Mahnamahna? -- The Anome 15:00, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Is Mark Thatcher's title "Sir" due to his inherited Baronetcy, or was he awarded a Knighthood for something or other? GWO
- It's because of the Baronetcy. -- The Anome 12:15, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Page protection
This page is temporarily protected because of repeated vandalism. Theresa Knott (Hot net streak!) 15:00, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Some of the IPs resolve to:
- 82-42-56-109.cable.ubr06.knor.blueyonder.co.uk
- host81-157-26-221.range81-157.btcentralplus.com
- host81-130-182-4.in-addr.btopenworld.com
- manc-cache-3.server.ntli.net
- host81-137-171-179.in-addr.btopenworld.com
-- The Anome 15:31, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Does this page still need protection? I would like to add a link to the Simon Mann article I've just written. Mintguy (T)
Arms
When this is unprotected... Those are Mark Thatcher's personal arms, not "the arms of the baronetcy", whatever that could mean. Arms belong to people, not titles. Marnanel 02:39, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Considerable pressure
"Its creation was reportedly recommended to the Queen by Prime Minister John Major under considerable pressure from the recently retired Margaret Thatcher, who wanted her child to inherit a title." - - What is the evidence for this considerable pressure?