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God or god

Hi, Ilkali! I hope this finds you well.
I'm writing because I've noticed that you've been changing the word God to god in articles, such as in this edit: . I'm not entirely sure if this conforms to the manual of style, but I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. Feel free to reply to here or on my talk page. L'Aquatique 20:03, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi L'Aquatique. There are (roughly) two words in English pronounced as /gɒd/. One is the proper noun God, which references the subject of the article God, and the other is the common noun god, which denotes all deities. In a sentence like God is a god, the first noun is the proper noun and the latter is the common. The MoS says that the former should be capitalised and the latter shouldn't, but people tend not to grasp the distinction and instead capitalise all instances of either word. I decapitalise the common nouns per the MoS. Ilkali (talk) 20:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, seems straightforward enough to me. Thanks for your time, have an awesome weekend! L'Aquatique 04:36, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Criticism of Christianity

Don't let my zealous nature scare you away; discuss with me anything that does not seem neutral to you. Gabr-el 21:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Alastair Haines

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Editors Alastair Haines, L'Aquatique LisaLiel and Ilkali are subject to editing restrictions for one year: a limitation to one revert per page per week and a general parole against disruptive editing. Alastair Haines is further placed on civility parole for that period.

— Coren , for the Arbitration Committee, 21:08, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I had erroneously substituted LisaLiel's username with L'aquatique's in the message above. — Coren  01:20, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Reverts

Hi, I don't know if you're familiar with WP:3RR rule but please stop reverts in Atheism, you provided no reference to wikipedia rules or reliable sources to support them. Using talk page would more conform to wikipedia rules. --windyhead (talk) 16:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Your edits worsen the article. I've reverted two distinct changes and am nowhere near in danger of violating 3RR, either in word or in spirit. You should argue for these changes on the talk page after they have met resistance rather than assuming they should be incorporated by default. Ilkali (talk) 17:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

You have, however, violated the 1RR restriction the Arbitration Committee has placed you under. You are allowed exactly one revert per page, per week. I am not going to enforce the restriction this time because I suppose you had not understood the limitation; but you should consider yourself warned. — Coren  18:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I thought that was regarding any single content issue, since the alternative is just plain stupid. I'm supposed to mentally track whether and when I've reverted for every item on my watchlist? Given that most of my activity on Misplaced Pages revolves around maintaining rather than creating, they might as well have just banned me. Ilkali (talk) 20:07, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

The easiest way to avoid tripping up against the restriction is to avoid reverting other editors' changes altogether. If you see someone doing an edit you feel is problematic, bring it up to the talk page. If the edit is really egregious, I'm sure some other editor will be willing to do the edit; or you might simply work it out with the original editor with whom you had disagreed. — Coren  20:18, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

This sanction serves no purpose. The fact that a person can just about contribute while it is in effect is irrelevant if it takes away all interest in doing so. Ilkali (talk) 22:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, "Your edits worsen the article" is disputable and depends on what POV you have. In fact you add false claims with your revert  : source does say different. --windyhead (talk) 09:01, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

You're wrong, but it's not my problem anymore. I'm withdrawing from the issue. Ilkali (talk) 10:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Gender of God

What you are doing at Gender of God is edit warring- stop now. Per the arbitration ruling I could block both of you right now, but I'm a nice person, I'm giving you a chance to stop. Consider yourself warned. L'Aquatique 08:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

"Per the arbitration ruling I could block both of you right now". On what ground? "Ilkali is limited to one revert per page per week (excepting obvious vandalism), and is required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page". I've reverted once and I've discussed the reversion on the talk page. Ilkali (talk) 13:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

You reverted once, true. But it is exactly the same material everyone has edit warred over in the past. If history is any indicator you would have continued. Thus, my warning. L'Aquatique 19:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The warning is understandable (though unnecessary). What I object to is your claim "I could block both of you right now". Ilkali (talk) 19:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Request to amend case

I have initiated a request to amend the Alastair case, hoping to introduce some new measures which will prevent further flare ups. --John Vandenberg 01:23, 23 November 2008 (UTC)