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Malik Ric

A few weeks ago, someone removed mention of Richard I of England becoming a "bogeyman" from that article because it "didn't have a citation", despite an inline mention of William of Tyre (). If you have time, maybe you could re-insert with a quote from William or something? The original doesn't mention the Arabicization of his name. Choess (talk) 01:52, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look. (I tried Malik/Melic and Ric/Rik as well without finding anything useful in Google Books.) As long as I am loading you with suggestions, bailli could stand serious improvement. If I understand the term correctly, it's a bit like the English "lieutenant" in that it could describe anything from a castellan to a viceroy, but I have no idea how I'd prove or source that. Something else to think about in your no doubt copious free time. All the best, Choess (talk) 03:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

Cleaning up after another mover, who moved Roman Catholic Archdiocese of St. Louis -> Archdiocese of St. Louis. Could you help me clean up after his mess by merging all 3 existing pages to Roman Catholic Archdiocese of St. Louis? Thanks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:MovePage/Archdiocese_of_Saint_Louis Benkenobi18 (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

One more. Can you please help me move List of Roman Catholic archbishops of Tours -> Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Tours? Benkenobi18 (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to burden you again. Need to move Archbishop of Reims -> Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Reims. Thanks so much. Benkenobi18 (talk) 09:00, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Help

Hi, I noticed you were an admin, and I was just wondering if you could put a short semi-protect on this users talk page User talk:NawlinWiki It is currently being vandalized by IP's every couple minutes. A block would be pointless, because somehow the IP changes ranges each time. Thanks, Landon1980 (talk) 05:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Holy See of Cilicia

Hi, Adam. Do you have an opinion about whether Holy See of Cilicia or Catholicossate of the Great House of Cilicia is the the better name? I am not myself sure what to think but felt that you might know. Thanks, Aramgar (talk) 02:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Latin Misplaced Pages

Hi Adam, could you change my account name on the Latin Misplaced Pages (Mateusz Lemôlálô → Teysz Kamieński). Greetings from the Netherlands, Mateusz of Lemoland (talk) 14:36, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I still want to change it. Teysz Kamieński (talk) 15:57, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adam, today we had two not-so-nice usernames registered (the ones that contain the word “stretched”). Could you please rename these accounts, e. g. to “Renamed vandal 2” and “Renamed vandal 3”? Thanks in advance, --la:Usor:UV 13:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adam, could you please grant bot status to la:Usor:BotSottile, la:Usor:Ginosbot, la:Usor:LaaknorBot, and la:Usor:SpBot? These bots seem to be doing good work. Thanks in advance! --la:Usor:UV 14:01, 17 August 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by UV (talk • contribs)

Thank you! --UV (talk) 21:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adam, could you please change my account name on the Latin WP la:Usor:Vulpinus to la:Usor:Alopex. Thx. 80.143.1.53 (talk) 09:39, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adam, you accidentally renamed this user to la:Usor:Alopex. (with a dot at the end of the username) instead of la:Usor:Alopex (without dot). Could you please rename this user again in order to remove the dot? Otherwise, this user will not be able to use his SUL account, because a SUL account is not possible when the usernames are different.

(There currently is an an old account la:Usor:Alopex but this account has no edits at all. It may therefore be necessary first to rename "Alopex" to "Alopex-old" or something similar and then "Alopex." to "Alopex".)

Thank you! --UV (talk) 21:33, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adam, recently we again had a not-so-nice username registered (again containing the word “stretched”). Could you please rename this account as well, e. g. to “Renamedvandal3”? Thanks in advance, --la:Usor:UV 22:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adam, today our username vandal struck again: . Please rename this user, e. g. to “Renamedvandal4”. Thanks in advance, --la:Usor:UV 19:45, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adam, could you please grant bot status to la:Usor:StigBot and la:Usor:Ptbotgourou? They seem to work ok, and they fill up our recentchanges list. Thanks in advance! --la:Usor:UV 21:45, 16 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by UV (talk • contribs)

Saunders Secondary School

Can you please explain the reasons for reverting User:99.248.178.65 without an edit-summary on that article, not communicating with them, and blocking them, without warning, for a week? I'm tempted to unblock, as we have received a complaint on the unblock-en-l mailing list. Maxim_(talk) 23:59, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Battle of Vimy Ridge

Battle of Vimy Ridge is currently under peer review in an effort to get it to A or FA quality. The article has greatly improved over the pas few months but still needs work. I am sending out a notice to individuals who have contributed on the talk page to help with a copy-edit. Fresh eyes are always helpful. All the best. Labattblueboy (talk) 14:56, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

balkanian name issue

I think we should finally find a solution about the name issue in the balkanian towns. In every albanian town there is a greek name. I think we should live the names in the towns, cities and regions were there is a minority other then the main ethnic population and not in every town. For example, why should there be a name in Greek in Vlora page, where the entire population is albanian. It was found by Greeks, like New York was founded by Dutch. What`s the point? And secondly, it was founded by ancient greeks, why should we put modern greek in first paragraph? What do you think? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arditbido (talk • contribs) 13:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Guy de Lusignan

Come on Adam, I was surprised by your edit. It's clearly Guy de Lusignan. Even the English statue in Damascus uses the "de". Only 900 v. 700 on google books admittedly, but it's more when it only includes the name as a surname. How will anyone know it's a hereditary name if you use "of"? Even English earls keep their "de" untranslated. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 12:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Adam, sorry, I didn't mean to make you feel like you had to write out a whole list. Just searching google books (900-odd for de v. 700-odd for "of") or scholar fulfills the same purpose without a fraction of the effort. It's pretty much an aesthetic thing, not the kind of issue scholars would form consensi about. It seems to me mad that (de being virtually an English word) all the English (not to mention Irish and Scottish) settled French guys would keep their "de" untranslated, but Guy de Lusignan, Reinald de Châtillon, et al., get "of". Check his interwikis too, en.wiki is one of the few translating it. These names, call them surnames or not, are part of French aristocratic culture and the effect is lost if you make them look like, I dunno, Guy of Cyrpus or Augustine of Canterbury, not to mention made-up wiki ones like Radulf of Brechin. And of course, in wiki naming culture, there is a difference between Hugh of France (French king) and Hugh de France (prince of French royal house). Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 03:58, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Problems could certainly be avoided by using de. ;) I don't think wiki has any written guideline/policy regarding sub-comital rulers, the sires and lords. Counts and Dukes are supposed to be "NAME, Count of X", but I don't think that'd work. The French ones are in anarchy anyways. Regards, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 05:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

3RR broken by user

Please see the edit war that is started in Igoumenitsa page. User:Zakronian has violated WP:NCGN. Please do something. balkanian (talk) 14:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Also in Margariti, Parga, Parapotamos, etc.balkanian (talk) 14:22, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Please Help

Hi Adam, you don't know me but I found your name on the admin list. I've just created my user page. I uploaded a private photo of myself onto the page. It was flagged for speedy deletion because I'd not put the proper copyright tag on. I have found the right one and added it, but the caption in the photo still says that it's up for speedy deletion. I've removed the speedy delete box and everything. Can you check it out and get my old caption put back? The image is image:Declan_Davis.jpg. Cheers Declan Davis (talk) 22:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

I think I've fixed it. I just undid everything and it all went away. I haven't broken any Misplaced Pages laws but undoing it have I? I don't know if it was a real person that did it, or if it was an automatic process. Declan Davis (talk) 22:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Greek Stuff

I don't have any problem against greeks, but since they are deforming the reality against albanians and Romans, I cannot just stay and watch.Emperordarius (talk) 08:09, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Nominations for the Military history WikiProject coordinator election

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I am Mario

Hi Adam. If you didn't notice User:PaxEquilibrium was very profilic sock puppet master. He was also an "owner of DAI" - this source was important to him for building POV in other related articles. An anon contributing (you asked in the talk page: are you Mario?) to DAI article could be User:I am Mario - sock of Pax. Pax did distinguish himself from this anon , in the same way as he did it elsewhere too, like here , as you can see he criticized his own sock edits. While his socks were wild and extreme POV pushers, Pax as master had image of an objective contributor. I've reported my suspect to admin User:Thatcher . Just to inform you. Zenanarh (talk) 08:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Violations of ODB onomatology

Hi Adam. I saw your comments on the talk page of Alexios I Komnenos and I would like to request that you revert the arbitrary changes made by Deipnosophista to these pages without the courtesy of a discussion especially after the long and bitter history of this Byzantine onomatology saga. If arbitrary changes can be implemented by stealth this can seriously harm the ethical standards which should govern the wiki. You were a frequent and welcome participant in the old discussions. You know intimately the whole controversy and the potential it has to reopen unproductive and protracted disputes. Please do not allow this unjustified reversal to stand. Thank you. Tasos (Dr.K. (talk) 04:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC))

Thank you Adam for your message. I really appreciate it. There are some other supplementary articles left such as Alexius V Ducas, Alexius II Comnenus, Heraclius etc. but since I already told Yannis to do them I'll wait for him to take them up. By tomorrow I expect a resolution to this. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 01:55, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

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Reverting my moves

You reverted two of my moves today: Joscius and Frederick (Archbishop of Tyre). I had moved these pages in accordance with the general naming conventions and with Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (Clergy). In general, put pages at the simplest title (for people, their name: this is what I did with Joscius). If a name is not sufficient (as obviously is the case with Frederick), the guideline explicitly states "use the form Thomas de Rossy (Bishop of the Isles) rather than Thomas de Rossy, Bishop of the Isles". Any reason why you reverted me, thereby going from a name in line with the guideline back towards a name contrary to the guideline? Fram (talk) 12:23, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

First Crusade

Hi, Adam. I was approached by MILHIST to work on First Crusade, which is listed for 0.7 inclusion, but lacks the inline cites generally required of FAs these days. My knowledge of the Middle Ages is not as profound as Wandastouring generously claims, and the Crusades are not my area (and I have none of the referenced books). However, I know from the ref desk that they are yours; moreover, I find from the article history that you were the original FA nominator, so you're likely to have an interest, as well as access to sources. The deadline is 20 October, so any help appreciated! Thanks, Gwinva (talk) 01:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Gwinva (talk) 09:10, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

Roman Caps

I have left this message on Jossi's talk page. Malcolm Schosha (talk) 12:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Request for help

I kindly ask your assistance for the renaming of "dodo" account to something else (anything) on latin wikipedia. This in order to process the request on meta. All your help is appreciated. Thank you. -- m:drini 19:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

test

test to see if wikipedia.tv (thats the website im using) is a functional site blah blah blah if it isnt mahybe you wont get this message —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.175.127.114 (talk) 03:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Turkish Roman Catholic saints

How can I remove the category Turkish Roman Catholic saints renaming this category to Anatolian Roman Catholic saints?

In general I would like to know how is possible to change category or subcategories.

Thanks a lot and sorry my mistakes related to categories but it will be construtive because there are saint belonging to Catholic Church and others belonging to Eastern ones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roltz (talk • contribs)

Latin

You may be busy, I know, but I just created Berthoald, Duke of Saxony and left a bunch of untranslated Latin in it. Since I have gone to you at least twice that I can recall for Latin help, I was hoping you could translate these fair-sized chunks if/when you have the time and/or the will. If not, then so be it, but I thought I'd let you know; they are too much for me to even take a stab at. Srnec (talk) 01:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC) I am not aware that Regino's Chronicon has been translated into English. But maybe you know otherwise. Srnec (talk) 02:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup and ¡Muchísimas gracias! (That's the closest to Latin I can get.) Srnec (talk) 05:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Thirteenth-century Kingdom of Jerusalem, eh? I think I might have good sources for that period, so I'll see what I can do. Srnec (talk) 04:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

source for "li plus apareissanz et plus dreis heis dou rouame" from Guy de Lusignan

Hello Adam Bishop. Could you help me please? I'd like find the source of this quotation "li plus apareissanz et plus dreis heis dou rouame" of Renaud de Châtillon. I couldn't find any reliable external links. I'm trying to bring up the article Renaud de Châtillon into FA on my home wiki and this Renaud's quote is very interenting for me, but without ref I can't use it:(. With kind regards Emír Balduin Hallef Omar Ali al-Adid bin Abú Sharee al-Kerak (talk) 08:14, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Adam for the info:). But here, in central Europea, where I live, I have no chance to get this book, Medieval Women from Hamilton. I tried use the google books, but no luck.:( Could you tell me the page, if you know this book? Emír Balduin Hallef Omar Ali al-Adid bin Abú Sharee al-Kerak (talk) 08:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very very much Adam:)! I see that you intend the article Kingdom of Jerusalem to bring up to the FA, so I wish you good luck;). Cheers --Emír Balduin Hallef Omar Ali al-Adid bin Abú Sharee al-Kerak (talk) 15:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Feudalism

Please explain why you reverted the edit I made without any explanation and using the rollback tool. I think I provided a decent explanation. Green caterpillar (talk) 10:41, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Explain please? Green caterpillar (talk) 20:23, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Battle of Syllaeum

An article that you have been involved in editing, Battle of Syllaeum, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Battle of Syllaeum. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Constantine ✍ 23:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Titular dioceses

There is no rhyme or reason to how the titular dioceses are named. I wouldn't suggest naming them after the officeholder, although the two are closely related, they are not the same thing. One is a person and the other is an ecclesiastical territory. I've deliberately avoided editing these articles other then to simply deposit them in a different bin from the current existing dioceses. If you wish to take on the project of giving them a proper nomenclature, I would wholeheartedly support your decisions. Benkenobi18 (talk) 06:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for a very prompt Arabic script to Jacob's Ford, it is very much appreciated.....Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 22:16, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Caesarea Philippi was in use for only a short time...The info for Caesarea (basically Herod to Byzantium) can be expanded, with the majority in Banias. I'm looking to expand Banias substantially and trim Caesarea...Ashley kennedy3 (talk) 11:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Small abacus

Hello Adam, you are welcome to visit our page. Thank you.Roberto Lyra (talk) 20:08, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Moog Guitar

Sorry - Could I ask why this article was deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ezshay (talk • contribs) 18:34, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Message

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Message from OpenSeven

Adam Bishop, on the First Crusade FAR page, you said "I assure you all I did not make anything up". Please do not think that I was trying to suggest that you made anything up on the article. As an admin, I am sure you are aware that any debatable notions within an article (such as what motivated Europeans fighting during the First Crusade) should be cited, and the fact that you were approached by someone else and told that the article lacks "the inline cites generally required of FAs these days" (Source: Gwinva) does suggest my assertion that the article fails 1c of the FA criteria is warranted. My apologies if the preceeding sentence sounded in anyway patronising. As I did on the First Crusade FAR page, I apologise if I added citation tags to a paragraph that was already completely sourced. On a final note, I do not like being identified with the sentence "FAC busybodies stick tags everywhere when they have no knowledge of the subject", as I am sure you would not like it were you in my position. I do have some knowledge on the First Crusade from my own study of The Crusades in general, and your assertion that I stick tags everywhere without knowledge of the subject arguably infers that I am acting for the sake of ensuring the article fails the FAR. I am not saying that that was definetly your inference, and I apologise if it isn't, but can you see how that inference can come across? I do want this article to pass the FAR, and I am offended by the idea that I don't. Thank you for reading. OpenSeven (talk) 19:33, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the apology, and I agree that Misplaced Pages processes can be annoying sometimes. I too want the article to be the best source of information, and I hope it will retain FA status. OpenSeven (talk) 21:59, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Vicipaedia

Greetings from la:wiki. We have elected a new magistratus, Adam: la:Usor:Xaverius. Could you please give him sysop status? Thanks -- Andrew Dalby 14:54, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

		The Reference Desk Barnstar
		Thank you for contributing to my "greatest" poll on the Reference Desk! --Ye Olde Luke (talk) 05:01, 13 November 2008 (UTC))

Thank You

Thank You for your help with "orgiastic decadence"! Elchananheller (talk) 05:08, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Haha, that is awesome out of context. Adam Bishop (talk) 06:39, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Melisende of Arsuf

Thank you for your compliment. About the sources. Cawley uses a primary source, it's the Lignages d'Outremer Marciana MS Francese 20 CCLXXXIX, p.63. He uses this as a primary source for all his info on Melisende and the Ibelins. I have listed it but I suggest that we set up an external link to the Medieval Lands page which has citations to the Lignages d'Outremer source at the bottom. I have no luck with external links, cannot get them to work. Do you know how to do it? I think it would be helpful to the reader if he/she could just link to the page. Thank you again. If you notice any errors in the article, please correct them. I see that you are an authority on the Crusades and their kingdoms. A fascinating but alas brief, period of glorious medieval history that needs to be amplified.--jeanne (talk) 07:43, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

MY illiterate friend Adam !

King saint Ladislaus I of Hungary was nominated as leader of I. Crusade, by the european monarchs. Ladislaus refused it. Why did you delete my post? Because medieval Hungary was more important country than your poor little medieval England? Learn history before you write! http://en.wikipedia.org/Hungary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stears81 (talk • contribs)

Saint Ladislaus died before the arrival of papal herald. Read the Vatican's official Hungarian page: http://www.katolikus.hu/hun-saints/ladislaus.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stears81 (talk • contribs)

Image:Krak2.jpg listed for deletion

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Basic things about Medieval age

Adam:

They came from France and Italy. The king of France was not allowed to participate because he was excommunicated. There were a few English crusaders but the king of England was not involved. In 1095 there was no king of Spain, and the Spanish were also not allowed to participate because they already had their own wars against the Muslims. The crusaders did pass through Hungary, but it was Kolman, not Ladislaus, who dealt with them. Perhaps that website is confusing the Fourth Crusade, when the king of Hungary was asked to join, or the Fifth Crusade, when (as you obviously know) Andrew played a major role. But Ladislaus was never a leader of the First Crusade and that website is mistaken. Adam Bishop (talk) 00:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Stears:

Spanish kingdoms existed, the spanish countries united in the 17. century. Pope wasn't so greatpower as you tried to suggest. Popes originally were vassals of the Emperors, So popes tried to create a counterfeit text from ancient Rome. But Emperors didn't belive it. Sometimes popes were bundled out by Emperors. Holy Roman Emperors (who were the leaders of all catholic country) and Byzantine emperors (who were the leaders of all orthodox countries)were the main powers of the continent in X XI XII century. Read about early HRE. at www.britannica.com . Without the permission of Monarchs, the crusades have never happend. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stears81 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Denialist Hate Speech

First and foremost I would like to sincerely ask you for your help. Your input and patience is appreciated. I want to bring to your attention this. HD86 has made numerous comments such as "The Assyrians are EXTINCT people of ancient Mesopotamia whose name was stolen by some modern politicians and used in reference to the modern Syriacs. To label the modern Syriacs by "Assyrians" and to claim that "The Assyrian people trace their origins to the population of the pre-Islamic Levant" is indeed stupidity in its purest form." These comments are inflammatory, racist, unhistprical and outrageous. This user continues to deny that a whole race even exists. He needs to be wiki disciplined. This is unacceptable inflammtory denialist behavior. The equivalent of his statments would be that jews or arabs do not exist. Do you not see the point. His languge is very hateful and dimeaning to those of us involved in the project. If you take a look at his history he has similar incompetent statemetns regarding other controverisal topics. I ask for assistance in order to remove this hateful user from this discussion. He has denied the existence of an entire race that through ample ancient and modern evidence has existed for thousands of years. I will be waiting for your response. Ninevite (talk) 02:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Emphatics in Arabic loanwords from Greco-Latin

Not sure that there's any consistent rule for this, but there's certainly a ق and ط in دمقراطية ... Probably many of the words were borrowed through Aramaic, and in Aramaic undoubled non-emphatic stops preceded by a vowel automatically became fricatives ("spirantization"), so that ק and ט were useful for indicating non-fricativized stops (as is also the case in modern Hebrew). This doesn't explain the ص in صراط , though... AnonMoos (talk) 19:14, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Hi! Please note that I have filed a request for appeal here. Best regards PHG (talk) 16:05, 29 November 2008 (UTC)