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{{User|lustiger_seth}} – Hi! I'm admin at de-wiki and temp admin at meta-wiki. At meta-wiki and at ] I help to take care of the SBLs (spam blacklists). Apart from that I have a toolserver account and developed a tool to ease searching the SBL logfiles. However, at my home wiki I do all the normal admin's stuff, too. The reason I want to get the extended rights in en-wiki is to improve your ] like I did at de-wiki and meta. Some more details you can get at ].<br />Although I have an account here since 2004 (Before SUL came I was ]) I have a very, very small edit count here in en-wiki (<60), but I won't use the rights to do anything, which has nothing to do with the SBL. -- ] (]) 22:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC) {{User|lustiger_seth}} – Hi! I'm admin at de-wiki and temp admin at meta-wiki. At meta-wiki and at ] I help to take care of the SBLs (spam blacklists). Apart from that I have a toolserver account and developed a tool to ease searching the SBL logfiles. However, at my home wiki I do all the normal admin's stuff, too. The reason I want to get the extended rights in en-wiki is to improve your ] like I did at de-wiki and meta. Some more details you can get at ].<br />Although I have an account here since 2004 (Before SUL came I was ]) I have a very, very small edit count here in en-wiki (<60), but I won't use the rights to do anything, which has nothing to do with the SBL. -- ] (]) 22:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Balloonman asked me to go more into detail:<br />
I would like to have writing access to
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because I want to
* increase the performance of the Spamlists by deleting redundant entries and grouping regexps
* repair false entries, see e.g. ], ]
* repair false log entries, this is also important for the mentioned tool on the toolserver, which is used in meta and de-wiki already.
* help in defending linkspam, if there's time for that.

The length of the SBL increases day by day, and the bigger it is, the longer it takes everybody to edit any page (when placing a link), because everytime someone places a link, the spam blacklist extension will be run and parsing the SBL. Using some regexp tricks to compress the SBL gives a little speed-up. I am able to do some of those optimizations, and I did that at meta and de-wiki already.<br />
Additional to that for human beings it is not easy to search the logfiles for blocking/whitelisting reasons. I wrote a tool for that, and so it would be great, if I could edit the logs, in case somebody made wrong entries. (Otherwise I would have to write many work-arounds for my log-searching tool, because of bugs, which actually belong to the log.) -- ] (]) 00:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)


====Questions for the candidate==== ====Questions for the candidate====
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*I closed this as ] and believe that is the right move, but decided to get more input and to ask Seth for more input about what he wants to do. I'm doing this because he is apparently an admin on two other projects and claims a need where there is overlap here. I've asked him to come here and explain what he wants and why he needs the tools a little more. He did respond on his german account, so I am confident this is the same Seth.---''']''' '']'' 23:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC) *I closed this as ] and believe that is the right move, but decided to get more input and to ask Seth for more input about what he wants to do. I'm doing this because he is apparently an admin on two other projects and claims a need where there is overlap here. I've asked him to come here and explain what he wants and why he needs the tools a little more. He did respond on his german account, so I am confident this is the same Seth.---''']''' '']'' 23:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
:Please see which will show it's the same user. --<small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 23:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC) :Please see which will show it's the same user. --<small><span style="border:1px solid #0000ff;padding:1px;">] : ] </span></small> 23:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
::OK, I went into detail. If you need more information, please ask. -- ] (]) 00:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

=====Support===== =====Support=====
# What an odd request. I will however support based on good contributions in your home wiki which you can hopefully take here. ]. 23:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC) # What an odd request. I will however support based on good contributions in your home wiki which you can hopefully take here. ]. 23:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

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lustiger_seth (talk · contribs) – Hi! I'm admin at de-wiki and temp admin at meta-wiki. At meta-wiki and at my home wiki I help to take care of the SBLs (spam blacklists). Apart from that I have a toolserver account and developed a tool to ease searching the SBL logfiles. However, at my home wiki I do all the normal admin's stuff, too. The reason I want to get the extended rights in en-wiki is to improve your WP:SBL like I did at de-wiki and meta. Some more details you can get at WP:SBL#wrong_syntax_and_useless_escaping.
Although I have an account here since 2004 (Before SUL came I was user:wiki_seth) I have a very, very small edit count here in en-wiki (<60), but I won't use the rights to do anything, which has nothing to do with the SBL. -- seth (talk) 22:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

User:Balloonman asked me to go more into detail:
I would like to have writing access to

because I want to

  • increase the performance of the Spamlists by deleting redundant entries and grouping regexps
  • repair false entries, see e.g. user talk:XLinkBot/RevertList#wrong_syntax, WP:SBL#Troubleshooting_and_problems
  • repair false log entries, this is also important for the mentioned tool on the toolserver, which is used in meta and de-wiki already.
  • help in defending linkspam, if there's time for that.

The length of the SBL increases day by day, and the bigger it is, the longer it takes everybody to edit any page (when placing a link), because everytime someone places a link, the spam blacklist extension will be run and parsing the SBL. Using some regexp tricks to compress the SBL gives a little speed-up. I am able to do some of those optimizations, and I did that at meta and de-wiki already.
Additional to that for human beings it is not easy to search the logfiles for blocking/whitelisting reasons. I wrote a tool for that, and so it would be great, if I could edit the logs, in case somebody made wrong entries. (Otherwise I would have to write many work-arounds for my log-searching tool, because of bugs, which actually belong to the log.) -- seth (talk) 00:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Questions for the candidate

Dear candidate, thank you for offering to serve Misplaced Pages as an administrator. It is recommended that you answer these optional questions to provide guidance for participants:

1. What administrative work do you intend to take part in?
A: WP:SBL only.
2. What are your best contributions to Misplaced Pages, and why?
A: WP:SBL will be the best contribs. ;-) My contribs will increase the performance of the SBL a bit.
3. Have you been in any conflicts over editing in the past or have other users caused you stress? How have you dealt with it and how will you deal with it in the future?
A: No edits -> No stress. :-)

General comments

RfAs for this user:

Please keep discussion constructive and civil. If you are unfamiliar with the nominee, please thoroughly review Special:Contributions/lustiger_seth before commenting.

Discussion

  • I closed this as WP:NOTNOW and believe that is the right move, but decided to get more input and to ask Seth for more input about what he wants to do. I'm doing this because he is apparently an admin on two other projects and claims a need where there is overlap here. I've asked him to come here and explain what he wants and why he needs the tools a little more. He did respond on his german account, so I am confident this is the same Seth.---Balloonman 23:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Please see this which will show it's the same user. --Kanonkas :  Talk  23:23, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
OK, I went into detail. If you need more information, please ask. -- seth (talk) 00:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Support
  1. What an odd request. I will however support based on good contributions in your home wiki which you can hopefully take here. Garden. 23:30, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. Interesting request, and I see no reason not to trust him. - NuclearWarfare My work 23:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. Assuming good faith here since I have no idea who you are, or what you do, but hey. An admin on two other projects, no reason to see why you can't do well here too. —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 23:47, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  4. Tentative support, pending confirmation that he is not insane on de.wiki or meta. I'm tentatively supporting, rather than waiting, because I have a bad feeling about how this is going to go down, and I want to do what I can to slow it down. Assuming everything is in order at de. and meta., why not trust a long-term supporter of the overall project in his attempt to improve our corner of it? I would oppose a request to be a full-fledged admin here, as our culture is likely significantly different. But I see no reason not to trust his promise to stay in the SBL and help us there. --barneca (talk) 23:53, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  5. Support: Above link confirms identity on de-wiki/meta. Unless there is some dark secret at .de or meta, +sysop flags on two major projects demonstrates all of the trust I need. Welcome aboard. Lazulilasher (talk) 00:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
  6. Support: I would be quite happy to endorse this request. Nick (talk) 00:06, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Oppose
  1. Per number of edits here. Though your intentions are laudable, adminship is pretty all or nothing on wikipedia. I've added WP:SBL to my watchlist though, and would ask other admins to do the same, to make any additions suggested there get added a little faster. --fvw* 23:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
  2. There are already moral supports, so I have to oppose per WP:NOTNOW, also per lack (less than 500) contributions. ayematthew ✡ 00:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
    This should not be NOTNOW, based on the supports that are not moral supports. - NuclearWarfare My work 00:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
  3. Strong Oppose per lack of experience. 5 months doesn't let me down, but (I don't know if the edit counter is messing around,) but less than 50? WP:NOTNOW!!! I can see why you have no edit conflicts... But you are kind of on the right track. Sorry! Try again in a few months... K50 Dude ROCKS! 00:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC) P.S....anybody that thinks that the edit counter was being stupid to me, could you PELASE let me know on my talk page (click ROCKS! up on my sig.) because I just don't know... I feel it is letting me down...
    I'm really probably veering off of AGF here, but please read the nomination, the questions, and the full discussion before !voting based on a low edit count reason. The candidate explains why his low number of edits is not an issue. This is most assuredly not a NOTNOW issue. - NuclearWarfare My work 00:26, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
Neutral
  1. Neutral Can't support right now. His answers really don't explain much. America69 (talk) 00:24, 18 December 2008 (UTC)