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| :::Somehow John has been confused by the wrong thread. The relevant thread is ], submitted by Jossi (who announced his retirement after my evidence) and already commented upon by three arbitrators, none of whom saw merit to the proposal. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 20:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | :::Somehow John has been confused by the wrong thread. The relevant thread is ], submitted by Jossi (who announced his retirement after my evidence) and already commented upon by three arbitrators, none of whom saw merit to the proposal. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 20:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
| ::::These user talk pages were not deleted by order of the Arbitration Committee. The community may want to restore them, even in the absence of the Committee directing such action. ] 20:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | ::::These user talk pages were not deleted by order of the Arbitration Committee. The community may want to restore them, even in the absence of the Committee directing such action. ] 20:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
| :::::So essentially you are attempting to do an end run around the ArbCom regarding the most sensitive part of an ongoing arbitration case, and using an out of context quote from an editor as your pretext for this very cavalier treatment of his privacy. Considering the aggressive and unprovoked statements you have been making about him in relation to this case, this approaches ]. Please withdraw the nomination; I wouldn't want a formal complaint to result. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 20:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
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User talk:Smee and User talk:Smeelgova
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On November 3, 2007, Durova deleted User talk:Smee and User talk:Smeelgova , shortly before resigning her administrative privileges. On September 22, 2007, Cirt commenced editing , without disclosing that Smee and Smeelgova were his prior accounts -- see Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology/Workshop#Motion_to_openly_discuss_Cirt.27s_past_identity. Recently, Durova introduced evidence in a current arbitration case regarding Cirt's interactions with Jossi, dating back to 2006, when Cirt was editing as Smeelgova. Thus, in addition to the generally objectionable nature of removing significant portions of the talk page history of a user actively editing Misplaced Pages, these particular talk page deletions hinder the formulation of a response to Durova's own evidence. John254 19:52, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Comment it's odd that John254 highlights the red herring of my subsequent resignation while failing to mention the security concern I submitted as evidence to the ongoing arbitration case. Suggest closing this procedurally; the arbitrators and Jimbo Wales have appropriate information in their hands. Durova 20:01, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- In Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology/Workshop#Motion_to_openly_discuss_Cirt.27s_past_identity, Cirt stated that "The security matter has been resolved. My previous account was Smee, renamed from Smeelgova. Discuss them if you like." , rendering the "security concern" to which Durova refers moot. The question here is not whether the deletions were correct at the time they were effectuated, but rather whether the talk pages should remain deleted. John254 20:07, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Furthermore, I mentioned Durova's resignation only for the limited purpose of explaining why I did not request that she reverse her own deletions before raising the matter here. John254 20:10, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Somehow John has been confused by the wrong thread. The relevant thread is Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology/Workshop#Motion_to_undelete_Cirt.27s_past_accounts.27_talk_pages, submitted by Jossi (who announced his retirement after my evidence) and already commented upon by three arbitrators, none of whom saw merit to the proposal. Durova 20:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- These user talk pages were not deleted by order of the Arbitration Committee. The community may want to restore them, even in the absence of the Committee directing such action. John254 20:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- So essentially you are attempting to do an end run around the ArbCom regarding the most sensitive part of an ongoing arbitration case, and using an out of context quote from an editor as your pretext for this very cavalier treatment of his privacy. Considering the aggressive and unprovoked statements you have been making about him in relation to this case, this approaches WP:POINT. Please withdraw the nomination; I wouldn't want a formal complaint to result. Durova 20:17, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- These user talk pages were not deleted by order of the Arbitration Committee. The community may want to restore them, even in the absence of the Committee directing such action. John254 20:12, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Somehow John has been confused by the wrong thread. The relevant thread is Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Scientology/Workshop#Motion_to_undelete_Cirt.27s_past_accounts.27_talk_pages, submitted by Jossi (who announced his retirement after my evidence) and already commented upon by three arbitrators, none of whom saw merit to the proposal. Durova 20:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)