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	There is a request pending on WP:RfAr for an amendment or clarification of one of the findings of fact in the ''Barrett v. Rosenthal'' case. Since you drafted the decision in that case, I'd be grateful if you could contribute your thoughts to the discussion. Thanks, ] (]) 10:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)		There is a request pending on WP:RfAr for an amendment or clarification of one of the findings of fact in the ''Barrett v. Rosenthal'' case. Since you drafted the decision in that case, I'd be grateful if you could contribute your thoughts to the discussion. Thanks, ] (]) 10:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

			== threshold rpg article deletion ==

			Could you weigh in on http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Threshold_(online_game) a MUD article for deletion if you have the time. Thanks. --] (]) 16:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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I maintain a fork of Misplaced Pages at http://wikinfo.org, alternative address, http://internet-encyclopedia.org/. It is hosted by ibiblio.org. Fred Bauder 18:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Notes

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Barnstar

		The Minor Barnstar
		For of few words are made great men. It is the minor actions, the small subtleties, that can show the greatest valor, the deepest insight, the discerning thought. Thank you : ) Jc37 03:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Defender of the Wiki

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		I award you this Defender of the Wiki barnstar in recognition of your three years of continuous meritorious service on the Arbitration Committee. (Sorry that it's a bit late) Eluchil404 11:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar of Peace

		The Barnstar of Peace
		For the integrity with which you provide peacemaking guidance. Law Lord (talk) 06:50, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Sakotis!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's a Sakotis for you! This cake promotes WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving this cake to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Fernando Buceta (talk) 10:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

notifying of mediation case

Well, I see that you already found your way to Giovanni's mediation case on your own :) --Enric Naval (talk) 01:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Angela Davis

Fred, thanks for your note. I figured it out. JKeck (talk) 02:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Question

You might want to respond here. There is a question about whether you meant the Three layer cake with frosting finding to be only a statement or summary of background information or the parties' positions. That's what Newyorkbrad says. I used it to justify an edit removing the implication that no scientist could be a parapsychologist. ——Martin ☎ Ψ Φ—— 00:53, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

German 'Guarantee'

Hi thanks for the note.

I removed the line about the german guarantee due to what was actually announced. The Germans said no one would lose out, with out actually guaranteeing it. This is similar to the British Govt saying that they have not let anyone lose their money. A quick look on the BBC website shows the following note http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/2008/10/what_the_germans_did.html

Whilst they are saying people will not lose savings this is not quite the same as offering an unlimited guarantee as issued by the Irish, Danish and Greeks.

Secondary Source - http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/German-Bank-Deal-Sky-News-Learns-Germany-May-Not-Guarantee-Savings-In-Full/Article/200810115113805?lpos=Business_Carousel_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15113805_German_Bank_Deal%3A_Sky_News_Learns_Germany_May_Not_Guarantee_Savings_In_Full

Lots of confusing and apparantly inaccurate reports out there.

--GazMan7 (talk) 14:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Did you see...

Hi Fred, did you see this? NJGW (talk) 15:26, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

On RFArb page

Hello Fred. It seems that a backlog may be developing in clarifications and other requests. I know you've put a lot of hard work and assistance in past cases (coz I've seen it in old cases I read this year, and coz Nyb also said it), and at Nyb's suggestion, I'm hoping you can provide some assistance concerning one of the cases you'd voted on back when you were a sitting arb. I'm requesting/nudging/nagging you to provide your input on this one, preferrably in the next day or so, or otherwise, as soon as possible. Appreciate it :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 17:00, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Is Wikinfo down?

I have tried for the past two days to access Wikinfo, and my sessions keep on timing out. Is Wikinfo down? My stuff is not lost is it? What's happening? I'm very worried. Please email me wheelerplatsis(AT)hotmail(DOT)com. Thanks let me know what is going on will ya.WHEELER (talk) 22:34, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

I can't even access ibiblio.org!WHEELER (talk) 22:40, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Nothing whatever is going on. Wikinfo is up, as is ibiblio. Fred Talk 01:30, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I still can not access Wikinfo. I think I am being blocked. Is that possible? I try 15 times and no go. I have been trying for a couple of days. I can access every other website, I can access the Drudge Report, Misplaced Pages and Hotmail, but I can not access Wikinfo. I believe I am being blocked. WHEELER (talk) 01:47, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Even if you were blocked you could still read it. You would get a blocking message when you tried to log in if you were blocked. Fred Talk 02:04, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Try this Fred Talk 02:07, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Your suggestion didn't work. Still, I am getting this message ""Network Timeout:: The server at www.wikinfo.org is taking too long to respond."" I have written to Sprint, my internet provider, to check why this is so. Many times Wikinfo is slow, but never like this; this is very very strange. WHEELER (talk) 02:29, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

I tried both Mozilla and Internet Explorer and both do the same thing. Is my ISP being used somewhere to block me? Or is it a Sprint problem. I don't know.WHEELER (talk) 02:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Try starting over: go to http://wikinfo.org Fred Talk 03:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

That didn't work as well. I think it will be awhile before I am back on. I am now in contact with my internet provider, Sprint, and see what can be done. It may be some time. I'll get back to you. Thanks for trying to help.WHEELER (talk) 02:11, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Trying using the Firefox browser. Fred Talk 02:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Giano

Fred, I appreciate that posting on Giano's page that the block will be reviewed, is necessary to prevent any old tom dick or harry reblocking him - but are you sure you're the right man for the job given your two histories. This doesn't look like an impartial action. --Joopercoopers(talk) 22:08, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

(cross post)Prior to a proposal I made to ban Giano for incivility as a remedy in an arbitration case a couple of years ago we had no conflict. I did not even know who he was. Fred Talk 22:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Precisely - for several years, there has been bad blood between you - and presumably you know who he is now - its stretching credulity a little to think you're impartial here. --Joopercoopers (talk) 22:15, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Good luck with getting that past the community. Can we expect Mr Gerard's actions to be reviewed and balanced against the subsequent events in a similar manner by you while you're in extra-curricula mode? --Joopercoopers (talk) 22:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

No, I will not be considering that matter. I'm not sure there is any appropriate administrative action to take. Remember, I am not an arbitrator. Fred Talk 22:26, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

A question:

Hi Fred. I have some concerns about your analysis, and wanted to get your thoughts. Are you counting amongst Giano's seven civility blocks the three that William M Connolley applied to Giano in short succession, that ArbCom decided was not a valid escalation of block terms, (as well as the fourth that was WMC wheel-warring the block back on). Are you also counting the ones that were overturned as not incivil? I'm just afraid in that coming from the outside, as you are here, you're getting a false picture of the block terms? Thanks for your thoughts. SirFozzie (talk) 18:20, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

The William M. Connolley block is counted once, number 4 at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/IRC#Log_of_blocks_and_bans. I count all blocks that were made upon a sound basis. Some were overturned but not by the person who made them. Fred Talk 18:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

About Giano, how about his block is suspended until after the election whether he runs or not? Then it would not look like he is being forced to run, and he would be allowed to comment and vote on the election. In the end, you still need an administrator to carry out the block of course. --Apoc2400 (talk) 19:19, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. Fred Talk 19:21, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

You may have to clarify that on his talk page as well. Take care btw. You will have a lot of unfriendly people coming your way. --Apoc2400 (talk) 19:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

a query based on Wikipedians by age

Hi Fred, there's a thread at User talk:Secret/Attract More Editors#Grey Power where your views would be much appreciated, whether you want to chuck a bucket of coldwater over us the idea or otherwise. Ϣere Spiel Chequers 21:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Fru23

I have a basic idea of what sources are acceptable, but there seems to be a double standard.Fru23 (talk) 20:21, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Media matters on Bill OReilly and newsbusters on al franken/Olberman, when I proposed the use of newsbuster as a source on the those articles it was shot down for the same reasons I stated on bills article for the removal of mediamatters. WP:own wp:tagteam Fru23 (talk) 23:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)

Just an aside...

That Jo Freeman link provided on your userpage has been an immense catalyst for me recently. Do you have any links to works like that (about small organizations)? I'm a coordinator for the mediation cabal and I can see some of this stuff already happening. Or not; it's hard to tell. At any rate, thanks for providing that link :-) Xavexgoem (talk) 06:56, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

KingsOfHearts, Fru23, JcLiner?

Maybe a new one here: Baseball Bugs 20:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Comment to Giano

Fred, you stated that "If anybody else had acted like Giano they would have been gone long ago." Let me clarify something: its not Giano, its good content contributors that are given this leniency. This is an encyclopedia, and its first priority is to try and get as much content as possible. However, everyone knows that content contributors get attacked because not everyone agrees with what is added and it can cause conflicts. The more you add, the more conflicts. This is where the leniency comes in. Its not improper. Its not evil. Its actually what allows this encyclopedia to continue its way towards being complete. Ottava Rima (talk) 22:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Request for guidance

Hello. Thanks for the help you have earlier provided me on Misplaced Pages! I could need your input here: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/Law_Lord. Please help me with your guidance. Thanks! --Law Lord (talk) 05:37, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

I've sent you an Email

It's concerning a check user I would like to request. SteelersFan-9 4 05:27, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Please look again

Hi Fred. You responded to an incident post I created about More random musing (talk · contribs) at . He received no administrative warning or other effective measure.

Since the incident, he has continued to add original research (including the "Nazi" comparison ) and otherwise tried to skew the article with quotes and highly selective use of source. A number of editors have stated their disagreement with this skew and with these edits, and I have cogently argued against the attempts to place OR into the article. Lacking both consensus and the support of policy, he has continued to push the same things.

That More random musing so recently reintroduced the Nazi OR really seems like bad faith editing to me, and I suspect that he is just taking advantage of the situation created by nobody responding seriously to the problem I brought up at the incidents noticeboard.

If nobody of rank and authority deals with this user, I don't think that this article's problems can be fixed, since he even reverts {{fact}} tags on unsupported and contested material . Chedorlaomer (talk) 18:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Feliz Navidad

Hombre. Thanks, SqueakBox 20:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Anachronism

please take a look : . More random musing (talk) 08:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

I am aware of this: http://en.wikipedia.org/Yellow_badge#Muslim_countries.

Few points:

In the counry of India this practice was put forth under Akbar's realm and his general Tukriya under whose realm it happened was known for forced conversions of Hindu race. Resistance to conversions usually meant killing of those who resisted.

The wiki article that you cited also cites the nazi patch http://en.wikipedia.org/Yellow_badge#Nazi_period

All these articles suggest that colored patches were put on defeated to discriminate against them by the victors. So it does not seem out of place to mention the Nazi bit in the article as the yellow badge article also does.

More random musing (talk) 08:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year

RfAr/Barrett v. Rosenthal

There is a request pending on WP:RfAr for an amendment or clarification of one of the findings of fact in the Barrett v. Rosenthal case. Since you drafted the decision in that case, I'd be grateful if you could contribute your thoughts to the discussion. Thanks, Newyorkbrad (talk) 10:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

threshold rpg article deletion

Could you weigh in on http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Threshold_(online_game) a MUD article for deletion if you have the time. Thanks. --Theblog (talk) 16:17, 3 January 2009 (UTC)