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| * ''Your Ignorant Prejudice against the 10-string guitar...'' | * ''Your Ignorant Prejudice against the 10-string guitar...'' | ||
| * ''Your coattail-riding of the name, image and reputation of Narciso Yepes - of whose actual work ethic, performance practice and concept of the 10-string guitar there is not a trace to be found...'' | * ''Your coattail-riding of the name, image and reputation of Narciso Yepes - of whose actual work ethic, performance practice and concept of the 10-string guitar there is not a trace to be found...'' | ||
| Marlow's user page is admittedly a vanity page. Hey, she's a ], or was. She set up her user page, and made one edit to the 10-string guitar article, adding her own website as a reference. You immediately reverted the edit, with little explanation, and added insulting remarks to her talk page, and she hasn't been back. And there's something about sock puppetry concerning Archeoix which may well be valid. But none of that is an excuse for incivility. | Marlow's user page is admittedly a vanity page. Hey, she's a ], or was. She set up her user page, and made one edit to the 10-string guitar article, adding her own website as a reference. You immediately reverted the edit, with little explanation, and added insulting remarks to her talk page, and she hasn't been back. And there's something about sock puppetry concerning Archeoix which may well be valid. But none of that is an excuse for incivility. | ||
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Civility, personal attack, and content issues
Viktor
Please consider changing your manner of responding to those who do not share your views on ten-string guitars. You have frequently violated WP:ATTACK, WP:CIVILITY and WP:OWN. Some examples:
- post to User talk:Andrewa ...your denial of physical phenomena that have been empirically and mathematically proven true, shows only YOUR "fringe view" to be "nonsense"! As for the article, I will improve it when I have the time, but I certainly do not need "help" from individuals who have NO KNOWLEDGE of the subject!
- post to User talk:Andrewa ...You are evidently not a musicologist/organologist/semiologist/semantician so I don't see what you think you will achieve by being bothersome about this issue... (the charge that I'm ...not... is actually false as well as being irrelevant...)
- reply to User talk:Archeoix Rubbish! Come on, let's be honest, please. Surely I don't have to teach you your scales?
- post to User talk:58.161.124.131 Please refrain from advertising your product (the B.C. Rich so-called 10-string guitar) here... falsely accusing the contributor of WP:COI.
- post to User talk:9frontier9 Your Ignorant Prejudice against the 10-string guitar...
- post to Janet Marlow's user page Your coattail-riding of the name, image and reputation of Narciso Yepes - of whose actual work ethic, performance practice and concept of the 10-string guitar there is not a trace to be found...
Marlow's user page is admittedly a vanity page. Hey, she's a newbie, or was. She set up her user page, and made one edit to the 10-string guitar article, adding her own website as a reference. You immediately reverted the edit, with little explanation, and added insulting remarks to her talk page, and she hasn't been back. And there's something about sock puppetry concerning Archeoix which may well be valid. But none of that is an excuse for incivility.
You have reverted accurate and verifiable content which did not support your opinions, in particular content that refers to the B.C.Rich ten-string guitars, to baroque guitars and to alternate tunings for the Yepes guitar. In some cases such as that of the B.C.Rich guitars the material was unsourced but relevant, accurate and easily verified, so removal was justifiable but unconstructive; In other cases the material was adequately sourced and there were no grounds for its removal. In no case were any grounds given other than your personal opinions.
- B.C.Rich guitar
- B.C.Rich guitar earlier attempt
- capos, alternate tunings
- baroque guitar (this section was eventually, grudgingly, allowed)
Your opinions are arguably citeable, as are those of Marlow, Macaluso and undoubtedly Yepes himself. Your input is both valuable and probably unique. But it's not good form here to cite yourself as an expert, particularly when these opinions are controversial, both to avoid infringements of WP:NPOV and of WP:OR.
Please, I don't want to escalate this further, but if I must I will. The article needs lots of work, and some of it will involve removing your opinions from it. Your abrasive approach is preventing this work from happening, and scaring other editors away.
You don't own the article. Please try to work through consensus, or we'll need to escalate these issues through WP:DR. Andrewa (talk) 06:12, 11 January 2009 (UTC)