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I strongly believe I do. Your today's manners against me are waaaaay beyond the line. Did you pledge to admins that you cease such incivility and harassment against me, didn't you? I'm very disappointed at you "again" for your behaviors. Your edit summaries are very personal and have nothing to do with the subject. Since you called my edit "vandalism", did you find any source for your claim that the South Korean singers are "not famous outside South Korea" unlike the Japanese singer? Even if you could find such sources, calling me of "vandalising" "troll" is "personal attacks". Besides, you accused my removal of your unsourced original research is motivated by "anti-Japanese sentiment". You also falsely accused me that I made accusation against the "sock" of sockpuppetry (indeed confirmed sockpuppeter "twice" by Checkuser unlike you) and the sock was even warned by an admin for his "racist attack" against me. Then, I see your practice are all worthy for me to give you the templates of personal attacks and original research. If you can't refrain from committing such "unconstructive" behaviors, then, you're not fit to this community.--] 13:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC) I strongly believe I do. Your today's manners against me are waaaaay beyond the line. Did you pledge to admins that you cease such incivility and harassment against me, didn't you? I'm very disappointed at you "again" for your behaviors. Your edit summaries are very personal and have nothing to do with the subject. Since you called my edit "vandalism", did you find any source for your claim that the South Korean singers are "not famous outside South Korea" unlike the Japanese singer? Even if you could find such sources, calling me of "vandalising" "troll" is "personal attacks". Besides, you accused my removal of your unsourced original research is motivated by "anti-Japanese sentiment". You also falsely accused me that I made accusation against the "sock" of sockpuppetry (indeed confirmed sockpuppeter "twice" by Checkuser unlike you) and the sock was even warned by an admin for his "racist attack" against me. Then, I see your practice are all worthy for me to give you the templates of personal attacks and original research. If you can't refrain from committing such "unconstructive" behaviors, then, you're not fit to this community.--] 13:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

:: I am a strong believer in giving people respect, if they give respect to you. You have displayed bad faith against me at all times, you have constantly removed my comments from your talk page, you have referred to my edits as vandalism on too many occasions for me to count, you have accused me of pro-Japanese and anti-Japanese bias. You accuse me of harassment? don't make me laugh - let's take the SeeYa article as an example - according to the edit history you have never edited that article until today - your first edit on that article was to revert me - seems that you are taking great interest in my edits.

:: Don't get offended with something done to you, when you have done the same.
:: That is your problem, when you accuse someone of racism/bias/vandalism/harassment you consider yourself to be the victim, but when someone accuses you of exactly the same, you still consider yourself to be the victim.

::So, No - I don't owe you an apology

:: I suggest that you tone down your attitude, stop accusing people of vandalism when it is just a content dispute, and stop checking my edit history and following me to articles such as SeeYa.

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You have new messages (last change).

I don't have any problems with offensive language, as long as you don't call me a cunt. Call my edit a cunt - that's just fine. Too many people whine when they seem a word such as cunt, shit or fuck.


I do tend to delete messages when they are no longer relevant, so don't take offence if/when your message goes the way of the dodo

User:Ziggymaster

User:Ziggymaster has been reverting the proposals on the South Korea talk page without any accompanying edit summaries or notes. Now that protection is gone, he has also recommenced the adding of wiki-link after wiki-link. I'm going to politely ask him to talk on the Talk page for the article, but given the nature of his (brand new) account as well as notices on his talk page (already, after only one month) for POV-pushing, I have a sinking feeling he's not going to listen to reason... RlndGunslinger (talk) 23:42, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I see Ziggymaster seems to be a real article vandalist. I came to his/her page to complain about deletions in the Korea Train Express article, then saw Z did the same on other pages, and worse. I'm relatively new to the Misplaced Pages as community of editors; but maybe there are some conventions on starting some proper action against him/her we should consider applying? --Rontombontom (talk) 19:46, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

RE: Problems

There may be a few similarities. However, I can't go on a witch hunt based on my hunch; I'm gonna take some time and examine the contributions very closely. I'll probably be able to turn up an answer for you by tomorrow. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 06:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

As someone who has been the subject of a "you're a sockpuppet" witch-hunt, I can see why proof is more important than a feeling, I may be wrong, it might be likely but unproven, in which case the benefit of the doubt is always a good thing. I really cant be bothered to edit the article in question in the current state of affairs, I get the feeling the next block I get for edit warring is going to be a rather lengthy one, so I want some article stability before I touch it again. Thanks for having a look. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
You've got mail! Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 05:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Be careful of edit warring

I worry about your edits of South Korea. I don't hope that you are blocked again. If you can, I think you should show the source.--NAZONAZO (talk) 06:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

wondergirls/lakshmix/ziggymaster/etc

Thanks for your message. I'll look into Pds0101. I don't follow the Korea articles closely enough to notice something like that on my own; I found the other three from Global City which I work on regularly. I would guess there is enough suspicious for a CheckUser (I'm not a CheckUser, just a regular admin) so I would certainly endorse a WP:RFCU for Pds0101. Best, MCB (talk) 02:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't you owe me an apology for your personal attacks?

I strongly believe I do. Your today's manners against me are waaaaay beyond the line. Did you pledge to admins that you cease such incivility and harassment against me, didn't you? I'm very disappointed at you "again" for your behaviors. Your edit summaries are very personal and have nothing to do with the subject. Since you called my edit "vandalism", did you find any source for your claim that the South Korean singers are "not famous outside South Korea" unlike the Japanese singer? Even if you could find such sources, calling me of "vandalising" "troll" is "personal attacks". Besides, you accused my removal of your unsourced original research is motivated by "anti-Japanese sentiment". You also falsely accused me that I made accusation against the "sock" of sockpuppetry (indeed confirmed sockpuppeter "twice" by Checkuser unlike you) and the sock was even warned by an admin for his "racist attack" against me. Then, I see your practice are all worthy for me to give you the templates of personal attacks and original research. If you can't refrain from committing such "unconstructive" behaviors, then, you're not fit to this community.--Caspian blue 13:56, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

I am a strong believer in giving people respect, if they give respect to you. You have displayed bad faith against me at all times, you have constantly removed my comments from your talk page, you have referred to my edits as vandalism on too many occasions for me to count, you have accused me of pro-Japanese and anti-Japanese bias. You accuse me of harassment? don't make me laugh - let's take the SeeYa article as an example - according to the edit history you have never edited that article until today - your first edit on that article was to revert me - seems that you are taking great interest in my edits.
Don't get offended with something done to you, when you have done the same.
That is your problem, when you accuse someone of racism/bias/vandalism/harassment you consider yourself to be the victim, but when someone accuses you of exactly the same, you still consider yourself to be the victim.
So, No - I don't owe you an apology
I suggest that you tone down your attitude, stop accusing people of vandalism when it is just a content dispute, and stop checking my edit history and following me to articles such as SeeYa.

カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:07, 25 January 2009 (UTC)