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--Sallicio 16:25, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from Promethean

Master of Puppets,
I wish you and your family all the best this Christmas and that you also have a Happy and safe new year.
Thankyou for all your contributions to Misplaced Pages this year and I look forward to seeing many more from you in the future.
Your work around Misplaced Pages has not gone un-noticed, this notice is testimony to that
Please feel free to drop by my talkpage any time to say Hi, as I will probably say Hi back :)

All the Best.   «l| Ψrometheăn ™|l»  (talk)

Happy Christmas!

Wish you a very happy Christmas, buddy. --GPPande 17:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas from me too. Spencer 17:15, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

On User:carl.bunderson

Regarding the John the Baptist Article, you told Carl and I to stop editing regarding the dating system. I complied to the order, but Carl did not, and edited the article agaisnt your word. I feel the edit was rather inappropriate, cconsidering you told us to not edit the dating style or else we would be blocked, and would like to see it so that your word would be carried out. After all, we cannot tolerate disorder on Misplaced Pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WhenYou'reAJet (talk • contribs) 14:33, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

After looking through a lot of adopters, I finally choose a few:

• User:Mailer diablo
• User:Jayron32
• User:Sephiroth BCR
• User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
• You

And you are chosen. Do you know why? Because I want:

1. Admins that I recognize

• User:Mailer diablo
• User:Jayron32
• User:Sephiroth BCR
• User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
• You

2. Admins that recognize me

• User:Mailer diablo
• User:Jayron32
• You

3. Admins I find friendly and easy to deal with

• User:Mailer diablo
• You

4. Active Admins

• You

Will you adopt me? --Mark Chung (talk) 14:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, by the way, Goodnight! The time in Malaysia now is 10:55 p.m. I'm going to get some sleep. See you tomorrow! Mark Chung (talk) 14:55, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Re:Adoption

Umm... I know that a user can adopt multiple users(a person can have many kids), but can a user be adopted by 2 users(Dad and Mum)? I actually asked for adoption from 2 users. They are:

• You
• User:Bibliomaniac15

I am having trouble choosing between you two. Both of you:

• are familiar to me
• knows me
• are friendly
• are always active
• are WONDERFUL!

Bibliomaniac:

• Is a bureaucrat

Master of Puppets:

• Responds to my questions more often

I really wish to be adopted by both of to at the same time,like I need a Dad and a Mum.

Who'll be Dad? Who'll be Mum? --Mark Chung (talk) 13:30, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Radwan Dąbrowski-Żądło Family

I appreciate your message:

Admin note: Please stop referring to Piotrus's arbcom case and/or past history, Exxess. Those are not in any way related to this AFD, whether you feel he has ulterior motives or not. Let the nomination run its course; you may comment if you want, but again, keep it relevant. Thank you. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :D 17:06, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Radwan Dąbrowski-Żądło Family and a second nomination for deletion by Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus, something fishy is going on:

From article's author -- Exxess: -- Quoting Poitrus -- "The family doesn't seem notable. Don't be fooled by seeming plentiful refs: they are not about the family." Equivocal statement followed by an out-and-out lie. The family is noted in several of the widely-published references. There is no reasoning of principles; no argument is required to prove fundamental rules, and Piotrus/Prokonsul is making an argument against WP:RS and {{Cite book}}. I'm not sure how to handle out-and-out fabrication, deftly hidden behind what appears to be an equitable statement on the surface. Given the boldness of the equivocation, fabrication, and insinuations from Piotrus/Prokonsul (See Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus and Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus 2 to discover Piotrus' tactics.), going straight to arbitration might be all that's possible. There's nothing reasonable to deal with. If the article survives this second deletion nomination (the first failed), Poitrus will again nominate the article for deletion (multiple jeopardy) after bidding his time until he gets what he wants (fishing for a deletion), the reading public be damned. Nor is it beyond Piotrus to resort to sockpuppeting and meatpuppet dogpiling, according to the Arbitration Requests against him. Piotrus/Prokonsul is pressing a suit against this particular article for a second time for the same cause of action (non-notability, although the family is proven to be notable in the reference works), when a judgment on this same matter was rendered previously in his first deletion attempt -- "Four Keep Votes" to "One Delete Vote". This article should not be sued for a deletion a second time for the same cause of action, when judgment has already been rendered. Piotrus is abusing his power of administration, and has been bidding his time to fish for a deletion of this article for personal reasons of his own. The existing arbitration cases against Piotrus demonstrate he's perfectly capable of resorting to sneaky and underhanded tactics. It's on the record Piotrus, a.k.a. Prokonsul, has been recently urged, cautioned, and admonished.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus -- Radwan Dąbrowski-Żądło Family

On Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus and his second deletion nomination of Radwan Dąbrowski-Żądło Family:

My apologies for what appears to be bad form regarding Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus, but nothing is invented and perfected at the same time, and it's taken time to watch the development of his second deletion request to get a grasp of Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus's tactics, given I was assuming good faith from him and giving Piotrus the benefit of the doubt, until another editor made me aware of the Arbitration Cases against Piotrus. Upon reading this, it became abundantly clear the lengths Piotrus would go to and the tactics he would resort to.

For the record, I feel his second nomination of the article concerning the Radwan Dąbrowski-Żądło Family (I am the author) is without merit, and is motivated by something other than a concern with Piotrus' assertions the family is not notable, which is patently false.

I feel there is justification for placing an estoppel, so to speak, against Piotrus nominating this particular article for deletion, especially when his deletion nomination is based upon fraudulent premises (non-notability), and a lame attempt to argue against WP:RS and {{Cite book}}.

This is my real concern, given I now understand who I'm dealing with (Piotrus). I'm concerned an administrator, nonetheless, is making a fraudulent and insidious argument against WP:RS and {{Cite book}}.

The family is notable. The reference works in question are verifiable and widely-published. -- Exxess (talk) 17:51, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks, mum! Now would you please take a look at SMK Semera? I really don't want it to get deleted. Make sure you are familiar with Misplaced Pages guidelines and policies! Thanks!

Ah, I also dumped Mailer Diablo because (s)he's a deletionist. FYI, I'm an inclusionist. --Mark Chung (talk) 04:18, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

How to post

Hello MOP,

My name is Ken Diaz and I am a partner for Travels with Friends LLC, a European Tour agency based in California. You had left a message for me on my new Wiki Page - thank you for doing so. I would like to post a company bio about our business but have read that it can only be posted by 2nd party Misplaced Pages writers to ensure that I do not breach conflict of interest rules. Do you know this to be true? I am new to Misplaced Pages so I would like to make sure I follow the rules of the land. If you have any tips on how to properly post information to gain good rankings on popular search engines, I would appreciate it very much. Thanks! Ken Diaz (ken@privateshoretrips.com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Travels with Friends (talk • contribs) 21:13, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:In the news/doc

Hello! Regarding this edit:

• Was this discussed/decided somewhere?
• What is your source for the claim that "it appears most editors use" widescreen monitors?
• How is that relevant to the content that we present to our readers?

Thanks! —David Levy 09:07, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Just Stopping by. Yours Truly, M.H. 15:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC) .

Happy New Year!

Dear Master of Puppets,

Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.

Kind regards,

Majorly talk 21:24, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Protected page - Francis Drake

Can the page for Frances Drake be unprotected in order to fix the vandalism by located under the "Final Years" section.

Thanks

mwgary —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC).

Adoption

Hey I was wondering if you could adopt me, I have knowledge of PHP, HTML and BBCode, but I'm still new to wikipedia...

Edit: Just Saw you use Photoshop. That makes 2 of us! My Gallery: http://blazonja.shrani.si/ Speeda psx (talk) 14:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

wow I can't believe you replied!

I have most of my tag's work on my forums(a project of mine mostly coded by me, engine is phpbb3) http://digitalsky.site40.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9 If you are a GFX artist you should register! I 've been doing Photoshop for over a year, I can teach you some stuff in return(I'm provably gonna be a GFX artist when I grow up)

And yeah okay adopt me(I don't know the procedure)! Over the week sometimes I will be offline for a few days cause I need to study for the tests and cause I sleep somewhere else on Thursday (I have 8 school hours(a lot for me)untill 15:00 and then two trainings: table tennis and break dance :( I get to sleep at 23:15 at that time :o...)

And you should learn a bit about my country (just read wiki) Slovenia It's a breautifull country that sadly almost noone knows about it, so you 'll know something more than your friends ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Speeda psx (talk • contribs) 18:54, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

O.O!!! Miracles do happen!

OK I'm adopted!

(This is the part where is should find an adopted by userbox...)

Let's start by making me a new UserPage ] (] · ]) 21:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

The Excellent Userpage Award

Hi, MoP, I'm back from the holidays and ready to get started with my first wiki page.

I'd like to create a pretty simple company page (non sales/marketing - just basic information) on my company, Pragma Systems, and make it similar to that when you read about 'Attachmate' at Wiki.

The basic information I would want to post is listed below...how would you recommend I get started? I'm reading through the tutorials on Wiki now.

Thanks!

Andrewtull (talk) 17:43, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Pragma Systems: Your Telnet and SSH Solutions Provider

The corporation of today is faced with constant challenges in providing secure and reliable access, control, and management capabilities across its network and computing infrastructure. With these challenges come seemingly endless requests for more - more information, more access, and more productivity. Unfortunately, there also seem to be more solution providers that offer 'one stop shopping' as it relates to networking, infrastructure, and security solutions.

That is where Pragma Systems comes in. Pragma Systems is not your 'one stop shop' for any and all of your networking and security needs. What we are is focused. Focused on providing the most secure, fast, scalable, and reliable solutions for your telnet and ssh connectivity needs.

With more than 16 years solely focused in the telnet and ssh space, Pragma Systems has achieved a level of technical knowledge, domain expertise, and industry experience to lead the market in the effectiveness and extensibility of its software solutions.

Pragma Systems is a privately held corporation with headquarters located in Austin, Texas. The organization was founded in 1990 by David Kulwin and Quamrul Mina, with the intent and focus to design, develop and port networking software for Fortune 500 companies. In a short period of time, companies like IBM, Tandem, and Tivoli became customers. The organization's focus on customer service and providing customized and extensible solutions has provided the foundation for the reputation of reliability associated with Pragma Systems.

In 1995, Pragma started developing industrial grade software for the emerging 32-bit Windows NT platform. From that point on, Pragma has delivered high quality products and services focused on Windows 2008/Vista/2003/XP/2000 operating systems. In the summer of 2006, the company continued its focus on technical innovation, and was the first in the secure connectivity segment to announce products built on the 64-bit platform.

Pragma's software is deployed in the majority of Fortune 500 companies in the USA and over 2100 companies worldwide in over 62 countries. Our clients include banks and financial institutions, U.S. and international universities, telecommunications companies, internet service providers, foreign government agencies, computer hardware manufacturers, real estate, software companies, aerospace, hotels, supermarkets, retailers and many others.

Our customers include: Target, McKesson, Food Lion, Micron, Dell, Intel, IBM, NTT, Sony, Coca-Cola, Symbol, Daimler Benz, Boeing, HP, Siemens, Motorola, Bank of America, Bank BNP-Paribas, Barclays Bank, IMF, Unilever, Woolworth Australia, Sogei Italy, SchlumbergerSema and Reynolds Aluminum.

Pragma's products have won top awards in the industry such as PC Week Analyst's Choice and NSTL's best in class rating. Pragma has also been recognized by Microsoft as a top 75 fastest growing Windows Independent Software Vendor. Our technology partnerships continue our reputation for 'best in class', ranging from Computer Associates to Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel and Motorola.

Editing

Hello MoP. I have gone thru your userspace (pretty cool userpage!) and when I tried to look at something and editing, I got this giant sheep saying "Stop. Hammertime. Blah blah blah..." anyway, how do you get messages to appear like that when someone edits your page (the same applies to when I'm leaving you a message)? Let me know if you could because I'm interested! Thanks! K50 Dude ROCKS! 01:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Atlanta Street Gangs

Just wondered why you deleted this page. Thanks! 24.98.132.117 (talk) 05:02, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, much appreciated. --24.98.132.117 (talk) 05:16, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Generation X page

Sure! So, what would you recommend? Ledboots (talk) 00:45, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your message reminding one not to revert. That's a very good rule which we all should follow. We should all refrain from unilaterally deleting sources from articles, then trying to force those deletions through with repeated edits (reverts?). Badagnani (talk) 06:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. We are a collaborative project so it's best if we all understand what all of our intentions are in improving articles. The data of our articles really is of paramount importance, so our users don't find articles with sources supporting various facts and figures presented in an article's text removed for reasons unknown to even the editor who removed them. Badagnani (talk) 06:27, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Reply

Oh no. They have all been deleted again. They were all candidates for speedy deletion before they were deleted before. Could you restore them and remove them from candidates for speedy deletion? Sorry about that. Should have told you before. Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 20:55, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks :) User:Maximillion Pegasus/monobook.js was deleted again though. Could you restore it and I will remove the speedy deletion tag (the last 10 edits should be sufficient). Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 22:48, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks :) Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 23:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Civet (band)

Hey man, I see it has you as deleting the page for the band Civet? Sorry, I'm new at all this just curious why, was whatever was written poorly done? Or am I reading this wrong altogether? Just wondering, not some crazy rabid fan or anything.

I feel like Sly Stallone in Demolition Man with the three shells. What are these four tildes for? 68.54.167.89 (talk) 00:02, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Charley Casserly

Hi:

You sent me a warning about posting on Charley Casserly's biography. I don't understand why you sent the warning. What exactly did I do wrong? My comments were supported by footnotes that you could access and were all true, so they cannot be defamatory. Can you please explain? I would also like to mention that several other administrators agreed with my edits and reverted them. I'd like to have an honest, open discussion with you about this topic.

Thanks and regards,

Carlos Escobar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosescobar (talk • contribs) 01:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Update---

Hi: I reverted the changes to the Charley Casserly entry because they are all true and substantiated by the footnotes. Please read through them when you have time. Please contact me if you wish to discuss.

Respectfully,

Carlos Escobar —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosescobar (talk • contribs) 16:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Yup

Everything's fine. I've tried contacting my WikiSibling, Narutolovehinata5, but, alas, to no avail. I have become extremely active at WP:RFPP and in vandal-fighting. Twinkle is much better than Huggle. Haven't seen you much lately. What have you been up to on the 'pedia? Jonathan321 (talk) 22:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Charley Casserly

Hi:

Thanks for your note. I was trying to contract Jonathan321, and when I clicked to talk, I got sent here. Perhaps there's a broken link somewhere?

Regards,

Carlos —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosescobar (talk • contribs) 01:51, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

At it again

As you can see, TreadngWater is up to his/her antics again in the Gen-X page with a constant effort to point the lead to 1965 despite every attempt to make the article neutral, then pretending they are trying to reach a compromise. This person is causing a lot of frustration and reverts. Ledboots (talk) 16:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Adoptee seeking Experienced Editor (that would be you)

I'm looking for someone with experience to teach a n00b. Please! RlndGunslinger (talk) 08:53, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

...would you please change my adoption template so that it says you adopted me? (I want everyone else to be jealous, err, happy for me.) RlndGunslinger (talk) 06:33, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Forum Question

If Misplaced Pages is supposed to be an open forum, yet the knee-jerk reaction to an alternative viewpoint is to remove it...isn't the discontinuity obvious? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ExpandYourMind (talk • contribs) 06:02, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages isn't a forum, it's an encyclopedia. Dayewalker (talk) 06:05, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I mispoke when I called it an open forum. But, what I was stating was NOT a fringe theory, nor was it something that would need to be sourced because it was a logical deduction from previously sourced information that the existing wikipedia article already had as accepted. To clarify, I made my logical deduction by considering the current description of potential authorship within the context that the author had himself laid down, and finding it to be a flawed conclusion. He (or his source) made the conclusion that because of stylistic and grammatical differences in the text of the early greek manuscripts we have of the books of John and Revelation that the authors MUST have been different people...thus automatically precluding the possibility that it could have been the same author writing in two different states of mind. When you view the pieces in question, both extremely emotional religious works, it would seem obvious that the author(s), whoever they may be, truly believed in the veracity of their own work. To imagine that they were merely writing these texts as metaphor or commentary, in a dispassionate, clinical and academic fashion is ludicrous given the subject matter. Unfortunately, such is the subjectivity of history...those who discover the artifacts of history, historians or archaeologists or whomever, are the ones who offer the discoveries up to the rest of us, and though they may try to be as objective as possible they will still taint there observations somehow...it is kind of like the Heisenberg uncertainty principle. You can't make an observation without affecting whatever it is you are observing. Anyways, my point was that the conclusion which the author so cavalierly drew as obvious, is not necessarily so, because his point of view was limited by his assumptions...just as your point of view was limited by yours about my "opinion" ^_^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by ExpandYourMind (talk • contribs) 23:28, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Edit Conflict

I was hoping to start on a fun and positive note, (actually I want to learn how to edit properly first) but the advice I need most at the moment is how handle the edit conflicts brewing on my current project: South Korea. The page was protected, but now that it isn't, the Korean IP have started flooding in. Recently I left this note on a user's page:

Thank you for your interest in the South Korea page. Until recently the page was under protection due to rampant vandalism and edit-warring. Due to these problems and others the talk page for such a controversial article is especially important. Improvements to the article are welcome, but please feel free to post any proposals you have for improving the article on the Talk Page first. Concerning the templates placed, I put them there because these section are either completely unsourced, or have only one source. In this way, it is more appropriate to tag a section than simply add citation needed to every sentence in the section, (although others have done that.) If you check the "proposals" section you can find what I plan to improve, and my reasoning for the changes.

I'm assuming good faith, and trying to be polite, but I fear that this isn't going to work. Ideas? RlndGunslinger (talk) 23:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Although it's only a few hours later, there are twelve new edits, and four reverts. Making matters worse, no one's using the talk page yet, and double reverts are already popping up. In fact, my informal tally counts: 43 edits, 9 reverts, and three double reverts. All this in only the first 48 hours since the page became unprotected.

I'm new here, and this is the first time I've seen an edit war up close. I really am going to try hard to gather some consensus, but so far for every hour adds more contentious edits and reverts. (For the record, I've neither edited--nor reverted--anything in the article since I saw there was a conflict on my part. There's going to come a point of no return, however, when there are "too many" reverts or massive changes. After all, protection might be worse medicine than the disease.) Gotta be patient though. RlndGunslinger (talk) 07:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Adoption?

Well, I support that. Those users may need help. I don't care if I have some siblings. Ahh... that's a way to get more kids without XXX - ing with Biblio... HaHa... By the way, I'm sitting for PMR this year, so I won't be that active anymore. Thus, you can care less about your son this year. Just imagine that your son is studying abroad. By the way, please tell me who my siblings are. Thanks! --Mark Chung (talk) 07:08, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Unnecesarry Photos

I have found a lot of photos which don't use in any articles or Userpage, as an admin why don't you erased them? Kun7h14n N91n (talk) 08:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Umm.. Can you see in my contribs? You can erased them as you can. Kun7h14n N91n (talk) 13:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

South Korea

I agree with you about the edit warring and seeing my block history, I will be stepping back for a while. I wont annoy you with claims that my edits are right, that stuff is for the talk page, however Lakshmix and wondergirls seem to be one and the same. It is understandable that two people might edit the same article, especially prominent articles such as South Korea - however they both edited http://en.wikipedia.org/King%27s_College_School which is an obscure school in the UK. I have no experience filing sock puppet reports, as an admin, could you take a look at it for me please? カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 04:30, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the response, I left a message on my talk page regarding giving benefit of the doubt to possible socks etc..then I took a look at the two accounts recent history -

Wondergirls

1. 06:57, 14 January 2009 (hist) (diff) South Korea ‎
2. 06:39, 14 January 2009 (hist) (diff) South Korea ‎ (unexplained edits reverted)
3. 18:32, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (personal attacks, unexplained removal of large contents)
4. 15:58, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (Undid revision 260180687 by 124.56.177.171 (talk) unexplained change)
5. 13:38, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Seoul ‎ (you are Japanese and continuously vandalizing Korean-related articles)

Lakshmix

1. 17:52, 14 January 2009 (hist) (diff) South Korea ‎ (continued vandalism by Japanese serechi removing sourced facts, triggering an edit war again)
2. 18:00, 30 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Kazakhstan ‎
3. 04:04, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Exclusions)
4. 04:03, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Exclusions)
5. 04:00, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Exclusions)
6. 03:51, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Definition)
7. 03:47, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Exclusions)
8. 03:42, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Exclusions)
9. 03:42, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Exclusions)
10. 03:35, 26 December 2008 (hist) (diff) Developed country ‎ (→Exclusions)

Apart from the single edit on the 30th, they seem to share identical dates for their recent edit history.

But hey, you probably noticed that already.

カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

I sent you an E-mail. I reverted the South Korea article, and I was reverted by Ziggymaster, he created an account one minute after wondergirls made their last edit on Dec 26th 18:33, 26 December 2008 Ziggymaster (Talk | contribs) New user account ‎ that would explain the lack of edits from the 26th till the 14th by the both wondergirls and Lakshmix accounts. I would suggest that Ziggymaster, Lakshmix and Wondergirls are one and the same. I guess that one account is home and another is work/school - but obviously I have no IP addresses. Without those three accounts combining on the South Korea article, there would be no edit war. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you For addopting me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by BaronVonIsm (talk • contribs) 16:10, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Unfortunately, due to vandalism, edit-warring, and general mark-up issues, I've decided not to continue my work on the South Korea page. The article definitely needs someone's help, but at this time the page is apparently too controversial and too important to nationalists (Korean or otherwise) for me to continue trying in vain to fix it up. I sincerely hope that someday the page will return to neutrality and normalcy, and when it does, I'll be there to help. In the meantime, I'd like to learn more about Wiki-gnoming. :) RlndGunslinger (talk) 04:08, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Attack?

Please refer to:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Collectonian&diff=prev&oldid=260446821

I'm just suggesting articles! Look what (s)he wrote in the summary!

• http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Mark_Chung&diff=prev&oldid=260449063

(S)he warned me back because I warned the user of WP:NPA

• http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Collectonian&diff=prev&oldid=260451627

I'm just trying not to attack the user and settle the issue - am I wrong?

• http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Collectonian&diff=prev&oldid=260454780

...I...lost my temper and bashed User:Collectonian back what (s)he said about me. I'm just extremely annoyed, angry and disappointed.

Look at the edit summary. Is that called personal attack? --Mark Chung (talk) 09:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Eco/I'm sad

Did you hear about User:Ecoleetage leaving due to some uncivil opposes on his RFA. It's so sad. Just wanted to let you know. Jonathan321 (talk) 20:29, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Turns out he was indefblocked due to off wiki-harassment of a user who opposed his RFA. I thought he would probably come back after a week or so, but things only got worse...:(...Jonathan321 (talk) 00:55, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Er, no. He left because he harrassed a user in real life, not the other way. He retired in a huff over it. Majorly talk 00:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I didn't technically specify who was doing the off-wiki harassment, but I made it pretty clear by saying that the user opposed his RFA and that he was indefblocked. Jonathan321 (talk) 04:18, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah what a shame. Misplaced Pages may never have another guy like him. RIP Eco. Narutolovehinata5 06:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Considering the fact that he flipped out and made off-wiki threats to another editor's employer, I hope we never have another guy like him. EVula // talk // ☯ // 06:40, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but considering the good work he had done in the past, I was surprised to learn that he was the attacker (or whatever word I'm looking for). This was most unfortunate. Useight (talk) 06:50, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Reply to EVula, I meant we may never have another DYK user like him. What will happen to DYK? Narutolovehinata5 08:26, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, he certainly did a lot of good work. I have to say I'm sad that he lost his temper and that it had to end this way... Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 22:21, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Tomorrow's "power editor" is today's newbie. I don't want to make it sound like we're all expendable, but Misplaced Pages is an evolving community; people leave, people join. It's just a fact of life. Three years ago, I doubt anyone would have thought that some newbie that made a typo correction to some high school's article would become an administrator within the year, and a bureaucrat in a bit more than two years. EVula // talk // ☯ // 22:37, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Pity him! My killed brother... He's a fantastic user, and it's a loss to Misplaced Pages. Anyway, does anyone have the proof? It's hard to believe such a good user will harass anyone. --Mark Chung (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

IRC

Is there a certain irc channel for adopting? If not, what's the one for beginners on wikipedia? Raiku Lucifer Samiyaza 02:17, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi

I haven't been on lately, (Im stating the obvious there) because of sports Im fine and happy late Christmas and New Years! Wikidude57_BC 18:27, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi!

Hi, I'm kind of new to Misplaced Pages, can you adopt me? I have edited wikis before but not wikipedia itself and I think I would be able to know more if I had someone to ask questions about. Thanks! GNRY09 (talk) 03:51, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, My name is Eric and I'm 17 and I have been using wikipedia as a source of info for a couple of years so I thought I would help improve it. I'm interested in trains and photography so yeah, thats pretty much it for me. I guess I just want to learn more about how Misplaced Pages operates like editing and stuff like that :) GNRY09 (talk) 05:11, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

So anybody can join wikiprojects, right? As for editing, it would vandal fighting, it seems interesting but it gets kind of tedious clicking a bunch of buttons to undo an edit. How do you install something like twinkle or huggle? GNRY09 (talk) 05:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the help :) GNRY09 (talk) 05:37, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

What about the box on my userpage, can you change it for me? Thx! GNRY09 (talk) 05:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

you have mail (twice)

I sent you a reply. and then one more.

カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 03:59, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

In Responce to: Addoption

I would appreate it. My page is still in progress so I used anothers templete. I will edit it untill it bear little resemblence to the orignal. Thanks again.

--BaronVonIsm (talk) 05:21, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Talkback (again) :-P

3RR issue on Missing in action

Hello MoP. I saw your response to the slightly-malformed report of this issue at WP:AN3. The same reporter also notified me on my Talk page, in a more clear fashion, mentioning a previous ANI which he took the liberty of updating in the archived location. The guy doing the reverting still uses the term 'vandalism' consistently for whatever his opponents do, and his postings on Talk seem to fit the term 'diatribe' better than the phrase 'respectful search for consensus.' My inclination would be to issue a second edit-warring block, this time for multiple days. Since you've already responded at AN3, I'd like to know if this would be acceptable to you. Your editnotice seems to say that it's cool, but it would still be good to have your opinion. EdJohnston (talk) 04:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Need help

I want to write an article about a little know religion called Ism. However when I wrote the article was taken down due to lack of citation. This is a problem due to a lack of sources much less ones that would be mainstream enough to be considered creditable. I assure you this is a ligitimate religion. I would appreate any help you can give me. Thank you --BaronVonIsm

(talk) 17:29, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

The problem isent the lack of sources, rather the sources being obscure... --BaronVonIsm (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: relink

I thought it was already pointing at WP:ERRORS, heh. Thanks. :) — neuro 19:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Easyblock

What does it actually have? Tabs, popup-style stuff? bibliomaniac15 04:23, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I'll get a free trial. :D bibliomaniac15 04:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sold now. Now let's see, how many Wikibucks... bibliomaniac15 04:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Your bot request

Any progress on this bot request? Could you give an update so that the process can move on, thanks. Richard 16:59, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem! If you want, you can always withdraw the request and then reopen it when you have time to work on it. Richard 16:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

ITN Dispatch help

Since you're very familiar with In the news and its subpages, I was wondering if you could take a look at Misplaced Pages:FCDW/ITN, ITN's dispatch workpage for the Misplaced Pages Signpost. Please be bold and give it some cleanup/copyediting, add another section/expand, or leave a comment. Thanks, Spencer 19:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

What is keeping you off ITN? We need helping hand (especially of a good admin) there. Come back buddy! --GPPande 22:47, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Best wishes on the applications, Spencer 22:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Best of luck buddy! --GPPande 08:02, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Ethical aspects of abortion

If you want to lock this page, I say go for it! As it stands, I have a pair of conservative Christian partisans tag-teaming me and one is trying really hard to trip me up into a 3RR violation. So lock the page and make them defend their edits in Talk. Spotfixer (talk) 05:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of soft redirect at Compulsory

I would like to protest the deletion of the soft redirect from Compulsory under CSD criteria A5. Soft redirects are explicitly not subject to Article CSD criteria, and are supposed to be subject instead to Redirect criteria. This is because some of the article CSD criteria, if applied to soft redirects, could easily be used to delete most if not all soft redirects. A3 and A5 are particular problems. So I would ask you to please reverse your deletion of this page. - TexasAndroid (talk) 16:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Compulsory used {{RedirecttoWiktionary}}, which is just a redirect to {{wi}}, which is the core soft redirect template for Wiktionary. That's exactly how soft redirects are done, as there is no direct system support for such a mechanism. So, I'm sorry, but that was indeed most definitely a soft redirect. If you have problems with the soft redirect template wording, then that should go to {{wi}}. The exact wording of that template has been evolving quite a bit over time. Anyway, it was most definitely a soft redirect, and thus was most definitely not subject to A5 deletion IMHO. - TexasAndroid (talk) 15:40, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Advice.

So, Schrandit's back, and he's edit-warring on multiple fronts. What do you suggest I do? Spotfixer (talk) 04:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

I responded on my own page. Spotfixer (talk) 01:09, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

My conclusion is that Misplaced Pages is incapable of controlling editors whose sole purpose is to insert bias into articles. In particular, honest editors are necessarily at a disadvantage, as administrator policy penalizes integrity. Spotfixer (talk) 12:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Responding from Admin- intervention against vandalism

the user User:Michael IX the White I reported did not revert the changes he made i would appreciate it if the appropriate admin actions are taken against him--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 17:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

there is no concensus because there was No Prior discussion for these changes on the talk page that's why I reported it for vandalism--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 17:39, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

ok no edit war but the different viewpoints are i am afraid based on POV which makes it difficult to communicate with him --Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 17:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

No thanks but i'll hold you on that promise!--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 17:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough--Sadbuttrue92 (talk) 18:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you so much, Master of Puppets. I am very grateful that you have decided to fulfill my unblock request. Again, thank you. Blubberboy92 (talk) 02:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the guidance

Thanks for allaying my fears regarding skipping over warning levels. I'm barely beginning to learn how to use Huggle and I'm terrified of doing the wrong thing. My goal here is always, always to do the right thing and to be absolutely civil, but I know that no one is perfect, so I worry about inadvertent mistakes. I'll get more confident with experience, of course, but in the meantime, I appreciate the guidance.

Also, I have to tell you... you have, hands down, the coolest user page and talk page I've ever seen. I've seen lots of cool ones but this one blows me away. Good work! :) -- edi(talk) 03:22, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

RE:RE: Blagojevich

Copied from my talk page, no response required

Hey folks, since there's two users in this talk I'll just thread this here. I promoted it to ITN on the reasoning that the removal of a state executive is, IMO, notable whether the subject himself is or not (though I'd figure it is inherent). Seemed obvious to me that this was more than Wikinews, which is why I skipped the discussion phase.

As to the portal, thanks for letting me know, I was not aware of the duplication being needed in the editing, I thought it was transcluded. Learn something new every day ;)

And lastly, I still think that it should be on the main page. While I can understand Spencer's logic in that it needs more information to make it encyclopedic and not just news, I personally don't think that anymore should or could be added to the article on the Blagojevich scandal at the time and it is a pretty descriptive article.

No matter it all, thanks for the input and the learning opportunity from all three. Keegan 06:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey! Got another question

I've been reverting vandalism and its been going well. I got another question, whats with the "mark edit as patrolled" link on pages? It isn't visible in recent changes so I don't really know what it does. Can only admins see patrolled edits or something? Thanks :) GNRY09 07:40, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Could you have a look at Sadbuttrue92 (talk · contribs)'s actions? He doesn't seem to talk as much as we agreed Thank you!--Michael X the White (talk) 07:59, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Random

Internet Explorer rules D:. Blooded Edge 18:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

FYI: SonofFeanor

As the admin who dealt with my previous WP:3RR report I thought I'd drop you a note to inform you SonofFeanor (talk · contribs) is still using IPs to circumvent WP:3RR. See my latest report here for details. PS: I also have a WP:RFPP languishing that I would love you to look at it if you have the inclination. Thanks, Yilloslime (t) 23:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Just a heads-up - it continues. See . Semiprotection, temporarily, would be a useful option till the socking calms down. Personally, I think a block would be in order at this point, but I'll leave that up to you. I'm involved in editing the article so have no intention of taking administrative action, but just thought I'd follow up on Yilloslime's concern. MastCell  04:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Arnoldo Aleman

Master of Puppets, please see the discussion page of the "Arnoldo Aleman" for my perspective on the edit war situation. The user Brusegadi is trying to portray the situation as other than it is. I'm not asking for you to unblock the page or take a side; just to read my perspective. The section on the discussion page is titled, "The Trashing of Arnoldo Aleman". Thank you! Spartanad (talk) 04:41, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

{{tb}}

Manually adding tb - Twinkle's busted! -_-' —La Pianista  04:14, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Heh heh heh...*maliciously rubs palms together*...I am going to pollute this talk page with more TBs. Moar and moar! —La Pianista  04:38, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Notice of request for deletion of editor Master of Puppets :)

Master of Puppets, the editor you are, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that you satisfy Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space. Your opinions on yourself are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at User:GlassCobra/Editor for deletion#Master of Puppets and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit during the discussion but should not remove the nomination (unless you wish not to participate); such removal will not end the deletion discussion (actually it will). Thank you, and have a good sense of humor :). —La Pianista  04:50, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: AIV reports and the such

Thanks for the message you dropped me. Yeah I thought there would be a problem with the fact that they might be shared IP addresses, but hey, the IP vandal template was there, so I thought I might add one for the first time, seeing as I'm now taking a less tolerant approach towards vandalism. I'll try and report registered users this time, and if the situation requires it, maybe a couple of IP's. (If they're not shared by a school/organization.) Was the IP I added shared to a school or organization? If it was I apologize -- I didn't realize at the time :D. Thanks anyway. --SamB135_Contribs 08:39, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: WP:AN/Edit_warring

It at first appeared that there may have been a change of heart on the part of the other editors, but nothing real came of it.

I request that you intervene, and roll back the article to August 25, 2008 Ukufwakfgr (talk) 06:22, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I request that there be no intervention at this time. Discussion is ongoing at the talk page, and at least one of Uku's concerns has already received consensus and been incorporated into the article.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:50, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I can't support or denounce any revision, as that would be taking a side. I'm glad there's consensus being developed on the talk page, though. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :D} 04:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

After my edit was reverted, WegianWarrior rolled it back to that revision. Things seem to be picking up, so thanks a lot for your time and consideration, and for being practically the only admin not to choose sides. Ukufwakfgr (talk) 01:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Adoption Center

Why haven't you updated the page? Raiku Lucifer Samiyaza 19:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Lo? Raiku Lucifer Samiyaza 21:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Goodbye.

As per my userpage, I am leaving. Goodbye. Raiku Lucifer Samiyaza 03:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Loretta Kelsey deletion

Hi there,

Wondering about the deletion of the Loretta Kelsey stub; the notability is that she's the last speaker of a language. There are multiple similar articles whose notability is based on that fact, wondering if there's a specific reason why this one was speedy'd? There are plenty of news articles about her. (If I recall correctly, I put the citations in the article.)

Thanks for your consideration,

babbage (talk) 04:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Pragma Systems - revised

Master of Puppets - good luck with your calling!

I've updated the Pragma offering and wanted to run this by you - and I'm still not sure I understand the 'how to's associated with citations and 'how to' get this live and posted.

I look forward to your comments and thoughts.

Many thanks in advance,

Andrew Tull

Pragma Systems Pragma Systems is a privately held corporation with headquarters located in Austin, Texas. The organization was founded in 1990 by David Kulwin and Quamrul Mina, with the intent and focus to design, develop and port networking software for Fortune 500 companies. In a short period of time, companies like IBM, Tandem, and Tivoli became customers. The organization's focus on customer service and providing customized and extensible solutions has provided the foundation for the reputation of reliability associated with Pragma Systems In 1995, Pragma started developing industrial grade software for the emerging 32-bit Windows NT platform. From that point on, Pragma has delivered products and services focused on Windows 2008/Vista/2003/XP/2000 operating systems. In the summer of 2006, the company continued its focus on technical innovation, and was the first in the secure connectivity segment to announce products built on the 64-bit platform. Pragma's software is deployed in the majority of Fortune 500 companies in the USA and over 2100 companies worldwide in over 62 countries. The company’s clients include banks and financial institutions, U.S. and international universities, telecommunications companies, internet service providers, foreign government agencies, computer hardware manufacturers, real estate, software companies, aerospace, hotels, supermarkets, retailers and many others. Our customers include: Target, McKesson, Food Lion, Micron, Dell, Intel, IBM, NTT, Sony, Coca-Cola, Symbol, Daimler Benz, Boeing, HP, Siemens, Motorola, Bank of America, Bank BNP-Paribas, Barclays Bank, IMF, Unilever, Woolworth Australia, Sogei Italy, SchlumbergerSema and Reynolds Aluminum. Pragma's products have won top awards in the industry such as PC Week Analyst's Choice and NSTL's best in class rating. Pragma has also been recognized by Microsoft as a top 75 fastest growing Windows Independent Software Vendor. The company’s technology partnerships continue our reputation for 'best in class', ranging from Computer Associates to Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Intel and Motorola.

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About some photos

I took a look on this page http://en.wikipedia.org/2008_Greece_riots and I noticed the photos I clicked on them and I found out that you have not mention the photographer or the site that you picked them from Instead I saw this:

Source Own work by uploader

Author Master of Puppets

That is for the photos Are they yours? Are you my friend J@ne? If not please give her the credit for her work

I'll be back tomorrow for an answer

Have a nice time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefanos.kal (talk • contribs) 11:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

According to Misplaced Pages:Captions#Credit the murplej@ne credit in the file notes should be sufficient.LeadSongDog (talk) 18:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello again!

Hi, MoP! I've got a problem. About a year ago, I emptied my monobook, but I still get popups. Can you help me? I wish you all the best in becoming a journalist (I have aspirations to become one too). Basketball110 /_{Tell me yours} 16:53, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

rfar you might want to help with

Hi, a dispute where your name has come up a few times is now at RFAR. Maybe you can provide some advice? John Vandenberg 09:12, 2 March 2009 (UTC)