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==Purpose of consensus== ==Purpose of consensus==
"Consensus" among a small number of editors can never override the community consensus that is presented in ]; instead, consensus is the main tool for enforcing these standards. The focus of every dispute should be determining how best to comply with the relevant policies and guidelines. Editors have reached consensus when they agree that they have ] applied Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, not when they personally like the outcome. Consensus is the main tool for enforcing ]. The focus of every dispute should be determining how best to comply with the relevant policies and guidelines. Editors have reached consensus when they agree that they have ] applied Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, not when they personally like the outcome.


== Reasonable consensus-building == == Reasonable consensus-building ==

Revision as of 15:16, 3 March 2009

This page documents an English Misplaced Pages policy.It describes a widely accepted standard that editors should normally follow, though exceptions may apply. Changes made to it should reflect consensus.Shortcuts
This page in a nutshell:
  • Consensus is about how editors work with others.
  • Consensus is Misplaced Pages's fundamental model for editorial decision-making.
  • Policies and guidelines document communal consensus rather than creating it.
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Consensus is part of a range of policies on how editors work with others, and part of the Fourth pillar of Misplaced Pages code of conduct. Editors typically reach a consensus as a natural and inherent product of wiki-editing; generally someone makes a change or addition to a page, and then everyone who reads the page has an opportunity to leave the page as it is or change it. Silence implies consent if there is adequate exposure to the community.

Level of consensus

Consensus among a limited group of editors, at one place and time, cannot override community consensus on a wider scale. In the case of policies and guidelines, Misplaced Pages expects a higher standard of participation and consensus than on other pages.

Purpose of consensus

Consensus is the main tool for enforcing Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. The focus of every dispute should be determining how best to comply with the relevant policies and guidelines. Editors have reached consensus when they agree that they have appropriately applied Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines, not when they personally like the outcome.

Reasonable consensus-building

Consensus develops from agreement of the parties involved. This can happen through discussion, editing, or more often, a combination of the two. Consensus can only work among reasonable editors who make a good faith effort to work together in a civil manner. Developing consensus requires special attention to neutrality - remaining neutral in our actions in an effort to reach a compromise that everyone can agree on.

Several processes can attract editors to resolve differences:

To ensure transparency, consensus cannot be formed except on Misplaced Pages discussion pages. "Off-wiki" discussions, such as those taking place on other websites, on web forums or on IRC, are not taken into account when determining consensus.

How consensus emerges during the editing process

When an edit is made, other editors have these options: accept the edit, change the edit, or revert the edit. These options may be discussed if necessary.
See also: Misplaced Pages:Editing policy

Someone edits a page, and then viewers of the page have three options: accept the edit, change the edit, or revert the edit. Articles go through many iterations of consensus to achieve a neutral and readable product. If other editors do not immediately accept your ideas, think of a reasonable change that might integrate your ideas with others and make an edit, or discuss those ideas. You can do this at the talk page, as an edit summary, or as a note to others at a user talk page or other widely read pages, such as the Village pump.

Edit summaries are useful, and should contain a summary of the change made to the article by the edit, or an explanation of why the editor made the change. A short summary is better than no summary. If the reason for an edit is not clear, editors are more likely to revert it, especially when someone inserts or deletes material. To give longer explanations, use the Talk page and put in the edit summary "see Talk".

Edit wars lead to page protection rather than improvements to the article.

Use of the talk page

See also: Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines

Be bold in editing; you can also use the talk page to discuss improvements to the article, and to form a consensus concerning the editing of the page. Misplaced Pages expects changes to policies and guidelines to achieve more participation and consensus than other pages. In cases where consensus is difficult, independent or more experienced editors may need to join the discussion. If edit wars or disruptive editing impede the editing of a page, or if consensus is impossible, formal dispute resolution is available.

Consensus can change

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Consensus is not immutable. Past decisions are open to challenge and are not binding, and one must realize that such changes are often reasonable.

Misplaced Pages remains flexible because new people may bring fresh ideas, growing may evolve new needs, people may change their minds over time when new things come up, and we may find a better way to do things.

A representative group may make a decision on behalf of the community as a whole. More often, people document changes to existing procedures at some arbitrary time after the fact. But in all these cases, nothing is permanently fixed. The world changes, and the wiki must change with it. It is reasonable and indeed often desirable to make further changes to things at a later date, even if the last change was years ago.

Participating in community discussions

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Consensus is a partnership between interested parties working positively for a common goal. —Jimbo Wales

Community discussion takes place on various pages: noticeboards such as at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents; or pages such as Requests for comment and Requests for arbitration. These require collaborative effort and considered input from their participants to form a consensus and act appropriately upon the consensus.

In determining consensus, consider the strength and quality of the arguments, including the evolution of final positions, the objections of those who disagree, and existing documentation in the project namespace if available. Minority opinions typically reflect genuine concerns, and their (strict) logic may outweigh the "logic" (point of view) of the majority. New users who are not yet familiar with consensus should realize that polls (if held) are often more likely to be the start of a discussion rather than the end of one. Editors decide outcomes during discussion.

Polls are structured discussions, not votes. Opinion has more weight when you provide a rationale during a poll, not just a vote. Convince others of your views, and give them a chance to convince you. Pure argumentativeness rarely convinces others.

Forum shopping

See also: Misplaced Pages:Forum shopping

Editors can easily create the appearance of a changing consensus by asking again and hoping that a different and more sympathetic group of people discusses the issue. This is a poor example of changing consensus, and is antithetical to the way that Misplaced Pages works. Misplaced Pages does not base its decisions on the number of people who show up and vote; we work on a system of good reasons.

Exceptions

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Some exceptions supersede consensus decisions on a page.

  • Declarations from Jimmy Wales, the Board, or the Developers, particularly for copyright, legal issues, or server load, have policy status (see Misplaced Pages:Policies and guidelines#Sources of Misplaced Pages policy).
  • Office Actions are outside the policies of the English Misplaced Pages.
  • Consensus decisions in specific cases do not automatically override consensus on a wider scale - for instance, a local debate on a WikiProject does not override the larger consensus behind a policy or guideline. The WikiProject cannot decide that for the articles within its scope, some policy does not apply, unless they can convince the broader community that doing so is right.
  • Foundation Issues lay out the basic principles for all Wikimedia projects. These represent the consensus decisions achievable among all Wikimedia projects, and affect all of them.

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