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There seems to be some progress being made towards redrafting the guideline. Most of the arguments for a permissive guideline seem to have been countered in the sense that they have been found not to be viable. My attempts to obtain a compromise earlier this year seem to be leading towards a slightly stricter applciation of ] for fiction that should discourage topics which are only the subject of in universe plot summary, trivia and cruft. A recent post at ] seems to make this clear. Can you provide some cool and clear support towards drafting a compromise that is compliant with existing Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines? --] (]) 19:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

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Hello and welcome to my talk page. I'll respond to your comments here, unless you ask me to reply on your talk page. Reyk 23:19, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Three-pronged test for Elements of Fiction

I have drafted a revsion to WP:FICT that may address some of your concerns. I would be grateful for your views at WT:FICT#Three-pronged test for Elements of Fiction. --Gavin Collins (talk) 00:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

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243 Ida

We're very close to being ready to start writing this article. I was wondering if you might be up for an intensive wiki-thon at some point in the next week or so where we would write the whole thing in one swell foop. I can block out about four hours for it. Wronkiew (talk) 07:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm extraordinarily busy in RL at the moment, don't know if I'll be able to put aside four hours but I will try to put in some work on Thursday and Friday night. Reyk YO! 09:17, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Cool. If you can make some headway on it then I'll do some writing this weekend, hopefully enough to satisfy the DYK criteria. If you don't have time right now, I understand. Wronkiew (talk) 08:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
Also I was thinking that we could work on it in article space, as long as we can substantially finish writing it in the next five days. Wronkiew (talk) 16:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
I have my doubts if it can be finished that quickly. Reyk YO! 21:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
Alright then, we write it on the collaboration page. I'll call dibs on sections I want to write before I start working on them, so we don't duplicate work. After we're done writing, we each move the sections that we wrote over to article space. Does this sound okay? I'm glad that the end is in sight. The article is going to be spectacular! Wronkiew (talk) 05:27, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure, sounds good. I'm also very optimistic about how this article is going to turn out. Reyk YO! 06:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

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Ida notes

If you wouldn't mind, can you leave the notes in place? It'll help later if we need to change things in response to reviews. Wronkiew (talk) 07:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, it looks like you were right. This is going to take longer to write than I thought. I'm going to get some sleep now. Great work so far. Wronkiew (talk) 08:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Meh. My Crater section is a bit of a dog's breakfast. I struggle to write prose well, especially if the information is a lot of random facts that are hard to organize into a cohesive whole. I'll have another look at it tomorrow. Reyk YO! 08:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Hi, sorry I haven't been making progress on the article recently. I have to finish up a long-neglected GA review, and then I'll be back to writing. Wronkiew (talk) 06:47, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

  • That's OK. I've had stuff in real life to deal with so I haven't always been around myself. Anyway, there's no deadline and I'm still very confident in how this thing's going to turn out. Reyk YO! 11:42, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I had some random thoughts about the article. Almost all the sections are done except for a bunch of the Dactyl ones. We could just write a summary of it for the DYK stage, and then flesh it out afterwards. I'm a little worried that if we pull in the Dactyl article now, we'll have to do a 5x expansion of that material as well. Also, with only two sections plus the summary left to go, we could move it into article space this weekend! The other thing is that the copy of the original article is just taking up space on the (bloated) workpage, so I think I'm going to delete it. Wronkiew (talk) 07:32, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

  • I think we're going to need the Dactyl stuff to meet the 5x expansion. I've been keeping a little tally: the original article contains 654 words, so for a fivefold expansion the final version needs to be 3270 words or more. Currently we're at about 2250 (70% of what we need), and that's including all the Dactyl material. I do agree though about having the current article in the workpage- I've got rid of it. Reyk YO! 08:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

How's our word count now? Wronkiew (talk) 06:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Move to article space on Friday? Wronkiew (talk) 05:47, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Interstellar comet

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Regarding this

Please note that sources do attest to its notability, i.e. "the story most familiar with US audiences" and that is verifiable in published books. Best, --A Nobody 22:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Notability (Fiction)

There seems to be some progress being made towards redrafting the guideline. Most of the arguments for a permissive guideline seem to have been countered in the sense that they have been found not to be viable. My attempts to obtain a compromise earlier this year seem to be leading towards a slightly stricter applciation of WP:V for fiction that should discourage topics which are only the subject of in universe plot summary, trivia and cruft. A recent post at WT:FICT#The rules seems to make this clear. Can you provide some cool and clear support towards drafting a compromise that is compliant with existing Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines? --Gavin Collins (talk) 19:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)