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Nottingham Forest, Houston

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Subject does not appear to be notable, as a subsection of an undistinguished suburban housing subdivision Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. -- fr33kman -s- 15:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

• Delete. Non-notable neighborhood. Being on a list of most expensive neighborhoods in the city is not enough to establish notability. The article even frequently mentions "just like other neighborhoods in the area". Karanacs (talk) 15:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

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• Delete - not notable, Misplaced Pages is not a directory. Precedent from WP:OUTCOMES#Places is that "Smaller suburbs should generally be listed under the primary city article, except when they consist of legally separate municipalities or communes (e.g., having their own governments)." JohnCD (talk) 12:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
• Keep I don't think WP:N is clear on places; I can't see the harm. --  Chzz  ►  13:46, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

• See WP:NOHARM JohnCD (talk) 14:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

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• Comment Nottingham Forest, Houston is notable, it's even listed at the USGS as a populated place: see U.S. Geological Survey Geographic Names Information System: Articles for deletion/Nottingham Forest, Houston. This article is about phase VIII of the neighborhood and phase VIII has no independent notability. This should be re-written for the entire neighborhood and then kept - or deleted and redone as an article on the whole neighborhood. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 02:36, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Generally I lean towards agreement with you that this has more of a chance of being notable if the article is rewritten to include all of Nottingham Forest, but I wonder about your assumption that USGS noting the existence of the entire neighborhood making it notabile. Elementary schools are included on USGS topo maps, but we all know that elementary schools are not generally notable. Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

• Rewrite - I agree with the above comment - the article should be rewritten to accommodate all the Nottingham Forest subdivisions. — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 05:40, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

See JohnCD's comment - the precedent seems pretty clear that even all of Nottingham Forest would not be notable enough to merit its own article. Perhaps "Memorial Area, Houston" would be encompassing enough to be notable.Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

• Keep informative article, I do not see why this is even here at AfD.Rewrite- See commment made by Mmyers1976. §hawnpoo 05:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Informative to whom? Other than the people living in Nottingham Forest, Section VIII, I can't see how it could be of any interest to anyone. Furthermore, read WP:GNG. In order for a subject to be notable, it has to have received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources "address the subject directly in detail and no original research is needed to extract the content." That is not the case for Nottingham Forest Section VIII - there is not a singlereference in the whole article which directly addresses Nottingham Forest Section VIII. Also, see precedent from WP:OUTCOMES#Places : "Smaller suburbs should generally be listed under the primary city article, except when they consist of legally separate municipalities or communes (e.g., having their own governments)." NF Sec. VIII is not a legally separate municipality. It isn't even its own municipal utility district. That is why this article is here at AfD. Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

• Rewrite I just moved to this neighborhood and found this article useful. I'd like to see the entry brought up to standard and saved. Stephenpace (talk) 15:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

See JohnCD's comment - the precedent seems pretty clear that even all of Nottingham Forest would not be notable enough to merit its own article. Perhaps "Memorial Area, Houston" would be encompassing enough to be notable.Mmyers1976 (talk) 14:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

• Keep/Rewrite This article could certainly be expanded to cover Nottingham Forest and such an article would be an asset to Misplaced Pages's coverage of Neighborhoods in Houston, Texas.
  Mmyers1976— I suggest you read WP:POINT
  Closing admin, note bias
  --Tothwolf (talk) 15:20, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

I did not do anything to disrupt wikipedia, nor did I attempt to do so in order to prove a point. I suggest you read WP:AGF. Also, bringing up already deleted comments of mine from my own User Page which I have changed my mind about (hence the deletion) in an attempt to discredit me is poor form. I respectfully but firmly request that you edit your above comment to make it more neutral, stick to the issue at hand, and leave personalities out of it.Mmyers1976 (talk) 15:32, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

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