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:::::::::: and entry in Reliable Sources Noticeboard are "inconclusive". The argument that it's not RS because its "a fee based publishing system" does not hold water ] (]) 03:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::: and entry in Reliable Sources Noticeboard are "inconclusive". The argument that it's not RS because its "a fee based publishing system" does not hold water ] (]) 03:43, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::]...how surprising...lets see them get it published in a real journal. I got a bridge to sell ya.--] 04:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::]...how surprising...lets see them get it published in a real journal. I got a bridge to sell ya.--] 04:22, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
:::::::::::Jones and co can maybe see if any of --] 04:28, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
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It's a respectable source, which states that it has found unignited nano-thermite inside building remains. This should be added to the article. I intentionally don't place this with the consp. theories, because it's a fact now. Whatever purpose it was, that's something for the consp. theories maybe. Marminnetje (talk) 17:24, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
No one is going to sort through years of archives of discussion pages to find what you are talking about. You have not shown any evidence that the Bentham Open Journals do not have a proper peer review process, nor do you define what constitutes a proper or improper process. Please either reference a specific page with the discussion or repost the basic evidence for improper review. bov (talk) 02:29, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Conspiracy theorists? Why do you people think you have a right to put libel on these scientists? Source is reliable; it was carried by Raw Story, who is also reliable. In the terminology you folks use here, put up or shut up already. Huntdowntheconpiracists (talk) 15:52, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
YouTube is not a reliable source and I cannot read Danish. Anyway, there are plenty of English reliable sources so there's no need to resort to foreign language articles. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 13:48, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
No but YouTube is just a media, the source is TV_2_(Denmark). Just like Misplaced Pages is a media and thats why the contents should be properly sourced. Just because you can't read Danish doesn't mean that Politiken is not a reliable newspaper :). No matter how little danish you can read the status of Politiken as a newspaer is unchanged. If we had to only use sources from language we understod, we couldn't make many articles here could we? CallmeMads (talk) 14:39, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
"No but YouTube is just a media, the source is TV2." Irrelevent. Since anyone could have uploaded the video, they could have altered it. This has been discussed numerous times on Misplaced Pages. Sorry, it doesn't qualify. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 16:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone else seen this video and article? It's kind of weird to think that the conspiracy theorist were right but now they have the scientific evidence to back up the explosion theories.They have found both ignited and non ignited nano-thermite and say there could have been anywhere from 10-100 tons of this in the WTC buildings to bring them down. They concluded it was not the planes that brought the buildings down but these secondary explosives that the govt swore did not exist. I wonder why we have heard nothing about this in the states but it's going all over the other countries...
The Danish are taking this seriously like any independent news media should:
"911blogger"...that speaks for itself...odd...not a SINGLE news media has picked up this truly incredible finding...I mean, not even the BBC...not Reuters, not AP...none of them...Dr. Niels H. Harrit appears to have coauthored the piece with dismissed BYU professor Steven Jones...I can't find this info in any reliable source......instead, it is only found via CT websites like PrisonPlanet...man, one would think that some reliable source would want to report this finding! Instead, these guys had to pay 800 bucks I suppose to get their "research" published...beware a priori "scientists"....especially those that have been forced out by their universities (as has Jones) due to their wacky beliefs...it will fun watching this unravel after a proper explanation is provided.--MONGO01:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Reliable news outlets will be tripping over each other to scoop this story if there is any veracity. Why don't we wait for them to publish it? That's what WP:V requires us to do. Jehochman02:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
In addition to the Danish news Deseret News an American Newspaper has also reported on this. they may not have the circulation of the New york times they are a reliable source. It's interesting that that not a SINGLE News media has picked up this finding MULTIPLE entities have. I would love to see the new york times pick up this item but I don't think we have to wait for them either. Yes it is fun watching Tony0937 (talk) 02:25, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
I assure you that anything verifiable would immediately be picked up by major press outlets. If you want news about Podunk, you can use the Podunk Times as a source. If you want a source for events in New York City, you should not be using the Podunk Times. Jehochman02:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, Deseret News qualifies...and it does report what (as they latter clarify on page two that Jones was "Essentially forced to retire"...wonder why) Jones and his buddies have done with their a priori research...so, as I tried to indicate, maybe this incredible find will soon be validated by non biased, non CT believing scientists that haven't been forced to retire. But here's the real fools gold...just think about it...the only way to cover up the use of thermite is to fly planes into the buildings...sure...that makes so much sense...lets cover up one massive conspiracy with an one that is infinitely more massive. I'm hoping that a real scientific journal will publish Dr. Niels H. Harrit and Jones's paper...now we have hope! Yup...I can see it now...there's the U.S. Government, masters of little...surely if they can coverup the manned mission to the moon, the Easter Island monoliths and Cydonia (region of Mars) they can coverup what really really really happened on 9/11.--MONGO03:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
It's a fee based publishing system...the hope is that if an article gets in there, a reputable entity might wish to publish it...one that has credentials to worry about.--MONGO03:07, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Some journals depend on financing through libraries, some depend on direct subsidies. Others depend on advertising. This one is financed by those who publish there, and in this case, the fees have, according to the authors, been paid by their respective institutions. That's why it is called an open journal. Regardless of financing, any journal would be wary to publish anything that would be bogus or easy to refute, because neither libraries not other authors would pay for a journal that publishes bogus research. Please have a look a the CV of the editor-in-chief of the journal, Prof. Marie-Paule Pileni. --Cs32en (talk) 03:37, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
