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lots of edits, not an admin

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:38, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Even better PLC map

Could you create a more detailed Image:Rzeczpospolita voivodships.png, with as many details as the map in Dzikie Pola 2nd edition? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 12:23, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Mapy znowu

Polish-Muscovy War (1605-1618) approaches FAC and I'd love to have some map before that. I think your basic map of Commwealth with locations and dates of main battles would be sufficient. Can you do it? Btw, you may find this page of mine of interest: . --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 10:23, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Zaznacz tyle, na ile masz czasu. Idealnie, osobne mapki i jedna zbiorcza bylaby najlepsza, ale zrobisz tyle, na ile masz czas. Nie kojarze nazw 'Carowo Zajmiszcze' i 'Nowodziewicze Pola', ale poszukam - tylko daj mi znac jaki to byl konflikt :) Aha, z twojego starego campaignboxa o Dymitriadach usunałem Humienno i Sasowy Róg - to były bitwy kamapnii Mołdawskiej (Moldavian Magnate Wars). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 13:37, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

If we can't find the info, perhaps we can ask our Russian friends from the Misplaced Pages:Wikiportal/Russia/Russia-related Misplaced Pages notice board for help? They should know Russia geography better then we. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 16:27, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Juz sie slinie :) Legende przesunalbym gdzies indziej, by Moskwe bylo dobrze widac. Nie moge znalezc zadnej mapki online Dymitriad, ale ide przeszukac atlasy i takie tam :) Jak cos znajde, zeskanuje i podesle ci. A mapka DP piekna jest, zaprawde :) Chocby dla niej warto podrecznik kupic :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 20:59, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

As I hoped, we can have help here. User:KNewman offered to find those places, and indeed, he found where Tsarovo is. See User_talk:Piotrus#Your_request_for_help and Misplaced Pages:Wikiportal/Russia/Russia-related_Wikipedia_notice_board#Polish-Muscovy_War_.281605-1618.29  :) Just ask them for all other places you are not sure, and we should have data for great map soon :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 10:33, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Zobacz Image:Polen 1921-1939.png i Image:Polen Galizien Wolhynien.png. Gosciu - chyba Niemiec robiacy mapki na niemiecka wiki - on chyba nie wie o twoich mapkach. Moze mozecie sobie wzajemnie pomoc w robieniu mapek, no i nie duplikowac swojej pracy. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 13:52, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Ukraina i poludnie sa dosc malo wazne dla Dymitriad. Albo po prostu wypchnac legende na jakis bok i tym samym rozszerzyc format mapki. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 15:50, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Found a printed (but in English) atlas, ed. Czapliński i Ładogórski ~1980. Zeskanuje i wysle ci wkrotce co sie da, niestety, nie miesci sie do mojego skanera. Goraco polecam jesli jeszcze nie masz! Na zbiorczej mapie jest tez mapa wojny 1609-1612, widze Tsarovo, Mozhajsk i inne bitwy :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:29, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Any chance for a map of the Polish-Muscovy War? It is one of two things I think this article needs before it can be FACed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:55, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Template talk:Infobox Biography

I'm having some issues on John Vanbrugh. People keep removing the infobox! I think it's quite useful as it does take some hunting to find information about birth places, birth dates and death dates/places in many of the articles. Could you comment on the talk page? - Ta bu shi da yu 02:53, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

:Image:

Czy mozesz mi dać komment na zdieć. Czy musze nazywać jako "fair use" według czebie?

Mozzerati 18:15, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Could you help?

Dear Halibutt, I have an edit war with Irpen concerning Polish names of Ukrainian cities. I find it usefull, if the names of city in all related languages are listed on the first raw of the paper. It's quit reasonable to include Polish names of Ukrainian cities. (No political reasons, just a matter of convenience and completeness of the information). Now I am approaching 3RR. Could you please help me and revert Chernihiv and Kiev articles, unless Polish name is there?

May be we can do something togrthere againsr Irpen's destructive activity?

Regards,--AndriyK 23:06, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

I would be interested to see Halibutt's response. In fact this was discussed and a near consensus was reached that Polish names should be used in articles about all Ukrainian cities that have place in the Polish history. In many cases they belong to the history of the city part of the article (like Voivodship name). In some cases the Polish names should also be given in the first line. This should be used for the cities, whose Polish name may be found in the English literature, not just in Polish. The most notable is Lviv where Polish name is warranted. It is also warranted for Kamianets-Podilskyi, but that article has a separate paragraph about names and a Polish name is moved there for purely stillistical purposes. In similar fasion, Russian "Varshava" or "Belostok" don't belong to the first line of these articles but perhaps could be used in the history. This was discussed and Halibutt knows the appropriate talk pages. Should we resume this discussion? --Irpen 23:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Dear Halibutt, I'd suggest you do not discuss with Irpen anything anymore. I tried, but it does not help, unfortunatelly. We have to find another way to newtralize her/his distructive activity.--AndriyK 23:27, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Mapka Dymitriady beta

Super :) Przydał yby się strzałki - szlaczki, i daty bitew. Moze trzy-cztery rodzaje (kolory?) szlaczkostrzałków dla odpowiednich podkampanii (1dym, 2dym, wojna 1609-1612, wojna 1616-17). Aha, zerknij tez na talk artykułu - wyguglałem gdzieś jeszcze z trzy miejsca, które moglby być warte naniesienia - gdyby ktoś to potwierdził :) Jak tylko będzie mapka, nominuje artykul do FACa :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:56, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

O przycięciu też myślałem, dobry pomysł. I faktycznie, najlepiej przyjąć granice sprzed Dywilna, zazanczyć zmiany terytorialne z dywilna jakims polski-ruskimi kreskami (zielono-rózowe), i darować sobie kreski/odcinenie na innych obszarach. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:02, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Treaty of Dywilino + mapka z Dzikich Pól (skan na mojej stronie) powinny dać odpowiedź :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:22, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Map skills

Halibutt, I know you have a rep for map making. I was wondering if there is any chance you could potentially do a GPL version of the Image:GhettosinPoland.gif (right), perhaps even combined with Image:Massdeportations.gif, or other information that might be useful. It would be very useful for the FA candidacy of History of the Jews in Poland, and potentially elsewhere as well. If you don't have time, that is fine, but I thought I would ask. --Goodoldpolonius2 01:43, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you :) . I will ask you for your support if needed e.g. some sources or references or more information as you seem to know baout Central European history more than me Knyaz 08:37, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

partition of poland map

your map of the first partition of Poland is somewhat incorrect. It shows that Silesia still belongs to Austria, but Prussia had already conquered Silesia years before.

Also it would be helpful if you put all the place names in English, rather then just some then the rest in Polish

Czy świadomie podałeś datę sierpniową przy głosowaniu o usunięcie przekierownia, chyba że czegoś nie zrozumiałem ?

we're on the english wikipedia here, hence the en. start on the URL, so we type in english here mate, aight? keep the polski to the Polish wikipedia, no one here cares what something says in Polish, or else we'd go on the Polish Misplaced Pages.

I certainly don't mind Polish on talk pages, but the original poster is correct in that this map does present Silesia in Austria, not Prussia. Olessi 05:22, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

the same with the 2nd paritition of Poland map, Silesia is shown In Austria rather then Prussia

Wieluń

Hello Halibutt, I was hoping you have access to texts that state that the bombing of Wieluń was terror bombing. User Tobias R recently recently cited a source in that article that says it was "strategic" bombing. ] 14:12, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Nominacja na admina

Co ty na to? Gotowy? Wiesz, to daje calkeim fajne narzedzia (rollback, view deleted pages...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:25, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

To cie nominuje jak tylko naprawisz sobie sygnaturke - cos sie sypnelo z html-em. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 05:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Admin nomin

Trzymam kciuki. Don't forget to strike yourself out once you accept, and that self-advertisement is common outside Poland, so don't hesitate to ask for support. Besides, the more vote, the greater the legitimacy of the vote. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 05:56, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Zasłużyłeś na to stanowisko! logologist 08:44, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Jasne, reklamuj sie, wiele osob tak robi. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 15:38, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, it is going worse then I thought in terms of numbers, but if the quantity is not that good, quality certainly is. You have attracted support from many respectable users, and that counts. I find it telling that many opposers don't know you, but vote so because they follow some friend :/ You may want to consider deletion of the Black Book - seems that it has become the 'skeleton in the closet', doing no good, only damage (you know, this was the reason I didn't want to 'take it' myself - it diseases everyone it touches). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 06:02, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Nationalism

I did not mean you are a nationalist in a modern sense, but, to me, you did exhibit nationalistic tendencies in Misplaced Pages when dealing with historical interpretations. The comment of mine was triggered by the discussions at Talk:Kiev Offensive (1920) and Talk:Battle of Wołodarka (I can probably dig up more, but these two are quite illustrative, I think). Perhaps this would not be so obvious to other voters, and perhaps most of them would not give it as much weight as I did, but to me it is a big deal, so, sorry, I cannot support you. I do, however, believe, that in other regards you would make a decent admin—the breadth and depth of your contributions speak for themselves. With all that in mind, good luck in your RfA.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 15:42, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

The sort of conclusions you drew from the sources provided did not really seem obvious or logical. Granted, those particular sources could have been interpreted in more than one way, but you chose one that presents information in a more controversial (and indicative of nationalism) way. To me, this is a somewhat distrurbing sign.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 16:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

RFA?

Thanks for your response. By "aggravating disputes" I was not referring to your responses in the RFA itself; rather, judging by the responses of others you seem to have made yourself quite a few opponents in editing nationalistic topics. Of course that may not in fact be your fault given the emotional value of such topics. I'll think on that some more. In the meantime, though, from the history of the Black Book it seems that you are in fact its author. Or did I miss something here? Radiant_>|< 00:11, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Heya

I just wanted to pop you an email to let you know why I voted Neutral on your RFA. I really don't know you too well as I haven't been working on the same articles as yourself so can't really tell how you would make as an Admin. However, you seem like a pretty valuable and fantastic editor of Misplaced Pages! So I'd probably side more with support than oppose on my neutral - it's also helps that Pioritus nominated you as he's a good judge of character. Also, I don't have a concern with people campaigning on their user page for RFA - I feel that this is a bit of a storm in a teacup. Anyway, just wanted you to know why I voted neutral. - Ta bu shi da yu 01:26, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

DeirYassin

I believe he is taking English wikivacation. The last time I checked, he was pretty active on Lithuanian WP. He said he is pretty stressed about the whole Polish-Lithuanian edit war.

Also, I am sorry, but I voted oppose on your RfA. I just feel that it would add additional fuels to the debates. I think you are a pretty calm person, but you have a very strong bias. And admins should be as objective as possible. I hope you won't be discouraged to contribute. 15,000 edits is REALLY seriously impressive. And I hope to see you around. Renata3 03:03, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

I mean you are an intelligent guy, dilligent, you are proud of your country and that is just perfectly normal thing. However, the biggest issue I had with you is that sometimes you are quite stuborn. Like naming Vilnia - Wilno - Vilnius. You said that Gdansk votes are applicable and just refused to listen to anything else. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, I have my own. But as an admin you should be able to listen to different sides and arrive to some sort of compromise. But I should say that you are very polite guy (which is really a HUGE benefit for you and that's why I respect you). It goes without saying that I respect your contributions.

Sorry for my spelling, it's almost 11pm here... Feel free to leave me a message. Renata3 03:24, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Well, I did not get too much involved with the whole edit/naming war. I usually have no time/patience follow through such arguments. And history in general is not my strongest area. But I remember very well you saying that you are going to enforce Gdansk vote and you repeated that like 3 times without listening to others. Maybe later I dig out the difs.

But it feels like ancient history now. I don't think we should start the whole mess again. Let's be friends :)

As for your contributions. I think you deserve a barnstar, a whole bunch of them, and then a monument. But I just cannot vote yes for your adminship. Let those talks and discussions be just 5% of your overall contributions here, but I cannot vote yes, because they exist. If you would ask me to vote for an WP:FA - gladly (provided it meats criteria), to provide you sources - gladly (if I have them; this pdf is for your Ethnic composition of Central Lithuania), to help you out - my pleasure. But I just cannot vote for your RfA. Sorry. Renata3 05:38, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Your RfA

Well, you're welcome. You said Only those who do nothing are not controversial, and you're absolutely right. I now think that my comment seems a bit uncalled-for, and I shall edit it out. --Merovingian 05:41, 17 November 2005 (UTC)