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Sponge

Thanks for reviewing Sponge - I blinked and missed the review! --Philcha (talk) 19:43, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Deleted image

555 17:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

North American river otter

I wonder if you have seen the message on User talk:Steven Walling? The nominator's tutor is asking that it being given more time rather than quick-failed - is it worth suggesting that it's withdrawn from GAN until the major issues with formatting, uncited sections etc and content are addressed? your call of course, jimfbleak (talk) 15:54, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, sir, you have dialed a wrong number. I have no connection with that article whatsoever. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 17:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see what happened here - all is clear now jimfbleak (talk) 06:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Mayer–Vietoris sequence article

About a week ago, you left your opinion about the article. May I ask you give it another read? I'm interested in your opinion now that I've tried to make it more accessible. Best, GeometryGirl (talk) 16:22, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for helping out with obesity hypoventilation syndrome. I suspect your work has greatly benefited the readability of the article. JFW | T@lk 20:21, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments on my page!--Jasminekellis21 (talk) 19:27, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

I'm not all that familiar with the system so there will be some problems with my edits for a while. Hopefully not for a long while.Rvfrolov (talk) 22:03, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Lateral Computing

Regarding your comments on Lateral Computing page I created recently: The term Lateral Computing has been accepted by IEEE Transactions and also two international Conferences have been held in 2004 and 2005. The WCLC 2004 and WCLC 2005 saw the participation by several leading researchers from US, India, Australia. ( To name a few: Prof P.R. Kumar UIUC,USA, Dr Anil Thakoor, NASA USA, Prof Sargur Srihari , New York etc). A Review paper on Lateral Computing was presented in HiPC ( International Conference on High Performance Computing). I think we need to dessiminate information on Lateral Computing, as similar pages exist for computing topics such as Grid Computing, Parallel Computing etc. I advice you not to delete the page as we keep improving the Lateral Computing page in coming weeks. Suthikshn.kumar (talk) 04:19, 6 January 2009 (UTC)Suthikshn Kumar

Conferences are not reviewed, and conference presentations are often of low quality, as I know from experience. I would be much happier if you could point to at least one high-quality journal publication or book where the term is used. IEEE Trans might be okay -- what is the reference for that? Regards, Looie496 (talk) 18:21, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

OK, The term "Lateral Computing" with definition was introduced in my paper "A Review of Smart Volume Controllers for Consumer Electronics", IEEE Transactions on Consumer Electronics, Vol 51, No.2, May 2005, pp. 600-605. I also am editor of International Journal of Lateral Computing. We have brought out several issues. It has ISSN 0973-208X. Suthikshn.kumar (talk) 16:35, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Medical weight loss

This is a legitimate article on a topic that is of growing interest to the general public. Dr. Sasse is an expert on this particular topic and a deserving reference for the article. It was created in strict adherence to wikipedia's guidelines and its references are all thoroughly researched. You seem to be objecting to the possible motivation for the article rather than the article itself. --Infofreq (talk) 01:47, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOR, WP:PSTS

I happen to agree with your recent addition to the policy. Among other things, you are absolutely correct when you point out that many who are taught to do scholarly work dependent on primary-source research are dealing with something that's rather the opposite here in WP. IMO, your explanation was well tuned to a fairly common problem on the wiki. Unfortunately, as you may already have discerned, your excellent expression of the situation was just too much to include in the body text of the policy. ... Kenosis (talk) 04:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

DPD

Is anyone still working on that GAN? I have the impression it was a "fire and forget" nomination (and it's not the first one of that kind I've seen). Xasodfuih (talk) 15:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:FAC

At FAC, it is expected that opposing editors cite the featured article criteria. Thank you. –Juliancolton 21:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't see anything there about notability -- and yet I see that your own submissions of storm articles are careful to point out why they are especially notable. Why would you do that if it didn't matter? (Not trying to be trollish -- I just feel that FA's ought to be important and accessible regardless of what the criteria state, and I'm ready to be a bit of a gadfly to advocate for that. Since FA is not a vote, my opinions can always be ignored.) Regards, Looie496 (talk) 22:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Why do I point out the notability of a subject in its respective article? To meet WP:N. It has nothing to do with the FA criteria, as it has no limit as to how "notable" an article must be to attain featured status. Cheers, –Juliancolton 22:08, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking of your submission-notes at WP:FAC#Typhoon Tip and WP:FAC#Hurricane Linda (1997). Looie496 (talk) 22:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Well, it has nothing to do with the FA criteria; I just like to grab reviewers' attention in my nomination statements. Regards, –Juliancolton 22:19, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Horus and My Bad Reputation

A sidebar. The edit ban on me is on Acharya S, not on Egyptian Mythology.

So be uncomfortable all you like, and hey, maybe I cna be set before Arbitration again. We all know Im a fndamentlaist Christian Zealot who only edits to protect my view of what Christianity is, and Im ever so nasty to Acharya for makign threats.

The reason I left Wimipedia is because the plac eis crap. it allows bad informaiton to be propogate donlien and any attmeot to prevent this is edite dout. Peopel liek me are margionalised while peopel who want to propogandise, liek the CHrist Mythers, are allowed to do so. Hell, just because I am Christian Im seen as Biased on Misplaced Pages.

Still, if you agree with the edits why worry? My wuesitonable hisotry and bad repuitation boil down to me not wanting Wikipeida to be used as a platform for false informaiton ebcaue I know its used as an informaiton soruce for a lot of peope who accept hwat it says with no wuesiton.

I didnt want to threaten Acharya S as much as I needed to, because I've dealt with her sort obefore, as I explained. There can be no consensus until you compleltey agre with them and htey wont bakc down unless threatened.

I also dont troll Misplaced Pages tryogn to make sur emy narrow fundy views of CHristiantiy are supproted and I dont remove arguments ritical of CHristianity.

But come on! The whole "Jeuss was a stolen pagan god and these oher godmen had identical lvies" theory is bogus, and guess what? its provabley Bogus.

This isn't me defendign my faith, this is me statign the truth and not bakcign down and not willignto be maniulated or intmidated.

So I contest the arbitration.

Not that it matters, you lot wont listen to me over it, and I doutb this caneb reversed,and myr eputation si permenantly dmaaged here. All thanks to conspiracy theoriest who want to propogate hatred toward Chrstianity.

Still, I cna edit Egyptian Mythology if I like.

But hey, I dont expec tto be respected aroudn here or be given a fair second chance, to shwo Im not a nasty mean spirited CHristian who only edited to protect my faith and made vile criminal threats... I expect the reputation and arbitration to stand and to be a pariah.

But lets be reasonable for once, the whole Christ Myth theory is only added to these articles by those who want to undermine Christianity, and rmeovign it wss even supported by you. Im not beign unreasonable by sayign its all garbage, because it is, and Imnot goign abotu wikipeida damnign poepo to Hell for challenging the CHristian Faith.

All I ever asked ws that Wikipeida not submit tot he bullyign Acharya S is famous for in gettign her way, and fo this Ive been branded fo r life as "Questionable".

But lets let my work here stand alone shall we? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZAROVE (talk • contribs) 04:20, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Maximum spacing estimation

Hello. I added a sentence in the lede that shows some of the applications of the method via the literature in which it is discussed. As for your last point about the ties, I have sent a long e-mail to Dr. Cheng, but I am sure he is busy. Also, I did tweak the text to remove "true ties" and "as opposed to rounding" as that technically would be original research, even though I think that reading the papers and the theory makes it pretty clear. Is there anything else for which you would be looking before you make your final decision? Thank you. -- Avi (talk) 22:10, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I looked around a bit to see whether anybody has ever actually applied this method, and wasn't able to find very much. Two things actually, this unpublished paper about bison spatial distributions, and this paper about rainfall variability, which I can't download. The bison paper said that a publication would follow describing its methods, but as far as I can tell that did not happen. Anyway, on p 13 the paper says An alternative estimation technique was invented in the early 1980s called the Maximum spacing product (Cheng and Amin 1982; Ranneby 1984). This method was explicitly designed for boundary problems. This method has not been employed often, primarily because it is massively computational. The estimation is based on an optimization that at each step requires numerical integration. We implemented the algorithm on the Montana State University’s Center for Computational Biology thirty-two processor super computer, and were able to obtain results. A paper by Mark L. Taper and Brian Dennis describing these procedures in detail is in preparation. If this claim about the computational requirements of the algorithm is supported by other publications, I think it ought to be discussed in the article. Does this make sense? Looie496 (talk) 23:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

In general, I'm not certain how it is any more massively computational than maximum likelihood. I've done it in Excel without any code for distributions with built in functionality (or using EXP(GAMMALN())) and in R, with pretty simple code, for other distributions. The paper you reference is specifically using a beta-binomial model, and there is no closed form of the distribution function of the beta distribution which would make it very computationally intensive. Did you see the sentence I added regarding hydrology and econometrics? -- Avi (talk) 01:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your suggestions, advice, and patience! -- Avi (talk) 07:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

FAC revisit

Looie496, thanks for all of your recent FAC reviews. Would you mind revisiting Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/John Calvin to see if issues have been addressed ? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

A centralised discussion which may interest you

Hi. You may be interested in a centralised discussion on the subject of "lists of unusual things" to be found here. SP-KP (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Neuroscience Importance Scale

Hi Looie496. I believe that the articles efficient coding hypothesis and complex cell should have at least Mid-importance instead of Low-importance. The efficient coding hypothesis is important for theoretical neuroscience and complex cells are covered in basic visual neuroscience. Would you mind upgrading the importance? Thanks, JonathanWilliford (talk) 03:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC).

What you are saying makes sense. Feel free to change them yourself -- all you have to do is edit the text at the top of the article's talk page. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 17:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Cool, it's done. JonathanWilliford (talk) 18:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

3RR notice (don't worry, not about you!)

Hey Looie496, thanks for giving your input at the Mismatch negativity dispute a while back. I just wanted to let you know, that editor has continued edit warring (and has also spread his war to Neurolinguistics, an article I've been working on for two months and don't want to have destabilized right when it's up for GAN), and I have filed a 3RR report here. Your comments as a neutral editor would be appreciated. Best, Politizer /_contribs 14:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Never mind; the report has been closed (surprisingly quickly, I think, for an AN3 report!) and both pages semi'ed for a month. Politizer /_contribs 19:17, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Moving from the fence?

Hello. Concerning the Calvin FAC, the lead has been changed based on Ealdgyth's comments. Would you please take a look again? Thanks. --RelHistBuff (talk) 10:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: GA review

Care to point out which sentences you consider "bad"? –Juliancolton 04:05, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

There's a bunch of them. From the lead: "Terrain is considered in QPFs by use of topography…" Considered by use of topography? Ugh. "QPFs were used within hydrologic forecast models to simulate impact to rivers…" Simulate is obviously the wrong word, it should be predict. "Forecast models show significant sensitivity to humidity levels within the planetary boundary layer, or in the lowest levels of the atmosphere, which decreases with height." Huh? What decreases with height? "Radar imagery forecasting techniques show higher skill…" Skill is presumably some kind of jargon of the sort that doesn't belong in a Misplaced Pages article. Since I generally find your own writing to be quite clear, I'm surprised that you didn't object to these things. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 03:31, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Good points. I was a bit tired when I passed the article, so I'll go back and check it tomorrow morning. Best, –Juliancolton 03:45, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Edoardo Agnelli

Is Reuters not a good source? Conspiracy theories are present in every article when they exist, why is this article an exception? 77.42.179.51 (talk) 03:23, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I personally wouldn't object to mentioning the fact that some people think there was a conspiracy, but your edit gives the impression that most people think so, which is totally contradictory to the Reuters source, which is very explicit in saying that the conspiracy idea is unsupported by anything except Iranian public opinion. Looie496 (talk) 03:32, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

A-Class discussion

Hi, we're starting the discussion on A-Class here today, thanks for signing up! I hope you can present your views. Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 07:40, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Fluoridation opposition

I would appreciate an explanation of your comment. I don't see what I've done to deserve the bad faith, and I thought I could expect better from you. II | (t - c) 00:58, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what I did to engender such hostility, but if you ever feel up to analyzing that edit and telling me which changes "were rejected in August 2008", let me know. I figured you might be a little more careful in throwing around accusations like this, considering that you were accused of being a CAM POV pusher for simply not wanting a citation to be misrepresented. As I look at that thread, however, I see that these accusations may not be a new thing for you. Malcom said that "Looie496 seems to have a pattern of making foundationless serious accusations against other users which are insulting, and apparently intended to undermine the credibility of those he criticizes". Or perhaps in the wake of earlier accusation from Orangemarlin, you're trying to beef up your "anti-fringe" credibility. As one of my favorite economists likes to note , groupthink is maintained through the "fear won’t be taken seriously" because "wander too far and you find yourself on the fringe". Good luck. II | (t - c) 06:56, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Copyright stuff

Hi. Sorry for spilling over from AN, but I don't want to hijack the thread. You're obviously up on copyright issues. User:Dcoetzee and I have been talking about finding some way to get editors who are knowledgeable and interested together to coordinate when necessary on such concerns. I'm not sure that this will fly. Misplaced Pages:Close paraphrasing didn't get very far, and Misplaced Pages:Plagiarism has evidently been languishing under "proposed" status forever. But I am currently involved in cleaning up massive infringement here and just last night (my time) discovered what I'm afraid is going to turn out to be at least as big a mess as that one, if not bigger. (See the user talk page; one article was tagged for infringement; I found more in a recent DYK.) Anyway, I'm here to see if you'd like to be notified when we figure out what might work, in case you would be interested in participating in some way. Currently, I am the primary administrator volunteering at WP:CP; for the most part, it is manageable, but situations like these two and this one, some kind of project or task force would be very useful. If this isn't an area where you'd be interested in contributing, of course, that's fine, but I can't let someone who obviously knows what he's doing walk by without checking. :) --Moonriddengirl 22:05, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, I don't actually know that much; this thread just happened to relate to one of the parts I do understand. But please feel free to put me in the loop. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 22:48, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll let you know if we figure out something workable. Any input at all is highly appreciated! --Moonriddengirl 23:25, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I am working towards a "WikiProject." If I get sufficient input and show of interest (I think the WikiProject Council likes at least five members), I'll take it live. Currently, it's under development. If you have any suggestions for it, it would be much appreciated. :) It's at User:Moonriddengirl/WikiProject Copyright Cleanup at the moment. --Moonriddengirl 22:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Still at it

Check this out, II reinstates the edit again: . ScienceApologist (talk) 23:47, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Melodrama and race

Many thanks for the reassuring good sense on this issue in FTN. The offending section has been removed without retaliation for a couple of days, so keeping fingers crossed! Cheers Bjenks (talk) 02:13, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Hunger

“I don't think you need that many sources to establish a single point.” Unfortunately, many sources are needed to give a historically truthful overview of the mortality statistics on this issue. A historic overview of these statistics is important because the subject of the article isn’t “Recent Hunger” but simply “Hunger”. And so many are needed also because I haven’t yet found a single reliable source which groups all the scattered reliable statistics on the matter.

“‘reference bombing’ an article is bad because it makes articles hard to maintain” The truth is always more important than convenience and in this case the truth needs many sources as explained already above.

“More importantly, a line like "1 person dies every second as a result of hunger - 4000 every hour - 100 000 each day - 36 million each year - 58 % of all deaths" is what I call gee-whizzery.” I think the variations on the statistic (which you call “gee-whizzery”) are necessary because these variations are found in the scattered various reliable sources one might find (including the sources used by me) and also because they are used regularly in news outlets and on seemingly authoritative sites (such as wfp.org bread.org etc) without precise reliable sources, and on other more dubious sites with weak sources (as was the case before my contribution on this aspect on wikipedia). If one wants to check on one of these variations found somewhere, at least now Misplaced Pages gives solid sources to support or criticize what one has found.

“Material in an encyclopedia should not be written in such breathless language.” My contribution was meant to be statistical only and does not mean chapters of explanation in an “encyclopedic language” on the same aspect don’t have their place. But “raw” statistics also have a place in Misplaced Pages: there are countless articles where “raw” statistics peacefully cohabit with “encyclopedic language”. It also must be added that my contribution is obviously a tiny one on the major subject of mortality due to hunger that deserves greater development in Misplaced Pages, but it shouldn’t be eliminated simply because it’s not complete enough on the whole subject. Hopefully the article will grow in the future.

“Furthermore, statistics like "1 person dies every second" are also given to impress rather than inform. They don't actually mean anything: the proof is that if you get them badly wrong -- "1 person dies every 2 seconds" -- they don't look any less bad, even though that's only half the death rate. You could make up any number you want and nobody would know the difference.” I don’t really understand what you mean by all this. I’m guessing that you do not mean that all statistical numbers, even true, are always meaningless because that would be morally unacceptable. So the only other thing I can see, but that leaves me perplexed, is that you are saying that a death statistic translated in time is meaningless. But it seems simple to understand that if “6 million children die each year” is true, then “1 child dies every 5 seconds” is also true and vice versa. All you need to do is to calculate it if you want to verify. I could make up any number (on any subject, the size of the earth for example) but it seems obvious that somebody who looked at the many sources I give (or looked up sources on his own) could “ know the difference”. All this seems so obvious that I guess that maybe I just don’t understand what you are trying to say. If such is the case please try to explain all this again. (?)

Another reason I had to give as many reliable sources to support the statistics was precisely to avoid to “get them badly wrong”

Regards Armando Navarro (talk) 03:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Depersonalization disorder/GA1

This gonna be followed up on at all? Wizardman 16:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Is that still somehow open? I thought somebody else closed it a long time ago, due to lack of response by the author to the reviews. Apologies if I dropped the ball somehow. Looie496 (talk) 16:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

You're the one that's officially doing the review, so I think you have to close it. Xasodfuih (talk) 01:33, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Flatworm

Thanks for adding comments on the article. Unfortunately, a new GAN review should never have been initiated on the article because the article was currently listed at GA reassessment. I have moved your comments to the GA reassessment page instead, to avoid confusion. Dr. Cash (talk) 16:05, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind what I just said. I have removed myself from the process because I don't believe that I can be considered neutral anymore by Philcha. All I ask, however, is that while you complete your review, please examine my previous review and make notable comments as you see fit. Cheers! Dr. Cash (talk) 16:37, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Looie496, sorry for not responding in the last couple of days - I've caught a heavy cold and my brain don't work so good. Many thanks for the review, you've been very helpful and the article is significantly better as a result. I have to admit I found this one difficult, mainly because the taxonomic issues made it hard to fid a uniform level at wheich to summarise the critters. --Philcha (talk) 06:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Looie496, do you remember our discussion of "head" in the Flatworm GA review? Have a look at Annelid#Nervous_system_and_senses! BTW Annelid phylogeny is at least as messy as that of Flatworms - sigh. --Philcha (talk) 08:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Hunger stats

I left a note on the article's talk page, but it's getting ignored. Should we start a RfC on this issue? Or the user in question maybe? Xasodfuih (talk) 01:34, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw it. The problem with using words like "a bit of" and "unsure" is that it makes it unclear that you're serious. I suggest following up with a message that says politely but definitively what you think ought to be done, and we can go from there. Anyway, thanks for the support. Looie496 (talk) 01:56, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Mortality statistics

I see a bit of WP:OR in this section in that the original sources give the mortality per year. I'm unsure of the value of deriving the mortality per second, hour, day, etc. Misplaced Pages is not a platform for advocacy, even for a good cause. Xasodfuih (talk) 17:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Response

It is not WP:OR. Please read carefully before judging : the original sources do give variations on the mortality statistics as one can read in the sources I provide in the " References" and as one can also read in the many links to actual source material that I give in the " References"

For example, in the “References"

^ Jacques Diouf. “The State of Food Insecurity in the World 2004: Monitoring Progress Towards the World Food Summit and Millennium Development Goals”. Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, 2004, p. 4. “one child dies every five seconds as a result of hunger and malnutrition”.

Jacques Diouf, FAO Director-General, wrote this, not me.

As to the value of variations on the mortality statistics, it is necessary because these variations are found in many of the reliable sources on the matter (Food and Agriculture Organization, United Nations Special Rapporteur on the right to food, World Food Programme, Unicef, etc) (included in the sources used by me in the "References"). It is therefore a standard way of communicating the statistics on this matter given by the organizations responsible for establishing authoritative statistics on the subject.

it is necessary also because these variations are used regularly in reliable news outlets and by other seemingly authoritative organizations (various hunger organizations) often without precise references. If one wants to check on one of these variations found somewhere, at least now Misplaced Pages gives solid sources to support or criticize what one has found. Armando Navarro (talk) 13:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

I also repeat this previous answer on the question since it seems to have been ignored :

Hunger

“I don't think you need that many sources to establish a single point.” Unfortunately, many sources are needed to give a historically truthful overview of the mortality statistics on this issue. A historic overview of these statistics is important because the subject of the article isn’t “Recent Hunger” but simply “Hunger”. And so many are needed also because I haven’t yet found a single reliable source which groups all the scattered reliable statistics on the matter.

“‘reference bombing’ an article is bad because it makes articles hard to maintain” The truth is always more important than convenience and in this case the truth needs many sources as explained already above.

“More importantly, a line like "1 person dies every second as a result of hunger - 4000 every hour - 100 000 each day - 36 million each year - 58 % of all deaths" is what I call gee-whizzery.” I think the variations on the statistic (which you call “gee-whizzery”) are necessary because these variations are found in the scattered various reliable sources one might find (including the sources used by me) and also because they are used regularly in news outlets and on seemingly authoritative sites (such as wfp.org bread.org etc) without precise reliable sources, and on other more dubious sites with weak sources (as was the case before my contribution on this aspect on wikipedia). If one wants to check on one of these variations found somewhere, at least now Misplaced Pages gives solid sources to support or criticize what one has found.

“Material in an encyclopedia should not be written in such breathless language.” My contribution was meant to be statistical only and does not mean chapters of explanation in an “encyclopedic language” on the same aspect don’t have their place. But “raw” statistics also have a place in Misplaced Pages: there are countless articles where “raw” statistics peacefully cohabit with “encyclopedic language”. It also must be added that my contribution is obviously a tiny one on the major subject of mortality due to hunger that deserves greater development in Misplaced Pages, but it shouldn’t be eliminated simply because it’s not complete enough on the whole subject. Hopefully the article will grow in the future.

“Furthermore, statistics like "1 person dies every second" are also given to impress rather than inform. They don't actually mean anything: the proof is that if you get them badly wrong -- "1 person dies every 2 seconds" -- they don't look any less bad, even though that's only half the death rate. You could make up any number you want and nobody would know the difference.” I don’t really understand what you mean by all this. I’m guessing that you do not mean that all statistical numbers, even true, are always meaningless because that would be morally unacceptable. So the only other thing I can see, but that leaves me perplexed, is that you are saying that a death statistic translated in time is meaningless. But it seems simple to understand that if “6 million children die each year” is true, then “1 child dies every 5 seconds” is also true and vice versa. All you need to do is to calculate it if you want to verify. I could make up any number (on any subject, the size of the earth for example) but it seems obvious that somebody who looked at the many sources I give (or looked up sources on his own) could “ know the difference”. All this seems so obvious that I guess that maybe I just don’t understand what you are trying to say. If such is the case please try to explain all this again. (?)

Another reason I had to give as many reliable sources to support the statistics was precisely to avoid to “get them badly wrong”

Regards Armando Navarro (talk) 03:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

ANI

I already filed a report on WP:RFPP and they denied me too with the same reasoning. Thanks anyway.TomCat4680 (talk) 04:20, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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Re: Bogart Foundation

Thanks for the suggestions - I wrote back on my talk page and would love your further comments/suggestions. Saraphrodite (talk) 22:49, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Philosophy of mind

See standard notice I placed in User talk:Djrb1979. There are hundreds of millions websites around. Misplaced Pages needs article text and references to text, not bare links, however valuable they may be. I may accept a wikipedian in "lazy mode", when they add an ext link which covers an obscure topic difficult to find. But links to tons of arbitrary academic papers without minimal explanations, sorry. - 7-bubёn >t 19:12, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Cerejota (talk) 17:45, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: twinkle, twinkle, ...

Well, one was for nominating the Misplaced Pages Sandbox for deletion, the other two were for edits this. Plus, the user has a sock on User:Vanlalism_warner. I am guessing this user is up to no good. - NeutralHomer • Talk • March 16, 2009 @ 23:03

Maybe so, but warning the user for vandalizing the sandbox, and then suggesting that the user instead experiment on the sandbox, may be a bit difficult to follow. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 23:07, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Never though of that, but the warnings are from TWINKLE, so I have no control over those, but you do have a point. - NeutralHomer • Talk • March 16, 2009 @ 23:09

Edmontosaurus image

Hello, Looie496;

I'd like to get your opinion on commons:File:DNMHedmonto.jpg at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Edmontosaurus. Thanks! J. Spencer (talk) 01:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Definitely more useful to the average reader than the skull or the other skeletal pictures in the article, but I still feel a picture of the dinosaur as it was thought to appear when alive would be the most useful thing for the lede. In any case, thanks for asking. Looie496 (talk) 02:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

style and formatting tips for GA reviews

I just made a few minor cleanup edits to your GA review of Flatworm. When making comments in GA reviews, please use only 3rd level headers and below to separate major points of the review. When you use 2nd level headers on the review subpage, those subsections appear as new topics on the talk page, rather than part of the GA review.

Also, when passing articles, your statement that you've passed (or failed) the article should be made on the GA review subpage, rather than separately on the talk page, unconnected from the actual review itself. This is important so that readers see that the GA review has concluded. Dr. Cash (talk) 02:46, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to follow them. Looie496 (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season copyedits

I liked many of your recent edits to the lede of this article. I don't feel that they should have been completely reverted — that approach struck me as quite heavy-handed. I would welcome further input from you on the article. -- Deejayk (talk) 22:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

consciousness

Hi -- I don't think it is useful to readers to link words like "philosopher", "scientist", and "universe". Also it's just plain wrong to link "nebulous" to fuzzy logic. I propose to undo these changes, but in the interest of not coming across as hostile, I thought it would be nice to get your reaction first. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 17:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Answer to Looie496 observation

Hi Looie496,

thanks for contacting me before undoing my revision!
You seem to be a very undooing revisionist according to your latest english wikipedia contributions:
4 reverted edits on 7 in the last two days.
But please don't get me wrong!
I am a wikipedia administrator myself and I know there is loz of vandalism "out there".
So I also appreciate that you started a discussion with me telling what were your thoughts about my last three revisionson the consciousness wikipedia article.
This even if they are all negative (if not plain negative!).
Thanks for proposing me to undo these changes:
you are the very FIRST polite editor that I have encountered on wikipedia in the last SIX years writing me so nicely about undoing my changes.
Please give me 24 hours for thinking about it.
Please also consider writing something more about yourself in the meantime!

Noone is biting you...
Thanks for reading me.
(Good night? Duh? I don't even know time zone is!)

Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 21:10, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: I am posting these two messages on the consciousness discussion page too in order to try involve other editors in the next 24 hours.

Bates method

Thanks for reviewing Bates method. I initially replied to your comments in a hurry, and upon further reflection changed my response on some points. The Accommodation subsection is probably the trickiest part of the article currently. If it's too much trouble you can move on to the rest of the article and get back to Accommodation later if you still feel the article has a chance to pass GA. PSWG1920 (talk) 00:58, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

I haven't looked at this since I submitted my last comments, so I don't yet know exactly what you're talking about, but I'll try not to panic in any case. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 02:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Looie496. I suggest the last para of the current lead at Bates method can be made more concise, possibly by 30%; and suspect other parts of the lead can also be streamlined without loss of info. --Philcha (talk) 10:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Fetal farming

Hi there, several alternative redirect targets have now been proposed, could you comment on which you prefer? Tim Vickers (talk) 18:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Edward

I think you're right, and agree that the second sentence is problematic. I wouldn't mind challenging the issue of the wedding gift but am not sure how to go about it. Contaldo80 (talk) 09:46, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts

I strongly encourage you to not revert any edits from other users at Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts. The more one lets a user leave edits there that are inappropriate, the more rope one gives them to hang themselves. --Boston (talk) 19:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)--Boston (talk) 19:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Well, it didn't seem to me that letting an already well-hung editor get even more hung justified wasting the time of every editor who watches the page. But I accept your point. Looie496 (talk) 19:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Well-hung? --Philcha (talk) 23:44, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Should it be well-hanged instead? Looie496 (talk) 00:14, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, if we're talking abouit execution rather than exceptional endowment. --Philcha (talk) 06:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Prevagen

An article you edited is now up for deletion. Tim Vickers (talk) 17:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Bates method GA pass

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Thanks for your help with the article. Hopefully it will soon be at WP:FAC, but I guess it's not quite ready yet. PSWG1920 (talk) 05:39, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

FYI: You've added "GA" in the edit summary after passing (as advised by the WP:GAN) so a bot will take care of the article history. Hekerui (talk) 11:34, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

You have replies

At Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(geographic_names)#No_consensus_to_remove_the_example. Feel free to join the ongoing main RM discussion here as well, if you feel like jumping into the discussion that caused the NC one. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:50, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Dear Looie496, This is DrTonyFlagg speaking. I received your message. Please go to the talk section of the dopamine article (section: Salience). Regards, --Drtonyflagg (talk) 04:30, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Romila Thapar: False Allegations of Sock Puppetry: Please Investigate

Looie496

I did read the sections. The Blocking of accounts by Nishkid64 and Regents Park, not to mention their being editors is a conflict of interest. Please investigate. Thank you--Naziasultana (talk) 20:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Re:SPI

I added them to the list. I'm pretty much certain they are both SchnitzelMannGreek. Inferno, Lord of Penguins (talk) 02:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Thanks for telling me, but I have heard of bots, but I don't know exactly what they are. I use a Java script to make insect-related pages quickly, though they are stubish. And I can understand your concern, because this can be used for mass vandalism, but I assure you, that I have no such intentions, but that of for the better good. If I am disobeying any rules, please explain. Buɡboy52.4 (talk) 18:24, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and I was just about to make articles for all the species for the genus Amata, is that all right??Buɡboy52.4 (talk) 18:26, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Editing a comment of yours

I have taken the liberty of editing a comment of yours to correct what looks like the kind of typo I would make, since I believe that you meant quite the opposite of what you said. :) The edit is here. Please revert me if I'm mistaken. :) Very well explained, I think. Obviously, my attention was drawn to it by the ANI report; it looks like you've got it well in hand. --Moonriddengirl 20:05, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I saw -- thanks for fixing my typo. Looie496 (talk) 20:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Sinhala People Talk Page

Hi Looie. I would like to apologize for what was unquestionably recent vandalism of the discussion page for the article pertaining to "Sinhala People". This was not me, but rather one of my room-mates who shares a computer with me (I forgot to logout of my account, it was my own fault).

On the same note, however, a large amount of text that I myself did indeed add to the discussion page for "Sinhala People" under the last topic: "The comment about "Muslim-Sinhalese" population is unfounded" was deleted without reason and no one left a message on the talk page explaining their actions as is the usual protocol. I did a lot of independent research and spent a lot of time writing the section that was deleted. I felt it was very important to the discussion. Is there any way to restore this section? and if there is some good reason as to why it was deleted I will alter my content as necessary to make it more appropriate (even though I find it very difficult to fathom and comprehend why it would be considered "inappropriate" in the first place) so it stays and is not deleted in future. My section was a response to user: 90.219.238.197.

I'm not an administrator, I can't do anything more than you can do. I also don't know anything about the topic. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 22:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Do you know who is an administrator that can restore my original text? It is good that the vandalism was reverted as that was not even me, however, I think deleting several paragraphs of researched, supported, and sourced text in a legitimate talk is insulting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MultiScholar (talk • contribs) 22:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

You can restore it yourself, using the History tab. I'm not going to give you instructions, though, because it looks to me like you are fighting with other people on that page and writing comments that are much too long -- I don't want to encourage that style of editing. Looie496 (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Peets

thanks for the tip. just quick note: i worked for mr peet in the 1980's, he was a charming man, passionate about tea more than coffee, oddly. a perfectionist, of course, so some people bristled, but he could be positively poetic about his craft. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Susan Boyle

FYI. Your close of this AfD was brought up on the Village pump and the Help desk, and the AfD has since been reopened. --Onorem♠Dil 12:54, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

(update) And it's now been closed again. --Onorem♠Dil 13:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

For future reference, the closure you performed didn't meet the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Non-admin closure and really should not have been done. You asked at ANI and multiple admins (including myself) told you that a WP:SNOW keep was out of the question, but then some time later when not much had really changed you closed anyway. In general, I'd advise only using non-admin closures for extremely unambiguous cases, which the subsequent wheel warring obviously indicates it wasn't. I'm not trying to come down on you or anything, I'm just giving some advice on how to stay out of trouble. Oren0 (talk) 03:20, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your response. I really don´t know why a see so many articles tagged as Orphan, like it is a necessary to have links. Also some other editors believe that some pages can be plagued with notable people in them. ----Juliaaltagracia (talk) 02:30, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Huntington's disease GAC

First of all thank you for your willingness to review the article; however it's been 11 days since your first lines with general recommendations (which the editors tried to resolve) and you have made no further comments. Do you plan to finish your review? How long do you think it will take you? Bests. --Garrondo (talk) 07:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Looie, thanks for your suggestions - and edits so far, Just wondered if you had a timescale for the review - it's just that JFW is holding the Medical collaboration open (it would be a great boost to the project to achieve a GA on it's watch) - but he is probably itching to roll it over to the next article. I dropped a note for user:delldot to add any extra comments - She reviewed HD for a previous GAN but is busy so may not have spare time. Hopefully we have addressed the points you've raised so far - but if there are any problems just let us know - Many thanks and power to the pixel! L∴V 11:41, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Hak Ja Han RFC

Thank you very much for taking the time to comment in the Request for Comment about the article Hak Ja Han. Can you please elaborate on your comments at Talk:Hak_Ja_Han#RfC:_Sentence_about_marriage_to_Sun_Myung_Moon? The issue isn't really whether or not to reduce the number of sources cited for that sentence, that would be okay with me, but rather that some individuals would rather the entire sentence not be in the article at all, sourced or not. If you could expand on your comment after reading over the posts from the "involved" contributors (including myself and others) that would be most appreciated. Thank you for your time, Cirt (talk) 08:00, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Dougofborg 18:15, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Martin Bucer

Hello, the Martin Bucer FAC was archived. In my opinion, this was closed too early. I have renominated it; would you please vote or leave a comment on the new FAC? See Talk:Martin Bucer and click on "leave comments". Thanks. --RelHistBuff (talk) 21:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Chaos theory and Ramakrishnan

I thought the article was an interesting way to explain Ramakrishnan's free will theory. . I hope you have read it before deleting the link. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.79.4 (talk) 07:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

BTW the original article is at . However the source was not notable hence the editorial article in Times of India was put. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.79.4 (talk) 11:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Sorry I am new to wikipedia and did not know the process. How do you get to the talk section of each page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Salty24 (talk • contribs) 00:16, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Camping Food article

I voted strong Keep on this one, read your note to the original author, and want to know what it will take to prevent deletion of this one. Yes, I've adopted it, although I do not know the author, but feel it is unjustly being nominated. I hope the writer has not been scared off. Tell me what I need to do to insure a Keep, other than my vote. Please respond on my talk page when you have time. Sincerely worried, Marcia Marcia Wright (talk) 16:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Method of loci

Hi, I've begun a rewrite of the Method of loci article intended to reflect the currency of the term in psychology, neurobiology and memory studies. I'd appreciate it if you might be able to take a look and vet the content, and of course, if you can, fill it out a bit. Thanks! --Picatrix (talk) 14:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello

I am new to the contributor side of wikipedia. I have an interest primarily in contributing to the neuroscience rroject, stemming largely from SfN's new initiative to assist what you all have been doing here. I noticed your name in a number of the pages and threads that I've been looking through, and felt compelled to at least say hello. I expect to spend my time here in the coming days absorbing the process and procedures before jumping into contributing. There's lots of useful info around, but any helpful advice is always appreciated. Cheers. PhSean (talk) 18:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi -- take a look at Misplaced Pages Talk:WikiProject Neuroscience, that's where we've been discussing the SfN initiative. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 19:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Independent story linked in Bipolar disorder article

I see that you removed a link to a newspaper story from the bipolar disorder article per WP:MEDRS. I see that the article in question cited papers from a special edition of Personality and Individual Differences, to which I do not have access. If you have electronic journal access, would it be possible for you to look up the papers cited in the newspaper article and link to them in its stead? -- The Anome (talk) 16:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

I can't do it immediately, but I'll be able to access them the next time I go into the lab, in a couple of days. But looking at the abstracts for the papers, none of them seem to deal in any sort of specific way with bipolar disorder. Also note that there are tons of high-quality sources for a relationship between bipolar and creativity, including this Scientific American article. If the statement in our article hadn't already been well-sourced, I'd have dug one up. Regards, Looie496 (talk) 16:44, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your opinion

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Up Your's

I see you've meet one of my many sock puppet accounts keep on the look out for any other variation of my Dr.? name out there. If you'd like to talk to me look for user talk: Joe Castillo Dr.?

P.S. you can never shut down the Doctor.