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3RR rule

I am not sure if you are familiar with WP:3RR rule. Please take a look. The "revert" means undoing (in part or completely) work of other editors. The edits you made as an IP also count. Sure thing, I looked at the references and how they define this term. Please be constructive and provide a better definition if you can. Thanks.Biophys (talk) 01:13, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Just to make sure. User:166.217.202.68 - was it you? Thanks.12:28, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I've already said I was editing under this IP before logging in. In any case, two of my reverts were putting back deleted POV and citation requested tags–this qualifies as legitimate under exceptions to 3RR. Best, PasswordUsername (talk) 15:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC).

Where are you seeing this exception? "Legitimate content changes, adding or removing tags, edits against consensus, and similar actions are not exempt." My italics. --Hans Adler (talk) 15:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I didn't edit against consensus. Everybody who posted on the talk page yesterday found problems with the article, and two out of three editors saw the article as biased. Digwuren, who did not participate in Talk:Neo-Stalinism deleted a citation request tag for the problematic definition of the article's subject, and Biophys removed a POV tag. I inserted those back in, which seemed an OK thing to do in regard to an illegitimate edit. Sorry if I got it wrong. PasswordUsername (talk) 16:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

My point (and the policy's) was only that even if someone makes a completely biased edit against a strong consensus, there is no exemption for reverting this. You cited the policy, and I had the impression that this was based on a misreading. The purpose of 3RR is to force people to look for alternative ways of dispute resolution, not to decide the issue. --Hans Adler (talk) 16:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. That was bad judgment. PasswordUsername (talk) 16:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

And how about User:166.203.202.83 and User:166.217.80.95? Was it also you? You should only edit under your account to avoid SP accusations.Biophys (talk) 16:37, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I was not logged in at the time. PasswordUsername (talk) 17:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

CfD

Hi, just some quick comments on nomination strategy. If you want a controversial nomination to be successful, you need more than a few editors saying "delete per nominator". You should give others who agree with you the chance to justify it with an original thought. And then there is this important Misplaced Pages principle: Editors who feel too strongly about a matter are generally wrong. I believe the most effective nominations are of the type: "I noticed this by accident, looks like it should be deleted for this or that strong reason. But it's not my field, so what do others here think?"

Oh, and you should also know that Category:Neo-Stalinism and Category:Neo-Stalinist organisations are not unique. I think your main arguments (except the last one about living people) also apply to Category:Pseudoscience, and I don't think there is a chance to get it deleted. --Hans Adler (talk) 11:58, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Hello, Frank. It seems you can read Russian, and you said that you are a student. You look very much as an experienced wikipedian. Did you edit somewhere before?Biophys (talk) 03:16, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I was a minor IP editor for quite a while before registering an account. I also like working on Encyclopedia Dramatica. PasswordUsername (talk) 03:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I only wanted to ask about your language skills. You apparently know Russian, judging from your edits in Novodvorskaya. Biophys (talk) 02:19, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I do read it and speak fluently. PasswordUsername (talk) 03:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Good to know. Do they teach about Novodvorskaya in US Universities?Biophys (talk) 15:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

The ones with internet access. Do they teach about Novodvorskaya in biophysics labs? PasswordUsername (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I am Russian who came to the US in 1990s. This is my culture, and I watch closely what's going on in the country. I partly read a memoir by Novodvorskaya "Beyond despair". You said you are US student. US students have absolutely no idea who she is. So, why are you interested in her biography?Biophys (talk) 01:54, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Check this out

User:Drew R. Smith/game

WP:NPA and WP:POINT

With regard to these your statements... You came to my talk page only to call me a vandal and claim that I intentionally misrepresent sources. And you still did not provide any proof of that. You also said above that you intentially reverted a bunch of my edits to teach me a lesson. Are you going to continue, to follow my edits in articles you were never interested before and revert my edits? Doing so is against WP policies. Regards, Biophys (talk) 15:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

I saw this as I am still watching this talk page. This looks like a clash of strong POVs to me, and I have no idea who is right. But one thing: We have a very restrictive, technical definition of vandalism here, which makes sense because reverting vandalism is exempt from 3RR and this exemption is not supposed to be effective in a case such as this one. It's easy for a beginner to get this wrong, especially because many of the more experienced editors abuse the word in all those contexts where they can get away with it. Vandalism warnings are not one of them. --Hans Adler (talk) 17:29, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

This user apologized, and I asked him not to follow my edits. If he follows this advise, everything should be fine. I am not sure what you call my "POV". I do not hold any strong opinions about Novodvorskaya beyond following WP:BLP rules, and I do not care about Neo-Stalinism. I edited hundreds other articles and will continue doing so. Thank you for the comment.Biophys (talk) 02:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)