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::Your source did not say anything about "nationalization" or George Bush, so you basically made some of it up - original research. '''Also''', is pure synthesis of multiple sources that violates the ] with more "however"-style constructs. I suggest you self revert and cease this agenda-based editing immediately. -- ] (]) 02:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC) ::Your source did not say anything about "nationalization" or George Bush, so you basically made some of it up - original research. '''Also''', is pure synthesis of multiple sources that violates the ] with more "however"-style constructs. I suggest you self revert and cease this agenda-based editing immediately. -- ] (]) 02:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

== Topic ban right around the corner ==

I've been here to warn you before, and this is really and truly the final warning. Your recent editing over at ] is unacceptable and part of a larger pattern whereby you engage in original research and/or use poor sources (or use acceptable sources inappropriately) in order to push non-NPOV, and at times non-notable, material into various Barack Obama related articles. The following three diffs all show problematic recent edits in this regard.

The next time I see edits along these lines, I intend to ban your from Barack Obama articles for a fairly lengthy period of time per ]. After taking note of your editing pattern on these articles for some time, I've come to the conclusion that your contributions there are almost exclusively non-constructive. This is a final chance to change course, but if I see or am informed of these kind of edits again you will be banned from these articles. --] <small>| ] | ]</small> 04:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

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This must STOP

This is just another in a very long line of agenda-driven edits that must stop, Grundle. How many times do you have to be told that these newsbites you keep shoving into articles are completely inappropriate? Yet again, you have inserted something into Political positions of Barack Obama that is not a political position. This is highly disruptive behavior for which you have received multiple warnings. Stop it now. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

And this is even worse. -- Scjessey (talk) 19:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

In the first case, Obama's actions contradicted his words. The article already cited his words - I just wanted to add his actions for balance.

In the second case, the article already had a section on conservative support of Obama. I added the section on communist support of Obama for balance.

Grundle2600 (talk) 20:14, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

That's not balance. That's agenda-based editing, commonly referred to as "POV pushing". It shows a complete lack of understanding of WP:NPOV. You need to stop this tactic of putting trivial, poorly-sourced crap into Obama-related articles immediately. I'm going to request that you should be a named party in the ArbCom investigation. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:19, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Why do you think the San Francisco Chronicle is a poor source? Why do you think the Communist Party website is a poor source for the views of the Communist Party? Grundle2600 (talk) 20:21, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
You are missing the point. It's not about the sources (although you synthesized meaning here by combining two sources), but about the appropriateness of the edits. As usual, you made no attempt to discuss what you surely knew would be highly contentious additions before putting them in. As usual, you added something that was not a political position into an article listing political positions. Every edit you make seems to be a bad faith attempt to smear Barack Obama, and that kind of agenda-based editing is totally unacceptable for Misplaced Pages. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:32, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
It's not synthesis, because one source cited the other source. And I didn't "smear" Obama - all I did was cite the facts. Obama said he would stop the DEA raids on medical marijuana, but he did not keep his promise. Don't blame me for that - blame Obama. Grundle2600 (talk) 20:36, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
You need to self-revert this crap immediately. It is not a political position. It is a claim by some random magazine. Stop your bad faith edits. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:38, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Reason magazine is not a "random" magazine. It has been the #1 circulation libertarian magazine for decades. Grundle2600 (talk) 20:42, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Tiny circulation, biased, your source comes from its blog. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:51, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The Reason magazine article says the Chicago Tribune called it one of the 50 best magazines. Blogs from reputable publications are allowable as sources. Grundle2600 (talk) 20:57, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Did you totally miss my comment above that starts with "you are missing the point"? -- Scjessey (talk) 21:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
I read everything that you said. You said my entries were "poorly-sourced." But then after I defended the sources, you said it's not about the sources. You also falsely accused me of doing "original research," "inserting unpublished information," and putting my "personal analysis" into articles. You keep making one false accusation after another. Grundle2600 (talk) 21:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

May 2009

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you violate Misplaced Pages's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did to Presidency of Barack Obama, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Scjessey (talk) 20:34, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I cited my sources for everything. Everything was published. There was no original research. There were no personal attacks. Grundle2600 (talk) 20:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Party

I went and added you to the party as an Obama case. Doesn't mean you will or won't be sanctioned, though if you have any evidence you wish to add, or wish to propose or comment on ideas in the workshop, you are certainly welcome to. Wizardman 21:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

I added my defense to the section. Grundle2600 (talk) 21:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved without good reason. They need to have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. We have some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. The article is about Johnston and not about the impregnation of Sarah Palin's daughter. He might be notable for that, but the article is not about that event. Please move back at once. TharsHammar and 17:33, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Blocked

You have been blocked for a period of 24 hours from editing in accordance with Misplaced Pages's blocking policy for persistent vandalism. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Horologium (talk) 17:52, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I've unblocked; I'm uncomfortable with editors being blocked without warning for boldly moving pages per BLP1E.
Grundle, You may wish to review the AN thread on this matter at Misplaced Pages:AN#Unilateral move. –xeno 20:45, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I would, however, urge you to consider whether boldly moving a high-profile BLP during a contentious AFD discussion without a proper WP:RM discussion was a good idea. Proposing the move on the talk page first may have avoided all this. Keep this in mind for the future. –xeno 22:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Grundle2600 (talk) 22:09, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Life Saver bottle

I opened a deletion debate, see:

--Pjacobi (talk) 14:16, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

So far, the beginning of the consensus looks like a keep. Grundle2600 (talk) 20:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. This article needs a bit of work, but it should not be deleted. -- Scjessey (talk) 20:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I just added a bunch of stuff. Grundle2600 (talk) 20:57, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Good work

The Original Barnstar
Your contributions are praiseworthy and I especially like the article Mosquito laser. See also Mosquito bat. Colonel Warden (talk) 21:34, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! Grundle2600 (talk) 21:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Michelle Obama

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Who then was a gentleman? (talk) 01:23, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

New section

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of previously published material to our articles as you apparently did to Presidency of Barack Obama. Please cite a reliable source for all of your information. Thank you. Scjessey (talk) 01:29, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

I cited my source. Grundle2600 (talk) 01:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Your source did not say anything about "nationalization" or George Bush, so you basically made some of it up - original research. Also, this addition is pure synthesis of multiple sources that violates the neutral point of view with more "however"-style constructs. I suggest you self revert and cease this agenda-based editing immediately. -- Scjessey (talk) 02:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Topic ban right around the corner

I've been here to warn you before, and this is really and truly the final warning. Your recent editing over at Presidency of Barack Obama is unacceptable and part of a larger pattern whereby you engage in original research and/or use poor sources (or use acceptable sources inappropriately) in order to push non-NPOV, and at times non-notable, material into various Barack Obama related articles. The following three diffs all show problematic recent edits in this regard.

The next time I see edits along these lines, I intend to ban your from Barack Obama articles for a fairly lengthy period of time per Talk:Barack Obama/Article probation. After taking note of your editing pattern on these articles for some time, I've come to the conclusion that your contributions there are almost exclusively non-constructive. This is a final chance to change course, but if I see or am informed of these kind of edits again you will be banned from these articles. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 04:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)