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No, nationmaster.com has plagiarized Misplaced Pages (of course not, since Misplaced Pages is a free resource...) --The Phoenix 09:21, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)
A Turk can say these without "plagiarizing" at any time you want. We learn these at primary school. With respect, Deliogul17:58, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I had to chuckle at the " Mustafa ... then turned his arms against the Greek emperor and declared his resolution to punish the Palaiologos for their unprovoked enmity by the capture of Constantinople." The poor innocent wee lad - this comment does seem a bit off kilter in respect of the long wars between the Byzantines and Turks. Who started it? Hmm ...
The name given as Arabic in the first paragraph is obviously in Arabic script. But is it in Arabic? Turkish was written in Arabic script until the 20th century. My guess is this is simply his Turkish name written in a different alphabet.
Rbraunwa19:05, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
I think its the same, it means murad the second in arabic if the شـ written in شاني was a ثـ and the word would be ثاني, ie, the second, at least in arabic, could someone please make sure if شاني (SHani) means anything in turkish (second maybe ??), if not, its probably a typo.--213.6.8.24722:37, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
There was a typo in the Arabic script as noted (شـ should indeed have been ثـ), which I've corrected, as well as adding a transcription of the Ottoman Turkish, which simply means—appropriately enough—"Murad II". -Saposcat19:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Age at beginning of rule
It says in the first paragraph of the Biography section that he began his rule at the age of 18. if he was born in 1404, there is no way he was 18 in 1421. Is one of the dates incorrect, or is the the age wrong? Lord GaleVII (talk) 16:20, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
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