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| Neil Kinnock was ennobled in 2005. He is still a member of the Privy Council, and can thus be addressed Rt Hon The Baron Kinnock etc. Glenys could, I suppose, insist on being addressed as The Hon. Baroness Kinnock etc but, apart from on formal embossed invitations, that would sound a bit naff. So, I think you should drop the silly Hon. (certainly forget all about her husband's Rt Hon) title, and just call her Baroness or Lady Kinnock. Then, we can all go back to sleep!] 22:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC) | Neil Kinnock was ennobled in 2005. He is still a member of the Privy Council, and can thus be addressed Rt Hon The Baron Kinnock etc. Glenys could, I suppose, insist on being addressed as The Hon. Baroness Kinnock etc but, apart from on formal embossed invitations, that would sound a bit naff. So, I think you should drop the silly Hon. (certainly forget all about her husband's Rt Hon) title, and just call her Baroness or Lady Kinnock. Then, we can all go back to sleep!] 22:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC) | ||
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| "A baron is styled Right Honourable and formally by the Sovereign Right trusty and well-beloved cousin (and counsellor when a Member of the Privy Council)." This applies equally to a baroness in her own right, which is what a Life Baroness is, and this is why peers who are Privy Counsellors have the letters PC appended to denote their membership.--] 23:16, 25 November 2005 (UTC) | |||
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The Honourable is right; the Right Honourable is wrong
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Neil Kinnock was elected Leader of the Opposition in 1983. Thereby, Mr Kinnock became a Privy Council member, and remains so for life. His formal title was then the Rt Hon Neil Kinnock MP PC. Glenys remained Mrs Glenys Kinnock (ie she wasn't a PC member, so couldn't be described as the Rt Hon Mrs Glenys Kinnock) until she was elected as an MEP in 1994. Then, she became Glenys Kinnock MEP.
Neil Kinnock was ennobled in 2005. He is still a member of the Privy Council, and can thus be addressed Rt Hon The Baron Kinnock etc. Glenys could, I suppose, insist on being addressed as The Hon. Baroness Kinnock etc but, apart from on formal embossed invitations, that would sound a bit naff. So, I think you should drop the silly Hon. (certainly forget all about her husband's Rt Hon) title, and just call her Baroness or Lady Kinnock. Then, we can all go back to sleep!Phase1 22:55, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
I refer you to http://www.debretts.co.uk/peerage_and_baronetage/peers.html which states that "A baron is styled Right Honourable and formally by the Sovereign Right trusty and well-beloved cousin (and counsellor when a Member of the Privy Council)." This applies equally to a baroness in her own right, which is what a Life Baroness is, and this is why peers who are Privy Counsellors have the letters PC appended to denote their membership.--Westminsterboy 23:16, 25 November 2005 (UTC)