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Archive 5 | ← | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | → | Archive 15 |
Combining Talk Discussions Re Disney Film Lists
Dear SpikeJones, Kasper2006, Elikrotupos, SWatsi, Blitz Lutte, NealP, LtPowers, SofaKing381222, Collectionian, Cartoon Boy, Casey14, Chris1219, NuclearWarfare, SkinnyPrude, and Parker 1297:
Recently, it appears that you all have been interested in the various Disney discussions regarding the proper categorization of Disney animated films. There has been recent activity regarding the proper structure of the various Disney feature length film lists. Unfortunately the discussions regarding the lists / pages are taken place on a number of talk pages. Before we get further into a long discussion regarding the various structural issues with regards to List of Disney theatrical animated features, Template:Disney theatrical animated features, Walt Disney Animated Classics, Category:Disney animated features canon, List of Disney feature films and what ever other lists are out there, I would suggest that we somehow combine the discussions (both past and present) into one place. This will allow easy review on single page for users interested in this matter. It will also allow future users an easy access to whatever rational is used to support the structure of the various lists (including keeping or merging certain lists.). I believe that in placing this discussion in one central location, it alleviates repetitive discussion, allows issues are not constantly revisited in different locations and hopefully sets the future standard in updating the various lists with the verifiable sources. I honestly do not know if there is Misplaced Pages policy on this, nor do I know what the proper way of creating such a place. But I do believe it would useful.
I have posted this suggestion on the all the User’s talk pages above and apologize if I have missed any person who may be interested in this matter. If you know of a user interested in this matter, please invite any that person to discuss these issues. .If I have included you and you have no interest in this matter, I sincerely apologize and please delete this message.
cc:
Flair Girls, creator of Template:Disney theatrical animated features
FuriousFreddy, creator of Category:Disney animated features canon
Plainsong, creator of List of Disney feature films
Sincerely yours, Jvsett (talk) 04:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if I ever participated in such a discussion, but my advice to you would be to find a WikiProject, such as WP:WikiProject Disney and have a detailed discussion on its talk page. NW (Talk) 11:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for your response. That is what we have done. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Disney/Animated Film Article Cleanup. Please feel free to join us if you wish. Thanks. Jvsett (talk) 04:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Talkback
Hello, NuclearWarfare. You have new messages at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_adminship/Colds7ream.You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Colds7ream (talk) 09:32, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
User:Logger9/Kaplan_University
I have posted the following message on the Discussion page for the brief article on Kaplan University. Please advise. -- logger9 (talk) 23:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
"I would like to propose the above additions to the existing article, as seen on my current user page. Please let me know if you have any objections to these changes; and if so, why. If I do not receive any response to this posting within several days, then I will assume there is no problem with me posting it. Thanks !"
- Logger9's edits are glariingly POV and make the article appear as if it was written by Kaplan's marketing dept. If there's some useful edit they'd like to make, that's fine...but the rewrites logger9 has done does nothing more than fluff up the article.--averagejoe (talk) 03:33, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- That is not true at all. Perhaps the edits have not been perfectly following NPOV, but they do contain some useful information. The more proper thing to do in the case is to comment those sections out and help rewrite them, which is what I tried to do by improving it as much as I could in the time that I had, and adding an {{advert}} tag to hopefully draw more attention to the article. Perhaps you could help out in making that article more NPOV? NW (Talk) 15:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Outline update - Good news and bad news - 06/08/2009
The big push continues.
And it seems to be working!
The good news is that there's growing support for outlines, and there are more editors than ever editing them!
The bad news is that the complainers are disproportionately represented on the project's various talk pages. While many editors work diligently on the front end, a handful of complainers are trying to tear down the project behind the scenes. Fortunately, barely enough supporters have been watching those pages that no consensus for moving or merging the outlines has succeeded. So far...
Big problem: ignorance of what outlines are for and their benefits
Most of the opposition seems to be unaware of the complete range of what outlines are used for. They just don't get it.
This is why it is important to complete the outline article draft. An article with a comprehensive treatment of outlines would be the perfect place to refer anybody unfamiliar with outlines to.
Opposers also don't seem to understand how outlines differ from some other page type that they prefer. Some think articles are good enough as an overview, others think portals are more in-depth, still others think categories or navigation boxes are the most efficient and useful way to organize and present topical information. Some have simply never seen an "Outline of" page before and think they are a new type of page (they've been around under other names since 2001).
If you run across anyone who doesn't understand the role of outlines on Misplaced Pages, Misplaced Pages:Why do we have outlines in addition to...? might help reduce their misconceptions or uncertainties about outlines.
On the bright side, you've got to see this...
To add the outlines and related support pages to your watchlist (takes less than 30 seconds), cut and paste them from Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist into your raw watchlist. For a way to improve the display of your watchlist - by namespace (very useful) - see Watchlist sorter, or use the "super fast upgrade" at WP:OTS.
Or go to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist using Related changes (currently without the talk pages) and click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu on the sidebar on the left side of your screen.
The big push
The big push started with about a thousand banners and notices being placed on article talk pages all over Misplaced Pages.
But it didn't stop there...
Welcome our new members...
The following Wikipedians have joined the OOK team.
Be sure to stop by their talk pages and introduce yourselves.
- Tarheel95 - going after the Main Page.
- Vivio Testarossa / Feinoha - here to help.
- Burningview - made a splash at MfD with Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of British Columbia (see the talk page for the MfD link - lots of support there).
Enter the mentors!
I asked a bunch of mentors at WP:ADOPT for advice. Several of them answered on my talk page. Most of those who replied were happy to help, and posted some very good ideas. A couple even joined the project.
Here are their ideas, and what is being done about them. A few of the tasks still need volunteers:
- Strdst grl: Create and place project banners - already Done
- Strdst grl & The Earwig: put an animated ad for the project in WP:BANNER - Our graphics specialist Penubag is looking into it.
- Strdst grl: Create a userbox for the project - assigned to Penubag.
- Garden: Ask to have outlines added to next year's WikiCup competition - Done (proposal posted)
- Tarheel95: Add a link to Portal:Contents/Outline of knowledge to the Main Page - Tarheel95 is taking on the creation of the proposal
- SriMesh: Create an outreach subpage to WPOOK - Done (invitation coming soon, see below)
- SriMesh: (Create a newsletter archive subpage) - Done
- SriMesh: Add a feed to AlexNewArtBot to gather links to new outlines and post them on a page. Then personally invite new creators to the project. - who wants to tackle the feed?
- SriMesh: Assign someone to monitor the outlines via watchlist, and invite new outline editors to the project - any volunteers?
- Related: Create an invitation - Penubag is working on it.
- SriMesh: Create Template:Expand outline similar to Template:Expand list, which adds each outline it is posted on to Category:Incomplete outlines, where editors (who are browsing the categories) can find them and work on them - to be assigned
- SriMesh: Add the above template to incomplete outlines - upcoming AWB task
- The Earwig: "Tell your wikifriends about it" - I've told mine, have you told yours?
- The Earwig: "Collaborate with other WikiProjects" - we've been doing this from the start (each outline is associated with at least one other WikiProject).
- : move the projected outline to a subpage of WP:WPOOK - Done
Linking to outlines has begun
To the tops of about 30 subject articles, I placed a test batch of hatnotes leading to the corresponding outlines. The hatnotes look like this:
- For a topical guide to this subject, see Outline of X.(Hidden: <!- PLEASE LEAVE THIS LINE IN PLACE because it leads to the page that serves as the table of contents for Misplaced Pages's overall coverage of this subject. Thank you.-->
The rationale for the hatnotes is that each outline is a topical guide for its subject, and since tables of contents go at the front of a book, a link to each outline should be placed at the front of its subject.
Unfortunately, not all editors agree. Some of the hatnotes have already disappeared. :(
Some past discussions pertaining to the existence or location of outlines
Note that the "Lists of topics" are of two types, including outlines and indexes, so discussions to remove, move, or merge those are usually relevant to the OOK. Also, outlines are a type of list, so discussions that affect lists in general also pertain to outlines. We've got to be on our toes!
- Misplaced Pages:Move navigational lists to portal namespace
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Outline of Islamic and Muslim related topics
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Outline of South Africa
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of basic visual arts and design topics
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of basic mining topics
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of basic management topics
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of basic industrial topics
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of basic computer science topics
- Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of basic Canada topics
- User talk:The Transhumanist/Archive 21#Question copied from Juliancolton's page
- Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Drafts/Outline of British Columbia
- Talk:Switzerland#Orphaned article: Outline of Switzerland
- Outline of science converted to redirect by Dbachmann
- Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy)/Archive 64#"Outlines"
- Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive193#Shadow Misplaced Pages
- Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 47#OoK's expediency
I've excluded links to live discussions, out of respect for WP:CANVASS.
Table of contents to OOK-related stuff
Here's a directory of outline support pages:
Keep up the great work!
The Transhumanist 03:22, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Re: COI
Nah, looks good as far as I can tell. –Juliancolton | 04:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. I just wanted to be doubly careful that this draft would be good enough to mainspace. NW (Talk) 14:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
WPOOK advert banner under development, here's the beta...
Penubag needs feedback.
I've posted a few changes for him to make to it.
Please post additional comments and suggestions for him at User talk:Penubag#Chocolate banner.
Thank you.
The Transhumanist 02:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Need help explaining WikiCup proposal
I posted a proposal to add outlines to next year's WikiCup, and nobody there seems to understand outlines.
Help.
The Transhumanist 04:10, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Outline collaboration!
As you know, Penubag is working on a banner to advertise the Outline WikiProject. And he's almost done.
The banner prominently presents the "Outline of chocolate", which of course will become the most widely advertised outline as soon as the banner goes live. The first thing many editors will do after seeing the banner is look for that outline.
The problem is, we don't have one.
So that's our first outline collaboration!
I started a draft this morning.
It needs to be finished and moved to the article namespace before we can start using Penubag's banner ad!
Come join in on the fun. It's chocolate!
The Transhumanist 21:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
AWB task - place banner on country WikiProjects' talk pages
ResolvedYou might want to run this by your friend Martin before you start. I didn't see a way to apply his code from the last time (because the subject pages have "WikiProject" in the title).
This is a 2-pass AWB task, and I doubt it will work on all of them (which means checking and correcting afterwards).
Pass one
First, set AWB to skip non-existing pages.
Set the option to bypass redirects.
Also set AWB to skip pages with "subject is featured in the". (That's so it will skip the pages I've already placed the banner on).
Then make a list from User:The Transhumanist/Sandbox15 (list of country WikiProject talk pages). Some anonymous IP dude tweaked the page - so if this step doesn't work, let me know.
Then append the following to the top of each page:
{{subst:User:The Transhumanist/Sandbox16}}
Doing...NW (Talk) 04:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)- One question here, before I finish this task. Am I supposed to be posting on the WikiProject pages, or on the WikiProject talk pages? You said the latter, but gave me a link to the former. NW (Talk) 04:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- the talk pages for the WikiProjects. I'm looking at my Sandbox15 in another window, and they look like Misplaced Pages talk links to me. Where's the link you were referring to? The Transhumanist 04:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I just purged the sandbox's talk page, in case its new data wasn't showing up. It should work now. Let me know what you see on sandbox15. The Transhumanist 04:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I see WT, but AWB makes them come up as WP. I'll just convert them properly and move on ;) NW (Talk) 04:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I just purged the sandbox's talk page, in case its new data wasn't showing up. It should work now. Let me know what you see on sandbox15. The Transhumanist 04:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Did you set AWB to skip non-existing pages? The Transhumanist 04:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did. I made a mistake the first time, but I rollbacked/G7'd everything, so this pass, everything should go well :)
- I don't think I should be doing this when I am tired. I'm sorry. Should I be appending or preprending this? Appending this puts the notice at the wrong place, while it messes it up as well. Could you advise please? NW (Talk) 04:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- The library is closing now. We should try this again tomorrow. I'll go over the instructions to see if I can improve them. The Transhumanist 05:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I don't think I should be doing this when I am tired. I'm sorry. Should I be appending or preprending this? Appending this puts the notice at the wrong place, while it messes it up as well. Could you advise please? NW (Talk) 04:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I did. I made a mistake the first time, but I rollbacked/G7'd everything, so this pass, everything should go well :)
- Did you set AWB to skip non-existing pages? The Transhumanist 04:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- ✓ Done NW (Talk) 20:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Pass two
Then run AWB on the same list to make the following search/replace:
Search for:
"WPT|WikiProject "
(without the quotes but with the space following it)
And replace with:
"WPT|"
(without the quotes)
- ✓ Done NW (Talk) 20:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Comments
Then check each one (using Linky?), and fix any redlinks.
The idea is to post {{Outline of knowledge coverage WPT}} on each country WikiProject talk page and have the link to its corresponding outline show up correctly.
For examples of what it is supposed to look like, I've already placed it on Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Algeria, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Albania, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Åland, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Afghanistan, and Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Abkhazia.
Thank you.
Good luck. :)
Have fun!
The Transhumanist 22:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you were to add the following
{{Outline of knowledge coverage WPT|{{subst:PAGENAME}}}}
onto, say Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Abkhazia, then the outcome will be Template:Outline of knowledge coverage WPT which is probably not what you want! I'll have a think about this and if I come up with anything then I'll let you know. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- I thought I might have found a way to remove the first 12 characters from the parameter using string functions, but unfortunately these cannot be substituted. So I'm back at square 1. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Regex gadget
They've added a gadget tab in "my preferences", and there's a regex menu you can activate.
Let me know if it's any good. )
(several minute delay...)
Wow.
But the documentation is confusing. If you install it via "my preferences", don't install it again via the instructions in the documentation! It will double up the menu on the sidebar. It's double on mine, and I can't get rid of the copy. :(
The menu shows up when you are in edit mode, but it will not work if you are in WikEd.
Just click on "Custom regex" and an input form will appear above your edit window. I didn't notice the damn thing right away, because you have to scroll up to see it!
Have fun.
The Transhumanist 00:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
AWB task - place WikiProject banner on index articles' talk pages
WP:WPINDEX is the sister project of WP:WPOOK. (Outlines are tables of contents, which go hand-in-hand with indexes).
And because indexes are prominently linked to from the outlines, we've been cleaning them up. (Outlines have an uncanny ability to reveal problem areas that need tending to, but that's a good thing).
What I need you to do is, make a list using AWB (with its "What links here" feature), of all the articles that link to the applicable alphabetical templates listed at Category:TOC templates. (You can use "make list" to input the links from more than one page). There are some non-alphabetical ones in there - please do not include those (which means you'll need to spot check some pages that link to each template before you include them in the list). Also, do not include the ones for category pages. Just the ones for alphabetical list articles.
Then save the list you've made to a file, and convert the links to talk space links.
Set AWB to skip pages that include "{{WikiProject Index}}" (without the quotes)
Also set AWB to skip non-existing pages (just in case). We don't want to add the template to the talk pages of redirects. (Make sure you cover all the bases on this, as I might have left out a step).
Then clear the list in AWB, and load your converted list. Use AWB's list filter feature to filter it so that it only includes links to pages in the talk namespace (article talk pages only).
Set AWB to prepend this: {{WikiProject Index}}
Then run AWB on the task.
This is a big task, affecting thousands of pages, so be careful. Look at some pages that link to Template:WikiProject Index before you start the task, to see the desired result. This banner should only be placed on the talk pages of articles which are alphabetical lists.
Thank you.
Good luck.
Have fun.
The Transhumanist 00:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: You can use the "sandbox" method you mentioned from the previous (glossary) task.
- Are you sure that this should affect thousands of pages? The total list I came out to, unfiltered, was about ~550. Filtered to onl ythe article and talk pages, it becomes only about 30 or so. Are you sure you gave me the right link? NW (Talk) 02:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what is going wrong. But if you go to the Template:CompactTOC (which is one of those listed at Category:TOC templates) and click on "What links here", select "article" space, then click on "500", you'll see that this one template alone is placed on around 1200 articles! Maybe you should try AWB on this template first, to get the hang of it. The Transhumanist 03:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- That...is really weird. Is there any chance that you could create the lists, save it as an XML file, and email me that file (email on my userpage). That would be great if you could do that, because I can't generate more than 30 pages... NW (Talk) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'll look into it from this end. In the meantime, you have another pretty big task further up the page to complete...
- That...is really weird. Is there any chance that you could create the lists, save it as an XML file, and email me that file (email on my userpage). That would be great if you could do that, because I can't generate more than 30 pages... NW (Talk) 03:46, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what is going wrong. But if you go to the Template:CompactTOC (which is one of those listed at Category:TOC templates) and click on "What links here", select "article" space, then click on "500", you'll see that this one template alone is placed on around 1200 articles! Maybe you should try AWB on this template first, to get the hang of it. The Transhumanist 03:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- OK, we'll do this task in batches. Batch 1 is on User:The Transhumanist/Sandbox43. Make a list from it using AWB, and filter out the "Glossary of" pages before you begin the run. Make sure you set up AWB for the task first, as mentioned above. ;)
- I'll try to prepare as much as I can - but the library closes in about 20 minutes! The Transhumanist 04:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Done with batch 1. Thanks for your assistance; please tell me when you want me to do the next batch. NW (Talk) 21:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try to prepare as much as I can - but the library closes in about 20 minutes! The Transhumanist 04:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Previous task
Somebody came along and edited one of my sandboxes, and turned its talk page into a parameter input box, turning the combo into a power tool! Cool trick. Unfortunately, he accidentally placed the wrong input data on the talk page, foiling the task. I've fixed that, so you should be good to go.
#AWB task - place banner on country WikiProjects' talk pages
Let me know if it doesn't work. :)
The Transhumanist 03:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- There seems to be a bug; all the templates have a red link. I also think that you shouldn't spam such notices in such an attention-seeking way at the top of Wikiproject talk pages. Please fix the links or remove the templates. Thank you, Kusma (talk) 20:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- Links fixed; I was in the middle of my first pass when you posted to me, and I had yet to go through my second pass. NW (Talk) 22:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- There is no bug. It was a 2-part task. We knew it would produce redlinks, and the 2nd-pass fixed them.
- NW, I've fixed the remaining redlinks, and have rearranged the banners so that the WikiProjects' own banners come first. Done
- The Transhumanist 23:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
- I generally object to making WikiProject talk pages to display one single article so prominently while there may be many others that are much more important to the project to fix. Invitations to work on articles are fine, but you post them in the bottom sections like everyone else, not in a special banner at the top. I have removed the banner from the Germnay project talk page. Kusma (talk) 07:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- The Transhumanist 23:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
Batch 2
I'll have batch 2 of the indexes ready for you in about 15 minutes.
The Transhumanist 23:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
OK, batch 2 is in User:The Transhumanist/Sandbox43. Filter out everything that doesn't have the word "List" in the title! And make sure you read the task's instructions again, just to make sure you don't overlook anything.
Cool.
Good luck.
Have fun.
The Transhumanist 23:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: I'm logging off. I'm outa here. See you tomorrow.
- Have a nice night!
(Almost)✓ Done NW (Talk) 01:03, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
2013
i am not getting mad but i believe that the completion of 1 world trade center is important so please dont erase it is important —Preceding unsigned comment added by Westmc9th (talk • contribs) 00:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- The thing is, we cannot be sure that the Freedom Tower will be created by then. For example, it may be delayed by construction delays, budget problems, etc. We try to only include things that are sure to happen, like solar eclipses and such, before the actually happening of the event. NW (Talk) 00:55, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Kaplan and Logger9
I tried to work with you regarding the Kaplan University article and Logger9's problematic edits. I was fine with the materials being commented out until corrected, but evidently Logger9 doesn't subscribe to that methodology. They added it all back in...no relevant references, little relevant material, no consensus, no discussion. I edited it down to fit, tagged the appropriate sections, asked for additional assistance. Logger9 would do well to move on to a topic they are capable of editing - perhaps something technical - but this page and Logger9 don't seem tto be a good fit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JRStutler (talk • contribs) 21:40, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Jennifer Korbee Photo
You told me that it doesn't seem as if I have adequate permission to upload the photo; I'm not sure how to denote this, but Tom Korbee (owner of TCKPHOTO and photographer of this image) sent me a message asking me to put up this photo for him. He also told me that he would e-mail the Misplaced Pages staff to let them know that I have permission to use his image. Please let me know how to avoid deletion. Thanks! JennFan24 (talk) 12:15, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sure thing. Could you just have him email permissions-en@wikimedia.org with a confirmation? That should take care of everything. Thanks, NW (Talk) 12:44, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!
Much obliged :) Durova 20:04, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Hmm ( global sysops )
I just undid your change, but are you saying that global sysops don't have +ops rights on en.wiki? –xeno 22:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- The global sysop system is set up so that each project has to opt into the global sysop list. Once the project opts into the list, only then will a global sysop have the technical ability to block, delete, etc. on that particular project. Since enwiki never gained the consensus for adding itself to the global sysop list, I decided to just go ahead and mark it as rejected. NW (Talk) 22:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- where can I read about this? (feel free to undo my change, or I will after I've read up on it) –xeno 22:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- m:Global sysops and its associated talk page should explain everything. NW (Talk) 22:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. These global rights things always throw me for a loop. Once I asked a global bot op to file a BRFA. =) egg, meet face. –xeno 22:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha. And sure, no problem. I was glad to help you out. NW (Talk) 22:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Looks like only 1 wiki even bothered opting in? heh. –xeno 22:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- There was an proposal last year, to have all projects have to opt-out if they didn't want global sysops, but that could not attain the consensus needed to activate it. The new process kind of just died. NW (Talk) 22:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, that explains it then. cheers, –xeno 22:41, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- There was an proposal last year, to have all projects have to opt-out if they didn't want global sysops, but that could not attain the consensus needed to activate it. The new process kind of just died. NW (Talk) 22:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Looks like only 1 wiki even bothered opting in? heh. –xeno 22:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Haha. And sure, no problem. I was glad to help you out. NW (Talk) 22:36, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. These global rights things always throw me for a loop. Once I asked a global bot op to file a BRFA. =) egg, meet face. –xeno 22:35, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- m:Global sysops and its associated talk page should explain everything. NW (Talk) 22:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
- where can I read about this? (feel free to undo my change, or I will after I've read up on it) –xeno 22:32, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Withdraw for RfA
I will withdraw tomorrow (or today if I get to many opposes). wwesocks 01:06, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Notability?
Wow, how does a reference linking to that business website make the building notable? In my opinion it only makes it spamlike as this isn't a reliable third party source as required by WP:RS. So I guess I am very curious how the notability was established. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:36, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Per WP:BEFORE, such an article, which is semi-well well-written and indicates that there could be more out there on the topic, ought to be researched for more reliable sources, and tagged with {{prod}} or sent to WP:AFD if there is none. Sincerely, NW (Talk) 18:40, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- A lot of spam articles are well written but this clearly fails the notability requirements I would quote. "Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in an article and should be appropriate to the claims made; if an article topic has no reliable sources, Misplaced Pages should not have an article on it." Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Per WP:BEFORE: "When nominating an article for deletion due to sourcing or notability concerns, make a good-faith attempt to confirm that such sources aren't likely to exist." I just wanted to check that no sources really did exist; feel free to retag the article with Prod if you cannot find any. NW (Talk) 18:48, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- A lot of spam articles are well written but this clearly fails the notability requirements I would quote. "Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in an article and should be appropriate to the claims made; if an article topic has no reliable sources, Misplaced Pages should not have an article on it." Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- I allready nominated for AFD, I just personally thought it was a waste of time tp have to do that on what I considered obvious spam. oh well the sky isn't falling and the worlds not ending so nothing to lose sleep over. Cheers Hell in a Bucket (talk) 18:50, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Harshad Chopra
Still I am not satisfied his notability. I live India. There is lost of tele-soap actor working in India. At present in India here 80-100 channel running 24 hours 30 min slot a tele-soap. In each tele-soap there near about 100 actor actress and crew. Are you think all are notable?- Jayanta Nath 18:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Wow; I knew that India has a lot of soaps, but I never thought there were that many. Those are quite a bit of actors/actresses. However, something that debates the subjective nature of notability should be argued at WP:AFD instead. See User:SoWhy/Common A7 mistakes#The big mistakes for more about when A7 should be used. NW (Talk) 18:50, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
WPOOK's advert banner is done!
Is it perfect? Can it be improved?
Penubag loves feedback. Please let him know if it can be further improved.
Thank you.
The Transhumanist 22:54, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Kempthorn Prosser COI
Hi NW - I've responses to your addition of the COI template to this article on its talk page. I've also removed the {{advert}} tag, since I see no evidence that it is any way like an advertisement (which would be pointless anyway, considering that the company no longer exists). I can understand the concern, given one of the main editors' user name, but (s)he's been kept in check by other editors. Grutness...wha? 02:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, OK, thank you. I was just going through that article while patrolling the back end of the Special:NewPages run rather at a frantic pace (as the backlog is getting pretty bad), and I am afraid I must have clicked advert, gone back and changed it, and just messed up somewhere there. As for the {{coi}} tag, feel free to remove the tag; I didn't investigate the history past the last diff, so I am unsure if anyone else has gone over the article. NW (Talk) 02:13, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. I know what it's like to go through a patrolling backlog at high speed - it's easy to get one wrong without realising it! Keep up the good work :) Grutness...wha? 06:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Banner
Ok, I added 0.1 seconds to each of the first 10 articles. The other articles that appear are actually duplicates and the final frame is just a whole screen of text. Those I kept short since we wouldn't want anyone to notice those :). -- penubag (talk) 06:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
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A suggestion and a request (new member task)
We have a new member on the advanced wiki-tools team. Maybe you'd like to welcome User talk:MacMed.
I've given him his first task, but I don't have much online time today (and I'm unsure how much I'll be on over the next couple of days). Would you be so kind as to check in on him from time and see how he's doing?
I'd appreciate it.
Thank you.
The Transhumanist 23:09, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sure thing, TT (Hmm, what can I call you?). NW (Talk) 23:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- TT is fine. He'll probably figure it out. Even though it looks like pi. :) The Transhumanist 23:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
And a task for you...
The same as MacMed's task, except do it on the Geography and places section of the OOK (using your own sandbox page of course).
I've already done the continent of Africa (and all its countries), so skip those.
Thank you.
Good luck.
Have fun.
The Transhumanist 23:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
- Done with Europe, but I am a bit tired, and I wonder if it is possible for someone else to do the rest of them. The ones still left to do are at User:NuclearWarfare/TranshumanistTaskOf231914June2009. NW (Talk) 00:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
Wee wee
You want to delete just the talk, or the talk and the redirect? I'm confused. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 00:29, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
- Just this page please, not the actual redirect page. Also, Durova wants me to invite you to WikiVoices; do you have a Skype account? NW (Talk) 00:54, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Nicolas Jacques Pelletier
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