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Please do discuss

I have no issues if you undo the changes I have made. Would really appreciate a note either here or alongside the edit subject . Thanks and warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 11:45, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism not required

If vandalism continues, no one gets the advantage. So my request to the people whitewashing edits is that instead of trying to destroy relevant edits, kindly discuss on this page any changes you might want, however insensible they might sound. If there is general acceptance for the change, it will surely be included. Vandalism is of no use as administrators will end up blocking the page within hours of such whitewashing occurring. Hope sense prevails. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 07:19, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Mirnal, you could also set an example by first discussing changes you want to make, and providing wiki policy-based reasons for it, instead of making a dozen specious changes in a row. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:33, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Surely. I've redone the changes. Do discuss your points of view with respect to those, out here. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 09:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

You have it backwards. Please propose your changes here, first. And when you do edit the article, confine your changes to one section at a time. Wholesale changes to the entire article will only result in wholesale reverts. ~Amatulić (talk) 20:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the changes as have been made in the past day(s) seem relevant enough. Having said that, this discussion page should necessarily be used (most preferably) before making controversial changes. For example, the controversy section should NOT be deleted till a majority vote or consensus vote has been taken. And even that has to be given at least a week of time for enough responses to come in. Thanks! I'll be putting up the link to this page on discussion forums so that interested people can chime in with their suggesions/vote Deborah Fernandes (talk) 10:24, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposing deletion of Controversy section

As the controversy section is fairly outdated and holds no relevance now, given the High Court rulings favouring IIPM, I propose deleting the complete controversy section. Please do give in your suggestions. Also, kindly do not revert changes blindly to previous editions. Try and rework the changes after discussing them here. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 10:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

What makes you say it is out of relevance? Joshua Artgobain Benedict (talk) 10:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Seems to be sensible. I say it's ok to delete the controversy section. Addy kundu (talk) 11:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I disagree. It is still very relevant. And is properly cited. Ponytailsnipper (talk) 19:13, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I also agree that the controversy surrounding IIPM is an established part of its history and should be described in this article, as history in the past tense. I recommend proposing major changes here before putting them in the article. ~Amatulić (talk) 20:06, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Seeing the background, I agree controversy section can be deleted as in the current context, it seems just a laborious attempt to include details which anyway seem to have been taken care of by the court order. Joshua Artgobain Benedict (talk) 09:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Can be deleted. Conditional acceptance. I've written down details on User Mrinal Pandey's talk page (talk) Carlisle Rodham (talk) 10:09, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, delete! But we should wait for at least a week for views from other editors/followers of this page as only then can a majority account be taken. Deborah Fernandes (talk) 10:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

hi, i am Solanki Kumar.....i feel that it can be deleted as it doesn't cover the current context...rest up to all you guys...it was just an opinion... (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 11:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC).

Dude Controversy are past and i feel people are interested in current and updated happenings, so i guess no problem if it gets deleted....--Sumitpatel12 (talk) 11:28, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

i feel deletion of old stuff and updation with current happenings is right--Ianchapell (talk) 11:41, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, True Pictures are always the current one, so old has nothing to do and say, so best is to delete it--Maheshbopara (talk) 11:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

I wrote this on Carlisle Rodham's page too. Though the above responses are in my favour, would request the administrators to check whether the above responses are sock puppets. I hope I'm not offending real users out of the above; for if you guys are real users, my sincere apologies. I'm just trying to make sure that a vote, even if in my favour, is not placed here unethically. Thanks and apologies again. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 07:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Having said that, before deleting the Controversy section (given enough aye votes) I have - to be the devil's advocate - jumped to the other side to place a tag requesting dated factually accurate information requirement on the controversy paragraph. If you think it is not appropriate, please feel free to remove the same. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 07:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC); and as I believe that four or five days have passed since the issue was raised, and some views - however incredible - have been given, I have placed a dead note tag in front of the controversy section; effectively putting in action the process of deletion of this section. In case you wish to include the section back, I believe you will have to - as some of the editors put it to me, and I followed before deleting the Controversy section - place the reinclusion move to a discussion, and given majority approval or a consensus, reinclude it by removing the dead note. Thank you and regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 23:25, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

You did delete the controversies section after all! And all these people here are sock-puppets and/or SPAs. Have undone the whitewashes. Makrandjoshi (talk) 17:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Is this page locked?

If this page is locked for editing, can you please put a sign on top of it? Joshua Artgobain Benedict (talk) 10:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

The Talk page is not protected. The main article page is temporarily semi-protected due to excessive vandalism and there is a sign on the page's top. -- Alexf 14:16, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Joshua, I guess you would have been confused yesterday as the warning tag had been accidentally removed. It has been placed back at the relevant portion. Ciao Deborah Fernandes (talk) 10:18, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Please justify your acts...

As you can see the history page

Mr. Makrandjoshi.. might be an administrator or an old editor but his acts of reverting down back to the old content to the IIPM page without justifying with proofs...seems that he himself is one of the sock puppets....

Humble request to all of you Please if you intend to do changes even you are an administrator or an old editors, you need to justify your act other wise it will be considered as whitewashing. Kindly mind your acts... Even if you think my acts were not justified , you are always welcomed to notify me but in a right manner by justifying your act in respect proving that my act was wrong according to the rules--Carlisle Rodham (talk) 07:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

There's a very simple justification. I have not made any unjustified changes to the article. Just reverted it to the state it was a few days ago before you unilaterally decided to overhaul it. You have made sweeping subjective changes to the page without discussing them here on the talk page, or even providing a wiki policy reasoning. In several cases, you have thrown out correctly cited material, especially from the introduction part. You can't make more than a dozen unilateral changes to the page without any discussion or wiki policy citing, and then expect it to stick. Please discuss the changes here first, let's reach an agreement on them being WP:NPOV, and then make changes. My own "humble request" to you. Let's not go on a reverting spree. The current state that the page in, is how it was for weeks and months under the editlock. That is what should serve as the starting point for further changes. So please, instead of reverting, open up talk sections here, let's discuss changes and then make them. Makrandjoshi (talk) 19:32, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Your version doesn't have the latest and updated things, so i feel please provide yourself a cross-checking by updating yourself with latest happening.--Carlisle Rodham (talk) 07:26, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

OK Carlisle, right now I am going on good faith assumptions and not reverting your version. Even if you have added some new and latest things, you have left out portions from the old ones without any reason, so adding those portions back. Makrandjoshi (talk) 12:17, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

High Court Judgment

Mirnal and Carlise have both been talking about a High Court judgment that apparently "snubs UGC", and says it can't stop IIPM from offering MBA and BBA degrees. However, the link you had cited (from www.prnews.com) was dead, and I searched on google but did not find any other news site saying the same. What I did find was a number of articles saying that the Delhi High Court asking UGC and IIPM to reach an agreement in which UGC removes its name from a fake university list, and IIPM agrees to clarify that it offers just "certificate courses", meant to get students ready for MBA and BBA degrees, and does not actually offer degree courses. http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/iipm-will-be-deleted-from-fake-varsity-list-ugc-tells-hc/328522/ Hence, have made changes accordingly, with the proper cites. Makrandjoshi (talk) 12:47, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Further googling lead me to some pages that mention the "HC snubs UGC" thing, but they are all either blogs, or forums or then press release aggregators, all using the exact same content. Which leads me to wonder if this was just a press release put out by IIPM. Unlike the other story about IIPM and UGC reaching an agreement, which appeared in Indian Express, Economic Times, and other mainstream media outlets, this "HC snubs UGC" story has not appeared in any credible third-party new source. Hence, even if someone digs up another prnews.com type source, I submit that it does not meet the reliable sources policy standards http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Sources#Sources and can not be included in the article. Makrandjoshi (talk) 12:54, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Rankings Cites

I have doubts regarding IIPM being in Zee Business Best B-school rankings. The cites provided are again all press releases by IIPM itself and don't meet the wiki policy reliable sources standard I have linked to above. Mrinal or Carisle, please provide a citation from a respected mainstream media source. Or better still, from a Zee website (like you have provided for the other Zee ranking mention). Please provide reliable cites soon, else I propose deleting the text. Also, I see not cites for the acnielsen-orgmarg rankings, so removing them. Makrandjoshi (talk) 13:05, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Sock puppet theory

Hi. I suspected a few ids of being sock puppets. But unless the administrators confirm the same or deny the same, one can't delete or whitewash or revert the changes approved by users, who might as well be real, as they might be sock puppets. Having said that, we'll go by the concept that changes will be made to the final accepted version only after each change has been proposed here for at least a couple of days and discussed upon. I don't think any change, given the sensitivity of thisi page, can be allowed otherwise. Thanks to all editors for understanding. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 06:43, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Mrinal, admins have already confirmed the sock-puppets. But even if we assume they were all real, you still were not justified in deleting the controversy section. Such a major change... even vital change concerning the page, should be made only after consensus. I am opposed to deleting it, as are other editors (such as amatulic) who expressed their opposition. And yet you blatantly disregarded their opposition, and did it anyway. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:50, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Citations

Dear editors, kindly do not revert or delete lines that do not have citations. I see one editor continuously doing that. On a civic level, kindly propose the inclusion of the citation. It will be done within a couple of days; and if not, then propose deletion of that line out here. I should request you all that if that is not done, I will surely request administrators to revert the changes as they would be akin to whitewashing. I propose a continuous discussion out here from here on. Please do understand, this is perhaps one of the most sensitive pages on wiki, and changing even one line from hereon without discussion could result in reverts from so many users whom we have no control on. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Mrinal, please read wiki policy. You need to cite whatever information you add. The onus is on the one adding information to provide cites, and not on others. No one should have to propose inclusion of citations. It's a must. If you really have valid cites, why not wait 2-3 days before adding the content? If uncited material is to be added with a "citation needed" tag, it should be done only after consensus. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Future changes

Dear editors, I propose and request that all future changes - any change, even a revert from here on - will be first discussed here and put up for open discussion for at least two or three days before being made. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 06:53, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Why don't you follow your own advice? You have deleted the whole controversy section without any consensus. This page is being blatantly whitewashed by IIPM-sympathizers and the admins are doing nothing about it. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposing new section on new courses

IIPM seems to have added newer courses in strategic alliance with some foreign b-schools. I propose adding a new section just around the section on courses that not only lists out each specific course in detail, but also lists out the schools with which these are being done. Please comment Mrinal Pandey (talk) 06:58, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Seems interesting, well i feel all of us would like to get updated.--Mohit006 (talk) 07:52, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I am fine with it as long as there are neutral cites (not press releases from IIPM), and not just primary source. There is already too much primary source information here. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposing a section on ISBE

There's some new thing called ISBE that is a separate school of IIPM. I don't have details but on the initial research, it seems to be worth a section. I propose including the same out here as a newer section. Mrinal Pandey (talk) 07:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Use the sandbox for any new sections. If there is consensus, they can be added. Makrandjoshi (talk) 19:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Proposing another section on various Centres at/of IIPM

There seem to be many active Centres at IIPM for various management activities. I propose including those too. Mrinal Pandey (talk) 07:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Please make us aware, kindly add them soon--Fastmovement (talk) 10:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Awards won by IIPM internationally/nationally

I finally propose adding a separate section for awards won by IIPM at both international level and national level. Mrinal Pandey (talk) 07:01, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Awards are the achievements or can say the milestones achieved, i feel this sections should also be created.--Mohit006 (talk) 08:05, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Ranking cite added

Addition of Relevant Ranking cite...

http://www.zeebiz.com/bschool/BSchoolresult.html

Ok, good to see you learning the important of cites. I have reverted to the consensus version. Am now adding back the Zee Business ranking information with this cite. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:54, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Comment about the recent sock puppets

This talk page is full of sock puppets and I have already blocked the most obvious ones. Please stop making more sock puppets to skew the consensus to support your view. It is a blatant violation of WP:SOCK. Secondly, I have reverted the article again to the consensus version since there was no consensus to delete verified and well-cited information, other than the discussion which was riddled with sock puppets. If you have anything you want to add, then please discuss these changes here and make these changes step by step and see if we can work something out. Continuing to disrupt Misplaced Pages with more sock puppets will only get you blocked, and making blatant changes without first establishing consensus, or blantantly ignoring community consensus, is very disruptive and it can get you blocked as well. 山本一郎 (会話) 11:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Yamamoto Ichiro, finally a confirmation on sock puppets, something I had requested earlier too! Thanks! I completely accept your viewpoint that sock puppets' viewpoints should not be accepted. I also wish to add something to what you've said. It'll be really nice if you and the other administrators, keep a check that any and every change is first discussed here before being added; basically so that nobody makes "blatant changes without first establishing consensus, or blantantly ignores community consensus" as you've put it. Having said that, I hope you keep a track on a regular basis to disruptive changes from all editors, including sock puppets. And of course, if any editor - including I - are found to be making such disruptive changes without them being discussed out here, I would encourage you to surely block the person out. Thanks for leaving a descriptive viewpoint. Warm regards, Mrinal Pandey (talk) 12:39, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Seeing as I am the one who removed the full protection, I too have added this article to my watchlist and have been blocking socks rather liberally. Unfortunately, this seems to be more than just your run of the mill case of sockpuppetry and as such I have asked for a CheckUser to keep an eye on the page as well. It appears he has already blocked a few, but if it continues we will probably have to formulate a range block. Like Yamamoto has said above, anyone found to be abusively socking, edit warring, or otherwise disrupting the article be any means will be blocked. Tiptoety 17:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Also, please see Misplaced Pages:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mrinal Pandey. Tiptoety 22:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Mrinal, Sandox

Mrinal, you have proposed a lot of new sections. I suggest using a sandbox for putting up what you propose, and then, if all editors have a consensus, then adding those in. Don't add any new sections unilaterally, and also don't unilaterally delete the sections. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:48, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Consensus, not majority or voting

Mrinal and Carlisle seem to be under the impression that majority, or some straw polls are the last word and binding. They are not. Misplaced Pages works on consensus and not on voting or strawpolls. So your strawpolls for deleting the controversy section, which is properly cited with reliable sources, is not binding unless it helps reach a consensus. And if you are deleting properly cited content without consensus and if it violates NPOV, you are flirting with vandalism. See this http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:!VOTE#Straw_poll_guidelines
A few relevant points -

1. The ultimate goal of any article discussion is consensus, and a straw poll is helpful only if it helps editors actually reach true consensus.
   
2. For that reason, article straw polls are never binding, and editors who continue to disagree with a majority opinion may not be shut out from discussions simply because they are in the minority. Similarly, editors who appear to be in the majority have an obligation to continue discussions and attempts to reach true consensus.
   
3. For the same reason, article straw polls should not be used prematurely. If it is clear from ongoing discussion that consensus has not been reached, a straw poll is unlikely to assist in forming consensus and may polarize opinions, preventing or delaying any consensus from forming.
   
4. Similarly, if a straw poll is inconclusive, or if there is disagreement about whether the question itself was fair, the poll and its results tend to simply be ignored.
   
5. Policies, such as NPOV and article sourcing, can obviously not be overridden by straw polls. People have been known to vote on a fact, which is ultimately pointless.
   

The last point is most important. The Controversy Section only has facts. No opinions. It contains facts about events that happened. So voting on it is pointless. Makrandjoshi (talk) 19:27, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Removing primary source material

There is a lot of primary source material on the page not backed up by third party references. Such material has been there despite long standing requests for adding independent cites. So a lot of this page looks like an advertorial or prospectus for the institute. Removing the same. Makrandjoshi (talk) 18:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Please add these too

Dear Makrand.. Pls add these too.

Under the seciton "Academics" Please add: A large number of students of IIPM are getting absorbing in IIPM's own organisations

Under the section "Unfair trade practices investigations" Please add: In July 2008, in view of IIPM's and other un recognised educational institutes advertisement blitzes in the Indian newspapers, India's cabinet minister for Human Resources Arjun Singh issued an appeal asking students entering the portals of higher education to satisfy themselves that their institutions are recognised under the relevant laws and are of quality and repute. "In particular, you should not merely go by the advertisements issued in the media by higher educational institutions, but satisfy yourselves by all counts in respect of quality and statutory recognition," Singh said in the appeal. Indeed IIPM have been one of the biggest print advertisers in India. IIPM advertises through its subsidiary Planman Consultant India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shankarjaikishen (talk • contribs) 08:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Inviting Discussion

This page is under semi-protect. Whenever the protect has been lifted, sockpuppets or vandals have some to whitewash the page. So I extend an olive branch and invite those who have problems with this page to come and discuss what their problems are. If we get a discussion going, stick to wiki policy and all act in good faith, maybe we can avoid the constant protects on this page. Makrandjoshi (talk) 21:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

You're doing a good job improving the article. If more people like the anonymous editor in the section above come here with suggestions for improvements, we are happy to consider them.

Semi protection is a good compromise. Some articles are indefinitely semi-protected (see Muhammad for example) and I think that's a good idea. It allows established editors to make constructive improvements, and still allows unestablished/anonymous editors to make suggestions on the talk page. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:17, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Kindly remove the following:-

Dear Makrand,

Kindly remove the following:-

IMI is an erstwhile diploma mill and a very private organisation whose degrees are not recognised by any Belgian or Flemish authority, and whose degree-holders can not make claims for further studies or access to regulated professions.

As the sources provided by you are from a blog i.e. (http://thalassamikra.blogspot.com/2005/10/information-pertaining-to-iipm.html) and not from the relevant cites.

--Gurmeet singgh (talk) 10:14, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Gurmeet

The cite is not used for opinion, but for the email in that blog-post from the relevant Belgian regulatory authority. Makrandjoshi (talk) 15:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Nevertheless, blogs are not considered reliable sources regardless of the content. If no reliable sources can be found to support that claim, it should be deleted. Furthermore, the claim seems to violate WP:NPOV by having Misplaced Pages take a position based on what someone put in his blog. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:40, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, Amatulic. I have deleted the contentious content. Makrandjoshi (talk) 19:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Another Call for Discussions

The semi-protect will expire in 3 days. Unless we again want to go through the whole sock-puppets-blind-revet-followed-by-a-protect routine, we need to get some discussion going and reach a consensus that falls under wiki policy. So I invite those who are dissatisfied with this page to come forward and engage in discussion. Unjustified reverts will not get us anywhere and will get the page locked again. So come and discuss your problems as per wiki policy. Else, as Amatulić suggests above, I am afraid I too will be in favor of a permanent semi-protect for this article. Makrandjoshi (talk) 20:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

i am an ex student of iipm. the page on iipm is very very clearly a page that is being manipulated by people and groups with vested interests against iipm to malign the reputation of iipm. after having gone through all the discussion pages its very clear that makrand joshi has an anti iipm agenda and is hell bent on making iipms wiki page a uniquely different page from all other pages of all reputed b schools and universities of the world. i suggest that i be allowed to completely change the page as per the standards of any other page where in the introduction only the official version of an organisation is written. every other additional aspect should necessarily be sent to the controversy section and not remain in the very introduction itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nav1000 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

"in the introduction only the official version of an organisation is written". Nope, that's not what a WP:LEAD is. It's an introduction to whatever the article contains. The "official version" of anything is but one side of any story, and often a less than reliable one at that. DMacks (talk) 16:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Kindly unblock this page as i feel there is lot more that people should know (the real missing facts). Lets have a healthy discussion and make it better and let people know whats is IIPM all about.--Preetigroverr (talk) 04:17, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Requesting unblocking of the page as i feel people who are not aware of the real IIPM has putin the content.--Rohitkapoorr (talk) 06:57, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

You are welcome to have a healthy discussion and make it better here on the talk page and when there is some consensus of specific improvements to make, let admins know by placing a "{{editprotected}} tag. The long history of disruptive editing and sock-puppetry any time the article itself is unprotected have unfortunately ruined any chance of simply unprotecting the article for edits. DMacks (talk) 16:51, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, let's hear about "the real missing facts". If you want a healthy discussion, let's have it. Propose your changes on this talk page. Every time this article is un-protected, vandals come along and start a war, trying to white-wash the documented facts already in this article. If you have additional facts to present, then present them. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:46, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

International Management Institute (Belgium)

This article refers to degrees awarded by the International Management Institute in Belgium. This institution is not registered as a higher education institution in Belgium and can therefore not award recognised degrees. (Not recognised in Belgium means not recognised by any of the federated entities of Belgium)

And to be even more complete: registration is not such a difficult procedure. The accreditation of programmes is a different issue though. See: http://www.highereducation.be and http://www.nvao.net 81.164.220.185 (talk) 14:46, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Unblock Request

Quite clearly, the page should be unlocked as soon as possible for more comments and new editors should be allowed to edit. I find semi-locks strangely and biasedly enforced on this page. It would have been quite easy to block vandals using an approach that I find Wiki administrators using on other pages where:

1. Administrators could block IP addresses of vandals

2. In case vandals use multiple IPs, administrators could use the facility to block IP ranges, which I believe they have.

3. Block user ids of vandals and proxy ids too.

Though I do appreciate that there has been a temporary semi-protect placed some time back, I believe this is a good time to remove it as (and I quote from Wiki policy), "Page protection should not be used solely to prevent editing by anonymous and newly registered users. In particular, it should not be used to settle content disputes." And I hope that this is not the case currently going on with this page as I find it strange that editors who have registered beyond three months are still not allowed to edit. I request administrators to kindly remove the edit lock.

Sincerely, Dean.A.Sandeep (talk) 11:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

The history of protection and vandalism of this article pretty clearly demonstrates that nothing short of the current protection strategy keeps the vandals out, so "as soon as possible" is essentially "probably never":( Anyone and everyone with actual content ideas has been repeatedly invited to propose specific edits and discuss here on the talk-page, and then those edits which seem viable can then be implemented by any established user. This is standard for all articles with any type of protection. Given that users aren't doing this despite years of repeated invites helps reinforce the point that serious editors don't have serious concerns and specific improvements to make. DMacks (talk) 15:10, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I agree. I and other editors monitor this talk page, ready to discuss any suggestions for improving the article. In the past couple of years of article protection, none have been forthcoming.

When this article has been briefly unprotected, it suddenly experiences many edits (often from sockpuppet accounts) without prior discussion. That tells me that those who want to make changes to this article have zero interest in discussing those changes. Misplaced Pages doesn't work that way. If you have suggestions, propose them here. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Careers 360 article

I have edited the article to include in relevant places information published in an investigative article by the Indian education magazine Careers 360 http://www.careers360.in/lead-story/iipm---best-only-in-claims.html Have also added a small subsection under controversies summarizing the findings from the article. Makrandjoshi (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Interestng article

I noticed many links that are either outdated or actually link to news not related with what is being mentiond in the line using the reference. Can I request editors to do the same? I'm only making grammatical corrections, that are more or less minor. Tks Wifione (talk) 08:18, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Please check the following for me guys. Is plagiarism and tax evasion major controversies to be mentioned in the opening para? Tks Wifione (talk) 08:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

And please also help me clear out repetitive lines throughout the description. For example, in various sections, the non-accreditation is mentioned repeatedly. Can we reduce these repetitions? It looks a little too made up. But please discuss and give me suggestions (or kindly do it yourself). Tks Wifione (talk) 08:30, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

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