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== duck socks ==

That socking was so obvious I'm thinking maybe it wasn't even done with malicious intent. –<font face="verdana" color="black">]</font>] 18:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
:That sounds fine. I'll keep an eye on that page. –<font face="verdana" color="black">]</font>] 18:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Another notice-posting AWB task

For all the pages listed at User:The Transhumanist/Sandbox15...

Please append the following:

{{subst:User:The Transhumanist/Sandbox16}}

Please set AWB not to skip non-existing pages. (That is, post to empty pages too).

Thank you.

Good luck.

The Transhumanist    00:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Seems that a lot of these WikiProjects either don't exist or have a different name. You have created a lot of inappropriate pages, e.g. Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject the United States and Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject the Cayman Islands. Would you be willing to clean this up? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, regarding this, I was following instructions given to me by another user. I'm not sure about removing the "inappropriate pages" as I don't know what this user, The Transhumanist wants to do with the pages, which is why I have left a message at his talk page, and will be pointing him to this discussion. Hope this helps, The Helpful One 09:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
I didn't catch those on the list. Sorry. You can speedy delete them (they're typos). The Transhumanist    21:59, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Transhumanist, please create a list of those talk pages of non-existant WikiProjects so that they can be deleted in one batch. Amalthea 22:57, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Any progress with this? I see one of the above has disappeared. What about the others? Cheers, — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:17, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Hi there, yes, this has now been done, please see User_talk:Thehelpfulone#Speedy_delete_request. Thanks, The Helpful One 17:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Speedy delete request

Please delete these typo titles:

The Transhumanist    04:59, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Outlines at Wikicup?

Mr Helpful,

I've been asking lots of mentors over at WP:ADOPT for advice, and User:Garden replied with this one: "include some kind of reward at next year's WikiCup"

You're in Wikicup, right?

How would we go about what Garden has suggested?

(I've also asked Juliancolton, because I think he's in wikicup too).

The Transhumanist    03:25, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

NoMultiLicense message delivery

Thanks for doing the delivery! However, I noticed you delivered to user talk page subpages in some cases instead of to the actual user talk pages. Will you clean that up, moving the messages to the user talk pages where they're more likely to see them? Thanks. Anomie⚔ 20:31, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Request: here's the other half of the speedy deletes

Here's the rest that need to be speedied (title typos):

Thank you.

Good luck.

Have fun.

The Transhumanist    03:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops - move request

Someone pointed out that "Category:Articles belonging to WikiProject Outline of knowledge" smacked of ownership.

Ouch.

At least they didn't slap any of us with a trout. (Please don't get any ideas). :)

Please move:

Category:Articles belonging to WikiProject Outline of knowledge

To:

Category:WikiProject Outline of knowledge articles


Thank you.

Good luck.

Have fun.

The Transhumanist    20:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Very funny!

If you really want to play a joke on someone, finish NuclearWarfare's task before he even reads it.  :)

The Transhumanist    22:14, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009 DC meetup notice...?

I received an invitation to this on my talk page, apparently from a bot of yours, but I have indicated in the past that I do not wish to receive these invitations. Is there a way to prevent them from appearing there? Thanks! --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 18:48, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: Oops - move request

Hi there,

It seems that changing the template did the trick for this? Do you have any other plans for any other category renames, because I put through a bot task approval request to do the task - I've been approved for 30 trial edits, but now there's nothing to edit!

The Helpful One 18:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

AWB Task - Category adding task

Category renames, no, but adding categories, yes. But this is a more involved task than you are used to. It's quite a project in its own right...
First, you need to use AWB to make a list from Template:CompactTOC with "What links here", and then save that list to a file and then cut/paste the contents of that file to a sandbox and then edit the list to linkify the entries. Or make a list directly from Template:CompactTOC's "What links here" special page by copying/pasting it to a sandbox and using WP:WikEd's search/replace feature to convert it to links.
Article space links only.
Once you have a list of links. Look it over. They're all alphabetical indexes, but the list is too broad to place them all in Category:Indexes, so you'll need to create subcategories. There are Indexes of people (biographical indexes) in there, and Indexes by region (geographical indexes), and other types. It is best to title the categories as "Indexes of" because then all these categories will turn up together in the "All pages with prefix" special page index.
To split your list of links into lists of specific kinds of indexes, one approach would be to copy the list to another sandbox, then choose a type, and then delete all the links that are not of that type from the list. Then repeat this step (with a new sandbox) for each type of index you've discovered.
But before you do all that splitting, you should choose your index types first, and start a discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Index to get others' opinions. Send a message to each person on our team requesting that they meet you for discussion there (including me).
Once you have split your list into subcategory lists, then you can use each list in AWB to add the appropriate category to the articles listed, using your bot.
If you have any trouble with this task, make a post at WT:WPINDEX and invite your problem solvers to meet you there.
Thank you.
Good luck.
Be patient.
Have fun.
The Transhumanist    19:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
P.S.: Once you are done with this task, you can repeat the process for just the alphabetical article index templates listed at Category:TOC templates.  :) Hint: you can combine all their "What links heres" into one list first.
P.P.S.: I've invited four technical users to comment on this task. (So don't be surprised if people start showing up with advice).  :)
Transhumanist asked me to offer my input, but unfortunately, I don't think I can add much to what's been already said. However, I would point to the HotCat gadget (that can enabled using Special:Preferences) as a tool that could be used in place of a bot for speedily adjusting the categories on a page. AGK 13:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

See Portal:Beer/Selected article and others

You were doing this: BOT: Adding Category:Beer Portal to page using AWB -- now the articles contain </noinclude> strings, please fix. Thanks. feydey (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

D.C. Meet up notice issue?

Hi! I got a notice on my talk page notifying me of this Wiki meet up because my "user page indicates that live in Maryland, Virginia, or DC.)" I have always lived in Texas, which is what my user page indicates! I thought you should know about this error. :)

Thanks and good luck, --Naha| 20:52, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline update - Good news and bad news - 06/08/2009

The big push continues.

And it seems to be working!

The good news is that there's growing support for outlines, and there are more editors than ever editing them!

The bad news is that the complainers are disproportionately represented on the project's various talk pages. While many editors work diligently on the front end, a handful of complainers are trying to tear down the project behind the scenes. Fortunately, barely enough supporters have been watching those pages that no consensus for moving or merging the outlines has succeeded. So far...

Big problem: ignorance of what outlines are for and their benefits

Most of the opposition seems to be unaware of the complete range of what outlines are used for. They just don't get it.

This is why it is important to complete the outline article draft. An article with a comprehensive treatment of outlines would be the perfect place to refer anybody unfamiliar with outlines to.

Opposers also don't seem to understand how outlines differ from some other page type that they prefer. Some think articles are good enough as an overview, others think portals are more in-depth, still others think categories or navigation boxes are the most efficient and useful way to organize and present topical information. Some have simply never seen an "Outline of" page before and think they are a new type of page (they've been around under other names since 2001).

If you run across anyone who doesn't understand the role of outlines on Misplaced Pages, Misplaced Pages:Why do we have outlines in addition to...? might help reduce their misconceptions or uncertainties about outlines.

On the bright side, you've got to see this...

To add the outlines and related support pages to your watchlist (takes less than 30 seconds), cut and paste them from Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist into your raw watchlist. For a way to improve the display of your watchlist - by namespace (very useful) - see Watchlist sorter, or use the "super fast upgrade" at WP:OTS.

Or go to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Outline of knowledge/Watchlist using Related changes (currently without the talk pages) and click on "Related changes" in the toolbox menu on the sidebar on the left side of your screen.

The big push

The big push started with about a thousand banners and notices being placed on article talk pages all over Misplaced Pages.

But it didn't stop there...

Welcome our new members...

The following Wikipedians have joined the OOK team.

Be sure to stop by their talk pages and introduce yourselves.

Enter the mentors!

I asked a bunch of mentors at WP:ADOPT for advice. Several of them answered on my talk page. Most of those who replied were happy to help, and posted some very good ideas. A couple even joined the project.

Here are their ideas, and what is being done about them. A few of the tasks still need volunteers:

Linking to outlines has begun

To the tops of about 30 subject articles, I placed a test batch of hatnotes leading to the corresponding outlines. The hatnotes look like this:

For a topical guide to this subject, see Outline of X.(Hidden: <!- PLEASE LEAVE THIS LINE IN PLACE because it leads to the page that serves as the table of contents for Misplaced Pages's overall coverage of this subject. Thank you.-->

The rationale for the hatnotes is that each outline is a topical guide for its subject, and since tables of contents go at the front of a book, a link to each outline should be placed at the front of its subject.

Unfortunately, not all editors agree. Some of the hatnotes have already disappeared.  :(

Some past discussions pertaining to the existence or location of outlines

Note that the "Lists of topics" are of two types, including outlines and indexes, so discussions to remove, move, or merge those are usually relevant to the OOK. Also, outlines are a type of list, so discussions that affect lists in general also pertain to outlines. We've got to be on our toes!

I've excluded links to live discussions, out of respect for WP:CANVASS.

Table of contents to OOK-related stuff

Here's a directory of outline support pages:

Keep up the great work!

The Transhumanist    03:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

WPOOK advert banner under development, here's the beta...

Penubag needs feedback.

I've posted a few changes for him to make to it.

Please post additional comments and suggestions for him at User talk:Penubag#Chocolate banner.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist    02:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup proposal

Thehelpfulone,

I posted a proposal to add outlines to next year's WikiCup, and nobody there seems to understand outlines.

Help.

The Transhumanist    04:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Outline collaboration!

As you know, Penubag is working on a banner to advertise the Outline WikiProject. And he's almost done.

The banner prominently presents the "Outline of chocolate", which of course will become the most widely advertised outline as soon as the banner goes live. The first thing many editors will do after seeing the banner is look for that outline.

The problem is, we don't have one.

So that's our first outline collaboration!

I started a draft this morning.

It needs to be finished and moved to the article namespace before we can start using Penubag's banner ad!

Come join in on the fun. It's chocolate!

The Transhumanist    21:47, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Regex gadget

They've added a gadget tab in "my preferences", and there's a regex menu you can activate.

Let me know if it's any good. )

(several minute delay...)


Wow.

But the documentation is confusing. If you install it via "my preferences", don't install it again via the instructions in the documentation! It will double up the menu on the sidebar. It's double on mine, and I can't get rid of the copy.  :(

The menu shows up when you are in edit mode, but it will not work if you are in WikEd.

Just click on "Custom regex" and an input form will appear above your edit window. I didn't notice the damn thing right away, because you have to scroll up to see it!

Have fun.

The Transhumanist    00:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

How goes the category adding task above?

Just curious.  :)

The Transhumanist    01:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The task may be more complex than it looks. Before you apply a bot to it, you should use AWB on it semi-manually, to familiarize yourself with the task. There may be some pages in there that don't belong to the index categories. But you won't know until you get to know them better. Also, you don't even know what subcategories you'll be using yet. I suggest you crank a few hundred of these indexes through AWB yourself, to bet a better feel for the task. The Transhumanist    20:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


When you have your lists ready, let me know. Don't start adding categories to articles until we've discussed it thoroughly. This is going to be a tricky one with a rather involved category tree. I look forward to seeing your tree. The Transhumanist    23:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Note

Hello! You said at User_talk:Eusebeus/Archive_6#Incivilty_edits, that "this is your final warning, next time you are incivil, you will be blocked from editing for a period of time." Please note such recent edits as this in which he calls others "Cruftmongering disgruntleds whining". Thus, DGG and then your final warning are still not being heeded. Thank you for your time and help. Sincerely, --A Nobody 17:57, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XIX and XX

The WikiCup Newsletter (last week)

The WikiCup Newsletter
Round III, Issue 1 - June 7, 2009

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Pool leaders

In this round of the WikiCup, the top contestant from each pool, along with four wildcards, will advance to the next round. The pool leaders are:

Pool A
  1. Mitchazenia (40)
Pool B
  1. Iceland Scorpion0422 (38)
Pool C
  1. Denmark Candlewicke (68)
Pool D
  1. Sweden Theleftorium (100)
Wildcard leaders
  1. Mexico Durova (75)
  2. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (47)
  3. United States Useight (46)
  4. Wales Shoemaker's Holiday (35)
Content Leaders

As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:

WikiCup At a Glance

As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a Round 3 total of:

This combines with the Round 1 totals and the Round 2 totals to make a grand total of:

Biggest Jumps

The difference between each contestant's point total from last week, and their point total from this week are:

Rank User LF TF D
1 Sweden Theleftorium 0 100 100
2 Mexico Durova 0 75 75
3 Denmark Candlewicke 0 68 68
4 Republic of Ireland Juliancolton 0 47 47
5 United States Useight 0 46 46
6 Mitchazenia 0 40 40
7 Iceland Scorpion0422 0 38 38
8 Wales Shoemaker's Holiday 0 35 35
9 Thailand Rlevse 0 14 14
10 Japan Wrestlinglover 0 12 12
11 Colombia ThinkBlue 0 6 6
12 Toronto GaryKing 0 3 3
13 Michigan the_ed17 0 3 3
14 Switzerland Sasata 0 0 0
15 Cambodia Paxse 0 0 0
16 Maryland Ottava Rima 0 0 0
  • LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores
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From the Judges

Wow, what a big start to Round 3! We already have people past the 50 point mark, in one week. We can tell that this round is going to be tight, and we'll likely see every Top 8 contestant with over 500 (maybe 400) points by the end of this round. Keep working hard! – weburiedoursecretsinthegarden,  iMatthew :  Chat  , and The Helpful One

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The WikiCup Newsletter (this week)

The WikiCup Newsletter
Round III, Issue 2 - June 14, 2009

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Pool leaders

In this round of the WikiCup, the top contestant from each pool, along with four wildcards, will advance to the next round. The pool leaders are:

Pool A
  1. Mitchazenia (74)
Pool B
  1. Iceland Scorpion0422 (51)
Pool C
  1. Denmark Candlewicke (171)
Pool D
  1. Sweden Theleftorium (228)
Wildcard leaders
  1. Republic of Ireland Juliancolton (118)
  2. Mexico Durova (106)
  3. Japan Wrestlinglover (59)
  4. United States Useight (59)
Content Leaders

As of this newsletter, the following is a list of participants in this round with the most:

WikiCup At a Glance

As of this newsletter, the WikiCup participants have collected a Round 3 total of:

This combines with the Round 1 totals and the Round 2 totals to make a grand total of:

Biggest Jumps

The difference between each contestant's point total from last week, and their point total from this week are:

Rank User LF TF D
1 Sweden Theleftorium 132 228 96
2 Denmark Candlewicke 85 171 86
3 Republic of Ireland Juliancolton 50 118 68
4 Switzerland Sasata 0 46 46
5 Japan Wrestlinglover 19 59 40
6 Mitchazenia 40 74 34
7 Mexico Durova 75 106 31
8 Colombia ThinkBlue 7 37 30
9 United States Useight 46 59 13
10 Iceland Scorpion0422 41 51 10
  • LF = Last Week's score, TF = This Week's score, D = Difference between last week and this week's scores
  • This was generated from this diff.
From the Judges

Turns out last week's newsletter was never sent out. Sorry about that! Since we already had it done, we are sending you both. This newsletter is the one for this week though. Anyway, we're seeing you guys working really hard. There are a few of you over 100 points in the first two weeks. Also, we have switched Ottava Rima from Pool D to Pool B, and Shoemaker's Holiday (who has withdrawn) from Pool B to Pool D. Scorpion0422 is more than likely to withdraw before this round ends, because he will be inactive next round. That would leave 2 contestants in Pool B. So, to make things fairly even, we have switched the two contestants. Sorry for all of the confusion!

Finally, we know it's very early, but you can already sign up for the 2010 WikiCup, here! We want to get everything ready way in advance for next year. So we opened the list up, and we'll start working things out in September/October, most likely. Information is all on the page, and you may leave any questions on the talk page. So go sign up before your favorite flag is taken! 'weburiedoursecretsinthegarden,  iMatthew :  Chat  , and The Helpful One

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A suggestion and a request (new member task)

We have a new member on the advanced wiki-tools team. Maybe you'd like to welcome User talk:MacMed.

I've given him his first task, but I don't have much online time today (and I'm unsure how much I'll be on over the next couple of days). Would you be so kind as to check in on him from time and see how he's doing?

I'd appreciate it.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist    23:11, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

WPOOK's advert banner is done!

Is it perfect? Can it be improved?

Penubag loves feedback. Please let him know if it can be further improved.

Thank you.

The Transhumanist    22:55, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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duck socks

That socking was so obvious I'm thinking maybe it wasn't even done with malicious intent. –xeno 18:14, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

That sounds fine. I'll keep an eye on that page. –xeno 18:24, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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