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Welcome to my talk page. Please leave me a note by starting a new subject here and please don't forget to sign your post You may want to have a look at the subjects in the header of this talkpage before starting a new subject. The question you may have may already have been answered there Dirk Beetstra

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Hence, I will remove external links on pages where I think they do not add to the page (per WP:NOT#REPOSITORY and WP:EL), or when they are added in a way that wikipedia defines as spam (understand that wikipedia defines spam as: '... wide-scale external link spamming ...', even if the link is appropriate; also read this). This may mean that I remove links, while similar links are already there or which are there already for a long time. Still, the question is not whether your link should be there, the question may be whether those other links should be there (again, see the wording of the policies and guidelines). Please consider the alternatives before re-adding the link: If the link contains information, use the information to add content to the article, and use the link as a reference (content is not 'see here for more information'). Add an appropriate linkfarm (you can consider to remove other links covered there). Incorporate the information into one of the sister projects. 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Vitruvian Man 2

Dirk,

Graag zou ik mijn gebruikers-pagina gedeblokkeerd zien.(Blauwe letters: Rob ten Berge Ook wat externe links betreft: omdat versie 2 van Vitruvian Man er eerder was dan de overigens zeer mooie foto van Luc Viatour.

Inmiddels heb ik mijn werk ondergebracht bij Wikimedia Commons.

Let wel: Ik wil meerdere externe links kunnen hebben omdat er al genoeg pseudo-wetenschappelijke onzin over mijn werk gepleegd is.

Ik geef hier in de te verwachten "de-black-listing" hier vast een 2-tal voorbeelden waarom:

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robtenberge Google: Vitruvian Robbie / Afbeeldingen (Vitruvian Maria, werkt ook goed)

Via "vitruviusman" op de Nederlandse Misplaced Pages kun je zien wie de vertaling van Vitruvius én da Vinci heeft gemaakt. En belangrijke correcties heeft gemaakt zonder het artikel te ontwrichten. Vriendelijke groeten Rob --Rob ten Berge (talk) 04:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Rob, this is the English Misplaced Pages, where we have our conflict of interest and advertising guidelines. Creating promotional pages is not in line with those policies. You are free to recreate a userpage, making it 'blue' again, as long as you abide by these. --Dirk Beetstra 08:16, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Dirk have at least a good look on the two links here above before you're talking about the rules. Simple question: Is version 2 of Vitruvian Man better than version 1 or not? You can find Vitruvian Man 2 and other contributions you din't erase, because they have a proper licence on Misplaced Pages Commons. Vriendelijke groeten Rob--Rob ten Berge (talk) 00:08, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Sigh. I did have a look, Rob .. contribute, but don't only promote your own work. Discuss about that. --Dirk Beetstra 07:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Beste Dirk,

Via: Google: vitruvian man: pictures, I found on page 45 of picture results a terribly fake entrance of: "upload.wikimedia.org vitruvian man" 1st. : Free Vagina Thumbnail pictures. 2nd. : NSWF 3rd. : Vagina Fotos It could contain viruses too. This is, what I think real vandalism, because those external links have nothing to do with anatomy, but commercial porno.

A German author, Klaus Schroeer replaced my 2 "external" links to wikipedia commons by 2 commercial contributions of his hand. Please replace the 2 newer versions of my work.

That "Sex change for vitruvian man" is also a dubious.

After 2 years I'm still a "newbee" here and will used your 45 pages long: Misplaced Pages: Manual of Style. My compliments! I think you deserve The Rob ten Berge Barnstar for it if you stop obstructing my contributions related to my 2nd version of vitruvian man.

Mocht je echt de o van Rob hebben ingevuld bij de twee externe links, die ik als voorbeeld heb gegeven hebben ingevuld én gekeken, dan sterft mijn linker hersencel nu echt een stille "dood".

http://commons.wikimedia.org/Vitruvian_Man

Isa 1:18

What's in a name? Rob 82.75.23.125 (talk) 03:46, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:PHARM:CAT

We need a third party admin to close-out the consensus question currently posted at WP:PHARM:CAT. Would you mind doing that for us? ---kilbad (talk) 00:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

I would not mind, though I am on holiday, so it may take some time to read through the whole of the discussions. I hope you don't mind. --Dirk Beetstra 07:59, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

CAS no. validation

Sorry! Should have got the hang of it by now. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

No probs, it is a field that is not doing anything in the drugbox at the moment (though it works in the chembox). We should also work on the drugbox there, but .. hmm .. how and what .. (colours are unclear, putting a marking also, we have to think more about that). Thanks for the remark! --Dirk Beetstra 17:47, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

How do we do it?

Hello, dear. You removed my link to a video after another bot had already removed it before but I undid it. What should we do next? Is there any way to add an indeed relevant and interesting video from the YouTube to Misplaced Pages? Or should we drop the subject? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contemplor (talk • contribs) 18:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Well, I am not a bot. I did however see your post on User talk:XLinkBot, and I replied to that. Please review our external links guideline. My personal thought: that link is certainly not the most important link in the list, and I kindly ask you to discuss re-addition on the talkpage first. I hope this explains. --Dirk Beetstra 14:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry. I though it was some kind of second line of defense automated response, as it was so quick. I will not argue on that, I guess you have your reasons. If someone else will think it is worth including, let them do it. Thanks for your time and have a nice day! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Contemplor (talk • contribs) 14:57, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Whitelisting query

A search at Wikimedia turned up eight reports listing COI for me. I am not associated with any of the sites listed and was not spamming. Can this be considered a request to be whitelisted or do I need to take more action? Paul foord (talk) 04:01, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

I've whitelisted you. Regeneration of the reports (if that happens) will now have your records with a strikethrough. Thanks! --Dirk Beetstra 16:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Paul foord (talk) 02:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

EnLinkWatcher2

FYI, link watcher isn't currently reporting anything to #wikipedia-en-spam. The bot is connected, but isn't sending any messages to the channel. --ThaddeusB (talk) 17:35, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I stopped & restarted the bot. I had temporarily stopped mysql on the server when some large thunderstorms came through last night.. not all of the bots took it nicely. It's reporting now. --Versageek 17:55, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed to be working properly. Thanks! --ThaddeusB (talk) 18:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks both! --Dirk Beetstra 16:47, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Notification of arbcom discussion

Your actions have been discussed here as relevant to an ongoing arbitration case. You may wish to comment. I have linked a prior version of the page because the person who added this material reverted it and then incorporated the material by reference to the reversion, so as to make it impossible for you simply to search for your name. (Hope that's not too confusing.) Short Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 17:34, 20 July 2009 (UTC)