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| {{Quotation|Five monks were meditating when suddenly the wind picked up and a flag nearby flapped in the wind.<br><br> The first monk, the youngest of the group, broke his meditation and shouted, "Flag is moving!"<br><br>The second monk shouted, "Wind is moving!"<br><br>The third monk shouted, "Mind is moving!"<br><br>The fourth monk shouted, "Nothing is moving!"<br><br>The fifth monk, the eldest of the group, shouted, "Mouths are moving!"}} | {{Quotation|Five monks were meditating when suddenly the wind picked up and a flag nearby flapped in the wind.<br><br> The first monk, the youngest of the group, broke his meditation and shouted, "Flag is moving!"<br><br>The second monk shouted, "Wind is moving!"<br><br>The third monk shouted, "Mind is moving!"<br><br>The fourth monk shouted, "Nothing is moving!"<br><br>The fifth monk, the eldest of the group, shouted, "Mouths are moving!"}} | ||
| ==Precisionism== | |||
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| The version I deleted consisted of only a link, so it wasn't really an article, and hence covered by the ]. I'm not sure I can comment about the notability of the article, but if you produce a more substantial edit, then it will probably not be covered by CSD G4. ]<sup>(] - ])</sup> 19:09, 28 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :: I don't think that would actually help at all in writing the article, but if you think so, go ahead... ]<sup>(] - ])</sup> 19:22, 28 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ::One person I spoke with suggested it was (read the article on Meatball wiki). | |||
| ::I am a Zen Buddhist and a very bizarre person. I am also a very lazy hypocrite. I often amuse myself with my own stupidity, then have to scold myself for being some amused over something I shouldn't be amused ''about!'' | |||
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| Do you know how to write the Zen school's name in Chinese characters? I'd like to add that to the redirect. Thanks. ] (]) 18:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks. Just added it. Maybe if time permits I'll translate the Chinese page. Gassho, Alex ] (]) 19:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == AfD == | |||
| Hi, I find your comment at ] disruptive and inappropriate, when participating in an AfD, you must state a policy based reason and "Speedy Delete, WTF" does not fall under that, furthermore you have shown lack of understanding for speedy deletion policies, you didn't even say what ] the article falls, I seriously doubt it falls under any. ] (]) 00:30, 9 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == ] == | |||
| 潙仰 is pronounced as Weiyang, not Guiyang. Please look up it in any ], e.g, ]'s online dictionary for . And even if it is really pronounced as Guiyang, it is still much less famous than Guiyang City. The city should be the main page and you may establish a ] as the disambig page. For general rules on disambiguation, please read ]. I will request to move ] back to ]. Thanks. --] (]) 02:19, 9 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :NJ was completely wrong about this, and I put it back and commented on his talk page. It's fine with me if the city is the main page though. ] (]) 15:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Thank Alexwoods. But could you please provide a source of a ''real dictionary'' to prove that I am ''completely wrong''? --] (]) 15:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::I am Sorry, 潙仰 may be pronounced as Guiyang. And I still think that the city Guiyang should be the main page and a special disambiguation page ] should be fine. Thank you.--] (]) 23:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Monkey mind: monkey as metaphor for the mind in the Pali canon == | |||
| Hi Zenwhat - | |||
| Regarding ] (to which I'm replying here since the topic's been archived), I know of a couple of ] discourses where the mind is likened to a monkey swinging from branch to branch (at least once with a fatal consequence), although I don't know of the verbatim term "monkey mind" being used in Pali. For instance, there's ] 12.61 (Thanissaro Bhikkhu's translation can be found at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn12/sn12.061.than.html) and SN 47.7 (Andrew Olendzki's translation can be found at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn47/sn47.007.olen.html). If you think such discourses might be of interest (e.g., for an endnote or a subsection on "Monkey as metaphor in the Pali Canon" in ]?), let me know and I can scan the Pali Canon for similar discourses. Otherwise, if perhaps you feel the association is too tangential between such historical metaphors and the explicit term, "monkey mind," I can certainly understand and will pursue no further. | |||
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| ] (]) 00:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| == ISKCON Cult Vandalizing == | |||
| Dear Zenwhat, I absolutely agree with the statement "iskcon, a cult, would vandalize wikipedia". I have been battling iskconites on wiki. for about 7 long months. On every article and on every paragraph. Much of the Hinduism articles have been largely written with a iskcon slant and flavor. They have been putting preposterious ideas and non-senses, fantasy information on alot of articles...just see for yourself. Please watch out for wikidas and gaurangaUK...they are notorious iskconites that I have been butting heads with...especially wikidas. Please look at my userpage and discussion, to see what I mean.......please read this letter............Dear Shruti,Thank you for inviting me to help with the Sri Sampradayam article. But, I think that I will holding off for a while with any editing. I looked at the information that wikidas put, and , again it is utter non-sense. The Sri Sampradayam goes back BEFORE the first century B.C., He put 10th century a.d. I also looked at his information that he put on the svayam bhavam article, at alot of it is non-sense and supporting his I.S.K.C.O.N cult veiw. Every thing he writes is with this iskcon cult flavor. His information is absolutely off and just fantasy in certain places, and other editors have mentioned this. But, the one thing that upsets me, is that everyone LETS him put these erronious edits and information. I believe he has really marred the truth and information on many articles. Alot of his information is not trust-worthy. And, I think people should be warned about it. Every editor contributing to any Hindu articles has let him do this. He has even recieved praise for his edits! Look at his discussion section. But, what really gets me, is that he writes EVERY THING with his Iskcon cult slant. I have asked every one for help with him...and nothing. If I had the time, I would make this into a Legal matter. Please, this is not directed to you, please dont take it personally. This is a very serious matter; with his non-sense cult information and no one in the wiki-community really cares. Wikidas and other iskcon-ites, before and during my stint wikipedia, have tinted most of the hindu articles with their particular cult flavor. Sincerely,Govinda] (]) 08:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Thanks for the note == | |||
| ...And welcome back!--] (]) 09:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Jetsunma Ahkon Lhamo == | |||
| I noticed your comments on the discussion page. What is your familiarity with this subject? You seem to have not noticed that most of the information in this article, good and bad, comes from ''The Buddha From Brooklyn.'' It's the only comprehensive source for the history of KPC. ] (]) 21:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| : Hi, got your message. I did look at your edit history first so I didn't feel you were a KPC member. Plus, KPC students use a particular phrasing about Guru Yoga, etc., that's very unique. You don't sound at all like a KPC student. These past few days have been a little frustrating on this article. Over the last week Zulu Papa tried to turn it into a personal issue, with accusations ranging from ad hominem attacks in her revert notes ("" was prime), telling me she has a , copying over a conversation between myself and another user to the , then disregarding it when it didn't go her way. | |||
| : It isn't the we've been down this road, though she's very aggressive this time. Quite honestly, she's not as bad as what I dealt with editing the Tibet articles last March. I even asked but she wasn't interested. | |||
| : Zulu's been trying to make a case that it's not Alyce's actions that are at fault. That it's not that Alyce has beaten students and grown rich at the expense of her monks and nuns, but rather, the problem is that these things have been ''reported''. A separate controversies section will allow Zulu to say that. I can't go along with that. ] (]) 05:08, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| : Oh, I forgot to mention: to reply to your own history, I'm a long-term Buddhist. My teachers tell me I'm "very Nyingma" (whatever that means) and yet most of my teachers are Kagyu. Go figure. I respect Zen, especially your disciplined retreats. | |||
| : I noticed when I was writing this article that Martha Sherrill wrote a ''lot'' of , going back 11 years before she wrote her book. I was very surprised. Looking at it in context, with her own comments in ''The Buddha From Brooklyn'' (somewhere in there she mentions she was looking for something cleaner than the rough and tumble world of journalism), I get the impression that she was disappointed in KPC. ] (]) 05:25, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :: Thank you for your help on the Jetsunma article. ] (]) 11:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::: Yes, I've read your essays. I try to remind myself that Misplaced Pages is not time sensitive. It's a lesson I learned the hard way with the Tibet articles this spring. Oh man. The fury of the Chinese students who flooded wiki, and the amazing discrepancies between what kids are taught about Tibet in the PRC's standard curriculum and what's generally understood in the west to be the truth. ] (]) 10:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| == Tibetan Buddhism, Skepticism and Guru Devotion == | |||
| Hi ZenWhat, thought you might apprecaite his refernce to Tibetan Buddhism given your Zen background and stated concerns on Longchempa's Talk page ]. My understanding is that the ] approach to guru is closest to ] and changes the further you get away from India.] (]) 20:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == WikiLawyering == | |||
| I've reviewed ] for your accusation and I have been searching for the Wiki Principals. I suggest you consider I've been acting in good faith to these.] (]) 03:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == "sensible order" == | |||
| You didn't say what you thought a sensible order was, or why the existing alphabetical ordering was not sensible. Shall we take it to the talk page? ] (]) 02:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Troll? == | |||
| Hi Zenwhat, | |||
| I heard your concerns about me being a Troll I checked ]. It says folks that take a genuine decent aren't trolls. Biased editing, even if defended aggressively, is in itself not trolling. You're application is off base. If I where to accuse you of being a troll, like the pot calling the kettle black, what concerns me most is you're misuse of process. Your intent to shortcut wiki process to have me banned, could be considered a troll activity. Being sucked into a negative POV could be the result a troll (Longxxxx) activity. I really don't consider you a troll, only the most polite form of ignorant. Tootles. ] (]) 03:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Please take a look at ] == | |||
| There are some serious ] issues there.--] (]) 19:46, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Took a look at the ] page == | |||
| I've made some minor edits, consulted the ever-handy translator and linguist Sarat Chandra Das, and hopefully clarified the title. Let me know if there's anything you need. ] (]) 00:14, 15 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == SubPage Contibs == | |||
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| == Faith in the Kalama Sutta == | == Faith in the Kalama Sutta == | ||
Revision as of 15:56, 1 August 2009
I'm here only sporadically, so if you leave a message, don't expect a prompt response.
Five monks were meditating when suddenly the wind picked up and a flag nearby flapped in the wind.
The first monk, the youngest of the group, broke his meditation and shouted, "Flag is moving!"
The second monk shouted, "Wind is moving!"
The third monk shouted, "Mind is moving!"
The fourth monk shouted, "Nothing is moving!"
The fifth monk, the eldest of the group, shouted, "Mouths are moving!"
Faith in the Kalama Sutta
The offending section has seemed to have disappeared since you asked my help on this. It seems good as it now stands, but I added my ha'peth worth about faith in the Faith in Buddhism article instead Thanissaro (talk) 16:26, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
Outline of Buddhism
You requested this article in the Buddhism Wikiproject. Someone did a lot of work and made it on their own: Outline of Buddhism. Thought you might want to check it out! ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 17:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for the heads up. That filled a big gap in the religion section of the WP:OOK. The Transhumanist 16:02, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
- P.S.: Does your scope of interest include human knowledge as a whole (the Big Picture, a bird's eye view, EVERYTHING)? If so, please consider joining WP:WPOOK. -TT
I don't really have any fixed scope of interest on Misplaced Pages. I enjoy contributing but don't seriously expect anything much to come from this site. I will edit pretty much whatever I want, whenever I want, if I can get away with it (WP:IAR), which tends to be random, small fixes and improvements, and I don't really bother with the hassle of trying to collaborate with anyone. I'm also lazy about searching for good references. And I'm not a consistent editor, like the type of person who will edit Misplaced Pages every day, several hours a day, week after week. The length of time I spend on here now varies greatly.
So, I might contribute to pretty much any wikiproject, including yours if I happen to feel like it (right now I don't) but I won't make the formal commitment of signing my name to the page or adding some silly category tag, "Support of Wikiproject Whatever," to my userpage. With that said, I think that the lack of good outlines is the least of Misplaced Pages's issues.
Thanks for the offer, though. ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 16:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Satanic ritual abuse
Hi,
You've got SRA on your hall of shame page. Now that ResearchEditor has been blocked, I wonder if you still think it belongs there? Just curiosity... WLU (t) (c) Misplaced Pages's rules:/complex 15:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- I thought I deleted that page? I remember somebody complaining about it, that it was "uncivil," etc.. I don't update that page anymore.
- Anyway, it wasn't that specific user or edit which I thought was shameful: It was the existence of the entire page. You had a page devoted to a phenomenon that never actually happened. At the time, the article was regularly filled with allegations and speculations that SRA actually might've gone on and I thought that was a LOL funny.
- Looking at it now, it seems like the article is much better, no doubt due to the banning of a whole slew of editors and a small group of rational individual editors putting their feet down over such nonsense.
- Thanks for reminding me, btw, about all of my stupid subpages. I need to delete some of them. ☯ Zenwhat (talk) 15:49, 1 August 2009 (UTC)