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'''Gothic metal''' (sometimes called '''goth metal''') is a genre of music that originated in the early 1990's in ] as an outgrowth from the subgenre of doom metal known as gothic doom. Gothic metal is a somewhat linear genre, but due to much debate, its actual definition is not commonly known. Older fans and musicians have a firm concept of the genre having been around through its growth and evolution, having strict ideas of what bands pertain to the genre and what bands dont. Newer fans reject this categorisation as limiting, useless or wrong, often claiming bands are gothic metal that do not meet the distinct vision of the older fans.
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== Notes to Users ==
== Sounds, constructs and lyrics ==
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Gothic metal is sometimes a loose genre in the way it sounds because the genre is measured by its composition of the music and the features it uses, leaving interpretation to individual bands on how they wish their instruments to sound. The overall sound in gothic metal plays a minor role to suffice only to depict between itself and other genres. It also makes unique use of dual vocalists, keyboards and acoustic guitars, giving itself identity in comparison to other metal genres.
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Gothic metal tends to lend itself to ], ], and ] for its composition, heavily synthesizing the styles of their melody and rhythm ideas in its guitar work, causing the music to be aggresive and fast paced. Acoustic guitars are sometimes present in gothic metal, and in bands that use two guitars, the second guitarist is often found playing a form of acoustic guitar. The acoustic guitar is used in the same way as its electronic counterpart, and is normally found playing melodys that are as equally complex. The bass guitar in gothic metal usually plays akin to the deep lowness of doom metal combined with the aggression of black and death metal, often being the main contributer to the atmosphere in songs.
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Keyboards in gothic metal often play a major role in the music, often replacing the second guitarist in bands and taking on the role of either lead or rhythm. The keyboards are often used to imitate a variety of instruments, most often string and wind instruments. Keyboards tend to support the bass in setting the atmosphere and mood of songs.
'''Gothic metal''', also called '''Goth metal''', is a crossover between ] and ] itself; although the term 'metal' is debated by those who say it is mainly gothic music. It developed in the early 1990s in ] and the ]. Gothic metal has proven somewhat difficult to categorise. Some fans and musicians have a firm concept of genre and subgenre, but others reject such categorisation as limiting or useless. There is often significant crossover from one category to another, and often the influence of non-metal music.

== Beginnings (1983-1990) ==
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The atmosphere is commonly tailored to fit the song; warm and energetic, empty and enclosing. The atmosphere rarely follows the deep morbidity of doom metal unlike its origin; gothic doom, or the upbeat nature of its sister genre; symphonic metal.
The earliest stage of gothic metal could be traced to bands
in the 1980s who utilized ] aesthetics with metallic
songwriting. Although Glenn Danzig's ] made some attribution of this, ] are regarded as the most influential to the founding of the genre. The deep vocal baritones of ] and Valor Kand, the downtuned bass guitars and eerie synths made a strong impression on many bands that would form later, including those who experimented with other metal influences. ] - although considered by many as an early ] band - also played an early role for their "gothic-sounding" atmospherics.
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== Forward (1990-present) ==
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Lyrically, gothic metal is centered around romances and fantasy tales that end in tragedy for one or more parties involved. The time setting for lyrics is most often in the ] or the ], but can also be in ], ], ], or modern eras. The romantic- and fantasy-themed lyrics often used in gothic metal cover many broad subjects and are intended as being themes and guides to the lyricist, rather than a complete prerequisite of the genre. Gothic Metal bands typically do not write their albums in the form of separate songs; they rather write ]s in the form of books. This is so that each song acts as a part, or, chapter, inspiring people to listen to the whole album in order to hear the story, instead of just certain songs. ]'s ''Seclusion'' and ]'s ''Sufferion - Hamartia of Prudence'' are two gothic metal albums that feature this style of lyrics.
In the 1990s, a group of young bands in Northern England borrowed
from the early gothic metal sound of the 1980s and incorporated it with the slow, downtuned guitar dirges of ]. Gothic Doom, or DoomDeath, as it was often called, would be regarded as a second stage of the subgenre. Bands most notable for this style included ], ], and ].
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Gothic metal bands normally have two vocalists, (also known as "]" vocals). One vocalist is typically male and uses vocals akin to black or death metal. The other vocalist is usually female, and often uses ] vocals, or harmonic singing. Sometimes bands will use other forms of vocals included with the two prior vocalists, including (but not limited to) female death/black vocals, ] and male singing, but this tends to be limited to backing vocals and their use within the song.
Although the Scandinavian region was known more for its ] and ] fertility, many bands who started in either genre had progressed and conformed more to gothic metal styles - ], ], and ] being a few examples. Although ], ] used some female vocals in their music, Norway's ] was the first gothic metal band with a leading female singer, ] (later replaced by another female singer, named Nell).
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== History ==
Similarly, ]'s ] had some connections to ] and ] with lead singer/bassist's Peter Steele's earlier group, ]. Although the band has taken a more humorous, tonque-and-cheek approach to the genre, they have played a large role in the genre and its characteristics.
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A softer version of Gothic metal had evolved in the mid-late 1990s. These bands focused on female vocals as well, although not neccesserly operatic ones, and reduced ] elements and male death vocals significantly. These bands include ] (]), ] (Netherlands), ] (]) and ] (]). Some of these bands also combined electronic sounds and mainstream ] with the traditional Gothic metal sound to create a lighter and more accessible form of the genre.
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<nowiki>== The Beginnings (1983-1993) ==</nowiki>
The Gothic metal scene is currently very developed in Northern ], especially ].
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The earliest stage of gothic metal can be traced to bands in the ], who utilised goth rock aesthetics with metallic songwriting akin to doom metal to later influence the subgenre, gothic doom. Although ]'s ] made some attribution of this, ] are regarded as the most influential to the founding of the subgenre. The deep vocal baritones of ] and ], the downtuned bass guitars, and the eerie synths made a strong impression on many bands that would form later, including those who experimented with other metal influences. ], although considered by many as an early black metal band, also played an semi-important role in the development of gothic doom, due to their use of "gothic-sounding" atmospherics.
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In the 1990s, a group of young bands in Northern England borrowed from the early gothic rock sound of the 1980s and incorporated it with the slow, down-tuned guitar dirges of ] in the same fashion as doom metal bands. Gothic doom, then known as doom-death, was the first stage of the gothic metal genre. Bands most notable for this style included ], ], and ].
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Although death metal and black metal were two of the larger genres of metal at this time, especially in the Scandinavian region, many bands who started in either genre had progressed more toward gothic doom styles; two of these bands were ] and ].
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Although early gothic doom bands ] and ] used some female vocals in their music, the Netherland's ] was the first gothic doom band with a leading female singer, ] on the album '']'' and then ] on '']'', (both later replaced by another female singer, ]). This impacted gothic metal by adding the first implications of using two vocalists in the bands, which later became a signature of gothic metal as it was quickly imitated by bands including ] and ].
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<nowiki>== Gothic metal today (1993-present) ==</nowiki>
== Misperceptions and Categorization ==
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Although the style has seen much less controversy than other metal subgenres - and remarkably, fewer instances of debate - some arguments have gone on in regard to bands that have sported a gothic "image" versus those with direct genetics to the gothic metal genre.
Gothic metal originated at this time with bands such as ] and ] taking the gothic doom sound that had arisen and making romantically themed bands that borrowed from black metal's and death metal's guitar and vocal styles. These bands left behind some of the depressive nature and gothic rock elements of their origins to add more warm and classical elements into the music.
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A softer genre known as ] had evolved in the mid- to late- ] from gothic metal bearing strong similarities to its predecessor, with bands led by female singers. During this time the divide between gothic metal and the new born symphonic metal became apparent; symphonic metal maintained a simpler approach, with more operatic and classical themes, while gothic metal incorporated more aggressive elements of death metal and black metal directly into the music, adding more technically complex melodies and rhythms into its music. ] and ] heading this last known progression in the music.
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The gothic metal scene is currently very developed in ] and ], most notably in ], ] and ], and is growing rapidly in ]. Much of the scene's core fan base has developed itself in England and France, with many of the bands coming from the Scandinavian region. Several groups of smaller bands are also emerging in eastern Europe and ], struggling to gain a foothold where the scene is small.
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== Gothic doom ==
When widespread news events surrounded ], for instance, some media personalities and journalists categorized him as a "gothic rock" and "gothic heavy metal" musician, even though few elements in his music would be classifiable as such. The growing popularity of ] in the 1990s can be factored as a major source to this, considering several artists in the genre inspired a "gothic" styled dress amongst suburban youths which was similarly debated in authenticity by those who proclaimed themselves "true" members of gothic ].
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Gothic doom is best described as a subgenre of both doom metal and gothic metal. Early gothic doom, or doom-death as it was then known, started as a subgenre of doom metal and later evolved to become more affiliated with gothic metal. Throughout its existence, gothic doom has combined aspects of both doom metal and gothic metal in varying quantities.
Although gothic metal - like most metal subgenres - is difficult to classify, some main attributes have remained fairly consistent:
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Early bands in the subgenre were heavily rooted in doom metal, incorporating elements of death metal and gothic rock into the music and utilising many things that later went on to become signature traits of gothic metal, such as dual vocalists and the use of acoustic guitars.
*''lyrics'' focus on a variety of subjects: ] and ], heaven and hell, romance, (gothic) horror, depression, bereavement, emptiness, and death. Typically, the subjects are set in a pre-20th century environment.
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* ''vocals'' are either sung by a male vocalist, female vocalist, or both. The male vocals are either in a deep ], or ]. Female vocals tend to be high and operatic, but sometimes sung in a regular tone with reverb usage for effects.
Later gothic doom has evolved to be more based from gothic metal, often writing music that is typical of gothic metal and replacing aspects of it with their doom metal counterparts. Some bands also use some aspects of gothic rock, similar to older gothic doom bands.
*the ''guitar(s)'' and ''bass'' are often in minor key, but can also be slow and heavily distorted, as what would be heard in ]. Along with ''percussion'' (and sometimes ''synthesizers''), the pace and tone is sometimes dependent on the performance of the singer or the nature of the song.
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Gothic doom bands are overall characterised by their often equal, but highly mixed use of elements of gothic metal and doom metal and occasional elements of gothic rock. As such, bands are often debated upon as to whether they are doom metal, gothic metal, or neither.
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== Other gothic metal fusions ==
There are also (occasional) instances in which gothic metal crosses over into other genres, such as ] and ].
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Other fusions of gothic metal similar to gothic doom have also started to become more noticeable. This has often been noticed by bands within the black metal, death metal and symphonic metal genres that have started using elements of gothic metal in the bands music.
''Italic text''Goth Metal is often considered the "fashioncore" of heavy metal. People who "like" goth metal are more often then not in the music for the image rather than the music.
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Within death metal and black metal this has included the non-defining use of dual vocalists, sub-romantic themes and the writing of concept albums mixed with the traditional sound of the genre. These genre fusions include bands such as Dark Lunacy, Cradle of Filth (later albums), and Eternal Tears of Sorrow.
==List of Gothic metal bands==
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Although the style has seen much more controversy than other metal genres - and remarkably, the most instances of debate - some arguments have gone on in regards to bands that have sported a gothic "image" in the eyes of the media versus those with direct musical connections to the gothic metal genre. This has included bands that have shown imagery akin to morbidity, religious themes, gothic fashion, vampirism, and satanism and bands that have played alongside gothic metal bands at concerts.
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Bands are also often mistaken for being gothic metal, as people considered ] will attend the performance of a band, and the media takes to believing the band is part of the gothic metal genre due to the people who attend their concerts.
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Many debates have gone on as to whether bands rooted in one genre that use gothic metal aspects within their music are themselves gothic metal, or are themselves creating fusion like subgenres such as gothic doom. Because of these debates, sometimes bands such as these are listed amongst gothic metal bands as well as bands in the genre they are rooted from, often causing more debate and more confusion on the issue.
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Gothic metal (sometimes called goth metal) is a genre of music that originated in the early 1990's in Europe as an outgrowth from the subgenre of doom metal known as gothic doom. Gothic metal is a somewhat linear genre, but due to much debate, its actual definition is not commonly known. Older fans and musicians have a firm concept of the genre having been around through its growth and evolution, having strict ideas of what bands pertain to the genre and what bands dont. Newer fans reject this categorisation as limiting, useless or wrong, often claiming bands are gothic metal that do not meet the distinct vision of the older fans.

Sounds, constructs and lyrics

Gothic metal is sometimes a loose genre in the way it sounds because the genre is measured by its composition of the music and the features it uses, leaving interpretation to individual bands on how they wish their instruments to sound. The overall sound in gothic metal plays a minor role to suffice only to depict between itself and other genres. It also makes unique use of dual vocalists, keyboards and acoustic guitars, giving itself identity in comparison to other metal genres.

Gothic metal tends to lend itself to doom metal, black metal, and death metal for its composition, heavily synthesizing the styles of their melody and rhythm ideas in its guitar work, causing the music to be aggresive and fast paced. Acoustic guitars are sometimes present in gothic metal, and in bands that use two guitars, the second guitarist is often found playing a form of acoustic guitar. The acoustic guitar is used in the same way as its electronic counterpart, and is normally found playing melodys that are as equally complex. The bass guitar in gothic metal usually plays akin to the deep lowness of doom metal combined with the aggression of black and death metal, often being the main contributer to the atmosphere in songs.

Keyboards in gothic metal often play a major role in the music, often replacing the second guitarist in bands and taking on the role of either lead or rhythm. The keyboards are often used to imitate a variety of instruments, most often string and wind instruments. Keyboards tend to support the bass in setting the atmosphere and mood of songs.

The atmosphere is commonly tailored to fit the song; warm and energetic, empty and enclosing. The atmosphere rarely follows the deep morbidity of doom metal unlike its origin; gothic doom, or the upbeat nature of its sister genre; symphonic metal.

Lyrically, gothic metal is centered around romances and fantasy tales that end in tragedy for one or more parties involved. The time setting for lyrics is most often in the New Age or the Dark Ages, but can also be in Victorian, Edwardian, Roman, or modern eras. The romantic- and fantasy-themed lyrics often used in gothic metal cover many broad subjects and are intended as being themes and guides to the lyricist, rather than a complete prerequisite of the genre. Gothic Metal bands typically do not write their albums in the form of separate songs; they rather write concept albums in the form of books. This is so that each song acts as a part, or, chapter, inspiring people to listen to the whole album in order to hear the story, instead of just certain songs. Penumbra's Seclusion and Silentium's Sufferion - Hamartia of Prudence are two gothic metal albums that feature this style of lyrics.

Gothic metal bands normally have two vocalists, (also known as "Beauty and the Beast" vocals). One vocalist is typically male and uses vocals akin to black or death metal. The other vocalist is usually female, and often uses soprano vocals, or harmonic singing. Sometimes bands will use other forms of vocals included with the two prior vocalists, including (but not limited to) female death/black vocals, Gregorian chanting and male singing, but this tends to be limited to backing vocals and their use within the song.

History

== The Beginnings (1983-1993) ==

The earliest stage of gothic metal can be traced to bands in the 1980s, who utilised goth rock aesthetics with metallic songwriting akin to doom metal to later influence the subgenre, gothic doom. Although Glenn Danzig's Samhain made some attribution of this, Christian Death are regarded as the most influential to the founding of the subgenre. The deep vocal baritones of Rozz Williams and Valor Kand, the downtuned bass guitars, and the eerie synths made a strong impression on many bands that would form later, including those who experimented with other metal influences. Celtic Frost, although considered by many as an early black metal band, also played an semi-important role in the development of gothic doom, due to their use of "gothic-sounding" atmospherics.

In the 1990s, a group of young bands in Northern England borrowed from the early gothic rock sound of the 1980s and incorporated it with the slow, down-tuned guitar dirges of Black Sabbath in the same fashion as doom metal bands. Gothic doom, then known as doom-death, was the first stage of the gothic metal genre. Bands most notable for this style included Paradise Lost, My Dying Bride, and Anathema.

Although death metal and black metal were two of the larger genres of metal at this time, especially in the Scandinavian region, many bands who started in either genre had progressed more toward gothic doom styles; two of these bands were Moonspell and Theatre of Tragedy.

Although early gothic doom bands Paradise Lost and Anathema used some female vocals in their music, the Netherland's The Gathering was the first gothic doom band with a leading female singer, Marike Groot on the album Always... and then Martine Van Loon on Almost a Dance, (both later replaced by another female singer, Anneke van Giersbergen). This impacted gothic metal by adding the first implications of using two vocalists in the bands, which later became a signature of gothic metal as it was quickly imitated by bands including Tristania and Theater of Tragedy.

== Gothic metal today (1993-present) ==

Gothic metal originated at this time with bands such as Tristania and Therion taking the gothic doom sound that had arisen and making romantically themed bands that borrowed from black metal's and death metal's guitar and vocal styles. These bands left behind some of the depressive nature and gothic rock elements of their origins to add more warm and classical elements into the music.

A softer genre known as symphonic metal had evolved in the mid- to late- 1990s from gothic metal bearing strong similarities to its predecessor, with bands led by female singers. During this time the divide between gothic metal and the new born symphonic metal became apparent; symphonic metal maintained a simpler approach, with more operatic and classical themes, while gothic metal incorporated more aggressive elements of death metal and black metal directly into the music, adding more technically complex melodies and rhythms into its music. Trail of Tears and Penumbra heading this last known progression in the music.

The gothic metal scene is currently very developed in Europe and Scandinavia, most notably in England, France and Norway, and is growing rapidly in Germany. Much of the scene's core fan base has developed itself in England and France, with many of the bands coming from the Scandinavian region. Several groups of smaller bands are also emerging in eastern Europe and South America, struggling to gain a foothold where the scene is small.

Gothic doom

Gothic doom is best described as a subgenre of both doom metal and gothic metal. Early gothic doom, or doom-death as it was then known, started as a subgenre of doom metal and later evolved to become more affiliated with gothic metal. Throughout its existence, gothic doom has combined aspects of both doom metal and gothic metal in varying quantities.

Early bands in the subgenre were heavily rooted in doom metal, incorporating elements of death metal and gothic rock into the music and utilising many things that later went on to become signature traits of gothic metal, such as dual vocalists and the use of acoustic guitars.

Later gothic doom has evolved to be more based from gothic metal, often writing music that is typical of gothic metal and replacing aspects of it with their doom metal counterparts. Some bands also use some aspects of gothic rock, similar to older gothic doom bands.

Gothic doom bands are overall characterised by their often equal, but highly mixed use of elements of gothic metal and doom metal and occasional elements of gothic rock. As such, bands are often debated upon as to whether they are doom metal, gothic metal, or neither.

My Dying Bride, Paradise Lost, and Anathema are typical early gothic doom bands with Chalice, Ashes You Leave and The Wounded being typical later gothic doom bands.

Other gothic metal fusions

Other fusions of gothic metal similar to gothic doom have also started to become more noticeable. This has often been noticed by bands within the black metal, death metal and symphonic metal genres that have started using elements of gothic metal in the bands music.

Within death metal and black metal this has included the non-defining use of dual vocalists, sub-romantic themes and the writing of concept albums mixed with the traditional sound of the genre. These genre fusions include bands such as Dark Lunacy, Cradle of Filth (later albums), and Eternal Tears of Sorrow.

Some symphonic metal bands have also started to use more gothic metal elements. This is mainly noticeable by the more downbeat, aggressive and complex structures to songs. Bands such as the Netherlands' Autumn and Russia's Offertorium are both notable for this.

Common misconceptions

Although the style has seen much more controversy than other metal genres - and remarkably, the most instances of debate - some arguments have gone on in regards to bands that have sported a gothic "image" in the eyes of the media versus those with direct musical connections to the gothic metal genre. This has included bands that have shown imagery akin to morbidity, religious themes, gothic fashion, vampirism, and satanism and bands that have played alongside gothic metal bands at concerts.

Bands are also often mistaken for being gothic metal, as people considered goths will attend the performance of a band, and the media takes to believing the band is part of the gothic metal genre due to the people who attend their concerts.

Many debates have gone on as to whether bands rooted in one genre that use gothic metal aspects within their music are themselves gothic metal, or are themselves creating fusion like subgenres such as gothic doom. Because of these debates, sometimes bands such as these are listed amongst gothic metal bands as well as bands in the genre they are rooted from, often causing more debate and more confusion on the issue.

List of gothic metal and gothic doom metal bands

See also

External links

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