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User talk:PMA/Archive

Kellie Waymire

Please don't revert this again. The style is correct (not only for Misplaced Pages, but in any publication). See Misplaced Pages:Manual of style for setails of dashes, for example). Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:26, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Well, first, you keep reverting my n-rule to a hyphen; that's specifically ruled out in the MoS, which was my main point when referring to it. Secondly, with regard to the full style, I accept that, if known, the fulldates should be in the article, but putting them in the summary makes it (to my eyes at least) cumbersome. Giben that it is a summary, shouldn't it briefly summarise the greater detail in the article? I'm starting a discussion on this at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers); please join in if you feel strongly about it. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 08:38, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No worries. Do you have any thoughts on the style that I'm suggesting should be made standard?

Mystery admin

I was a bit confused to see a protected page (Germany) being editted by someone not on Misplaced Pages:List of administrators, and with a blank user page... I've updated the former, might be a good idea to create at least a minimal user page (say, mentioning that you are indeed an admin, and your former user name). Alai 01:25, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Samantha Smith again

I think, that user, who created the article, used not books,but internet resources. These references were added by myself, when I edited the article for the first (as I remember) time. I added info about Artek from her book and info about her birthplace and moving to Manchester from Galicich book. I don't have these books. I only

• found a chapter about Artek from her book, translated into Russian.
• found excerpts from Galicich book

The problem is that I'm not a perfect translator. Although there is a lot of info in the latter link in English, it will be hard for me to make a short summary of it. But I'll try to include some info from there, especially about her early years. Cmapm 14:42, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

All right. Also, may be "thieves who steal non-ferrous metals" in English should be expressed in a different way, than I did :"non-ferrous metals' thieves"? Cmapm 14:11, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Berlin pronunciation

Where is the debate in which it was decided that "pro-nun-see-AY-shuns" are acceptable alongside IPA transcription? As far as I know, Misplaced Pages policy is to use IPA only; see Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style (pronunciation) --Angr/_comhrá 05:35, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, you lost that debate. The majority of votes were to keep IPA only, without the useless and childish "pro-nun-see-AY-shuns". --Angr/_comhrá 05:49, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Childish because it's a form of dumbing-down. It assumes the reader isn't capable of reading IPA (which anyone of average intelligence can learn to do in less than an hour). It also smacks of children's encyclopedias like "World Book". --Angr/_comhrá 08:23, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I hope you don't think that /"ty: S'Vx/ is IPA - it would appear to be SAMPA. By the way I've updated the taoiseach article to add the IPA pronunciation — with a link to the IPA chart for English so that anyone not familiar with IPA can look up the various characters. rossb 09:40, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yes, it's SAMPA. It's also incorrect, since the sound /y:/ doesn't occur in Irish. As for World Book,

Though not called a "children's" encyclopedia, it is marketed as a family encyclopedia, and it recognizes the fact that one of the primary uses of general-purpose encyclopedias is for children working on school reports.

I used World Book between the ages of about 6 and 11; after that the information it provided wasn't useful to me for school reports and I switched to Britannica. I have no doubt that both Dr Duffy and Dr Carr could learn to read IPA in less than an hour if they cared to. --Angr/_comhrá 10:19, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

One of the problems with the "pro-nun-see-AY-shuns" style of pronunciation guide is that even for English speakers sometimes it's helpful and sometimes it's extremely unhelpful. I think if I didn't know how to pronounce Berlin, seeing it transcribed as "buhr LIHN" would not have helped me (since "uhr" and "IH" bear no resemblance to any English orthographic conventions) and would probably have led me to pronounce it completely wrongly. rossb 14:26, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Farewell

Unfortunately, must to go out from Wiki, forever. The reason is in myself. Will try to switch to previuos hobbies. My respect and best wishes for you. Cmapm 23:17, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Germany

PMA - actually, it was Marriex who posted the full GDR name in the lead section, not me. I didn't feel like removing his/her edits, because he/she appears to be new here. But feel free to correct. You may have to explain your point to Marriex, though.-Heimdal 14:30, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Luis rib is trying to revert all my edits on the Germany page. First he removed the image of Pope Benedict XVI (who knows why) in the "Religion" section; then the image of Hamburg in "Demographics"; now he wants to revert all my edits in the "History" section too. I intend to fight it out, PMA. You can revert the whole page back to Luis rib's version and protect it indefinitely, I don't care. -Heimdal 10:44, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Actually, it was not me who started the edit war on the Germany page. On the grounds that the Germany article was "biased", Gidonb made multiple deletions, removed images, made non-sensical changes to the structure of the article (the Military a sub-section of Politics, Religion a sub-sub-section of Culture, etc.) and added his own POV to the article. I just reverted back to the previous version, which no good-willing person can say was biased. I also contacted Doric Loon to ask his opinion, and he couldn't find any bias in the previous version either (see Doric Loon's talk page). This time I intend to fight it out, PMA, because your protection of the page is deeply unfair. Of course I'll revert back to the previous version in case that the article is unprotected again. Also, I have the impression that you are constantly taking me for someone else. Please note, once and for all, that the user that posts under the number which starts with "83.109. ...." is not me! - Heimdal 11:12, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

The Master's picture

While it's fine to change to want to the picture, please don't overwrite a picture that someone has already uploaded with the same name. I think that unless you're the person who uploaded it in the first place, that's not really polite. Use another name. You've done it in the case of Patrick Troughton in the Season 6B entry as well.

It's all right - using a different name also makes it easier to switch between the two rather than having to revert the images. Better is a matter of perspective, anyway. I kind of preferred the earlier Delgado picture as it looked more sinister, but that's just me. --khaosworks 15:29, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

West Germany

I saw what happened to the West Germany page. Especially liked the "Middle Germany" thing, which actually is used in German for the Middle part of Germany, and not for East Germany at all (which is still nowadays referred to as der Osten - the East). Luis rib 22:37, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi. I happened to read the West Germany page this morning. The "history" (archive) page was particularly interesting. Sincerely, I was quite confused when I found myself being accused by you, PMA, of having an "FRG/GDR fetish" (whatever that is). Please note that I've NEVER edited the "West Germany" article. MfG, Heimdal 13:20, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

iraq election world protests

The website that contained info of the protest may have been socialist but the protests weren't necessarily. But more importantly adding "left-wing" to the sentence seemed like an attempt at damaging the credibility of the protests without a citation (original research). If other sources are specifically claiming the protests are invalid merely because they were "left-wing" protests then add a sentence after that, don't add POV phrases in factual sentences. And remember that sentence is balancing out the "official" version of the Iraq election, you are caveating it too much. Also, there are many non-liberals than have protested the Iraq election, also saying they would mean something if the U.S. wasn't there orchestrating the process. Scott Ritter is hardly "left-wing". zen master T 04:21, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Yalta

It's on my list, but I'm not very keen on going another ten rounds with the Misplaced Pages Polish Nationalist Party. (Has anyone ever investigated what happens at the Polish Misplaced Pages? I suspect it must be very bad.) Adam 09:13, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

FRD

Paul, this may interest you . It suggests FDR's doctors were well aware of his hypertension and heart condition, and that his diet was not to blame. But they didn't even try to stop him smoking! Times change. I will write some more when I get time. Cheers Adam 23:25, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Paul, there is now a consensus among the people editing FDR that he should be moved to Franklin D. Roosevelt. Could you do this? Adam 07:57, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Paul. Adam 08:08, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your administratorship

Hi. I'd like to inform you that I intend to start a complaint against you because of what you did on the West Germany page, where - among your other insults - you accused me of having an "FRG/GDR fetish", and you even protected the article against my alleged edits, despite the fact that I've never put one single edit onto that page. I know that you have apologised. Nevertheless, I think that you clearly deserve to be given a lesson. Actually, you were so filled up with your personal bias against me that you didn't even care to check the IP address of the person you pretended to be me. The facts are there for everyone to see. - Heimdal 10:47, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Cyprus

Paul, I think until there is a workable and enforceable process for resolving content disputes, I am not going to get involved in any more of them. I have already taken History of Poland and History of Bulgaria off my watchlist because I am sick of petty national-chauvinist edit wars. So I think I will decline the invitation of getting embroiled in Cypriot politics. Cheers. Adam 08:44, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Yalta

Feel free to join the discussion if you have anything to say. And Usenent is a known and reliable source of verified, academic information, of course *smirk*. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 09:04, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Khmer Rouge

This article will need protectionagain since Ruy Lopez has returned to editing it. Adam 01:12, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

This article needs protection against people like Adam Carr who think Norodom Sihanouk has been living in Beijing for the past few decades (I guess in Adam Carr's mind his reign as king of Cambodia from 1993-2004 was done remotely as well), and who think the Royal Government of National Union of Kampuchea, the National United Front of Kampuchea and the Cambodian People's National Liberation Armed Forces should all be called the "Khmer Rouge", because why shouldn't the name of a political party replace the name of a government (run by someone not in that party), an army (which includes people not in that party) and also a coalition of political parties of which it is one of (henceforth, I'm replacing all references to the Socialist International on Misplaced Pages with the Mozambican Liberation Front). -- Ruy Lopez 06:51, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

German reunification

Hello PMA, I´m from Hamburg, which belonged to West Germany - it is wrong that East Germany has become part of West Germany - at the 3rd of October 1990 the 5 countries of East Germany acceded to the ambit of the Basic Law of the Federal Republic of Germany. When it is said that East Germany has become part of West Germany then it is implied that West Germany is still existing - that is wrong.

After the 3rd of October 1990 East Germany as well as West Germany desisted from existing...

Citius Altius Fortius 08:02, 1 July 2005 (CEST) - Central European Summer Time

German reunification part 2 ?

Hi PMA, thanks for your input concerning Lothar de Mazière, I`m afraid I had to edit some of it away, I feel that the use of the word 'annexation' is POV though, pls read my remarks at the de maziere talk page, I though your input concerning Kohl was to some extent correct, I did edit some of it and hope to have come to some kind of workable compromise, pls check it out. ps. I`m wary of edit wars, so want to communicate about this amap , i`ll be on holiday for a few weeks starting 2morrow though..

kind regards --Isolani 8 July 2005 20:26 (UTC)

WikiStress

Sorry about your Wikistress level. Maybe a barnstar could help you

Take care, D. J. Bracey (talk) 22:15, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

Australian legislative election, 2007

What's wrong with it? Adam 08:10, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Victory over Japan Day

I know that you're aware of Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view, but you seem to have momentarily forgotten it here. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:58, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, in fact you said "right-wing extremists", not merely "right-wingers", and secondly your reason is original research (and "generally" isn't really enough anyway). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 07:45, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

TRNC

Your recent edit on TRNC was a bit irresponsible. We just settled a massive edit war and you just started it again. You should read the discussion; we had actually all come to an agreement. But now, thanks to you, the war will start again. Please help us try to make the TRNC page NPOV, neutral and not biased. It is misleading to mention the Turkish invasion without also mentioning the Greek coup and the 1960 treaty of guarantee. Please keep that in mind and read the talk page. --Son of the Tundra 03:06, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

TRNC seems OK at the moment. Which other articles are you refering to? I have largely given up on Macedonian articles except the ones I wrote myself. Adam 08:37, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

You actually saved me a job. I had no intention of leaving TURKISH PEACE OPERATION up on the site. It was put up there as a short-term dig at the person who pulled the GC 'edits' that I had reverted earlier. Damon Seath

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You are not supposed to just remove the tag, you are supposed to provide source information. Justinc 21:47, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Kerry Nettle

Pleaes indicate which of the reasons outlined in Misplaced Pages:Protection_policy#Uses is relevant to your lock on the Kerry Nettle article . Your lock on this page appears to based on your opnion of the content of the article which is against the guildelines. The guidelines state: Admins should not protect pages which they have been involved with (involvement includes making substantive edits to the page or expressing opinions about the article on the talk page).. Note that you have expressed an opinion about that article. --Wm 09:47, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Also, procedure states that protected pages should be listed at Misplaced Pages:Protected_page with the reason for protection, but you have not complied with this. --Wm 10:42, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Role playing

Thanks for the invitation to the role playing game. It looks really interesting, but I'm not sure I have time for it -- there are way too many things going on in my life at the moment. Deb 20:56, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Simpsons Video Games

Hi. I was just curious why you removed the sentence on The Simpsons page about Electronic Arts having the rights to Simpsons video games; you didn't leave an edit summary, so I was unsure of your intent. Thanks in advance for getting back to me. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 20:59, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Page Redesign

I, Mollsmolyneux, have redesigned the List of incomplete Doctor Who serials page. To view it please Click Here. Please leave any comments you have about the page on My Talk Page and tell me if you think I should put the page on. -- Mollsmolyneux 12:51, 12 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Kim Il-sung reverting

could you please explain why you're reverting wholesale all my edits & proofreading of this article? i think i tried hard to make things more legible & remove some unprofessional language. the president of south korea is id'd as president of "south korea" not "republic of korea," for example, so this article should be made consistent with the common english name policy. statements such as "real source of power" are speculative original research, not something you'd find in a reputable encyclopedia. early bio is not subject to "considerable debate" so much as n.k. saying one thing & everyone else saying something else. n.k. sources are not of "questionable validity" as simply contradicted by independent sources. is it necessary to repeat his first wife died "in childbirth" AND "while giving birth" in the same sentence? what is wrong with wikilinking Pyongyang? etc etc. please specify what you actually disagree with. Appleby 22:12, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Afd

Hi PMA,

I've opened up an AFD for Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Naming conventions (Western nobility). That article was created in effect as an alternative to Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (names and titles) and then rewritten by the author, in a cut and paste. I strongly disapprove of someone doing a cut and paste of one article, moving it to a new (badly named) page and editing it without a consensus (or even it would seem an awareness among people that this new page existed), and in the process losing the old article's edit history. As a longtime contributor on the topic of royal and noble naming you might wish to cast a vote on the issue. ] 00:11, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

Frank Forde

Quite so. Well spotted. Adam 07:07, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Fitzroy Football Club

Is there any particular reason that you have been removing any references to the post-merger Fitzroy Football Club? JPD (talk) 19:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I didn't think you were disrespecting the game - if I had thought that, I would have reverted without asking you why you did it! That sounds like a good reason, but it would be good to have a source showing that it was in fact a merger of the legal entities, not just a contract between them or something like that. I tend to think that the "modern" FFC should at least get a mention at Fitzroy Football Club, too, even if we don't support their claim that it's still the same entity. JPD (talk) 19:32, 4 December 2005 (UTC)