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Template

Hi, Eisenhower, can you make a template for this project?Ray-Ray 01:03, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

American Presidents only?

Hi, just found this page from the Community Portal. From the page, it appears that this project is about American presidents. If this is so, I'd suggest that you move this to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject American Presidents or something similar. Good luck! —MiraLuka 03:57, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I came here to say much the same. WP:CSB may not be happy! --Midnighttonight 05:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I'll make it about other Presidents to then. Nevermind, how do you change the name of your project?Ray-Ray 15:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I've moved it to US Presidents. Also, are we sure the adopt-an-article thing is a good idea? People aren't going to be around full time, so putting teams to work in such timescales may not actually work. Perhaps best to have various articles to choose from, so that people with knowledge on one subject can add to their specialism. Also, as many of the articles have a lot of information already, it might be that the articles need more editing than expansion... ConDem 17:56, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

I like it though...Ray-Ray 19:21, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

for Eisenhower...

Would you like to be in my group for the A.A.A.? (Adopt-A-Article)

Sure. But people who supports deletion herehere I DO NOT want to work with. General Eisenhower • (at war or at peace) 21:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Collaborations

I think the collaborations need to be changed - with the exception of Grant and Johnson, they are all already featured articles, and so any improvement we could make would be extremely minor. ConDem 23:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

ok, I will!Ray-Ray 23:41, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

What is going on? This project is about US Presidents, not Spanish monarchs or musicals. ConDem 23:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

sorry, can you help me find some good articles? but george washington has to stay!Ray-Ray 23:54, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can't do much at the moments, because I'm meant to be revising for my exams. But if you want this project to go places, find some US President articles that are in need of improvement. Take a look at them, and if they already seem really good, there's not much point. Unfortunately, I think most of them are already quite extensive, but some of the really minor presidents could use some work - how about adding them to the list? ConDem 23:58, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Now I'm done!Ray-Ray 00:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Assess the material and define your scope

I would like to pose two questions: (one) does this project cover things like the White House that relate to the presidents or just the biographies? And two, since we only have 42 biographies to work with (Grover Cleveland served twice), how about completeing the table below?--HereToHelp 01:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Contact with WP US Presidents
Article	Date	Assessment	Comments
List of Presidents of the United States (talk)	October 30, 2008	List	Defeatured on date given.
President of the United States (talk)	May 17, 2006	B	Formerly featured but still good.
Seal of the President of the United States (talk)	July 4, 2009	B	Could be a good article with some TLC.
White House (talk)	May 17, 2006	B	Many short sections give a hodgepodge feel.
Air Force One (talk)	October 12, 2004	B	Needs cleanup.
Marine One (talk)	July 20, 2006	C	Expansion Needed.
George Washington (talk)	June 6, 2011	GA	Date is date promoted.
John Adams (talk)	September 26, 2015	GA	Date is date promoted.
Thomas Jefferson (talk)	May 17, 2006	B	Former GA. Needs to be NPOVified towards the bottom and shortened.
James Madison (talk)	January 4, 2022	GA	Date is date promoted.
James Monroe (talk)	May 19, 2006	B	Needs more life info.
John Quincy Adams (talk)	May 19, 2006	B	Needs more information, especially on the life part. Table does too much about presidency.
Andrew Jackson (talk)	February 27, 2018	FA	Date is date promoted
Martin Van Buren (talk)	October 14, 2017	B	Needs more info on post-White House political activities.
William Henry Harrison (talk)	March 7, 2009	FA	Date is date featured.
John Tyler (talk)	June 12, 2014	FA	Date is date featured.
James K. Polk (talk)	February 17, 2018	FA	Date is date promoted.
Zachary Taylor (talk)	May 4, 2013	GA	Date is date promoted.
Millard Fillmore (talk)	January 21, 2017	FA	Date is date featured.
Franklin Pierce (talk)	September 13, 2014	FA	Date is date promoted.
James Buchanan (talk)	March 2, 2010	B	Needs expansion and probably some NPOVifying: if we're going to trash him , do it with sources.
Abraham Lincoln (talk)	December 16, 2010	GA	Date is date promoted.
Andrew Johnson (talk)	February 17, 2013	FA	Date is date featured.
Ulysses S. Grant (talk)	March 31, 2015	FA	Date is date featured.
Rutherford B. Hayes (talk)	February 13, 2011	FA	Date is date featured.
James A. Garfield (talk)	May 2, 2015	FA	Date is date featured
Chester A. Arthur (talk)	September 27, 2011	FA	Date is date featured
Grover Cleveland (talk)	March 8, 2008	FA	Date is date featured.
Benjamin Harrison (talk)	January 3, 2009	FA	Date is date featured.
William McKinley (talk)	March 28, 2012	FA	Date is date featured.
Theodore Roosevelt (talk)	June 27, 2008	C	Former featured article; date is date demoted.
William Howard Taft (talk)	May 18, 2016	FA	Date is date featured.
Woodrow Wilson (talk)	July 30, 2014	B	Major revisions and c/e made - candidate for peer review/promotion to GA?
Warren G. Harding (talk)	August 20, 2015	FA	Date is date featured.
Calvin Coolidge (talk)	March 3, 2007	FA	Date is date featured.
Herbert Hoover (talk)	June 27, 2009	B	The info is there, it just needs to be presented well. More inline sources would be nice.
Franklin D. Roosevelt (talk)	February 15, 2018	GA	Date is date rated GA.
Harry S. Truman (talk)	November 18, 2012	FA	Date is date featured.
Dwight D. Eisenhower (talk)	May 20, 2006	B	Trim sections towards bottom, they aren't that important. Needs inline notes, but has good general refs.
John F. Kennedy (talk)	May 20, 2006	B	Formatting issues, needs additional citations.
Lyndon B. Johnson (talk)	May 20, 2006	B	Needs additional citations.
Richard Nixon (talk)	August 22, 2011	FA	Date is date featured.
Gerald Ford (talk)	April 8, 2006	FA	Date is date featured.
Jimmy Carter (talk)	September 11, 2021	GA	Date is date promoted.
Ronald Reagan (talk)	February 6, 2008	FA	Date is date featured.
George H. W. Bush (talk)	December 22, 2016	B	Former good article; date is date demoted.
Bill Clinton (talk)	September 7, 2011	GA	Date is date promoted.
George W. Bush (talk)	February 13, 2007	GA	Date is date promoted.
Barack Obama (talk)	August 12, 2004	FA	Date is date featured.
Donald Trump (talk)	September 18, 2016	B	Date is last GA nomination.
Joe Biden (talk)	January 21, 2023	B	Incumbent.

In fact, how about we template that? Misplaced Pages:WikiProject US Presidents/1.0 Rankings.--HereToHelp 01:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I guess I should add that you should use these rankings, and that you are now part of the Version 1.0 Work via WikiProjects team!--HereToHelp 01:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Partner needed...

Will someone be my partner?--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 15:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

there is also another userbox that general Eisenhower made, but he hasnt put it on the project page yet...Ray-Ray 16:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Suggestions

Might i suggest you create a banner for talk pages, like the one at Talk:James Monroe (and possibly coordinate with the WikiProject U.S. Congress. :) -Quiddity 17:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

For newbies

Though I don't like to admit it, I am a noob. I have never worked on a project before and am relatively new to this. However, i would like to join your group (i added myself to the members list). What should I be doing? And how much knowledge do I need (All I have is the recent finish of an APUSH course in school)? TheGodEmperor 01:31, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

We know; the red (nonfunctioning) link to your userpage is a dead giveaway. But as long as you make useful edits, we'll take you in. Start researching, or better yet, complete those ratings from a few posts up and then we'll know what needs it most. As for more on Misplaced Pages in general...just a moment, let me welcome you. (Always put new stuff on the bottom of talk pages).--HereToHelp 01:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Question

Do you guys include Acting Presidents (Dick Cheney is the only Acting President thusfar not to be a president as Bush Sr. was elected right after his Vice Presidency)? Also, given that you cover some articles relating to US Presidents, do you plan to work on the ultimate presidential urban legend, David Rice Atchison? Staxringold 23:23, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Dunno. When we're done with these we can move on to the Vice Presidents.--HereToHelp 00:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I asked about Cheney not because he is VP, but because he was Acting President of the United States for a couple of hours. I was wondering if you folks included them (well, thusfar because as I said with Bush Sr. being elected regular President, HIM, referring to Cheney) as president(s). Staxringold 01:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

This is a new project; we really don't know. We haven't even assesed what we have!--HereToHelp 02:18, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Council

Why don't we elect council members? And if a team's article becomes featured, does the team get a position on the council?--71.30.192.15 01:25, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Frankly, that's just a way to spark bad feelings with no redeeming value. It's what you do, not your position, that counts. Would anyone oppose disolving the council?--HereToHelp 02:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I didn't mean to dissolve the council. I meant why don't we elect members or if a team's page gets featured, do they get a spot? Just askin' and givin' ideas, y'all. Notin' else.-GangstaEasterBunny-18:13, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Dissolve except for president, who will do all jobs of the council but no edits.-Gangsta-Easter-Bunny-(22:36, 20 May 2006 (UTC))

Page Template

Here it is: Template:WP:USP-A The code is {{WP:USP-A}}.-GangstaEasterBunny-18:16, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Don't put that up anywhere yet. Let me work on it, but I'm busy now.--HereToHelp 20:21, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I made some serious modifications. Oh, check out this cool feature:

{{Template:WP:USP-A|class=FA}}

makes this:

Template:WP:USP-A

Of course, we have to finish ranking everything before we put this in, so we have more time to improve it.--HereToHelp 23:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking about having something about the importance of the articles, but most of these are Top or High, and arguably all Top. So there's no real point.--HereToHelp 23:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Bush Article

This is an article we won't be able to work on till 2008. Updaters will probably put in POV (just like the news). So we will either (A) don't work on that article till 2008, or (B) get two teams to work on it. Think about it, Ray-Ray.-GangstaEasterBunny-18:22, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Proposed portal

I have been working on Portals for a while, and have put together a proposed new portal to cover U.S. Government topics. The proposal is at Misplaced Pages:Portal/Proposals#United_States_Government, with a mock-up of the portal at User:Kmf164/United States Government. For a better idea of how portals work, check out Misplaced Pages:Featured portals. My thoughts were to use part of the portal to highlight featured articles and pictures. Another part of it could highlight current events (news stories, as well as things like current/pending legislation, nominations, Supreme Court cases/decisions, etc.). The third part could be some topic directory. The last section could highlight WikiProjects and things to do. I think the scope of the portal should include both what's current, as well as historical aspects. I'd like to welcome any suggestions on improving the draft. Also, would anyone here be interested in helping to maintain it, should it be approved. Maintenance would most importantly involve keeping the current events updated, but also choosing articles and pictures to feature, maintaining the list of articles/categories, etc. I think the best place to provide input is at User_talk:Kmf164/United_States_Government. Thanks. --Aude (talk | contribs) 19:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Presidential Stub

Should we make a stub for presidential categories?--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 21:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC)(actually I'm working on it) (too late!)

Here it is- This U.S. President-related article is a stub. You can help Misplaced Pages by talk:WikiProject United States Presidents|action=edit}} expanding it. --{{USP-stub}}

Uh...do we have any use for it? I mean, we have B-Class or better for everything. Don't rush head long into these sorts of things. Yes, be bold, but we don't need it.--HereToHelp 22:47, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Eventually we may need it though. (For Presidential parties and conventions, etc.)-Gangsta-Easter-Bunny-(00:04, 19 May 2006 (UTC))

New Council Ideas

The council should be elected. The President will have 6-month terms. The Vice-President will be elected with the President(running mates). The Secretary will have 3-month terms. The Newbie Welcomer will have a 1-month term. The Librarian will have 4-week terms, and project relations will have 2-week terms.--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 01:29, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

If this works I am running for Project Relations.--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 01:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

On the contrary, I think the council should be disolved. It is nothing but an impediment to improving articles. Just get out there and start improving stuff.--HereToHelp 01:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

I think the council is quite good. The President's job would be to look over the project. The Vice-President would look over the council more than the project. If the President (A) resigned, or (B) is caught vandalising U.S. presidential articles three times, s/he is impeached and the Vice-President takes over. The secretary would look after the templates, article status, project advertising... The newbie welcomer will welcome newbies. The librarian will find resources (wikipedian and non-wikipedia). Project relations will make sure we come out all right with other projects and MfD's. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gangsta-Easter-Bunny (talk • contribs) 12:55, 19 May 2006.

I'm still not convinced.--HereToHelp 20:16, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Why can't we all do whatever we want or can to help with President articles and associated templates, etc? Why on earth do we need a Council? That's the kind of thing which makes the project look like a fun club made up by school kids, rather than something designed to improve an encyclopedia. ConDem 01:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Amen! It's not your position but your contributions. Let's avoid bureaucracy whereever possible. We need something more like an adhocracy.--HereToHelp 03:02, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Dissolve the council!!!!! See above.-President GangstaEB-14:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

New course of action

I've finished assessing all of our material and have found some patterns: (1) there is a lot of stuff. If we do one a week, we still need about a year. (2) The A-Class articles need to be shortened, the B-Class articles need to be expanded, and a few A-Class articles are just about ready for an FAC. Here's what I propose: we have three Collaborations each week, chosen informally, from topics that need expansion (mostly B-Class), shortening (mostly A-Class), and tweaks, either for an FAC or to revisit something featured. This system would probably replace AAA, because while they are not mutally exclusive, they are redundant to each other. I have made a draft in my sandbox.--HereToHelp 17:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Sounds like a great idea. ConDem 00:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I've moved it to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject U.S. Presidents/Collaborations. Please discuss it here, though.--HereToHelp 01:36, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

I haven't seen any activity—please don't let this WikiProject become inactive—so if no one objects soon, I'll put this in and scrap AAA (hey, it's starting to look like a one man project.)--HereToHelp 01:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Done.--HereToHelp 11:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Community Portal

Somebody created Misplaced Pages:WikiProject U.S. Presidents/Community Portal and, not to be mean, but it's pretty much worthless. Anyone concur to delete it?--HereToHelp 11:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yup. ConDem 16:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Logo

We need a logo.File:WP-USPlogo.jpg

I think the Presidental Seal, without modifications, would suffice. And the barnstarr is kind of unnecessary, too. Remember that we probably should not modify these sorts of images without good (encyclopedia-related) reason. We don't need our own barnstar.--HereToHelp 11:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

O.K.--Gangsta-Easter-Bunny 12:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to put these up for deletion. --HereToHelp 12:59, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Nominate articles for Portal:United States

I've worked for the past month to update Portal:United States and keep it better maintained. Though, I think the portal would be even better with broader participation. One way to do that is instead of choosing the "selected article" myself each week, if others would nominate articles and help make decisions. (same goes for pictures, though these are stocked up through July 29) Articles about U.S. Presidents (and other U.S. politics) are welcome on the portal, as it's intended to cover all topics relating to the U.S. If you would like to nominate or weigh in on what should be featured, please visit the portal. Thanks. --Aude (talk contribs) 21:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Portal:Presidency of the United States

Yo guys - terribly sorry but I didn't "know of your existence." Please do check this portal out and contribute. Rama's arrow 17:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Invitation

I just wanted to let you know that the Biography WikiProject has been reorganized and we wanted to see if you guys were interested in merging with us? We've reorganized it so that it's more like the Military history project with task forces for the specialized areas. One of the task forces we could create could be Politicians-- by merging with us and becoming a task force, you wouldn't lose anything! You'd keep your same page here, it would just be redirected to Politicians task force (which we'd create) and you would continue as before, except that instead you'd also gain the benefits of being part of a larger project. We would give you a parameter to our Project banner (politicians-task-force=yes) and a note would appear that says the article is a part of that task force (see example on military history article), plus having peer reviews and collaborations, and being able to grade articles by class and importance so that the articles can be part of the WP:1.0 project and much more... Let me know what you think! If you are interested, you need to add your name to the task force vote we're currently having plange 16:15, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

That might work except the project is all but abandoned...I'm probably the only one who still watches the page. A "Selected president" on a separate portal might be interesting.--HereToHelp 17:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Then come join our politicians task force :-) plange 17:32, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

I said I watch the page...but I guess I, like everyone else, don't have the same enthusiasm as I did when this started. I may help out, I may not; my schedule's looking busy. But feel free to make use of what there is...the version 1.0 rankings, for instance.--HereToHelp 17:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Project Directory

Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:

• User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
• User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
• User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
• User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
• User:Badbilltucker/Science directory

and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:43, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:40, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Day Awards

Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Misplaced Pages Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 22:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Gerald Ford FAR

Gerald Ford has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:03, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Curse of Tippecanoe article

I know that this article might not be one that you think particularly relevant to your topic, but it does deal explicitly and exclusively with Presidents of the United States. I was wondering whether this project would want to include it within the project's scope or not. Badbilltucker 02:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Religion parameter discussion

A discussion has begun here to establish consensus regarding the religion parameter. All editors are invited to join the discussion. This message has been cross-posted to other relevant talk pages. Thanks. --MZMcBride 04:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

First ladies - Your purview or should they go to the United States project?

Do and should the First Ladies' articles be within the purview of this WikiProject? They're currently orphaned in the vast see of regular biographies, and, if the fawning government-written Sarah Childress Polk is any indication, in dire need of attention. Also, pending an answer, I went ahead and set up an expert request for you folk on that Polk. MrZaius 05:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

• • bump Noone interested in a First Ladies working group? Admittedly, I'm not, but I haven't ever met a female government or poli sci teacher that didn't focus overmuch on the topic. Hard to believe there are no takers, or even parties able to clarify the points on Talk:Sarah Childress Polk. MrZaius 17:00, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

• Second bump This expert request is nearly 8 months old. Anyone have anything to add to the article in question? It still seems somewhat odd and, due to its primary source, overly fawning. It could definitely use a fresh set of eyes. MrZaius 23:27, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

External links

Hello. I would appreciate feedback about the discussion taking place here. Thanks in advance. El_C 05:12, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Appleton links are useful: one user 24.94.139.230 has been adding links to the Appleton biographies. Appleton publishers was a main New York publisher of solid serious historical material in the 19th century--especially the Annual Cyclopedia (1860-1901) which I use all the time. Appleton published an excellent 6-volume compendium of biographies of famous Americans. They are factual and unbiased. It's hard to find outside big libraries so it's great they are online now and can be linked to Wiki articles. Stan Klos, an expert in historical documents, has done a good job in editing them and making them available. Rjensen 05:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Right, but we are getting spammed with them. Perhaps incorage the user adding the links to use citations? —— Eagle101 06:10, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

No it's not spam. Each link is appropriate to one and only one article. Rjensen 06:59, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Good JOB!

Hey! We're getting more US President Articles to be featured! Congratulations! –Eisenhowerofficial (e) 16:48, 12 March 2006 (UTC) 22:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)!

Flag icons

Just joined this project after learning about it on the FDR talk page (I've been contributing to that article for awhile). I'd like to see the Presidential Project template placed on the talk pages of other presidents, as well. It can always be updated later once the rating is completed.

Also, I'd like to propose a standardization of the use of flagicons in the Infoboxes. Some have none at all (such as Thomas Jefferson), others have the states of birth/death (such as John F. Kennedy), but no USA flag icon – which seems odd given the country of office.

I propose placing the US flag icon in the Infobox following "xx President of the United States", along with the state icons for birth/death. See Franklin D. Roosevelt for an example. Thought I should come here first for a consensus. If this is agreeable, I'd be happy to modify all the articles accordingly. JGHowes - 12:00, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

• It's been a month and no one has commented one way or the other, so I will go ahead with this proposal, OK? JGHowes - 14:38, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry. The sad truth is that most WikiProjects fall derelict pretty quickly; see here. But yeah, sounds good.--HereToHelp 03:29, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Quick capitalization question

Should the word "administration" be capitalized or not?

• Reagan Administration
• Clinton Administration
• George W. Bush administration

--MZMcBride 19:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Peer review of Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy

The article Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy touches on presidential, congressional and goverment agency wikipedia projects. In case you're interested, a peer review request has been posted to Misplaced Pages:Peer_review#Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy. -- Yellowdesk 14:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

List proposal

Can't really tell how active this project is, but wanted to bring this proposal to your attention. After the recent deletion discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/List of United States Presidents by longevity I thought maybe it'd be good to take some preemptive steps to save this list and others. One of the things raised in the discussion was that there were just too many lists about U.S. presidents. I just spent some time learning how to use sortable lists and I came up with this: User:JayHenry/president. It's not completely finished yet, but I'm ready to see what people think -- it combines all of the information from List of United States Presidents by longevity, List of United States presidents by age at ascension to office, List of United States Presidents by time as former president, it also includes dates of birth and death, although it would not be a good replacement for those lists, as they contain other information (place, cause, etc.). The list is fully sortable! So what do people think? If we implement this list I'm pretty sure we can prevent president lists from showing up at WP:AFD. --JayHenry 21:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Ronald Reagan

Hi there. First off, I'm interested in becoming a member, and would love to join this WikiProject. Second, I am probably the main editor of the Ronald Reagan article, and seeing on the list of all the Presidents on this project page, I disagree with what it says about Ronald Reagan's article. Right now, it states the following: "Needs shortening, especially in lead"--we (the editors) have had long discussions about the lead on Reagan's talk page, and we came to a concensus-the current one. It's slightly longer than some of the others, but close to that of Calvin Coolidge, a WP:FA. So I think that the "especially in lead" part should be removed. Third, the "needs shortening" should also be removed, because right now, Reagan's article is 104 KB, only one higher than that of Gerald Ford's, a FA.

I think that it should read instead, "Close to being nominated for FA", because as soon as all the sources are filled in, I plan on submitting it for a peer review, and then for FA status. Thoughts? Happyme22 00:59, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Mildred Gale

Hello,

as part of the Notability wikiproject, and I'm trying to assess the notability of the article on Mildred Gale, George Washington's grandmother; and I could use some expert advice. See the details on the article's talk page. If you can spare some time, please add your comments there. Thanks! --B. Wolterding 13:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Bill Clinton

Hey, I have nominated Bill Clinton for a Misplaced Pages:Peer Review. I welcome any comments for improvement as I will give it an FAC run in the near future. Please go to Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Bill Clinton to make comments. BTW the article is presently at GA level on the page (but A on this project page). More over the Presidential project tag wasnt even on the Bill Clinton talk page so Ive added it. Best, LordHarris 12:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Templates and succession boxes

I was asked to help copyedit Harry S. Truman. Is there a preference for the use of succession boxes or templates or the use of both? My opinion would be to use the templates only, but I see that FDR uses both. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 16:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Also: should {{Lists of US Presidents and Vice Presidents}} be used in presidential articles? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford

The biography for Gerald Rudolff Ford who raised Gerald Ford and for whom Ford legally changed his name has been nominated for deletion as being non-notable. You can make your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gerald Rudolff Ford. Americasroof 05:18, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject American History Proposed

Comments and support would be appreciated here. Cheers, Corvus coronoides _talk 15:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

New WikiProject

famousamericans.net

The issue of these links has come up several times elsewhere since the March 2007 discussion here. We now have well over 1000 of these links added by several users reported by checkuser as "related". See this discussion on the Adminstrator's Noticeboard about this situation:

• Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard#Virtualology and Stanley L. Klos -- boon to our historical articles or just a bain of spam? (permanent link)

--A. B. 00:42, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

List of United States Presidential religious affiliations needs cleanup

The article List of United States Presidential religious affiliations is about to be put through a major cleanup, with some format changes and a close examination of sources. Please visit the article's talk page and comment. Mangoe (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

James K. Polk

I have nominated this article for Featured Article Review. Please come and review it, and help it retain FA status! Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:41, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Andrew Jackson and Hitler

This is being posted at this project page based on the recommendations of Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution#Turn to others for help. There is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Andrew Jackson#Search for Consensus -- Jackson and the "Final Solution.

The issue is whether an article in a Swedish language newspaper quoting a professor of comparative religion constitutes a reliable source justifying linking Jackson’s Indian Removal policy with Hitler’s Final Solution attempt to exterminate the Jewish race. There is a wealth of credible, academic material available to offer valid and harsh criticisms of Jackson’s policy without resorting to the extremes of comparisons with Hitler.

In any event, I would appreciate anybody with an opinion on the subject to weigh in at the Jackson link above. As the matter stands, there is only one editor supporting retaining the language, but I am not sure that a consensus for removing it currently exists (many in opposition are IPs or infrequent editors. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 16:09, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Theodore Roosevelt FAR

Theodore Roosevelt has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:31, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Whether or not this article should be a "featured article", it is clearly not a C-class article as it is currently labelled. I just visited it recently as I was scanning C-class articles and was shocked to find it listed there. I am not really interested in understanding all the rating criteria, but somebody needs to fix this.Vontrotta (talk) 09:05, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Andrew Johnson

I've been doing quite a lot of work on Andrew Johnson and think it's come a long way since it was assessed as a B-class article back in May 2006. Would appreciate a bit of help finishing it up to GA status or possibly even higher.

Cheers, Jaakobou 15:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

List of Presidents of the United States nominated at WP:FLRC

List of Presidents of the United States has been nominated at WP:FLRC. The discussion can be found here. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 21:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Barack Obama at FAR

Barack Obama has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured quality. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:13, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Inauguration Day has been merged into United States presidential inauguration

I have merged the two named articles together, as has been long proposed. Please review them, especially with an eye reducing repetition. Mangoe (talk) 18:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

List of United States Presidents who died in office

List of United States Presidents who died in office has been nominated for FL status. Any help is appreciated --Mr.crabby (Talk) 02:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Party political offices

Please come discuss policy regarding party political office inclusion in infoboxes, navbox templates, succession boxes and WP:LEADs Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Biography#Political_Party_offices.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:48, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Obama task force or WikiProject?

Would people here be interested in establishing a WP:task force for Obama-related articles? The task force could be a shared subgroup of WP:WikiProject U.S. Presidents, WP:WikiProject Politics, and "inactive" tagged WP:WikiProject United States Government. A simple prototype is at User:Mike Serfas/Obama, which would be moved here.

Alternatively, J JMesserly proposed a WikiProject for the Obama administration, focusing mostly on the Obama technological agenda at User:J JMesserly/WikiProject Obama administration which has attracted some support. Mike Serfas (talk) 07:32, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Rootology made the project. Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Barack Obama - I am torn...but believe it should STILL be a task force of this project. We cannot have a project for every country's leader... -- Mjquin_id (talk) 02:50, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - actually, I agree with you. The guidelines on WikiProjects advise to have a much broader pool of contributors than WikiProject:Barack Obama currently has before proceeding. I don't really have a good sense of what routine upkeep is required to run a WikiProject, but I note that many WikiProjects with thirty or more listed members have been tagged as inactive.

I think that the level of support recommended for a task force can be reached, and it might be easier to manage. Best of all, in theory, it should be possible to tag articles once for the Obama task force and thereby bring them beneath three WikiProjects at once (four if you count the new Barack Obama WikiProject), and potentially have all that manpower to get them rated and improved.

Because of the high level of interest in the Obama campaign and in Misplaced Pages, one would think that there would be a vast pool of interested contributors, but consider that the my.barackobama.com "Wikipedians for Obama" list comprises only 123 members. This really shouldn't be surprising when we consider that with 300 million Americans, Misplaced Pages and the Obama web base could each have 200,000 members and still have only that much overlap by random chance. Getting people willing to actually edit Misplaced Pages articles will doubtless be more difficult than getting them to subscribe to a mailing list, so it may take substantial recruitment efforts to sign up enough people for the WikiProject to work well.

As I understand it, the main thing I need to get the ball rolling is your consent to place the task force pages under WikiProject U.S. Presidents, and after that we can work out the details. Meanwhile I think it would be best for all interested to sign up to all the developing projects in order to encourage further supporters while we decide which way to go. Mike Serfas (talk) 04:56, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Update: WP:WikiProject Barack Obama now has 17 people signed up, so it looks like it may stand. Mike Serfas (talk) 04:15, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Air Force One is counted, so does the Limo count??

Does the Presidential State Car (United States) (and by small default Official state car) fall under the WikiProject U.S. Presidents group? Don't wanna add the template to the talk page without confirmation.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 08:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Project Name (and Categories)

Any chance we can move the "actual" project name to the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_US_Presidents redirect? The periods cause incredible grief with templates and categories. -- Mjquin_id (talk) 03:01, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

How to deal with a separate "Presidency" article

I note in that in the old version of Template:USPresidencies, that by factoring the "Presidency" section of a biography out into its own "Presidency" article (as is done for Washington · Jefferson · Roosevelt · Eisenhower · Ford · Reagan · Clinton · Bush · Obama), we create a bit of an editorial dilemma. We should attempt for formulate a "recommended" balance between how the material should be distributed between:

• The lead of the biography
• The "Presidency" section of the biography
• The "Presidency" page itself.

The current FA-quality articles include Ford, Reagan and Obama (the latter of whom there is yet little to say). In the case of Ford, the "Presidency" section is trivial at the moment while in the case of Reagan (who had a relatively popular and eventful two-term career), we have a rather hefty section of this FA which stands at 150kb. Should we strive for greater uniformity between the contemporary presidents (let's say, starting with Ford)? I would think that a similar structure and balance between these articles would be of service to the reader.--Spellage (talk) 06:43, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Saxbe fix

This year marks the 100th anniversary of the first Saxbe fix, which became effective on March 4, 1909 and facilitated a March 6, 1909 appointment. I have been trying to get this through the WP:FAC process so that I can propose it at WP:TFAR to be a WP:TFA. Because of its centennary and its membership in an underrepresented category of articles, it would have extremely high priority and almost assuredly be approved for the main page on either the 4th or the 6th if it is promoted to WP:FA. I intend to renominate it at WP:FAC in five to seven days for one final attempt at FA promotion. The article could use any assistance that you may be able to lend in terms of copyediting so that it represents the best of WP. This is your chance to get invovled not only in a FA if we get this cleaned up, but an FA that would surely go to the main page. Please come help clean this up. Also, any details on the Hilda Solis fix that you may be able to find to properly cite that eventuality would also be helpful.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:48, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Commentary welcome at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Saxbe fix.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:40, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

James K. Polk

I would like to expand this article to GA status, but I could use some help. Is anyone interested? If you are, either respond here or on my

George W. Bush GA Sweeps: On Hold

I have reviewed George W. Bush for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 22:10, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

GA Reassessment of George Washington

I have done a GA Reassessment of the George Washington article as part of the GA Sweeps project. I have found the article to need work on referencing. My review is here. I am notifying all the interested projects that this article is on hold for a week pending work that needs to be done. I don't think it will require too much to satisfy the GA Criteria and I sincerely hope that someone will step forward and take this project on. It would be a shame to delist what is in all senses but one, a good article. If you have any questions please contact me on my talk page. H1nkles (talk) 21:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Gerald Ford FAR

I have nominated Gerald Ford for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.

Thomas Jefferson GAR notification

Thomas Jefferson has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:42, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Lincoln's disam page

A few people are saying that Abraham Lincoln, one of the most famous Presidents, shouldn't be mentioned in the lead of the Lincoln disambiguation page. I'm saying Lincoln gets over a quarter-million hits a month...he should be in the lead. If you agree, commenthere Purplebackpack89 (talk) 03:18, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

• WikiProject United States Presidents