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:# Support, and I strongly endorse the bit about this matter not being prejudiced. We may discover that it is a fabrication. We can only determine an appropriate course by allowing the parties to be confronted with the evidence against them—and this isn't suited for a public forum. On-wiki evidence from the community would also be helpful in corroborating or disproving the existence of misconduct. ] '']'' 23:02, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | :# Support, and I strongly endorse the bit about this matter not being prejudiced. We may discover that it is a fabrication. We can only determine an appropriate course by allowing the parties to be confronted with the evidence against them—and this isn't suited for a public forum. On-wiki evidence from the community would also be helpful in corroborating or disproving the existence of misconduct. ] '']'' 23:02, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | ||
:# Support - per preceding. ] (] '''·''' ]) 23:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Dr90s BLP-POV violations, incivility, sockpuppetry
Initiated by Thibbs (talk) at 20:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Involved parties
- Thibbs (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), filing party
- 43.244.132.168 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Dr90s (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Confirmation that all parties are aware of the request
- Confirmation that other steps in dispute resolution have been tried
- Article talk-page discussions: 21/11/08-16/01/09 (some admin involvement), 15-20/12/08 (moderated by admin Hermione1980), 14-17/06/09, 16-18/06/09, 18/06/09
- User warnings/alerts: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
- User notifications: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
- SPI Reports: 1, 2-4
- BLP/N Report: 1
- Administrators' Noticeboard Reports: AN/I #1, AN/3RR, AN/I #2
- Other: RFP, NPOV report (not directed at Dr90s in isolation)
Statement by Thibbs
This makes the 7th time I will have filed a report on this user, a well-known sockpuppeteer with a history for BLP-vandalism and incivility. Filing reports takes me a lot of time and energy and in this case I am looking to streamline the process so that I can spend less time filing reports and more time editing. As a sockpuppet case, the natural place for me to post is at SPI. I am generally quite pleased with the way the SPI reports have gone, however I find myself explaining the same story over and over and over again to new administrators who are not as familiar with the history of this puppetmaster as I am.
I have twice sought and was granted designated administrators who I could go to in order to streamline the process, however at the moment one has retired (User:Hermione1980), and the other is on a 3+ month WikiBreak (User:Tanthalas39).
The reason I am filing this report is to request an official ArbCom-signed topic ban or total ban on Dr90s and his sockpuppets. If this motion is granted, I will have an additional reason (i.e. "Evasion of bans or other remedies issued by the arbitration committee (closed cases only)") to request that official action be taken at SPI. This will streamline the process for me and improve the ability of the community to react to further SOCK violations by this indefatigable vandal. -Thibbs (talk) 22:21, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Statement by Nathan
I don't think this really requires an arbitration case; the sockmaster is clearly not welcome at Misplaced Pages, and de facto banned even if no official sanction is on record. Thibbs has established a record of finding groups of sockpuppets in this area, and I think the clerks at SPI (of which I am one) would be willing to consider his checkuser requests with somewhat less exhaustive evidence than he has been posting. We do review the case archives, and a whole history isn't necessary for each new report.
If you like, you can ping me on my talkpage if you find a report isn't being processed quickly enough - but we are usually pretty good at keeping up. Nathan 22:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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Statement by {Party 3}
Clerk notes
- This area is used for notes by non-recused Clerks.
Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (0/0/0/1)
- I appreciate the good faith and frustration of the filing party. However, I think it is clear at this point that the sockmaster in question is community-banned and that any additional socks should also be banned, especially if they continue to edit in the same unacceptable fashions that led to the ban in the first place. The structure of the WP:SSI pages has become rather more complex than it used to be, which I hope is not deterring valid reports of serious problems, but opening an arbitration case just to expedite the paperwork there should hopefully not be necessary. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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Motion to open a case
The Arbitration Committee is aware from multiple sources of the situation and allegations discussed in this thread on the incidents noticeboard. Although no formal request for arbitration has yet been filed, several editors have called for this situation to be reviewed by the Arbitration Committee, and it is clear that no form of dispute resolution short of arbitration is likely to resolve the dispute.
I move that, on the committee's own motion, an arbitration case be opened in this matter.
Evidence should be presented within one week after opening of the case. For purposes of initial presentation of evidence, the case may include all issues reasonably arising from this situation. At a later date, the Arbitration Committee may further clarify the scope of the case and what issues are comprised within it.
Editors are expected to observe appropriate decorum on the case pages and in any other discussion of this incident.
Editors are instructed to refrain from disclosing on-wiki the name or other identifying information concerning any editor who does not edit under or disclose on-wiki his or her real-world identity. Any evidence that would have the potential effect of making such a disclosure shall not be posted on-wiki, but shall be e-mailed to the Arbitration Committee. The committee will take appropriate steps to ensure that no editor is sanctioned based on private evidence without an appropriate opportunity to respond to such evidence, while also seeking to ensure that editors' identifying information is not unnecessarily disclosed.
All editors, whether or not they are potential parties to the case, are strongly urged to exercise consideration and discretion in dealing both on- and off-wiki with all aspects of this highly sensitive situation. Any behavior that would unnecessarily inflame or widen the dispute should be avoided.
This motion is adopted in the interests of expediting consideration of this matter. Neither this motion nor any other action taken today by the Arbitration Committee reflects any predetermination of the merits of the case.
The 24-hour waiting period before opening a case is waived.
The Clerk will give notice of this motion, when adopted, to all editors mentioned in the thread cited above and post notice on the appropriate noticeboards.
Proceed accordingly.
Motion offered by Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:03, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Editor statements
- The Arbitration Committee is aware of the comments already made in the ANI thread linked to above. Comments already made there need not be repeated here for the arbitrators to be aware of them. Editor comments relating to the appropriateness of proceeding with an arbitration case are welcome in this section; they should be as concise as possible, bearing in mind that if the motion is adopted, evidence, talk, and workshop pages will be created for the more complete explanation of each participant's position. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
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Statement by (user 2)
Clerk notes
Question: The notes below are written as though this is a full motion; for the purposes of knowing when to open the case, are we looking for a majority as suggested below or the usual net four? Hersfold 22:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- (not clerk or arb, clerk should move if need be) I'm not sure if a case can be opened by motion (if it can, it makes the whole net 4 rule moot), but it can probably fixed by interpreting all aye votes as accept votes as well as votes in favor of the motion's conditions and modifications on the case, and any nay votes as no to both, unless the arbitrator indicates otherwise.--Tznkai (talk) 22:50, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Arbitrator votes and comments
- On a motion, a majority of all the active, non-recused arbitrators is required for adoption. There are currently 10 arbitrators listed as active, so a majority is 6. If any arbitrator listed as inactive votes on this motion, he or she shall be moved to active for purposes of this case and the majority adjusted accordingly.
- Support:
- As proposer. This situation requires our expedited attention and under the particular circumstances it is appropriate for us to proceed nostra sponte rather than wait for a formal case to be filed. I would like to reemphasize that nothing in this motion, or any other action taken today, reflects a predetermination of any aspect of the matter. Newyorkbrad (talk) 22:03, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Support the motion. FloNight♥♥♥ 22:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Support, and I strongly endorse the bit about this matter not being prejudiced. We may discover that it is a fabrication. We can only determine an appropriate course by allowing the parties to be confronted with the evidence against them—and this isn't suited for a public forum. On-wiki evidence from the community would also be helpful in corroborating or disproving the existence of misconduct. Cool Hand Luke 23:02, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Support - per preceding. Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:07, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
- Oppose:
- Abstain: