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September 17

My Userpage

I am not sure what is wrong, but today I logged on and my userpage has gone crazy. Could someone help me with that? Maybe it has to do with wikimedia updates??? Because no one has edited it but me in the past few days...

Marx01 00:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

People may see different things on a page depending on many circumstances. Can you be more specific than "gone crazy"? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Edit Problem

I just made minor edit to Phil Brogan article and entire page disappeared! I tried to reverse edit using "undo" function, but it didn't restore the page. This article has DYK pending and I don't want to be responsible for losing chance to have that article highlighted on Main Page. What did I do wrong? How do I fix it?--Orygun (talk) 00:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Just wait. This is a problem with the software. I currently see this note at top of pages: "Software updates are being applied to Wikimedia sites; we're shaking out some problems where some articles don't display correctly." It has been reported at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)/Archive 65#Vanishing articles? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:49, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The bug has been fixed. Affected pages can be restored by purging them. I have purged Phil Brogan. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Stow-Munroe Falls High School Article

I realize there are software updates being added, but I thought someone higher up (than me) might need to be notified that the Stow-Munroe Falls High School article fails to display any body text whatsoever. The edit tab shows what appears to be the most recently revised text, but again, it will not display itself under the article tab in article form.Bulldawgdog2 (talk) 00:47, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

This is a known problem affecting many articles. See the above section. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

It should work now. Try purging the page now. —MC10 (T•C•GB•L•EM) 02:50, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Link Problem

Why do you think the link to Mozi here: doesn't find this page ? I'll test it here too: Mozi. Saudade7 03:13, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The article on camera obscura is not on this website but on our sister website the Simple English Misplaced Pages. Although as far as I kow all pages are possible to be linked between one sister site and another, you have to place a prefix to tell the software what other site you wish to link to or it defaults to looking for the link to Mozi on the home site, and since there is no article for Mozi on the Simple English Misplaced Pages, it was a red link. I fixed it with this edit though I'm not sure of their policy on linking to Misplaced Pages articles. It may be that I should be reverted. Red links function to tell people "there is no article yet on this subject here" which is often a good thing, and making a link to here may disguise that gap. As for how I did it, you can link to Misplaced Pages by placing "w:" before the word. You then pipe the link so that the extra syntax doesn't appear.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

• Oh thanks. Strange. I didn't even realize that I was on the Simple version - I just Googled the two different pages in two different tabs and saw "Misplaced Pages". Thanks for being more aware than I was. 70.143.84.249 (talk) 04:44, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

can we give 5 volt input to the motherboard using two wires

can we give 5 volt input to the motherboard using two wires

(edit conflict) I'm not sure why anyone would want to plug 5V to a motherboard like that, but you can ask at the computing reference desk if you like. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 08:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

List of A&R Music scouts Australia

Dear sir, madam,

I was looking for A&R Tallent scouts in sydney and capital cities as well as Tallent scouts asociated with EMI, Sony, Universal and names of people who run them 123.3.157.4 (talk) 08:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the Miscellaneous section of Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Assignment

I am doing an Assignment Im wondering If you could help

Kind regards Tim

That depends on the kind of help you want. The Reference Desk will be glad to help you find information or understand a concept but you have to show them that you've attempted the problem yourself first. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Up to a point, but we won't do your homework for you. – ukexpat (talk) 13:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Categories

I have a question about specific categories and sub-categories (relating to towns and cities in England). Where should this best be posted? Thanks. Eldumpo (talk) 09:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

WT:ENGLAND perhaps? Zain Ebrahim (talk) 10:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Sock puppet?

Why is my user name considered a possible "sock puppet"? --Jimmknows (talk) 07:03, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The person who tagged it as such, User:Jerem43, is still active. You would have to ask him directly at his talk page, User talk:Jerem43, since I don't see what evidence he was basing such a tagging. --Jayron32 12:45, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Related articles column

I haven't been around for a while, why is there a "related articles" column on the left? right over the search bar. Can I hide it? Also, when using Beta a third of my screen gets taken over by the "related articles" making it impossible to edit/navigate the articles. I'm I the only one? can I get some links to the discussions/info please?--Yamanbaiia 13:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

To post general feedback/questions, see this page. For bugs, post here. Hope this helps! hmwith☮ 14:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

"Software updates are being applied to Wikimedia sites; we're shaking out a few remaining issues."

What are the updates?Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 13:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I think this is the list of updates. Extensions like cite.php have also been updated; see Misplaced Pages talk:Footnotes#cite.php update. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  14:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

So how will wikipedia change?Accdude92 (talk) (sign) 14:05, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

asking a question

how can i ask a qustion to wikipedia

You could start by actually asking a question, as opposed to asking a question on how to ask a question. Try Misplaced Pages:Reference desk for starters. Baseball Bugs carrots 14:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

If your question concerns how to use Misplaced Pages, then ask here just as you asked this question. If it is a factual question, post at the appropriate reference desk. ∙ AJCham 16:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Autonumbering in a table

I want to add a rank down the left hand side of this table; I know that in normal articles you can simply put a '#' to autonumber, but it doesn't seem to work in a table. Any help appreciated! GiantSnowman 14:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

That won't work across cell boundaries. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  15:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh right - is there any solution? GiantSnowman 15:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

There is one under development at User:Pee Tern/Sandbox/Template/autonumbered list/doc 152.91.9.190 (talk) 02:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Java Script

I customised my Java Script page a while back. I added some code for an offline/online icon. I've since deleted that code. I want to delete the page, because I think it's causing me some problem elsewhere. I've tried to add a speedy deletion tag, but that just gets included into the code and doesn't work. Any ideas? ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 15:32, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

You cannot delete the default js page for any skin. If you blank it completely, then bypass your cache, you should be back to "factory default". – ukexpat (talk) 15:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I didn't want to delete the default page, I wanted to delete my custom page. Sorry if I didn't explain myself properly. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 16:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

For the past 24 hours, it was impossible for administrators to delete the css and js pages of users. I'll delete it now for you. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:40, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks! ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 16:56, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Making User Page Live

I created an account, and then wrote an article as a user subpage. I have saved it, and would not like to make it live on WikiPedia. How do I do this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.9.238.220 (talk • contribs)

First you will need to tell us the user name you were logged in with when you created the subpage. You were logged out when you posted your message. The article will need to be moved to the mainspace, but you will not be able to do that until your account is autoconfirmed - 10 edits and at least 4 days old. If we know the user name, we can take a look at it and either move it for you, or suggest improvements that should be made before it is moved. – ukexpat (talk) 15:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

My picture with Ewan McGregor

Hello,

I recently discovered that my face was in the picture with Ewan McGregor on his Misplaced Pages page. It seems today that the picture was edited (by you, I believe? CactusWriter?) and now my face has been blurred. Although I was never asked permission for my face to be used in the original, I was very happy that it was there. I really do not think that the original picture was at all taking away from Mr. McGregor's centrality in the picture, and my presence in the picture is so minimal that I was simply flattered to see myself appear. Any way the original could be placed back? As the "blurred person" I am giving you my permission. :)

thank you, Debra 99.232.9.13 (talk) 15:42, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

The original image is File:Ewan McGregor The Men Who Stare at Goats TIFF09.jpg and the new version is File:Ewan McGregor The Men Who Stare at Goats cropped.jpg. If you are not mentioned in the article Ewan McGregor and don't have a close relationship with him then readers may just be confused about who the person in the image is, so it seems sensible to me to crop and blur the image. You can however suggest a change back to the original image at Talk:Ewan McGregor. You should not make the change yourself due to a conflict of interest. The change was made today by User:CactusWriter who can be contacted directly at User talk:CactusWriter. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Cable TV question

I currently run a daycare centre. The children before school and at lunch break watch the Disney Channel. I do pay extra to carry this station for that purpose. I find it very educational and so do the parents. I'm going to take the station off my Bell cable network. There are so many repeat shows that they know them off by heart and are therefore not interested in watching them anymore. There is no need to pay extra for things that are duplicated continuously. Is there any explanation for this constant repeat of programs and nothing new??—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.82.82 (talk • contribs)

Have you tried Misplaced Pages's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Misplaced Pages, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 16:30, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Add a link?

I want to add a link to Misplaced Pages about Arthur Jones. It is a Arthur Jones Board or forum link. Can I do this and if so how? Here is the link. http://arthurjones.proboards.com/index.cgi

Well, basically, just do what you were doing, or maybe use . However, a link to a forum is probably not the most appropriate link on Misplaced Pages. See WP:EXTERNAL for guidelines on external links, especially which links are and are not appropriate.--Unionhawk 16:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Editing

Trying to edit post on Bryan Stinespring but can't find the "edit page" prompt that's supposed to be at the top of it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by DougDoughty (talk • contribs)

Do you see the "edit" tab at the very top of the page? – ukexpat (talk) 18:39, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Bryan Stinespring is semi-protected so it can only be edited by autoconfirmed users. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:50, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Doh! It didn't have prot template on it so that never occurred to me. – ukexpat (talk) 18:52, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Until your account becomes autoconfirmed you can suggest changes at Talk:Bryan Stinespring and place {{Editsemiprotected}} there. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:13, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

This is another example providing support for an idea someone else mentioned - the tabs for new users should not be removed, but grayed out, ideally with a tool tip with explanation. Same for the "move" button.--SPhilbrickT 15:54, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

references

I can't get a handle on how to use references. Is the <ref your reerence here ref> tag supposed to be filled with a number, like "1", or is it something else like a link?

I don't see any way to add the footnotes except by typing it in by hand. Do I type the numbers 1,2, etc... in front of the footnote, or is this somehow done automatically.

I keep getting errors —Preceding unsigned comment added by Etbetz (talk • contribs) 18:48, 17 September 2009

See WP:CITE. I fixed the first ref in the article for you, see this diff. – ukexpat (talk) 18:51, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

(EC) The correct syntax is: <ref>Reference (usually a template)</ref> and at the bottom in the references section {{reflist}} --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 18:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Please also note that a new way to do footnotes, with a feature that it leaves the main text less cluttered, became available a couple days ago. See Misplaced Pages:FN#List-defined_references for details.--SPhilbrickT 21:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I saw that. Am I the only one who finds the amended template documentation completely unintelligible? – ukexpat (talk) 21:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

publishing user page

I don't see a command to publish a page from my user page to the wikipedia. I've been using copy and paste. Is there a simple command or button?

You can use the move tab at the top of the page if you have an Misplaced Pages:Autoconfirmed account. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 18:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)The draft in your user space is already in mainspace as Filigree concrete. To avoid confusion, I suggest blanking the version in your user space and working on the version in mainspace. – ukexpat (talk) 18:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, good advice on blanking my user space. But for future reference, I don't see a "Move" tab in my user page. Where can I find it?

The move tab will appear when your account becomes autoconfirmed in 4 days. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

And the best practice is to create draft articles in a user subpage rather than directly in your user page. Let me know if you need any help with this. And please remember to sign your messages on the Help Desk and talk pages. – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Missing tools

Could someone please read this thread. I have some tools missing on the history page. I've asked a sys-op to delete all of my custom JS pages. But the tools still aren't there. When I log out they are there on the edit history. Please read this thread. ~~ Dr Dec (Talk) ~~ 19:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

As you have already mentioned this on the Village Pump, it is probably best to leave the discussion there. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 20:37, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Newbie How can I use a template for a new article.

100% Newbie starting to create 1st article - read lots of the materials but having trouble with the basics. I started an artice in a user subpage using a wizard that just gave me a blank page with no structure. I would like to delete what I did and back up and find and select and use a template to give me some structure /formatting. Could you tell me where to start to do this?

Thank you in advance

North8000 (talk) 20:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Since it's in your subpage, you can just blank it and start over - most people don't care what users do in their subpages, so long as it's not obscene, libellous, or attacking another editor. Also, I see you have used the word "template". You have to be careful: "template" on Misplaced Pages means something slightly different to "template" elsewhere. You might not be able to find a "template" per se; all Misplaced Pages articles are unique and written as the contributors saw fit. All you really need to know are contained in the following links:

• WP:FIRST

• WP:ARTICLE

• WP:MOS
• WP:How to write a great article

And if you're really ambitious, take a look at

• WP:GA

• WP:FA

--Intelligentsium 22:06, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Upon further investigation of the page which you mention, please also look at

• WP:BAND

• WP:N

• WP:SOURCE

• WP:CSD#A7

--Intelligentsium 22:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much for responding. But I think that there may have been a misunderstanding. I had already read most of the articles which you referenced which dealt with the nature, quality appropriateness of content. What I was looking for something like a "template" to just give me a starting point / something to look at on the hundreds of little programming/ syntax details that I don't know. E.G. sections, font sizes, table of contents etc.

Thank you again.

North8000 (talk) 01:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I've responded on your page basically saying find another article that seems roughly similar to what you want to make in its layout, and use that for your scaffolding. SimonTrew (talk) 02:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Hide Redirect Notice

Can I hide the redirect notice, ie (redirected from ARTICLE)? --Redsoxcool (talk) 23:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Is this the same question as you asked yesterday? Bencherlite 23:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

oops I put this in the wrong place. 

North8000 (talk) 00:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

September 18

oops I put this in the wrong place. 

North8000 (talk) 00:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Trouble with transclusion (newbie at templates)

Hello all,

I am not sure whether I should end up here, but I pass all the criteria for not being elsewhere, and I am sure one of you will point me elsewhere. So, thanks and apologies in advance and I make this longer in case it is easier for you to pass it on.

I am a reasonably experienced editor just grappling with template syntax, or transclusion syntax. I am a computer programmer of about 25 years so am reasonably happy with syntax, I just have made some stupid error somewhere I can' spot.

I have just started making a couple of templates: {{KSH2008}} in the Template space (yeah, I should have done it in user space but it was doing no harm there) which is useful in Hungarian infoboxes to reference Hungarian template data. I am now working on an "inherited" infobox at User:SimonTrew/Hungarian settlement and it is going quite nicely, but passing data on to {{KSH2008}} I cannot get it right. The relevant bit of the template is this:

|area_footnotes = {{#if:{{{ksh_code_2008|}}} |<ref name="KSH2008">{{KSH2008|{{{ksh_code_2008|}}} |{{{official_name|}}} }}

The aim of this is that, if ksh_code_2008 is given to the "Hungarian settlement" template, it passes it on to KSH2008 as the census code for the place, and creates a reference for it ({{KSH2008}} uses {{cite}}). (I appreciate that it is probably not good form to name a reference that then ends up named in the article editor's namespace, but that is not the point right now; several sections of the infobox use it but only one defines it, so unless an editor has the bloody-mindedness to call a reference KSH2008 all is well.)

But I cannot get {{Hungarian settlement}} to pass it on to {{KSH2008}}. I know it's coming through that code because I get something, i.e. what KSH2008 does without parameters, go to the main Hungarian census page. There is probably something very obviously wrong with this syntax but as far as I can tell by reading I have got it all right. What it does is that KSH2008 believes that ksh_code_2008 is blank, even though it cannot be to have passed the top #if, and I have put in test code to ensure it is not blank. If I replace the parameters with literal text, all is well. I am very puzzled as obviously I am doing something wrong and is probably very simple but I cannot understand what.

User:SimonTrew/Abony has an article which uses this template-in-embryo; the live page is in article space at Abony. Thanks and apologies once again for your help. SimonTrew (talk) 01:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Your problem is the closing:

|area_footnotes= {{#if:{{{ksh_code_2008|}}}|<ref name="KSH2008">{{KSH2008|{{{ksh_code_2008|}}}}}|{{{official_name|}}} }}

It should work with that. –túrian 01:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry but it does not. Or if it does, I am an idiot. I tried to copy it faithfully, then reformatted it to get the braces to match up to make sure they did, but it still does not work. Forgive me for being very stupid here. If you know how to make it work, if you looked at the links I gave you to spot the problem, could you please just edit it for me to do so? I don't expect an extensive test (that's my job!) but when I pasted that in, I think faithfully, it spewed on the template page i.e. I think you are one over. I am sure I will just go OOOOOOOOOOOH I should have seen that, when I find out what it is, but I suspect you either are incorrect or not making clear. But I do thank you all the same for helping! The accent on "Túrian" and the "patois" doesn't help when I have spent the last three days sorting out Hungarian and French articles!

My best wishes SimonTrew (talk) 02:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your time to help. 02:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

IRC

Whenever I click on any irc link on Misplaced Pages, nothing happens. Is anything supposed to? WHat does this mean, if nothing does? Intelligentsium 02:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, you need to have an IRC client, or it won't work. If you are using firefox, you can add the Chatzilla add-on, for example. WP:IRC gives full details. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 02:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

If you can't/don't want to install a client on your system, you can also access the Misplaced Pages IRC channels in your browser, at http://webchat.freenode.net/ or http://toolserver.org/~bjelleklang/pjirc/ . These require Java. ∙ AJCham 11:19, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

HEATING PAD

CAN U USE A HEATING PAD WITH METHODONE? I KNOW I CAN'T WITH THE FENTANYL PATCH

Medical advice removed.

I'm sorry, but Misplaced Pages does not give medical advice. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 06:07, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Unless Bugs meant arrest. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 06:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

In which case, Misplaced Pages does not give legal opinions :) Gonzonoir (talk) 08:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Does this constitute as vandalism?

I apologize if this question is in the wrong place as I'm unsure really where to ask this.. I'll mention just a little bit of history about the user to make this question make sense... there is a user on wikipedia who was banned from a fansite of a cartoon. They were permanently banned for harassing members. Three days after their ban from the fansite, they removed the link (an external link) to the fansite off of the article for the cartoon, claiming it was at the request of the fansite's owner (which the person they are referring to is not the owner). I very surely believe this to be in retaliation to their ban and thus, in my opinion, would constitute as an act of vandalism.

Am I wrong about if this is vandalism, or am I correct? And if I am correct, what should I do to go about preventing the user from doing it again? Again, I apologize if my question is in the wrong place, and if there are instructions for this somewhere on the site. I am very unfamiliar with the formatting of Misplaced Pages.

I will clarify any part of my message here further, if needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msfire (talk • contribs) 06:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I assume that you mean this diff on Sonic the Hedgehog (TV series). The removal in question was in this diff. As the editor in question appears to have only done this the one time, although it could count as vandalism, it was reverted by you (albeit belatedly) - a one-off piece of vandalism doesn't necessarily even need a warning, yet alone reporting. An editor's behaviour off-wikipedia has no effect on how we treat them on here - unless the user has vandalised multiple times on here, then we count them as a reliable editor. Should there be further instances of vandalism by the editor, they can be dealt with.

In summary: although this could be vandalism, there is insufficient evidence for this (the editor could have been making a good faith edit). This does not require reporting, especially not 40 days after the event. -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 07:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a link to a fansite's forum. I just re-removed it per WP:ELNO. Tim Song (talk) 07:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Steve, I understood what you meant, but I found your last sentence to be slightly ambiguous. "... unless the user has vandalised multiple times on here, then we count them as a reliable editor." I am sure you intended to say something like: "we count them as a reliable editor, unless they have vandalized multiple times on here". Regards, decltype (talk) 07:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• That is indeed what I meant to type, Decltype! Thanks for clarifying it -- PhantomSteve (Contact Me, My Contribs) 12:26, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I appreciate everyone's replies (and thank you for the edit of the signature on my first message, Phantomsteve!). And yes, that is the article. I do actually remember more content being on the page before talking about information about the boxset, in which the external link was in place as an official reference source to what was stated about the boxset, though I don't know how far back that was lost in the edits. But I am curious then...If both the external link is removed by the user and the link has to be placed back in repeatedly, it would be vandalism then on the part of the user who continually removes it? Or would that be evidence of it (and possibly after repeated instances of it something would or could be done)? I am a bit unclear on when in this instance it would be considered vandalism and therefore can have action of some kind taken.

And Tim Song, you raised a new question for me. If still, after all of that, that the external link that was removed is one that should not be there, should a few of the others not be there as well? As Saturday Morning Sonic is another fansite of the show. Though if material is referenced to the site within the article, I am unsure, as I did not check to see if there was any referenced material pointing to that website. Msfire (talk • contribs) 07:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

ELs are not supposed to be references, which are in a separate section and have their own policy - WP:RS. I removed the link because it was painfully apparent that it's a fansite; there are probably other inappropriate links, but I didn't have time to check. Tim Song (talk) 13:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you all for your replies. I have found this to be very helpful information and have learned something new in the process (I did not know about WP:ELNO until now!).Msfire (talk • contribs) 07:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Why can't I upload a new version of an image ?

A warning came out when I try to upload it. How can this problem be solved ? Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 08:39, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

• Upload warning

"A file with this name exists at the Wikimedia Commons. You can: go back and upload this file to Misplaced Pages using a different name. upload it to Commons, if your intent is to replace the image that already exists with a better version."

This happened to me when I tried to upload a new version of a cover for a single. I had to just upload it as a new image in the end. Spiderone 08:52, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The image I want to replace is a copyrighted logo, how can I upload it on commons ? Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 08:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Logos are presumed copyright and not accepted on Commons. A low resolution copy is acceptable on en.wiki if an appropriate Fair use statement can be made. Finavon (talk) 11:05, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I think Arteyu's saying that s/he's trying to replace a copyright logo with a non-copyright image? If that's the case, are you able to upload your image directly to Commons (rather than to WP) with the name you're trying via Commons:Upload? Gonzonoir (talk) 11:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

This is a recent software problem. It has been reported at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Image update problem and bugzilla:20677. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Unbroken Misplaced Pages Static HTML (English)

Is there somewhere in the archives a copy of the above which is downloadable? The later the better. 2008-06 is broken and I can't access 2008-03. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.194.221.231 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

http://static.wikipedia.org/downloads/2008-06/en/ - a 14GB compressed file which is going to take a while to download! Finavon (talk) 11:43, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Deleted my page, but...

Hi. I recently delete the page I was working on because for some reason it was posted before I was done with it (I'm sure it was somehow a mistake on my end). With that said, I would like to start it again and not have it post till it's finished. Two questions: 1) Is there any way to get the information back from the deleted page? and 2) what should I do to build my page and review it without posting it to the public. Thanks!— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwhip0908 (talk • contribs)

Only admins can delete anything. What page are you talking about? Zain Ebrahim (talk) 13:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

User:Mwhip0908/Hundred Hands Down was deleted by User:Jac16888 because you requested deletion by placing {{db-g7}} on the page. I have undeleted it (only administrators can do this) and removed {{db-g7}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The page is a user subpage which is the correct place to work on a draft before it becomes part of the encyclopedia. However, it is still visible to everyone at the Misplaced Pages site and userspace pages should not be in categories intended for articles so the categories were removed in . If you want to see which categories the draft is in without listing it in those categories then you can restore the categories but place a colon ':' before the category names like this: ]. That creates a link to Category:2000s music groups without placing the page in the category. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

People will usually not look at your userspace drafts when they are not in categories, but if you want the content to be invisible to others then you have to make a copy for offline work and request deletion again. You can then only check how it wil look in Misplaced Pages by copying the content into an edit box and use the "Show preview" button without saving. (If you have access to a non-public MediaWiki installation then you can also work on it there but templates and other things may give a different appearance from Misplaced Pages). PrimeHunter (talk) 13:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! I'll make a copy of my article offline and redelete the page.

If you want to run MediaWiki as your own Personal wiki for offline editing see mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick. --Teratornis (talk) 19:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Lost Contribution to AfD Discussion

Once I was happy with my contribution to an AfD discussion, I hit "save" and received an "edit conflict" message saying I could merge my text into that which was presented above, which I did. Turned out an admin had closed the discussion while I was still editing, and my "save" was immediately reverted by another user as having come in too late.

My comment/vote wouldn't have changed the outcome, but given that there were between 10 and 18 other AfD discussions initiated on the same day, and that some of them were older than "mine", shouldn't he have gone on to another one, and given me the chance to finish? It was very disappointing to lose two hours work - I wrote carefully, and commented at some length, and I write very slowly anyway.

I'm assuming, of course, that he would have seen the same "edit conflict" message, when he hit "save", that I saw myself. If that's not an accurate assumption, well, then nevermind. :-) Thanks, Ohiostandard (talk) 13:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It is not an accurate assumption. The first person to click "Save page" gets no indication that somebody else may have clicked edit (and possibly Show preview) without saving yet. Many people click edit without ever attempting to save (I often do this just to see the page source) so I don't think a warning system would be practical. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, then ... nevermind :-)

Btw, do you guys mark a question "resolved" or do I? Don't know how, if it's my responsibility. many thanks, Ohiostandard (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It is preferred that the original poster marks as resolved since others don't always know whether the poster is satisfied with the replies. I have marked as resolved. I got an edit conflict with you when trying to save the below but maybe it is still of interest so I save it anyway.

The AfD was 7 days old, the normal age to close AfD's, when you commented in and the outcome looked certain. I understand your frustration but I would not personally have spent a lot of time commenting on an AfD about to be closed with the result I wanted. When making a slow edit that may depend on intermediate edits by others (for example here at the help desk where somebody may reply before me), I sometimes check the page for new edits while investigating and writing my own reply. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:11, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I would not personally have spent a lot of time commenting on an AfD about to be closed with the result I wanted. Yes, that would have been silly if I'd known it was about to be closed. Only learned of the 7-day timeframe afterwards; had no idea of the timeframe. Thanks again. Ohiostandard (talk) 14:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

How do I add to an existing article please?

How do I add to an existing article please?

For example, in this existing Misplaced Pages article: 2.HMS Melampus was a fifth rate frigate built in 1785 and sold in 1815 after service in the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars., I wanted to add a picture of the ship and further detail.

I did log in, and tried to upload an edit, but nothing seems to have happened. Can you help please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwmarineart (talk • contribs)

When you go to a page, there's a tab named edit this page at the top. There are edit links next to each section as well. You can click either, change the text in the edit box that comes up, and save. It's basically the same way that you edited this page. You might want to take a look at Misplaced Pages:How to edit a page as well. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 14:19, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Regarding images, see Misplaced Pages:Images. Your quote is from HMS Melampus. That is an index page for ships and should not contain a lot of details. You can add details to the linked HMS Melampus (1785). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Template:Infobox GP2 round report

Hi, I have a little problem with this template: the question is easy :)

In this template, there are some items, like Round_No", "Pole_driver" and more. One GP2 round consists of two distinct races ("Feature Race" and "Sprint Race") except 2005, 2006 and 2007. In these three races, only "Feature" race was held.

Can you help me?

if Date_r2 then
    "Feature Race" and "Sprint Race"
else
    "Feature Race"

Examples:

• F and S race: 2007 Monaco GP2 round
• F race: 2008 Monaco GP2 round

Thanks and sorry for my bad english :) --Francesco Betti Sorbelli (talk) 14:08, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Twinkle

Twinkle is not working for me, I need help, Friendly is, but Twinkle isn't showing up! Why? Programmer101 (talk) 14:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Try asking for advice at Misplaced Pages talk:Twinkle. They're usually pretty helpful. hmwith☮ 14:36, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I even tried to importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js'); to my monobook, but is still not working!

Are you using Internet Explorer? ≈ Chamal  ¤ 14:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

No way! I use the holy Firefox! (I now that it doesn't work for IE) Nothing seems to work! Programmer101 (talk) 15:00, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

If I'm correct Twinkle doesn't work for "newish" users. - Kingpin (talk) 15:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Facepalm Ah... of course! You have to be autoconfirmed. Programmer101, you'll have to wait for four more days. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 15:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Correct - per WP:Twinkle, it only works if you are an autoconfirmed user - account has to be at least 4 days old with at least 10 edits. So, patience grasshopper... – ukexpat (talk) 15:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Check corruption

Please check if there's a virus connected with this picture. I've downloaded it successfully but every time I try to crop it the computer refuses to save the changes and serveral times I had to restart the computer. People who make a living selling pictures and photographs may feel threatened by Misplaced Pages and Wikimedia allowing people to get pictures free without breaking copyright and they may fight us by damaging pictures. I copied the detailed image from Wikimedia, I don't feel like restarting the computer yet again to see if this less detailed image is also corrupted. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:20, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The image seems to be fine, and works for me. I'm guessing your computer gets stuck since it's a large image; give it a few seconds and see. WP:RD/C might be a better place if you are looking for technical stuff on this. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 14:53, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I put it to 120px, no problem, what kind of computer do you have? Its probably you. Programmer101 (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I've now downloaded the less detailed version and cropped it without trouble, thanks. I have a Compaq laptop that cost about £400, it's intermediate in power and is just a year old. The picture looks fine on my desktop but isn't as detailed as I like. Proxima Centauri (talk) 15:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Lupin's Anti-Vandalism tool

First twinkle, now this! Doesn't work either! Programmer101 (talk) 15:22, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, It works for IE. Programmer101 (talk) 15:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Casual suggestions

I don't want to start a subpage. All I wanted to do was make the suggestion "Would somebody please add to the South Australian Wind Farms data a map of their sites." When I clicked on a link that looked as if I could (maybe) do that I got a page that started with "W~ does not have a subpage with the title '....blah...'. Before you create a subpage look at '...urk...' ".

In desperation I looked at "...urk..." and it is all too flaming complicated (truly urk).

Surely, for us drongos there could be a simple way for the average nit to make such a suggestion? Yes, I realise that I am asking for a basic change in the way that W~ does things but it should be beneficial. There must be many a user who would make a suggestion if there was a simple way to do it.

Please do not come back at me to say that I should create an account and add the data myself because that is the way W~ is structured. I know that but I don't want to because: (a) I would have to research it and that is what I came to W~ for in the first place. There must be people out there who know where they are without having to research. It might even be in a Gov. handout which somebody already has. (b) At 79 I no longer feel capable, my programming days were 40 years ago when many of you who will read this weren't even into three cornered pants.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.194.22 (talk • contribs)

The easiest way to suggest changes is on the talk page of the relevant article. – ukexpat (talk) 16:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Which I am going to guess is List of wind farms in South Australia? ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  16:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

If you want to add a locator map to an article, check out some examples in Wind power in Maine and Wind power in Ohio. These maps are great for any type of article about facilities in multiple locations. If you want to suggest an improvement to an article, see Help:Talk page and Misplaced Pages:Talk page guidelines. Note that I suggested adding a locator map in Talk:Cape Wind#Locator map but I didn't add it to the article proper yet because it would sort of conflict with another map already there. Adding locator maps to Misplaced Pages articles is not too difficult because some other users have already done the heavy lifting to create the templates: {{Location map start}}, {{Location map marker}}, and {{Location map end}}. The main job is to collect the coordinates for all the locations you want to put on the map. For wind farms, these should (eventually) be in the individual wind farm articles on Misplaced Pages. Don't sell yourself short, I'm sure plenty of 79 year old can figure this out. You don't need to create an account to edit Misplaced Pages. --Teratornis (talk) 18:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I put a sample locator map in Talk:List of wind farms in South Australia#Locator map to get the ball rolling. Most of the wind farm coordinates are already in the table in the article, so putting them into a locator map is nothing more than some grunt editing well within the capability of any drongo. Since there are so many wind farms, it might be necessary to create multiple locator maps for the operating and proposed wind farms, in case a single map gets too cluttered. --Teratornis (talk) 19:08, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

pictures

pictures don't show on my PC are thre any specific program I should have to see them? and thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.137.200.21 (talk • contribs) 18:12, 18 September 2009

It may be your browser settings.

• If you're using Firefox, go to Edit > Preferences > Content, and make sure that Load images automatically is checked.
• In IE, Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > Multimedia, and select Show pictures.

BTW, this Help Desk is really only supposed to be for help in using Misplaced Pages - in future, questions such as the above would be better suited for our Computing Reference Desk. ∙ AJCham 19:37, 18 September 2009 (UTC

If it's only pictures on Misplaced Pages and other Wikimedia sites that don't show then your browser may have a setting to exclude files stored at http://upload.wikimedia.org or to exclude images which are not stored on the same domain as the viewed page. Which browser is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Who is watching this article (and other questions)

Is there a way to see who is watching a specific article? The reason I ask is that I am thinking about starting a discussion on an article. How would this be advertised to others that are interested in this article? How would they know that I had started a discussion? Do I need to invite them specifically? How would I contact them to enter into the discussion? thanks GloverEpp (talk) 18:17, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

If you make an edit to either the article or the talk pages, anyone who is watching the page will find out on their own so there's no need to contact people. Those watching the article are those who will want to take part most. You can also contact whichever WikiProject(s) the article falls under to try and get other interested parties. People don't usually like mass-messages, so I'd recommend reading WP:CANVASS as well. ~ Amory (user • talk • contribs) 18:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

1. No. See Help:Watching pages.
2. Use the article's Talk page.
3. If they are watching the article, they will see on their watchlists that you edited its talk page.
4. Maybe.
5. If posting to the talk page doesn't get any replies, look at the article history to see who has edited the article, and you can leave messages on their user talk pages.
6. You're welcome.

--Teratornis (talk) 18:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

What is the page Mediawiki:Editwarning being used for?

What is the mediawiki page Mediawiki:Editwarning being used for? It contains only the two wording 'Edit warning', but it does exist, so must be being used for something..? I only ask because the creation of such a named page forms part of a proposal I've outlined. Obviously, I don't want to mess with the smooth running of the encyclopedia, so would altering this page have any effect? -- Anxietycello (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

It be there fer use wi' the EditWarning extension, an' that extension is not used on English Misplaced Pages. Yar!  Chzz  ►  00:59, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

visible wikitext

I'm not sure how to fix the formatting error at the top of Sodium hydroxide. Thanks. Mjpresson (talk) 21:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

What formatting error? Intelligentsium 22:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

The one Harej fixed. Algebraist 22:15, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

September 19

Unable to upload over images

I'm not sure if anybody else is having this problem, but I am unable to upload over images. I can upload new files perfectly, but am unable to upload new versions of files. The same thing happens at Commons. I didn't have this problem before the Wikimedia software update.

Here's a screenshot of what I'm talking about.  єmarsee  • Speak up! 02:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

There seems to be a problem with uploading images like that, as User:Killiondude kindly pointed out to me. There's a discussion about this at commons: Commons:Village_pump#Problem_with_uploading_a_new_version_over_an_old_one. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 03:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

The link should be commons:Commons:Village pump#Problem with uploading a new version over an old one. Misplaced Pages also has a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (technical)#Image update problem. According to bugzilla:20677 a fix has been made but not applied yet. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

How to user-override MediaWiki messages

Is there a way to replace a MediaWiki message with my own message? In particular, I would like to replace MediaWiki:Edittools with my own version. (Obviously, I have no interest in modifying the real thing; I just want my user to display a different edittools (presumably in some subpage of my user page), in the manner of Monobook.css. Di gama (talk) 03:17, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Edittools is the non-Javascript version. If you see the version with the dropdown box when you edit, then it is from MediaWiki:Edittools.js. ---— Gadget850 (Ed)  11:45, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

page deleted

The page I submitted was deleted, how do I konw what was wrong with it? It said (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion). I don't think it was advertising or promoting. who can tell me what part they thought was wrong??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amandamcarter (talk • contribs)

From the looks of the deleted article (as one of Misplaced Pages's admins, I have access to deleted articles), it looks like the primary purpose of the deleted article was to promote a florist shop. It described the products offered and the history of the florist shop to a detail that only an employee or associate of the shop would know, which would lead one to believe that the article was created by someone who was such an employee or associate; as such, it seems that someone who is too closely associated with the shop has created the article (see WP:COI), and such a person would be using Misplaced Pages to promote their shop. Additionally, there is no evidence that the article would even come close to meeting Misplaced Pages's inclusion criteria (See WP:N), so it does appear that the article was deleted within policy (see WP:DELETE). --Jayron32 05:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) It did indeed read as fairly blatant advertising stumping for the store. The text read very much as a brochure or website for the company might, listing incentive programs, why it's great and so on and, lo and behold, it is the text from website of the company. As such it was also properly deleted as a blatant copyright infringement of under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion as that external page is clearly marked as copyrighted. If you are the owner of the website you would have to release your copyright under a free license for us to even use this material (see Misplaced Pages:Donating copyrighted materials). The article additionally does little to set forth the notability of the company, which, even if you fix the tone and copyright infringement problems, is a hurdle you would have to pass.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:54, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

no onscreen images in articles

as of 3 days ago, all wikipedia articles come up onscreen with no images on this desktop computer. no settings were changed. how do i get back the images ? Mckinley99 (talk) 11:32, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Which browser do you have? Many Firefox users have accidentally right clicked an image and clicked "block images from this server". The image server for Misplaced Pages is http://upload.wikimedia.org. Check if it's in a list of blocked sites. In Firefox it may be something like: Tools > Options - Content - Load images automatically - Exceptions. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:58, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

How to...

I've noticed the super bowl logo wikipedia has is the wrong logo. On the super bowl 44 website the logo is different. The football between the field goal thing on wikipedia has the middle line of the football going all the way down while on the website the line doesn't go all the way down. also the logo should be darker. Here is the logo with the white background:

File:Superbowl44.jpg

Sedna10387 11:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

That logo looks the same as the logo displayed on http://www.superbowl44.com. Any differences, if they even exist, are incredibly trivial and it's probably not worth another upload. I think any differences you are seeing is because the currently uploaded logo is of much higher resolution than the one on the website. (Also, I don't think fair use images can be displayed in non-article-space, so I changed the thumbnail into a link.) Xenon54 / talk / 12:09, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure which super bowl 44 website you refer to but the big image at http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/44 is http://static.nfl.com/static/site/img/superbowl/44/logo-bottom.png and looks the same to me. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

But you have to look at the football! It's a different football. See:

Image:Super Bowl XLIV logo.svg (Misplaced Pages's logo) Image:Superbowl44.jpg (Newer version)

Sedna10387 16:12, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

OK, this time you actually linked to what you call the wrong logo and I see the difference. But it's a small difference, a Google image search indicates many sites use the same version as Misplaced Pages (I don't know the origin of that version), and your jpg version has lower image quality than the svg version (jpg is designed for photos and often give poor quality for drawings). By the way, your signature should link to your user page or user talk page. The easiest way to achieve that is to leave a blank Signature field at Special:Preferences and uncheck "Sign my name exactly as shown". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:24, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Unable to delete and erroneous wikiproverbs entry

On this page http://www.wikiproverbs.com/index.php/La_fin_justifie_les_moyens. the first translation of the proverb in Polish is incorrect, only the 2nd one should stay (Cel uświęca środki.), but no matter what I do, still both versions remain, I can't remove the incorrect one. Could you point me to the right solution? Thanks in advance.

This is Misplaced Pages, the free encyclopaedia. We are not related to and have no control over Wikiproverbs, so please take your question there. A wiki is a type of website that anyone can change, and there are thousands of them throughout the internet. Please recognise that while Misplaced Pages is probably the most popular wiki, it is not affiliated with and does not main control over every other wiki. Xenon54 / talk / 12:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Your link ends with a period so it requires special formatting to work. http://www.wikiproverbs.com/index.php/La_fin_justifie_les_moyens. works. This help desk is only for Misplaced Pages (and in some cases other Wikimedia sites). Wikiproverbs is not a Wikimedia site and I don't know how they operate. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:18, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

cannot open page

Sometimes, not often, when I enter a subject and click on the arrow it goes nowhere. A box comes up which says.....Unknown file type 17.7 KB. Mime Type: application/X-gzip compressed.

I don't understand why this happens or what can be done to stop it. Do you? Regards, Lee16:55, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

You'll have to elaborate...

• What arrow? Misplaced Pages's search box has a "Go" button. Please note that this page is for questions about using Misplaced Pages. General computer troubleshooting questions should go to the Computing reference desk.
• If the problem is with a Misplaced Pages article, then please tell us which one it is.
• If you use Internet Explorer, then I think this is a known issue, but there isn't a fix yet. Xenon54 / talk / 17:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

"Ignore" function

I know why there would not be such a function in respect of articles and their talk pages. However, is it possible to "ignore" specific users' contributions when they appear on a page one has watchlisted? Thus, can I watchlist, say, WP:Reference desk/Humanities but not have contributions by, say, User:Whackamole appear on my watchlist? // BL \\ (talk) 17:24, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

No, that is not possible. The only options available to you are shown above the watchlist, i.e show/hide logged in users, anons, bots, your own edits, minor edits. ≈ Chamal  ¤ 17:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Why would you want to ignore somebody's edits? If you are referring to ignoring your own edits, there is a option for that. warrior4321 21:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

You could make a request at WP:US/R for someone to make a user script with this functionality for you. decltype (talk) 21:40, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Trubar in Slovene

There is a detailed article about Primoz Trubar in the Slovene language (and of course articles abot him in English and other languages). In am the international coordinator for the Trubar Forum, www.primoztrubar.si, a non-profit organizaion committed to translating Trubar into modern Slovene and other languages. Last year I had made some changes, additions, to reflect the publication of his works in modern Slovene for the first time on the Slovene language page - http://sl.wikipedia.org/Primo%C5%BE_Trubar. They were there for a while, but then disappeared (they remain on he English language page - http://en.wikipedia.org/Primo%C5%BE_Trubar).

Ever since then this notice comes up when I try to edit:

Nimate dovoljenja za urejanje te strani, zaradi naslednjega razloga: Ta stran je bila zaklenjena za preprečitev urejanja. Lahko si ogledujete in kopirate vsebino te stran:

Rough translation: You don't have permission to edit this page, because of the following reason: This page has been locked for verification of editing. You can look at and copy the content of this page.

Now the Trubar Forum is publishing the first Slovene book, Trubar's 1550 Catechism, and of course this historic fact should be known. But I can't even add in our website.

Who has control over this page? How has the authority to lock or unlock it? Was there some complaint? Am I the only one locked out? In the page history, I can see several people have access to making changes to it. On behalf of the Trubar Forum, I ask that we be given access to this page, to adding information about them modernization of Trubar's works.

Thank you, Todd Hunnicutt

It means that it was locked because IPs tried to vandalise it. If you leave a message on the talk page, detailing what you want to add, someone with the ability to edit should come along and add it in. Otherwise, you can message an administrator on that wiki and ask them to edit it for you.

As to it being changed in the first place - are you sure your edits weren't promotional or uncyclopedic? Thay will be removed if they sound inapropriate for an encyclopedia. Cheers, Cureden 19:14, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict)You should probably ask at the Slovenian Misplaced Pages. If it is anything like en.wiki, my guess is that the page has been protected, probably due to vandalism. Intelligentsium 19:16, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

For movie experts

Movie experts, an editor asked for help here about this page. I don't feel qualified to respond, so I hope someone could pop over there.--SPhilbrickT 19:21, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm hardly a "movie expert", but I spotted a few things in the article that could be improved. And there's still more if anyone feels up to it :) decltype (talk) 19:43, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

How can the title of an article be corrected?

I have contributed to the page about the New York band called Certain General, but the title of the article as it was originally written has the "G" lowercase: Certain general. As a result, links from other wiki pages do not work. How can I fix this on the Certain General page?—Preceding unsigned comment added by BP2727 (talk • contribs)

The page had to be moved to a new title, which I have done. You couldn't so this yourself as your account is not yet autoconfirmed, which requires it to be over four days old and having made a threshold of ten edits. Note also that where a title is at one proper name which doesnlt need to be changes but there exist other names for the subject that are likely to be used in searches (including plausible typos), you can create redirects so that those alternate name searches will also reach the correct article. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:15, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

September 20

Clipping a video part 2

On September 14, I asked for assistance in clipping a video (See Misplaced Pages:Help_desk/Archives/2009_September_14#Clipping_a_video). This is because at Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Crown Fountain/archive4, we have been instructed to cut the main image (File:Crown fountain spouting.ogg), which is a 50 second video, down to 10 seconds. The FAC now has three supports and seems destined to be promoted if I can get some assistance clipping the video or figure out how to do it myself. My co-author, Torsodog thought he would be able to clip the video last week, but has been unable to do so. Seddon had thought he would be able to do so by 0:00 UTC (about 4 hours ago) but has not done so. I have contacted a lot of people who do work with .ogg files, but Shoemaker's Holiday mentioned that there are multiple formats and that he does not have experience with the video format. It seems that very few people have any experience editing these videos. I have attempted to follow the instruction at Commons:Help:Converting video that Teratornis pointed me to in the prior help desk request. However, I am having difficulty and it appears that we are going to have to remove the video altogether and replace it with still imagery. More specifically, I have downloaded ffmpeg2theora-0.24.exe, but it will not install on my computer. I have tried vlc-1.0.1-win32 and mediacoder_8731 installer files and neither seems capable of editing the file. I am at a loss and don't want to revert to images. I am therefore, requesting further assistance if anyone knows how to edit video .ogg files or knows of software that I can download to do so myself that would be great.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 04:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

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