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I admire your resolve, but like my dad used to ask, "Is this the hill you want to die on?" (not his original, but that's not the point.)

The point is that there is a lot more that you can do to contribute without getting yourself blocked. Anyway, take my advice or leave it. I just hope you consider it. --Elliskev 00:43, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

That's good to hear. New start? Godspeed. --Elliskev 00:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Stop creating POV forks on religion themed articles

Thanks--Aolanonawanabe 01:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Whoa! That's fast!

Thanks for the welcome. I hadn't even been logged in for 5 minutes! -- Megamix 01:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcoming

I think it's a wonderful thing. It certainly isn't spamming. Carry on :-) --HappyCamper 01:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. It's certainly not spamming. A lot of Wikipedians do it. I do it myself. One thing I'm careful to do is to check the contributions of the new user just to make sure that he or she is a genuine editor and not a vandal. AnnH 02:05, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Funny

I was accused of being a sockpuppet. Hopefully that guy'll stop stalking you though. He is correct in that your articles seem to be a bit short (though that doesn't excuse his snide remarks)... try making them more complete. JG of Borg 03:41, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Make sure you do, otherwise you're just giving him ammo, with good reason. Have fun! JG of Borg 03:47, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Images

Image:PLL.gif Image:PLI.gif were uploaded to use in the table for that quote. The quote was deleted. It's not really proper to do things that way and they are not fair use in that case. Fair use is only acceptable in some articles and that would not constitute. May I delete them? We can't assume it's GFDL if you got it from the BBC (and you would need to show where from the BBS) gren グレン 04:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Welcome New Users

Thanks for welcoming the newcomers! Just one thing to take not of is whether or not they have contributed something before you add to their talk page. I see the template you use states, "thank you for your contributions". Maybe replace that line with something else. Thanks! mdmanser 04:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Pro-Life Alliance

Thanks for your message. Although I am not a Roman Catholic (I am actually a Polytheist, but having a lot of respect for His Holiness the Pope Benedict XVI), :o) I just gave my opinion in Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Pro-Life Alliance, only with a few words... Hégésippe | ±Θ± 10:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Catholic Science Fiction

Hi, Chooserr, you might be interested in this link I'm compiling at my blog:Catholicism in Science Fiction Speculative catholic 03:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Curps

My IP (71.129.72.3) has been blocked. I'm not sure why and would like it unblocked for to the best of my knowledge I haven't done anything wrong lately. Thank you, Chooserr

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Stop spamming the Recent Pages page. Take it to the mailing list. User:Zoe| 05:37, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

if you DO NOT STOP, your block will be extended. User:Zoe| 06:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I've unprotected your page. If you continue, you will be blocked for a week and the page reprotected. User:Zoe| 06:26, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Block

We had a couple of disruptive users/vandals just minutes before you that were rapidly adding a flurry of welcome messages to new user pages and were using that to disguise some bad edits (bogus "you've been blocked messages" etc). See Polysciwantacracker (talk · contribs) and You got that right mister (talk · contribs). I saw an anon IP doing the same thing, and what's more it was signing its edits with your username, and so I believed it was part of the same trend. Sorry if you were blocked in error, but perhaps you could have done those edits under your username if you chose to sign them with your username. By the way, we're getting many thousands of new users every day, far too many to send welcome messages to them all, and many of which never make any contributions at all... so I'm not sure if it serves much purpose to do large numbers of welcome messages to users registered minutes earlier who haven't made their first edit yet. -- Curps 06:44, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps, Curps, you could stop making irrational decisions. It never hurts to welcome people. It hurts the community a lot to punish people who are doing no wrong, then blame them for doing what they think is right to cover up your mistake. --24.221.8.253 06:51, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

The block was reasonable. There is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Chooserr again, you can post your opinions there if you wish. -- Curps 07:10, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Stop putting bogus block messages on other people's Talk pages User:Zoe| 07:29, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I see warnings. I don't see blocks. Nothing wrong with warnings. --24.221.8.253 07:31, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

The current discussion on WP:AN/I demonstrates that you are mistaken. Nandesuka 07:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

12 hour block

I have blocked you for 12 hours because you don't seem to understand that spamming is wrong. I suggest you take this time to reflect on your actions and how you can avoid similar situations in the future. Nandesuka 07:31, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Nandesuka,

You just want to get my goat...I won't let you have it...I don't care for your twelve hour block. And I do know what spamm is (I've removed it before). I'm not sure if you've ever been blocked but if you have then you'd understand. I love sharing information and unfair blocks shouldn't be imposed on me.

For the record though I do think it is kind of funny in the back part of my mind that if curps hadn't blocked me, that I'd have help further wikipedia And probably have been off hours ago. Chooserr

(I was going to add this to help people understand my Ina template before I was blocked)

My "Bogus Block Messages"

My block messges weren't bogus...they were simply a template I invented to help block users whose names I felt were inappropriate for wikipedia...this would have included a Nazi one I saw a few days ago if I'd made the template...and any others including the Curps names (which were blocked just before I started using it). If I couldn't block I wanted to make sure that these names didn't just fold into the fabric of wikipedia due to oversight. Chooserr

"The devil made me do it" was a common comedic catchphrase popularized by Flip Wilson and is not an inappropriate username. "The devil made me do IT" (information technology) is a pun on the original phrase, and again not an inappropriate username. Posting your bogus block message to that user's talk page caused confusion, and I removed that message at about the same time that I blocked the anon IP address you were using. -- Curps 07:46, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Users who Should be blocked

• User:CURPS VS THE FUCKING FUCK BOTS!
• User:OFFICER CURPSKY YOU'RE TATOR TOTS
• User:Porn-observer
• User:COMMUNISTISMS ON WHEEELS (only kidding)
• User:Legitimate user name (ANAL SEX WITH TATOR TOTS)
• User:PENIS TEH LOLZERS GO TATOR TOTS
• User:Kharbear (ANAL SEX WITH TATOR TOTS)
• User:Fetal Tissue tastes funny
• User:CURPS YOU STUPID FUCKING FUCK BOT
• User:COMMUNISTISMS I SAY! COMUNISTISMS!
• User:FUCK BOTS GALLORRRRRR IT"S TEH CURPSISODE
• User:FUCKING FUCK BOTSGET TO GO ON A FEILD DAY
• User:TATOR TOT SEX WITH ANAL CURPS!@

Thanks for collecting these. The right response for a non-admin would be to post these to WP:VIP or WP:AN/I (I'm always responsive to posts to my talk pages, so you could try there too). You'll be back in a bit, so don't worry. See you tomorrow. -Mysekurity 08:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Before posting these, check at Special:Log/block to see whether they've already been blocked. I believe all of the above (except possibly Porn-observer) have been blocked. -- Curps 08:04, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I actually agree with Chooserr about possibly blocking some of these users: their horrific misspelling of "tater tots" is indeed unforgiveable. Nandesuka 08:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Wow, now can I be unblocked? Afterall I didn't cuss at you...you were just being fussy and abusing your power. Chooserr

LOL, an IMPOSTOR of Curps. "The devil made me do IT" (This user has been Identified as an impostor of the Devil look at wikipedia policy for further information). Chooserr

What are you referring to? Those accounts listed above can hardly be considered true impostors, since they're merely intended to be annoying and not to actually fool anyone. -- Curps 09:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Can I be unblocked

???????????? Chooserr

"unrepentant about doing so" that is the reason why I've been blocked........?????? If I said "I'm sorry" you would have said okay? That's the stupidest reason for blocking I've ever seen! And in your message to me you said, if you do it again.............Chooserr

RFC: Curps, Zoe, Mysekurity, Nandesuka, vs myself and Chooserr

When you are unblocked, you're invited to go look at Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_comment/User_conduct#Use_of_administrator_privileges to certify that there is, indeed, a major problem with this mess and that, for what it can be trusted to accomplish, the community needs to get involved. --24.221.8.253 08:22, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for your helpful comments 24.221.8.253......not that they are doing much good to get me out of the pound. But atleast there is one person on my side. Chooserr

User:24.221.8.253: you ought to make a user account......we need more users like you in the future :D. Chooserr

From Ann (Musical Linguist)

Hi, Chooserr. I got your message this morning just before I left for work. I am now in the staff room at the computer (which I don't normally use) before beginning work again in the next few minutes, so this will have to be brief.

I think you would have been wise to respect the majority decision about the dates. While I personally prefer A.D. and B.C., it is not, in my view, a battle worth fighting. Certainly it doesn't contradict Christianity to use the other format. After all, we name the days of the week after Roman and Norse gods. I was therefore a little concerned to see a message you sent to someone's talk page asking was there a Catholic administrator who could block someone who was changing the format to C.E. I think if you look at my Babel templates, you'll realize that I am an obedient Catholic, but I still respect the Misplaced Pages rules about 3RR etc. I have found it possible to do a lot of good on Misplaced Pages by staying within policy and not putting people's backs up unnecessarily. If I block people, it will be for breaking Misplaced Pages rules, even if I sympathize with their views. I revert vandalism to the abortion article, whether the vandal says that abortion is "cool" or that it's the murder of a baby.

It does seem that you've had a rather rough time since joining Misplaced Pages, and I'm sorry about that. We have a policy of not biting newcomers. At the time that I sent my recent message saying that welcoming newcomers was fine, I was concerned that you were being harassed by User:Aolanonawanabe. His frequent posts on your page, complaining that you were spamming new users, when you were in fact sending them a standard welcome message, plus his tagging as a speedy delete something which you had created which was obviously not a candidate for speedy deletion, suggested that he was tracking your contributions.

However, I have not looked at your recent contributions; there are too many for me to examine, and I would strongly suggest that you do not continue to welcome new users at the rate that you were doing it at. I don't know what was in those messages, so I can't comment, but it seems that others have objected as well. Certainly you should not have been sending messages The Devil made me do it (or whatever the name is) threatening a block. While I don't care for that name, I doubt if many administrators would block for it.

Please do not consider filing an RfC agasinst anyone. RfCs that are hastily filed, tend to bounce back on those who filed them, and you have, in my view, been too controversial to get much support. Also, you have to show evidence that two different people tried and failed to resolve the same dispute. I suggest that for a while you try some non-controverial editing, at least until you're a bit more familiar with our policies.

I can't possibly consider unblocking you, because your contributions are so numerous that I wouldn't be able to go through them and make a judgment about how fair the block was. In any case, I wouldn't unblock without discussing it with the unblocking admin first. Sorry. AnnH 14:27, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

RFC

Guy, if you want to file an RFC, actually file an RFC instead of clogging up the main RFC with your ramblings. Do so soon, because your ramblings will be deleted. --Calton | Talk 23:50, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Your images

I note you have been uploading a great number of images with ambiguous or meaningless comments such as "GNU?" or "does not violate any licenses" or "no copyright visible". Please be advised that there is no such copyright license as "GNU" (GNU is an operating system), that the lack of a copyright notice does not mean a work is not under copyright, and that whether or not something violates a license or a copyright depends on how it is used. You should probably educate yourself more on copyright law and Misplaced Pages's copyright policies before uploading or editing any more images. You are creating a lot of work for your fellow editors who have to delete your illegal images or classify them under an appropriate usage license. —Psychonaut 15:49, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Cookies for you!

• Cookies 'cause I bumped into some of your "Welcomes" to new users while I was welcoming...isn't that fun? ViolinGirl

reverting Sialk

Chooserr, hi.

Please be careful when reverting. When you were reverting my date format edits, you also undid other wikifying that I was doing. Basic etiquette would dictate that you not steamroll unrelated edits when several have been made. Rather than reverting your revert, which would be silly, I'm going back and redoing the particular edits that aren't related to date format. Please be careful about this in the future.

I made the date format consistent in the Sialk article; I don't care whether it says BC or BCE, but it should be consistent all the way through. Since both were present in the article, I standardized to the one that makes sense to me for the context - namely, archaeology of a non-Christian culture, with no reference to Christianity. Like I said though, I don't care whether it says BC or BCE, just please manage to change all occurrences of the abbreviation, if you really must change any of them. -GTBacchus 00:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

While we're talking, I wonder, what do you think of the rewrites I've done at War on Christmas? I'm trying to make a version that's informative and clear, and doesn't misrepresent either side of the controversy, but I realize that I myself am not entirely unbiased - how do you think it's looking? -GTBacchus 00:28, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Actually, the reason I put "war on Christmas" in quotes in the article is because its very existence seems to be disputed. It's a problem, writing about any conspiracy theory - one can, simply by using certain terms, concede certain points of view. It's just Propaganda 101, really. Alternatives to scare-quotes include referring to it as the putative war on Christmas, the alleged war on Christmas, or the so-called war on Christmas. I have no desire to be PC, only accurate. Thanks for your feedback, anyway. -GTBacchus 00:43, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

My mistake, then. See you around. -GTBacchus 00:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ethnick

In Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Ethnick, I reviewed the references that Psychonaut provided, and I agreed with them. However, I have no history with you or with Psychonaut, so perhaps I shouldn't have used that language. I still feel that the article should be deleted, but I have now struck my previous verbiage and changed it to WP:NOT. --rogerd 06:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

This type of censorship makes me sick

Vote to keep, show these hypocrites what's what, tolerance? ha, only when it's good for them--Diatrobica;l 23:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

War on Christmas

Chooserr, did you see the section I wrote just for you at Talk:War on Christmas? Please read my explanation, rather than revert the article without discussion. Let's work together, ok? -GTBacchus 23:33, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Pro-life celebrities category up for deletion!

Hi, I see that you are listed as a Pro-Life Wikipedian, well the Pro-life celebrities category is up for deletion. Category:Pro-life celebrities The abortion zealots don't want anyone to think that any celebrity is actually pro-life. Dwain 23:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)