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| ::I am the Chief Operating Officer of Flying Elephants Productions, the company that produces Ashes and Snow. I am new to using Misplaced Pages and did not understand that we should not include so many reviews. So I will remove a good number of them. I made one attempt to remove the Roberta Smith New York Times review because it contains a number of factual inaccuracies, including how the show was funded and who was responsible for the interior design. While very, very few completely negative reviews have appeared, I will gladly post a more constructively critical article. With hundreds of raves, such a spiteful review seems to unfairly skew the section. I hope this resolves the dispute!˜˜˜˜ <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ::I am the Chief Operating Officer of Flying Elephants Productions, the company that produces Ashes and Snow. I am new to using Misplaced Pages and did not understand that we should not include so many reviews. So I will remove a good number of them. I made one attempt to remove the Roberta Smith New York Times review because it contains a number of factual inaccuracies, including how the show was funded and who was responsible for the interior design. While very, very few completely negative reviews have appeared, I will gladly post a more constructively critical article. With hundreds of raves, such a spiteful review seems to unfairly skew the section. I hope this resolves the dispute!˜˜˜˜ <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | ||
| ::Further to the note above, can anyone explain to me how to go back and remove some of the reviews and insert others that might provide more balance? ] (]) 22:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Unbalanced "Reviews" section
Scanning this article's history, there seems to have been some struggle between those on one side who are concerned with maintaining the article's balance/objectivity/NPOV, and on the other side one or more users who have added lots and lots of positive excerpts from reviews of the exhibit (and most recently, are deleting negative reviews).
WP:NPOV states: "Some Misplaced Pages articles about art, artists, and other creative topics have tended toward the effusive. This is out of place in an encyclopedia."
I question whether this article really needs the "Reviews" section.
However, if it is to have one, the section ought to have some balance among the chosen quotes. Obviously critics' reaction to this installation have not been universally positive; the New York Times' review is positively scathing.
Those are my thoughts... anyone else? AtticusX (talk) 18:05, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- I think a Critical Reception section is appropriate, but it should be culled back to a few reviews that represent the general tone and comments both positive and negative ... suggest perhaps recutting the section as prose rather than a long list of quotes as well. cheers, --guyzero | talk 18:15, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
- OK, I'd agree with that. Problem is, as you've seen, the main contributors to this page (or contributor plus sock puppets) keep deleting negative reviews! -- or rather, now that there's only one negative review left in this article, they keep trying to delete THE negative review. Somebody is being crazy protective of the Ashes and Snow brand image, and is willing to violate Misplaced Pages rules to get their way.
- One excuse given for the NYT quote's deletion was that it was redundant -- heh, nice try -- and now it's allegedly because the reviewer was racist. (That one made me LOL.) An ironic claim, as the NYT reviewer found the exhibit offensive partly because she perceived in it a "colonial" attitude. BTW, the "cultural tourism" thread seems to be a fairly important aspect of the NYT review's criticism that is currently omitted from the excerpts included here.
- Anyway, yes, the sprawling gush that dominates the "Reviews" section is inappropriate, and I encourage anyone with condensing skills to tackle the monster. But beware of possible sock puppet censors with a conflict of interest. AtticusX (talk) 21:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
- Hopefully the folks who are so concerned about this single negative review will back off it so we can spend some time to actually make this article better. --guyzero | talk 05:56, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am the Chief Operating Officer of Flying Elephants Productions, the company that produces Ashes and Snow. I am new to using Misplaced Pages and did not understand that we should not include so many reviews. So I will remove a good number of them. I made one attempt to remove the Roberta Smith New York Times review because it contains a number of factual inaccuracies, including how the show was funded and who was responsible for the interior design. While very, very few completely negative reviews have appeared, I will gladly post a more constructively critical article. With hundreds of raves, such a spiteful review seems to unfairly skew the section. I hope this resolves the dispute!˜˜˜˜ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redpenciledit (talk • contribs) 22:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
- Further to the note above, can anyone explain to me how to go back and remove some of the reviews and insert others that might provide more balance? Redpenciledit (talk) 22:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)