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Speedy deletion nomination of Jarrett Brown

A tag has been placed on Jarrett Brown, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a repost of material that was previously deleted following a deletion debate, such as at articles for deletion. Under the specified criteria, where an article has substantially identical content to that of an article deleted after debate, and any changes in the content do not address the reasons for which the material was previously deleted, it may be deleted at any time.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Blueboy96 22:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

If you want to dispute the deletion of this article do it the right way. Use {{hangon}} just after the {{db-repost}} such as I had done for you (before you remove it and attracted more bad attention to the artilce). This says you disagree. Then explain why on the talk page. Just removing the db-repost from the article usually does not help keep the article, especially after someone has noticed you have removed it. If it does not meet the criteria, say why. Duffbeerforme (talk) 16:42, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

NFL infobox

Hey I was wondering if you were aware of the NFL infobox situation where Gary King keeps on changing the infobox. Apparently he had a discussion with one person which makes him think that it is ok to change it. I also believe that his so called "upgrade" is complete garabage and I hope you feel the same way. Thanks --Phbasketball6 (talk) 03:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

To me, the infobox upgrade looks fine and the code is massively easier to read.--Giants27 (c|s) 12:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Salaries

Are we allowed to put the salaries of NFL Players in the Infoboxes. --Saffi2k7 (talk) 02:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Edit warring on Chris Davis (baseball)

Per my message at the edit warring report here, both you and Ethelh need to stop reverting one another without discussion. No further edits should be made to the article until one of you starts a discussion at the article's talk page to work out a consensus over what to include; if you two can't agree with each other you can seek extra input at Misplaced Pages:Third opinion or Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Baseball. Continuing to revert one another without trying to have a discussion, though, is unacceptable.

If either one of you starts reverting again without discussing things, the article could be protected, or either or both of you could be blocked. rʨanaɢ /_contribs 18:33, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi. As I indicated before on this page at , which discussion you deleted without response and perhaps for that reason was missed by Rjanag the inline references are appropriate, support the text, and comport with Misplaced Pages guidelines. I will discuss this in greater detail on the talk page to the article.--Ethelh (talk) 19:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Responsive

Oh sorry, I forget that you feel untouchable and perfect.........and your FYI will be reported too--Zta ♠talk♠ July 21 2009 ♠Nastia

why?????????????????????????????????????????????????--Zta ♠talk♠ July 21 2009 ♠Nastia ♥

Why my opinion made no sense???? ´cause i´d tell your truth???--Zta ♠talk♠ July 21 2009 ♠Nastia '♥

Ok--Zta ♠talk♠ July 21 2009 ♠Nastia '♥

Rickey Henderson

Rickey Henderson played all three outfield positions. If you undo edits I've done, please have your facts straight. "Outfielder" is the best, most inclusive term for him.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 02:11, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

RE:infobox

I'm not sure, but I assume so. I don't really know what the change is to the baseball bio infobox that makes it resize like that, since it looks like it was adapted from the MLB infobox anyways. I can look around and see if I can change something to fix it, but I'm not great with infobox editing, are you? --Torsodog 15:15, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Ok, it looks like I was able to make the boxes the same exact size. Let me know what you think, and I guess we'll see if I pissed anyone else off with the change lol. Maybe they had a legitimate reason for making it smaller? And ya, stats are tricky. What I've been doing so far is if the player is retired, I use the stats for which they are more well known for (if they are equally well-known, I combine the stats from both leagues for "career stats". If they are active, I've just been using the stats for the league they are currently playing for. --Torsodog 15:27, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Pete Rose

I read Rose's site, and think it needs some cleaning up. One item I felt needed cleaning up was the section of career accomplishments. It was always my understanding that random lists of that nature are supposed to be avoided, which is why I added them to the infobox.

I agree with your opinion that the infobox was a bit long and pointed that out in Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Baseball. You'll also note that I knew that you would behave like your usual pesky little gnat self. Call it foreshadowing.

In any case, I'd like to continue cleaning up Rose's site, but it becomes less and less possible if you continue acting like... well... you.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 20:37, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Would you mind joining the discussion abot this infobox at WT:MLB? I'd like to see if we could generate some consensus for abbreviating when we have a glut of positions. Thanks! KV5 (Talk • Phils) 17:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm continuing my efforts to clean up Rose's entry; the section on the Phillies was terrible. I'm trying to work the significant cultural references into the article for now. I'm also looking to remove some of the redundant statements and streamline it a little. For one, I would like to combine the part about his "Charlie Hustle" nickname and Whitey Ford nicknaming him "Charlie Hustle." That seems a little redundant to me. Anyway, if you feel like working with me instead of against me, be my guest.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 12:41, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

MLB infobox

What do you mean, "consistant with other infoboxes"? I've never seen it used this way; I've always seen the other user infoboxes say ], without the word "record".

Anyway, this doesn't make any sense to me, since we have an article for Win (baseball) and Loss (baseball). Why not link to both of them? Ksy92003 (talk) 17:18, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Check out pretty much every retired player:Nolan Ryan, Steve Carlton, Greg Maddux, etc.--Yankees10 17:23, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

{{MLB awards}}

Hopefully as fellow Yankees fans we can stop this edit warring before we violate WP:3RR! :) I could perhaps understand the inclusion of the LCS awards (though they are significantly less notable than the WS MVP award), but the DHL award is just silly. It's a 3 year old duplicate of a much longer-existing award (the Rolaids Relief award) plus a monthly award (and things like Pitcher of the Month are explicitly not included for being a lower-level award). Regardless my original removal of those two awards was mentioned early on at Wikiproject Baseball in the discussion of an eventual Featured Topic. However, to focus discussion more closely on the topic I'll post a specific subsection on it right now. Staxringold _talk 16:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

• And here is that discussion. Staxringold _talk 16:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Alt

Hi. I reverted your removal of the alt= on Dave Stieb as it is useful an in compliance with the manual of style per Misplaced Pages:Alternative text for images. Regards. -- Whpq (talk) 23:44, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Gary Matthews

So, what do you consider to be the basics? -- Richjenkins (talk) 16:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Just wondering...

Have you ever done a constructive edit in your life?--Johnny Spasm (talk) 19:29, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

You moved the box to where it was invisible. Even if I put it in the wrong place, it's visible. Don't you ever double check your work. Obviously not. do Misplaced Pages a favor. Stop.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 19:38, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Please stop unconstructive edit warring...

...and discuss on Talk:Pete Rose. This is not helping anybody. Don't wait for someone else to discuss; just do it. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 20:22, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pete Rose. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:56, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Marc Dile

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Marc Dile. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Demar Dotson

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Demar Dotson. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:17, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Jonathan Compas

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Ashlee Palmer

Hi! It seems you recently created an unreferenced biography of a living person: Ashlee Palmer. Our verifiability policy requires that all content be cited to a reliable source. Please add references as soon as possible. Thanks! --LaraBot (talk) 00:18, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Subject for debate

I added a comment to Rose's talk page that I think also needs to be debated. I've specified that Rose was a 17 time NL All-star, and you've changed that. I posted my reasoning and argument for that on his talk page. My sense of fair play dictates to me that I should point this out to you and allow for counter argument. I also think that you should read my reasoning for specifying and consider the validity of this argument.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 13:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Stearns

I know what I do and don't own in this world. Thanks for th eopinion, though. It seems like you are projecting your own personality traits upon me. I looked at your contributions; you get into edit wars constantly and seem to live only to do the silly little nonsense that you have been doing on Stearns' page. Why would you remove the fact that he set the stolen base record for catchers out of the highlights of his infobox? Topps thought it was significant enough to make a baseball card of it (#205, 1979). You're smarter than the people at Topps?

My thinking is that everyone has a career highlight. However small, there's got to be something that sticks out in this guy's mind as his fiest moment. Stearns played for Mets teams that sucked. I'm guessing that the day he was handed second base and congratulated for setting a record was one for him.

On a completely different note, I decided to research that Greg Minton point. I found where Rusty Staub hit a home run against him on May 9. I don't see one for Stearns. I have a feeling that is an error, but i need to get to work and don't have a chance to really go through the research. Wanna do something constructive...--Johnny Spasm (talk) 09:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I offered the opportunity to do something constructive. You didn't take it. Instead, you chose to make a ridiculous accusation against me. Typical.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 20:50, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Comeback Player award

Thanks for keeping an eye on the templates! Sorry if that edit threw you off, in my editing of Major League Baseball Comeback Player of the Year Award I realize the templates still had the faulty combined info between the TSN and MLB awards so I fixed/split em. Staxringold _talk 00:00, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hollis Thomas

Accident. My bad!►Chris Nelson 15:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

3RR complaint

See WP:AN3#User:Yankees10 and User:Johnny Spasm reported by User:Killervogel5 (Result: ). You are welcome to add your own comment there. If you would promise to stop edit-warring on Pete Rose, you may be able to avoid sanctions. EdJohnston (talk) 15:14, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Ownership problems?

My question is why do you feel the need to stalk me? You've never even met me, and you follow me more loyally than any girlfriend I've ever had.

Look at Keith Hernandez's article. You don't think it benefitted from my work? Likewise, Pete Rose, Catfish Hunter, John Stearns and all those other articles that I've worked on, and you can't seem to leave alone.

Do your own work. Find an article that you can add facts to and fix up. Leave me alone.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 03:27, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yankees10, this comment by you does not look like 'peaceful discussion'. If you can't come up with anything better, both you and Johnny Spasm may be blocked. EdJohnston (talk) 03:54, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

We drew the conclusion in the discussion on Pete Rose that baseball is a team sport, and World Series titles would come BEFORE All Star appearances. I'm the one going with a concession here, not you. Also, in my last edit on Keith Hernandez, you reverted the fact that he's written a third book. You just undid the edit without even reading it. That's unconstructive. I'd love to have a peaceful discussion with you, but it seems impossible.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 09:14, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

October 2009

Template:Z9 at Pete Rose, per a complaint at WP:AN3. EdJohnston (talk) 22:37, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Im not going to contest the block because I know what I did is wrong, but I just want to say you sort of did it in a shady way. First you said you werent going to, and then you just saw us trying to discuss it on your talk page, which now we can't.--Yankees10 22:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

You can be unblocked, even now, if you will promise to stop edit warring on baseball articles. In the discussion so far, neither one of you has expressed the slightest willingness to compromise. EdJohnston (talk) 22:48, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

This might sound weird but I kind of want to stay blocked, just so it can stay off my mind and I can watch the Vikings-Packers game in peace tonight--Yankees10 22:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Were we unblocked for the Twins/Tigers game? Wouldn't know...--Johnny Spasm (talk) 09:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

We've found contradicting sources as to which game, with the Mets or Cubs, prompted Tommy Lasorda to go off in his obscenity laced tirade about Dave Kingman. Do you have nay sources on the subject?--Johnny Spasm (talk) 01:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)--Johnny Spasm (talk) 20:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Did you see the other source on the site, however? It also looks pretty legitimate. Also, the sources I've seen that call it a Mets game call it an 11-0 victory in which he hit three home runs. I've never seen one that calls it a Mets extra innings win before. I'm not comfortable changing it, however, I'm not sure the current game it is credited as being is correct either.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 01:47, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

It would go in the discussion section, right? I brought it up for discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Baseball. I think you might want in on this discussion.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 20:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

1954

Regardless as to whether or not the {{by| prefix should be on every year in a player's article, it should be linked to his birth year. Gary Carter, for example, is listed among the 1954 births. This is why I put it there.

If you go to 1954 in baseball, you will see Gary Carter's birthdate. A better question is why would anyone REMOVE the link from his birth year if such a list is going to exist on "In baseball" pages?--Johnny Spasm (talk) 23:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

by|

Simply put, I don't agree with you. It's always been my understanding that the first time a subject that has its own article in Misplaced Pages is brought up, a link to that page is supposed to be included. That includes years in baseball.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 00:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I've seen discussion at the baseball project page that is at odds with your (Johnny Spasm's) understanding.--Epeefleche (talk) 09:52, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

comment

Sorry ... was it the above comment where I was unclear? What I was trying to say there, quickly, is that I believe that Johnny's linking of the first instance of mention of every year in the body of an article is overlinking in the eyes of the baseball project people.--Epeefleche (talk) 02:11, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Ndamukong Suh

Can you articulate why you removed the Nebraska Football template from Ndamukong Suh, instead of simply undoing my change without comment? Suh is currently a player for Nebraska. Seems completely relevant to me. Fjbfour (talk) 16:18, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Because that template has no mention of him and has no point of being there.--Yankees10 16:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Is there a rule, policy or guideline that states that any time a template/navbox is placed, that the subject of the article where placed should have "a mention" of the subject in that navbox? I've reviewed WP:NAV and WP:CLN and have found no such restriction. Unless you have an alternative source of authority that makes it clear that it should be removed for some other reason than your view that it "has no point of being there", despite the clear association of a person with the team he currently plays for, I'll be putting it back later today. Thanks. Fjbfour (talk) 16:47, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I dont really care about it now as long as it doesnt stay when he gets drafted into the NFL, because that will just be dumb. Also can you have it be closed so it doesnt take up the whole bottom of the page, thanks.--Yankees10 16:49, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree completely, that after Suh is drafted, that the navbox should be removed from his article, and I also agree that the navbox is rather large. I have modified it so that it defaults closed at all times. Fjbfour (talk) 16:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Dextor Clinkscale

Now what was the problem with the changes i made?, they are according Misplaced Pages guidelines and with references, which the currently article doesn't have. What did you gain by leaving this biography without any information ? I really want to understand your point of view, so hopefully you can explain it in more than just a couple of words. Jazz3111 (talk) 20:22, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Ok added the college and professional career headings as you suggested, i suppose you are going to keep the information this time around, correct? Jazz3111 (talk) 23:13, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

OK changed it to a paragraph form as much as i could, keep in mind there isn't a lot of information in the article Jazz3111 (talk) 23:47, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Why do you do this?

You NEVER learn. I took an article that I expanded and positively contributed toward. I like doing that with favorite Mets ballplayers from my youth. You, on the other hand, have nothing better to do than make senseless changes to what now is a pretty good article if I do say so myself. Do you do this to everyone or just me? Do you have nothing better to do? What is it with you? Why do you stalk me? I have ex-girlfriends I find less annoying than you.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 22:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)