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Machida claims to drink his own urine for health benefits (this is easily sourced). While it's one of the first things I think about the guy when he comes to mind, what is the consensus on including this bit of trivia in the wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.116.109.137 (talk) 03:07, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

i think we could add something to the page about how is the god of mma. for a source, we could cite "his fight footage" Kingcrimson12345 (talk) 08:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

• I believe Fedor holds that title right now. Regalion (talk) 07:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

 Agreed on the Fedor comment. What a stupid suggestion anyway. Don't think I need to explain why.

There is a Polish version of the article. Please link it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.76.181.181 (talk) 10:06, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

• Done. Regalion (talk) 07:10, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
• i think there should be a section on the 'machida divide' about his fighting style which gained traction following his defeat win over tito. Nitron (talk) 22:36, 10 August 2008 (UTC)nitron

Drinking Urine?

Machida claims to drink his own urine for health benefits. While this is true the way it is put in is too blunt and trivial, as well as unreferenced. I recommend the sentence be removed, or expanded in a more academic manner, e.g. "Machida's father introduced him to the health benefits of uropathy" as opposed to the simple statement that almost seems derogatory or like slander. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mthulisi (talk • contribs) 05:32, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Machida's use of English

In terms of Machida's language, is it really necessary to include that his language, or lack of English would in any way hamper his ability to become champion? I believe this kind of talk borders on the xenophobic and is believed only by a fringe section of fans. Should not be included in Machida's article. There are many great fighters in the UFC who don't speak English, Anderson Silva is an example. His lack of English has not gotten in the way of his popularity or status as a mixed martial artist. Outside the UFC, Fedor is another example of a great fighter who always depends on an interpreter.24.30.49.127 (talk) 20:53, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

The claim that speaking English could help build Machida's fanbase comes from the referenced article, which is on the biggest MMA website on the internet. If you can reference another article from a comparable source that claims that speaking English will not have an effect on his following, then we can include that as well. -Captain Crawdad (talk) 00:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

That's fine, a reference from a columnist with an opinion published by sherdog does not prove the statement to be fact. The assertion seems to be the author's opinion rather than provable, measurable fact. (24.30.49.127 (talk) 03:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)).

IIf you can prove the notion that Machida's lack of English is a marketing liability, by proving it is a widespread notion in the mma journalism community and not just 1 person's opinion, then you may put this in the article. Otherwise this is a biased assertion which should not be put on the article. I haven't read elsewhere how this hampers Anderson Silva's ability to be a 'marketable champion.' (24.30.49.127 (talk) 23:24, 11 February 2009 (UTC))

Well here's two more:

• "From a marketing standpoint there are obvious drawbacks. He's not particularly charismatic, doesn't speak English and he doesn't have an exciting style."
• The only drawbacks with Machida are that he isn't aesthetically pleasing for the casual fan to watch and he doesn't speak English.,

That's four total commentators so far saying Machida's English has an effect on his popularity. As an aside, here's two quotes I stumbled across about Anderson Silva's English, the first from his own manager:

• "the only thing holding {Anderson Silva} back from breaking through to be a superstar is his English."
• "{Anderson Silva's} inability to speak English well has not helped his star turn"

-Captain Crawdad (talk) 01:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Controversial Stance

On the initial paragraph, you say his stance is 'controversial'. Unfortunately the source you used does not confirm this assertion.

Someone put sources on the "controversial" remark, but they were invalid (they only showed he was being criticized by some) and I've removed them. The point is that being merely criticized is not the same as being controversial. hateless 22:46, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Recent edits to "fighting style" section

I have provided reasons for the recent changes I made to the "Fighting style" section, but those changes were reverted without explanation. I would like to get the reasons for the revert and try to come to a consensus here on the talk page to avoid an edit war. - Captain Crawdad (talk) 23:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Any reason why the obvious karate influence on his fighting style is edged-around? Yes, he fights with a cautious, hang-back then big hit approach, as stated, but this is very characteristic of people with training in shotokan karate. I understand that many UFC fans dislike acknowledging the success of karate tactics in the compeition - is this the reason? Shinji nishizono (talk) 21:49, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

The section is based on what reliable sources say, so I doubt it's not mentioned due to bias on the part of editors. If you have any reliable sources mentioning the connection I'm sure it can be included. --aktsu  22:43, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

=Machida Karate

His style is Machida karate created by his father he confirms this in an interview regarding Georges St Pierre's karate during ufc 100. This is an ofshoot modified version of shotokan but still differs from shotokan and should not be labled as such.

Sumo

He actually trained Sumo for quite time... I'm trying to find realiable sources to quote. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thrapt (talk • contribs) 02:15, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

The reach conversion on wiki is wrong

74 in is about 1.88 M, 75 in is about 1.90 1/2 M and 77 in is about 1.95 1/2 M. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.219.166.18 (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Replied at Talk:Forrest Griffin. --aktsu  19:58, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Judo???

Who was the idiot that changed the article saying that "Judo" is one of his fighting styles? There is no proof of this, not a single reference. I have corrected the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheik07 (talk • contribs) 00:01, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Punch/es

Some people have been changing the last two fights on Machida's record to KO (Punch), however, since Sherdog lists them both as KO (Punches) and is currently the only reference to Machida's record linked in the article, I think the article should reflect the site's content. Also, since Sherdog is the only site of which I am aware that maintains a database of MMA fighter records, I think it should stand as a fairly definitive source. -Captain Crawdad (talk) 03:34, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I can understand how someone might call it punches when Machida knocked out Evans. It was one punch that knocked Evans out, but was preceded by previous punches. However, Machida knocked Silva out with one clean punch at 4:59. His follow up punch was after the bell and after Silva was already out. It was a punch, not punches. Machida threw Silva on the ground then knocked him out with his first punch. When I read the play by play on Yahoo! Sports and MMAWeekly.com I thought they made it clear that it was a one punch knockout. Watching the pay per view it is obvious that it was a one punch knockout. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.124.30.35 (talk) 23:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

We can't use original research to go against a reference. If we're going to contradict Machida's listed record on Sherdog, we're going to need solid references that don't leave anything open to interpretation. -Captain Crawdad (talk) 00:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't consider MMAWeekly.com and Yahoo! Sports as original research, let alone the fight itself. I mean fact is fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.124.30.35 (talk) 01:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I haven't found the pages you're referring to, and they're not referenced in the article. They need to be properly linked in order to be considered references. -Captain Crawdad (talk) 01:41, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

No more false positives

SorryDr. Szląchski (talk) 00:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Someone please fix his record.

Someone has edited his record and it needs to be updated. His last fight was against Rashad Evans at UFC 98, all the other fights added are fake results. Machida will face off against Shogun Rua at UFC104 on October 24th.

So someone please erase the Shogun Rua, Nick Diaz, Fedor Emelianenko, and Brock Lesnar results please, they are fake. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SugerSpider (talk • contribs) 21:05, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

The article needs to be corrected again. He got unanimous decision against Rua and has no control what the judges say, someone correct it. Also, this article should be locked after it is corrected, as many people will have edit wars over it. 74.186.190.52 (talk) 05:00, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Somebody should add a little explanation regarding Lyoto's Shogun fight, or else future fans will think Lyoto won a regular 'well deserved' unanimous decision (which is not the case. At the least it was a controversial fight. At most, a robbery) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkwon (talk • contribs) 12:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

And someone should change the unanimous(49-47) decision in the Rua fight to (48-47), cause thats what actually happened. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.23.109.94 (talk) 15:35, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

````For one, Lyoto only said that all three judges scored the fight for him holding up three fingers to reinforce this. Further, the 24th resource is clearly a biased website and contains numerous challenges. Since there where no actual instruments of measuring the changes in blood pressure, muscle damage, bone fracturing,speed of the strikes, mass of the instruments of strikes, etc... then the resource is a biased analysis and unworthy of being considered fact. Further, the website has shown a biased view in placing Maui Thai kicks over Shotokan and since Lyoto uses a Shotokan Karate stance and both himself and his main teacher (Yoshiza his father) are registered Shotokan black belts even though it is an offshoot the almost exact stances and techniques in striking are enough to register Lyoto as using both Shotokan and a registered variation with Shotokan in Japan as Machida Karate. Saying Lyoto doesn't use Shotokan is like saying Anderson Silva doesn't use Maui Thai because his camp is in Brazil and the U.S.A. Maui Thai like most kickboxing variations contains numerous variations undocumented yet the website I am critizing states Anderson Silva and Rua as using Maui Thai. Even further, Lyoto has entered various Shotokan Karate championships(which he has won some officially regestered)where Machida Karate was represented as Shotokan and was under Shotokan Karate rules under said events.At the very least the 24th source should be striken from being used as a legit record of fact when in fact they are not (not even backed by the UFC or the U.S.A. government or boxing commissions thereof which cover the rules and oversight of most MMA events throughout the U.S.A.).

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