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:::You are flogging a dead horse as this was already dealt with on the article talk page. Does that source you linked titled "Australia loses a great lady" say anywhere that she was a Nazi collaborator? No, it does not. All we have is ]y speculation by Anti-Nationalist. --] (]) 07:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC) | :::You are flogging a dead horse as this was already dealt with on the article talk page. Does that source you linked titled "Australia loses a great lady" say anywhere that she was a Nazi collaborator? No, it does not. All we have is ]y speculation by Anti-Nationalist. --] (]) 07:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
*Hi James086, you asked the question a couple of days back if there is anything more to add before deleting the section, and there apparently isn't, so you are good to go. I count at least 4, including myself, that finds this section disparages the subject. --] (]) 01:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Talk:Lia Looveer
so you're saying it's OK randomly suggest people were "Nazi collaborators" on Misplaced Pages Talk pages, such suggestions do not disparage its subject in any way?--Termer (talk) 20:33, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- the section could be blanked once consensus has been reached? Consensus on what, either the subject was a "nazi collaborator" based on her work at the Baltic Radio, Reichskunfunkt, Germany, Thorn, Poland", the Baltic refugee radio during WWII or not? Perhaps the subject got the British Empire Medal for being a "nazi collaborator"? So are you suggesting that there is no consensus on the talk page that all this was an ultimate BS? BTW the section has been planked several times but it has made no difference. So it seems it's OK to go around and suggest people were "nazi collaborators" at wikipedia talk pages based on anything. And there is nothing one can do about it.--Termer (talk) 07:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Nobody has asked for "deleting the talk page", just the section since wikipedia talk pages were not suppose to be forums where someone can search for "nazi collaborators", and because blanking this nonsense has produced no results.--Termer (talk) 07:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- everything has been said by several editors on the talk page, what else is there to add? And not only me has blanked the page. I'll just let it go since I'm not interested in getting further into hypothetical discussions that serve no other purpose than slandering the subject.--Termer (talk) 07:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- Nobody has asked for "deleting the talk page", just the section since wikipedia talk pages were not suppose to be forums where someone can search for "nazi collaborators", and because blanking this nonsense has produced no results.--Termer (talk) 07:35, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Re: Talk Lia Looveer
James086: as a content editor, Termer is an ally of a bunch of hardcore Eastern European nationalists, currently being investigated for their harrassment of editors, coordianting editing, and lobbying of administrators (please see WP:EEML). This group engaged in POV pushing on a many Eastern European articles: users such as Martintg, a member of the mailing list and the other guy who attempted blanking the talk page, has in many cases attempted whitewashing various pro-Nazi Eastern European people (take, as just one example of this, Martintg removing category "Estonian Nazi collaborators" from Alfons Rebane (), who volunteered to fight for the German forces during Estonia's occupation by Nazi Germany, later joining the SS. He has done this on various other pages. I suggest you let Talk:Lia Looveer stay as it is: I did not insert anything about Looveer in mainspace, and my question about the role she played in Nazi Germany while working for Baltic Radio in 1944-45 is a relevant question that I would like answered. Anti-Nationalist (talk) 20:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- As I've indicated, had you asked your question in the form of a question and not an attack of innuendo, the discussion could have been more constructive. Since you make accusations of whitewashing, I'll make accusations of anti-Estonian attack content, per your derisive user name, anad shall I bring up your edit stating that sexual abuse of children is commonplace in Estonia? (among other edits?) Furthermore, please desist from going on other editor's pages and starting out with charges against editors. PЄTЄRS VЄСRUМВА ►talk 20:36, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
- It's racist to equate all Estonians with Nazi collaborators or POV-pushing Wikipedian nationalists, so don't do it. You guys started this with an attack on me, not the edit, and it is obvious where your angle here is going. When you start caring about content and stop claiming that "unless you were Jewish, the Soviets were the worse of the two evils in Eastern Europe", that "Jewish Bolshevism" is not a standard anti-semitic slur but "an objective observation of the role played by numerous Jews", or insisting that Jewish scholars shouldn't naturally be seen as objective on the Holocaust because they're Jews, nobody will even think of perceiving you as a nationalist hell-bent on pushing his POV. Anti-Nationalist (talk) 20:56, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Way to go "Anti-Nationalist" not only that Lia Looveer was a "nazi collaborator", now Termer is "an ally of a bunch of hardcore Eastern European nationalists". And the only thing for me there is left to do, be amazed that such labeling gets tolerated on wikipedia and nobody does anything about it.--Termer (talk) 04:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hi James086, the consensus is that she is not a Nazi collaborator given that there is absolutely nothing in published sources that calls this British Empire Medal recipient as such. I made a reasonable request to Anti-Nationalist to remove this section as a show of good faith since his question was answered, but he refused citing an "a nationalist block intent on deleting his question". Whatever issue Anti-Nationalist has against his so called "nationalist bloc" opponents, the question has been answered and so this section serves no further purpose and should be deleted. Could you resolve this by deleting this redundant section please. I think Misplaced Pages has a wider social responsibility not to unnecessarily besmirch the reputations of public figures in good standing on article talk pages. Thanks. --Martintg (talk) 04:31, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Could you then explain why at least this source states:
- 1941-44 - announcer/broadcaster State Broadcasting company, Tallinn
- 1944 (September 19)– escaped from Estonia to Germany? Vlad fedorov (talk) 06:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- You are flogging a dead horse as this was already dealt with on the article talk page. Does that source you linked titled "Australia loses a great lady" say anywhere that she was a Nazi collaborator? No, it does not. All we have is WP:SYNTHy speculation by Anti-Nationalist. --Martintg (talk) 07:57, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
- Hi James086, you asked the question a couple of days back if there is anything more to add before deleting the section, and there apparently isn't, so you are good to go. I count at least 4, including myself, that finds this section disparages the subject. --Martintg (talk) 01:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
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