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Also, I'd like to see more on Spain (, , ) and the Copts (). - ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 20:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC) Also, I'd like to see more on Spain (, , ) and the Copts (). - ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 20:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

:I removed the Obama section altogether. Ridiculous to quote a career politician pandering to his Arab audience to make a point on Art History. --] (]) 20:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


== Charlemagne == == Charlemagne ==

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I think you are tending to overstate things here. The pointed arch seems first to have appeared in Syriac churches, and Armenian & Georgian churches have a number of innovations more closely related to later European architecture than any mosques are. The horseshoe arch was I think prevalent in Visigothic Spain before Islam arrived, & very likely a Christian influence on Moslem architecture rather than the other way round. Have you seen the section in Medieval art? You don't say which of several William Hamilton's you are quoting, but the remarks of an 18th century (?) gentleman-amateur should not be given this prominence. Johnbod (talk) 16:03, 7 November 2009 (UTC)


I agree. First off, Islam conquered North Africa (800 AD?), the people in NA already had culture, art, etc when the Muslims got there (Ever heard of Carthage?). Islam doensn't get to claim this as "Islamic". Turkey was Eastern Rome (Bynzantium), there was more art and architecture there than anywhere in the Muslim world 500 years before for there was Islam. If anything, the Muslims took theirs from the Romans (East and West) and then grew. This is all Muslim propaganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpbrown21 (talkcontribs) 19:28, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Obama quote

I don't mean this as a political statement, but must we cite a man who, after all, is a lawyer by profession? How about an art historian like this one?

Also, I'd like to see more on Spain (, , ) and the Copts (). - Biruitorul 20:18, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I removed the Obama section altogether. Ridiculous to quote a career politician pandering to his Arab audience to make a point on Art History. --RCS (talk) 20:13, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Charlemagne

"Charlemagne himself attempted to follow the iconoclastic precepts of the East Roman Emperor Leo Syrus, but this was stopped by Pope Hadrian I" is very far from the case, whatever Arnold J. Toynbee thought. See Libri Carolini - he was not a great fan of images himself, but his court did much to promote their use in the West, including the decisive introduction of large statues into religious art. Johnbod (talk) 23:21, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Oooh

What an interesting and beautifully illustrated article. Well done, and thank-you. 86.133.51.201 (talk) 17:35, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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