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| That's okay. The whole forgetthetalkies issue has been an ongoing problem for over a year. In regard to this one article, the addition of the link by Koplimek isn't linkspam, but the issue of the site itself has been an issue of linkspam by the website owner. That was why it ended up listed by linkbot, but in being asked why a link is removed, how else would one explain it? The problem regarding the Surratt article is that no one has added the filmography to the article, but instead is content to leave it a link in the external links section. In that regard, it isn't duplicate information, since it isn't in the article. I suggested adding the filmography, but that hasn't been done. Thoughts? ] (]) 09:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | That's okay. The whole forgetthetalkies issue has been an ongoing problem for over a year. In regard to this one article, the addition of the link by Koplimek isn't linkspam, but the issue of the site itself has been an issue of linkspam by the website owner. That was why it ended up listed by linkbot, but in being asked why a link is removed, how else would one explain it? The problem regarding the Surratt article is that no one has added the filmography to the article, but instead is content to leave it a link in the external links section. In that regard, it isn't duplicate information, since it isn't in the article. I suggested adding the filmography, but that hasn't been done. Thoughts? ] (]) 09:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
| :Ah, I understand now. Apparently, I wasn't comprehending what you said. Yes, in this case, IMDB is far more reliable than a fan page. Even if the creator believes it is well researched, and it may well be, it is still a self-published website. Thanks for clarifying that. I am still bothered that the editor misrepresented my statements about sourcing and sources. I believe sincerely that when someone is adding content that says this actress and that actress and another actress had abortions, living or dead, it should be cited when it is added. I never called a source unreliable, but I guess I can live with that. ] (]) 17:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | :Ah, I understand now. Apparently, I wasn't comprehending what you said. Yes, in this case, IMDB is far more reliable than a fan page. Even if the creator believes it is well researched, and it may well be, it is still a self-published website. Thanks for clarifying that. I am still bothered that the editor misrepresented my statements about sourcing and sources. I believe sincerely that when someone is adding content that says this actress and that actress and another actress had abortions, living or dead, it should be cited when it is added. I never called a source unreliable, but I guess I can live with that. ] (]) 17:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
| == AN/I Polanski == | |||
| (Since beneath your response to my objection, I am responding here to avoid inspiring another extended response.) | |||
| Perhaps the topic can be hat closed (without result) on the procedural error of no prior discussion on my talk page—with the understanding that the "extraordinary measures" in the wake of the current-events inspired contention are now concluded. Is that acceptable? ] (]) 21:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
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Hello - thanks for the note. It has indeed been a while. I've been not particularly active for quite a while now, so that's probably part of it. It's good to see some old-timers are still about the place. john k (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Re: Peacock
Hi. Regarding the Doctor Steel article, specifically which part(s) were you referring to when you added the Peacock label? I was not in on the original writing of this article but was brought in afterward and have been endeavoring to help clean up the article and make it conform to Misplaced Pages standards, add citations and remove hyperbolic language. I have edited quite a lot of it, but if you could point out specific points you objected to, that would be appreciated, as outside objective observation is always helpful. (I personally have suggested to the committee a rewrite or removal of the first section, "Youth".) We wish to work with Misplaced Pages in good faith on this article, to as much as possible make it objective rather than sensationalist (unlike previous efforts). Thank you. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 09:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Llywrch, the entire article has been revised top to bottom, not just by me but by several admins working on concert. Since you added the Peacock tag, I think it's protocol that you remove it? Thanks. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 04:45, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
The Speed of Light
Llywrch, You are the first one so far who has had the decency to return to AN/I having realized that you made an error. I'll say that in your favour. In recent days there have been a number of others, who despite my prompting, have not done as you have done. There has been too much false inuendo made at AN/I and too many knee jerk reactions as a result. Alot of this trouble could be avoided if the issues in question were more thoroughly investigated. You can see the chronology of events if you go to my entry of 1st August 2009 on Brews ohare's talk page. It's rather rich that after only 18 days, I managed to get page banned for 'persistent' disruption when the dispute has been going on for months and is still going on right now. David Tombe (talk) 12:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Which Tags
Thank you for returning my message. Tagging the sentences would be a good idea, but I'm not really well-versed on the subject of "tags" here, so I'm not sure how to reply. I'd say if you posted a list of the lines and the section(s) they were in to my talk page, that would also suffice. I could then forward that list to the appropriate people.
I informed the committee that wrote the original article and they are already looking at the "Youth" paragraph (the section I assume was most objectionable) and conferring with Doctor Steel, whether to rewrite or edit it or simply remove it altogether.
Appreciate your help. Any other style points you might have for us would likewise be appreciated. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 23:37, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding his onstage persona: I realized yesterday that that paragraph had no documentation, so I took care of that. Much of his onstage persona's backstory is in musical form in his songs, "Lament for a Toy Factory" and "Dr. Steel"; I linked to pages which contained the lyrics of those two songs. Hopefully this will be sufficient.
Regarding the content in the Youth section: As far as I know, this is what Dr. Steel has shared with interviewers about his past. The section links to the bio he wrote of himself on his website. If there is a better way of referencing this, please let me know. Or perhaps that section should be a quotation from him with reference, instead? Thanks. --Jonnybgoode44 (talk) 00:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
- Regarding his onstage persona: I realized yesterday that that paragraph had no documentation, so I took care of that. Much of his onstage persona's backstory is in musical form in his songs, "Lament for a Toy Factory" and "Dr. Steel"; I linked to pages which contained the lyrics of those two songs. Hopefully this will be sufficient.
Hello Llywrch.
I am eager to take my eyes out of their sockets and put them in ice, perhaps do the same with my brain. Too many hours stuck to the screen, that is. But I just had to drop you a word before I retire into Morpheus deceitful blessings. I have been trying to force some sense into my Strategic Planning Proposal:Divide Misplaced Pages (you see trouble began with the very title) and in the process of looking for simlar proposals - you'd be astounded how many there are - I stumbled upon the second I read, Proposal:Stupidity of Increasingly Smaller Crowds, where you were kind enough to leave me an answer to my comentary on your commentary. I just wanted to thank you for the link - yet another world within wikipedia's world is revealed to my devouring curiosity. Regards, -- Thamus 09:40, 31 August 2009 (UTC) P.S. sorry for the red links - can't figure out why so. Perhaps you may tell me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thamus (talk • contribs) 09:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
Iz is blokd
You can has thanks . Awickert (talk) 21:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
The AN/I discussion
Once again Llywrch, I have to thank you for intervening when you saw an obvious injustice. You didn't have to do so, and since we first got off together on the wrong note, the fact that you intervened here goes very much in your favour. David Tombe (talk) 23:03, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
So many proposals, and so little time!
Hi there again. Thank you so much for your prompt and useful answer about the links. I hope this won't be imposing on you too much, but I am bewildered about the reactions I am getting on http://strategy.wikimedia.org/Proposal_talk:Divide_Wikipedia and wondered if you could give your views on wether it is I who can't express myself or people just don't read. Should I change the title? Can the main ideas be understood, or do I need to rewrite the wole thing? Or just complete it? Or...? Please don't feel obliged even to answer, but if you feel inclined to :), could u use my talk page or mail? Will be very stressed for the next couple of weeks and have to limit wikitime dramatically :( I am making the same request to other people here whose judgement I respect. Also, about laissez faire, I'd say, for now, that I am too young here to express any thoughts that could be valuable to you, but i need to read it again much more closely. So far, it certainly clarified your position, and I thank you again for expanding my view. Saludos, -- Thamus 16:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Why did you use an edit summary to make what looks like a personal attack on me?
It's hard to see
- Fine explanation, I've replied on my talk page. No problem then. Dougweller (talk) 18:34, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
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talkback
Wikipedia_talk:Article_Rescue_Squadron#Inclusionism_and_Deletionism_debate_between_two_prominent_editors PING. I was thinking of letting editors submit questions, let me know what you think of this question, ASAP. If you are on, let me know. Ben seems to be on a vacation, so I may proceed ASAP. Ikip (talk) 01:15, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
- I am going to hold off on this for now, thanks for your comments :) Ikip (talk) 19:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
Flogging a dead horse
Made the move from 'beating' as per various discussions on the talk page, in which you took part in favour of the move. -- Ishel99 (talk) 02:12, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
- Heh heh, thanks for the feedback... yes, I was surprised to see for how long the move had been mooted but no-one had actually done it. It wasn't simple as it required another move from the article name I wanted to use to Flogging a Dead Horse (album) and then a request for an admin to remove the resulting redirect... and then presto, made the move this morning. Not earth-shattering, just another tiny drop in the vast ocean of Misplaced Pages. =^^= -- Ishel99 (talk) 05:55, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
File:Ethiopia location map.svg
HI! Hope you are happy with the new better quality svg I requested. I noticed thought it looks better at 300px like Asaita because of the scale.
Also I wonderd if you could create a set of navigation templates by province to connect the woredas. E.g Gewane (woreda) I want to navigate to the other woredas of the province but not even the category does...
Himalayan 19:53, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Hehe yes! No this time it was done from my Tibetan monastery... Harar looks good I think, dunno if 300 is maybe a little too big maybe 260 or 280 might work better. If the map is featured above standard size it looks much better I think.. For the woredas, I would recommend something in the format of Template:Ararat. Of course you could use standard nav colors and I dunno if the provinces are split into districts or not. If so they can be organized in the same way lisitng the worderas under each district by section of the province. If not then they can all go in one bunch. If you like I can do one province as an example to follow? I'm a bit tied at the mo I'm just finishing off the huge transwikiying of Culture of Tunisia! Himalayan 20:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I see they have zones like Administrative Zone 3 (Afar) etc so best to organize those at the side and the woredas within them. Himalayan 20:15, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Howz
Template:Woredas of the Afar Region
OK? Himalayan 20:24, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeah, the Oromia Region is huge isn't it. Well if there ar emore than 20 zones anyway they won't fit down the side. If there are under 20 zones it will fit but you'd have to shrink the template to default close. Himalayan 20:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC) Also, have you considered a way we might be able to make our own woreda location maps? I think these woreda articles would be improved with a highlighted locator map within the region and zone? Himalayan 20:33, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
That's definately the most awkward thing a government can do is keep restructuring districts and overlapping and merging some whilst splitting others. Especially when other sources name certain towns under a former division and the maps are still in the articles of the former districts it makes it a nightmare to try to work out what is which. Senegal did this recently, and I know numerous other African nations like DR Congo have done it too. Himalayan 20:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
It is the same with the majority of the African countries, particularly on small towns and villages. What is remarkable is how far you've managed to find some data and be able to write articles at least with some useful text. Try finding info on the web to expand an article on a small town in, evne a major city in Gabon, Guinea or Liberia or something for anything other than the capital city online and as yet there is very little. Liberia apparently had a census in 2008, I am yet to see anything.... Thanks to your work we actually have something half decent on many small towns and they set a good initial example for the others to follow. Himalayan 20:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh yeah, its definately getting better all the time, just look for instance how many new language translation services google has recently expanded in. When I started on the wiki there was practically nothing for a lot of places. At least even countries like Gabon are growing on the web, particularly with government websites and newpapers making access to knowledge easier. The web is still in its infancy and still in its teething stages in many African countries, so it will get better, undoubtedly. Yes I managed to find some info mostly through aid sites on places like Gory, Mali. They have info on over 200 communes which is something.. Himalayan 21:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
Any chance you could create some new articles on towns in regions such as the Gambela Region Category:Cities, towns and villages in the Gambela Region to even up the coverage a bit. It seems that some regions are much better covered than others. Is there a reason for this? Is there info for towns in Gambela for instance? Himalayan 11:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Urgh, google search for Tergol showed this. Himalayan 11:12, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Agreed, on going where the info flows anway. Not much point in creating Tergol if it can't be expanded by anybody. As long as it is a verifiable inhabited settlement I doubt it would be AFD'd, much less deleted but it would be haning around as a short stub for a long time.. That is exactly why I didn't start it because of lack of info. Good job on those settlements, aparticularly the Djibouti one.. Himalayan 17:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Well I'm pretty sure you could out do Guigba anyway. 95% of these Algerian town articles contain zilch info.. Himalayan 18:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Well they are all virtually as poorly developed as that. I did expand Akbou and an adjacent commune earlier from French wiki but they really need proper citations. At least the info on French wikipedia on some of the places is a start to begin expanding them, a lot of their other commune stubs are like Guigba. Himalayan 18:52, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Oh I didn't think you meant for me to expand it right away, for a lot of places as with Ethiopia there is not much online it really is uneven. I know, it really gets very frustrating at times that well over 2.5 million of our articles really lack basic information or are unreferenced/have issues. The people who really seem to care about places in the developing world like us are really extremely low on here and however much time we devote to trying to improve the situation we will never be able to get done what we want. This site potentially has enormous potential but in many areas we are really under achieving. Even articles about medium sized American and Canadian towns are mostly very poor articles!! I'm sure you;ve come across some of the unincorporated community articles.... Sometimes I wonder given the size of the United States and the amount of editors on here why even many important American topics are neglected, whether they are forest parks, rivers or lakes or towns etc. Even the article on Las Vegas is pretty poorly written and referenced. DOn't know about you but it really annoys me when I see tens evne hundreds of editors involved in some dispute over an editor or one article and spend days even weeks endlessly discussing and arguing over it while 80% of our stubs are lying around. Even if 1/10 of those involved in wiki drama and hang out at ANI on here helped actually write articles we'd get places fast. Himalayan 19:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
Shock horror, one of those !!! this was still missing!!! moments for Alula Engida. Nice job! Well done! Himalayan 19:20, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
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Ethiopia
Hi, your recent edit has probably caused a big increase to the number of unassessed articles. If you don't want to use Image-Class, Portal-Class, etc. you can at least classify them as NA-Class to show that they don't need assessing? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
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| 2 | 0 | 22 | 184 | 465 | 2,233 | 2,250 | 1 | 163 | 2,651 | 27 | 17 | 25 | 1 | 62 | 261 | 200 | 12 | 114 | 8,690 |
- I'm not sure I understand your point. AFAIK, there ought not to be any unassessed Ethiopia-related articles -- except for the two "C" class assessments I know about. Looking at the 35 that popped up on that banner, they all appear to be disambiguation pages -- which I'm not concerned about & will removed the WP:Ethiopia tags from. (If someone volunteers to watch those Ethiopia-related disambig tags, I'll change it back -- it's just that I'm not interested in doing the work, & at the moment I'm the only one in the WikiProject.) -- llywrch (talk) 16:08, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was only trying to save you some time. With this edit I have made it so that non-articles will automatically be classified as NA-class, so you shouldn't need to change any of them manually. However, I notice that {{AfricaProject}} is still using all these classes (including C-class), so unfortunately the categories can't be deleted ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Aha, now I understand. I didn't know those parameters could be assigned multiple values. -- llywrch (talk) 16:38, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was only trying to save you some time. With this edit I have made it so that non-articles will automatically be classified as NA-class, so you shouldn't need to change any of them manually. However, I notice that {{AfricaProject}} is still using all these classes (including C-class), so unfortunately the categories can't be deleted ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:31, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Sudan
Hey, we now have a new map for Sudan and Senegal too. Just checked out Akobo, Sudan which I stubbed a while back. It has been expanded but unreferenced and maybe controversial! Himalayan 11:41, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Lake Turkana
I think this is a case of double mutual categorization. What good would either category be if it lacked the element categorized solely in the other? --Mr Accountable (talk) 20:48, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
- No, that makes a lot of sense, I'm going to go ahead and do it. --Mr Accountable (talk) 21:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Aberra Molla (2nd nomination)
Thought you might want to comment. Himalayan 12:33, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, I personally don't think he is notable, (but probably little different in terms of level of actitivy and notbaility than thousands of other articles on here) but I wanted to know what you thought... I mean immunoglobulin is, but having a biography about him especially I'm not to sure... Himalayan 16:31, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Cool, I dare say in a lot of cases people turn out to be more notable than one might think because of the language barrier. But if I come across a vanity article that reads like a CV I get suspicious, as one does briwsing through articles about Pakistani business and military figures for instance.... Himalayan 16:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Well take for instance Shahzada Alam Monnoo. Your typical Pakistani biography article on here. Now it does indicate notability in part but is obviously completely unreferenced but in some parts it gets a bit suspicious because of the way it is written. Having read that article there is nothing in it which makes me inclined to believe a word it says. If however it was well referenced to reliable sources, wikified and cleaned up it would give me a whole new outlook on it. Unfortunately the number of articles that exist like this make finding a place to start very daunting... Himalayan 16:52, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Exactly. I believe the man is notable and there are sources that exist which prove it he is an influential figure in commerce in Pakistan but it s the way that is is written and presented which mostly gives a wrong impression. I guess at least it does mention he was Minister of Commerce, similar articles would probably just say "he is very rich man, Pakistani PM thinks he is bestest mill owner in Lahore district. Himalayan 17:05, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Abba Garima
DYK that Abba Garima Monastery, located near Adwa, Ethiopia contains the crown of the Emperor Zara Yaqob of the Solomonic dynasty? I've made a start on this article... Would be nice to find a photo.. Himalayan 14:40, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes thats a DYK hook. Yes I thought that map looked quite rare too, glad it helps. Himalayan 16:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Tekle Haymanot of Gojjam
I believe I may have a solution to the "roughly equivalent to Duke" issue found in the Tekle Haymanot of Gojjam article ... and all other related articles. Please let me know what you think. Thanks! Mkpumphrey (talk) 14:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
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Woredas
Hi, I'll draw up the bones for the templates at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Ethiopia/Woreda templates. Himalayan 11:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Dunno about emailing... Well I'll leave it up to go to organize the templates to your wishes, in your own time... Himalayan 16:10, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Well there is of course the option to display them like Template:Tehsils of Punjab (Pakistan). The zone and then the woredas if there are too many zones to fit down the side.. Himalayan 16:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Ya, I asked him to! Not a cooincidence... He can do it quicker than me using AWB... Himalayan 17:24, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Done
You've got mail!--Crossmr (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Religion in Benishangul-Gumuz
Hi. I just read article about Benishangul-Gumuz Region and there seems to be a problem with census data about religion. According to the article, 1994 census recorded 44.1% Muslims and 34.8% Orthodox Christians, while 2007 recorded 95.6% Orthodox Christians and 4.0% Muslims. It is highly imposible that such drastical change in religion makeup of the region could happen in 13 years period, so the most logical conclusion is that data from one of the censuses is incorrect. Since you was a person that posted 2007 census results into article (1994 results were posted by anonymous user), can you please check your data again to be sure that it is correct? PANONIAN 20:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
By-elections
The article itself is unclear - were the elections only for vacant seats, or were they full elections for the local authorities? пﮟოьεԻ 57 19:17, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
- You should probably rename the article "Ethiopian local elections, 2008", and add the by-elections as an addition to the article. Then there can be a section on the template for local elections (as there is here. пﮟოьεԻ 57 19:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
Lies about the Ethiopian Orthodox Church
It causes me a lot of grief that you are so determined to spread lies about the Ethiopian Orthodox Church in direct contradiction of their own position, presenting them as if they were truth. Do you not have anything better to do with your time. I am more than prepared to take this to higher mediation or arbitration, as it violates every aspect of the NPOV policy. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Partisan badgering from Til Eulenspiegel? The shock! Seriously, Til, this kind of behavior will not result in improvement to the article (or even in getting what you want). All it does is create a toxic atmosphere no reasonable person would want to enter.--Cúchullain /c 17:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
- Cuchullain, your snide comments do not change any of the facts one iota; what exactly do they accomplish? However, I am content with your latest edit, attributing by name the actual authors who stated their opinion, so considering how delicate this is I would advise keeping the current status quo of that sentence. Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 17:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
I've explained my position on the matter to T.E. on her Talk page. However, C. might understand one of the reasons I procrastinated in organizing the notes I have accumulated to write Christological disputes in Ethiopia. In any case, I suggested a solution on her Talk page that would benefit everyone involved in the matter; I consider this matter closed, & would appreciate both of you taking your discussion elsewhere. -- llywrch (talk) 18:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Under the influence of coffee
Please see this discussion. It's less intriguing than it seems. Durova 21:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Attacks at AFD AN/I
Hello--You left this comment. Another admin (Xavexgoem) left this one. I just wanted to get a feel for "what happens next" in regard to that AN/I. Is the discussion effectively over now, or is it worth continuing? Is it your judgment that we should let things lie until there are more problems, and then do something? Would we start another AN/I if there is a repeat of similar troubles or head to ArbCom (about which I know almost nothing)? Should we consider Skipsievert "officially warned" to change their behavior in some way?
Anyway, thanks. I'm just trying to figure out where things lie. I'm going to leave a similar message for Xavexgoem here. CRETOG8(t/c) 02:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
Request for arbitration
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Ethiopian Names
Regarding your post to Misplaced Pages talk:Categorization of people#Ethiopian names of 04 October —
Would you be so kind as to correct the incorrect applications of values for {{DEFAULTSORT}} and |listas= that you find rather than revert them?
It is the desire of the Biography WikiProject that all articles covered by the project have a values for {{DEFAULTSORT}} and |listas=. To this end there are a few editors who are working on the pages in Category:Biography articles without listas parameter and are applying values. None of us is an expert on every naming convention and none of us pretends to be. Reverting the previous attempt without an edit summary that is instructional only throws the alligator back into the swamp where another editor, who generally does not have the time to read the history of the file and the clever edit summaries, will do his or her best to apply a sort value.
It would also be helpful if you were to scan the pages of Category:Biography articles without listas parameter for Ethopians and add the correct sort values so that neither a human nor a bot will be prompted to add one that is incorrect. That is only a suggestion and it is completely understandable if you do not have the time to scan 150 pages of any category.
Thank you for your cooperation, support and assistance. JimCubb (talk) 05:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
siege of jerusalem 637
hi, I have made some changes to the article as advised in the review, please check it again for further suggestions if any. regards... الله أكبرMohammad Adil 18:23, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
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Valeska Suratt
I want to say thanks, for your help & recommendations at WP:ANI. Appreciate it very much. Koplimek (talk) 17:11, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
AN/I
That's okay. The whole forgetthetalkies issue has been an ongoing problem for over a year. In regard to this one article, the addition of the link by Koplimek isn't linkspam, but the issue of the site itself has been an issue of linkspam by the website owner. That was why it ended up listed by linkbot, but in being asked why a link is removed, how else would one explain it? The problem regarding the Surratt article is that no one has added the filmography to the article, but instead is content to leave it a link in the external links section. In that regard, it isn't duplicate information, since it isn't in the article. I suggested adding the filmography, but that hasn't been done. Thoughts? Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I understand now. Apparently, I wasn't comprehending what you said. Yes, in this case, IMDB is far more reliable than a fan page. Even if the creator believes it is well researched, and it may well be, it is still a self-published website. Thanks for clarifying that. I am still bothered that the editor misrepresented my statements about sourcing and sources. I believe sincerely that when someone is adding content that says this actress and that actress and another actress had abortions, living or dead, it should be cited when it is added. I never called a source unreliable, but I guess I can live with that. Wildhartlivie (talk) 17:24, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
AN/I Polanski
(Since TomBaker321 has responded at length beneath your response to my objection, I am responding here to avoid inspiring another extended response.)
Perhaps the topic can be hat closed (without result) on the procedural error of no prior discussion on my talk page—with the understanding that the "extraordinary measures" in the wake of the current-events inspired contention are now concluded. Is that acceptable? Proofreader77 (talk) 21:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)