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== Regarding advise (sic) to Grundle == | ||
So where is ''your'' good faith advice to Grundle now that he was blocked again (indef.)? Too busy with bacon?] (]) 19:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC) | So where is ''your'' good faith advice to Grundle now that he was blocked again (indef.)? Too busy with bacon?] (]) 19:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
:My advice to Grundle would be to avoid trolls and disruptive admins. Speaking of which, I have not interest in conversing you. I find your behavior despicable. ] (]) 19:38, 13 December 2009 (UTC) |
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I'm going to attempt to work on article content now
Hopefully some sanity will return to ANI, and the admins engaging in battlefield behavior will stop their disruptive behavior. If anyone has any questions or requires an explanation on anything, please let me know. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- It would be best if you finished up what you started and for example responded on ANI to people until the situation was considered resolved by all involved parties. As you can guess dispute resolution is not an easy process. If one is able to do a good job focusing on articles, its usually enough for the average person. --Matt57 19:51, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've said my piece. If there are any additional questions or concerns just let me know and I'm happy to address them. As long as there are no more attacks or innacurate statements made against me by John Carter, Tarc, or others, I'd like to get back to article work. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure when the above mentioned editors made an "attack" on you, before you started that issue on ANI. --Matt57 20:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. I know you're not aware aware of their history of disruptive behavior and attacks. That's clear from your comments. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I think its the other way around. I've been around long enough to know that I agreed with the other editors who supported some kind of action on you. I had talked to you above as well hoping that you would stop. Hopefully you've learned by now not to take part in disputes on ANI anymore, unless (1) they involve you directly (e.g. where you're editing those articles) or (2) if someone asks for your input. Thanks and good luck. --Matt57 20:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I am a prolific editor here and I will not be chased off of any area of the encyclopedia if I can help it. Thanks for your input. I'd like to get back to content contributing now. Take care of yourself and have fun. I'm not interested in continuing this discussion with you, as I tried to make clear previously. You're input is unasked for, unconstructive, and your involvement unwelcome, so perhaps following your own advice would be appropriate. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- CoM, I do hope that you will review your approach later - as a general point, you need not necessarily agree with feedback, but potentially appearing completely unreceptive does not help either. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 20:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I appreciate any input you want to offer Ncm. I'm certainly not perfect and I welcome collegial suggestions. When someone takes a side and pursues their interests and point of view relentlessly on my talk page in a way that is antagonistic, after they've already let their opinions be known, it gets a bit tiresome. There is a related discussion above that went on for quite a while. I also don't think it's appropriate for an editor to tell another editor where they should or shouldn't edit. I see that kind of statement as a serious civility violation, a grotesque act of intimidation, and an improper approach that amounts to censorship. But you're welcome to disagree with me. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm glad to hear it. :) I generally agree with what you've said. but I think if someone does say all that, there is no harm in at least promising to review your edits, and amending your approach accordingly. You may still disagree by the end of the review, but you may find something else to amend/improve on (and that can sometimes make the difference, or so I've found). It'll also mean you at least tried to appreciate and respond to any concerns over specific edits. Reflecting on why someone chose to give a particular piece of feedback can effectively lead to self-improvement, whether it's in the edits/comments you choose to make (or not make), whether it's in things you should specifically avoid, or whether it's in things you should specifically do or include in commentary. Note, that I personally don't have any concerns with any of your edits, unless I've stated otherwise at a particular discussion. This was more of raising the general point, and elaborating on it now. I hope that helps. :) Ncmvocalist (talk) 04:46, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I appreciate any input you want to offer Ncm. I'm certainly not perfect and I welcome collegial suggestions. When someone takes a side and pursues their interests and point of view relentlessly on my talk page in a way that is antagonistic, after they've already let their opinions be known, it gets a bit tiresome. There is a related discussion above that went on for quite a while. I also don't think it's appropriate for an editor to tell another editor where they should or shouldn't edit. I see that kind of statement as a serious civility violation, a grotesque act of intimidation, and an improper approach that amounts to censorship. But you're welcome to disagree with me. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- CoM, I do hope that you will review your approach later - as a general point, you need not necessarily agree with feedback, but potentially appearing completely unreceptive does not help either. Regards, Ncmvocalist (talk) 20:35, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I am a prolific editor here and I will not be chased off of any area of the encyclopedia if I can help it. Thanks for your input. I'd like to get back to content contributing now. Take care of yourself and have fun. I'm not interested in continuing this discussion with you, as I tried to make clear previously. You're input is unasked for, unconstructive, and your involvement unwelcome, so perhaps following your own advice would be appropriate. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:17, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I think its the other way around. I've been around long enough to know that I agreed with the other editors who supported some kind of action on you. I had talked to you above as well hoping that you would stop. Hopefully you've learned by now not to take part in disputes on ANI anymore, unless (1) they involve you directly (e.g. where you're editing those articles) or (2) if someone asks for your input. Thanks and good luck. --Matt57 20:14, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. I know you're not aware aware of their history of disruptive behavior and attacks. That's clear from your comments. Cheers. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:08, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure when the above mentioned editors made an "attack" on you, before you started that issue on ANI. --Matt57 20:03, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- I've said my piece. If there are any additional questions or concerns just let me know and I'm happy to address them. As long as there are no more attacks or innacurate statements made against me by John Carter, Tarc, or others, I'd like to get back to article work. Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:54, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hello! Thanks for your note. As part of my dedicated quest to waste time, and depending on your sense of humour and recollection of recent accusations levelled against you for your actions, you may or may not profitably visit http://commons.wikimedia.org/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Darshan.jpg and meditate over the words "maybe Cirt forgot to let you know about the image deletion or maybe he was planning to do it but we did let you know so its ok." Yours in good grief (and I really do mean it) Redheylin (talk) 00:00, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Otherwise, what you say is perfectly sensible. Redheylin (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ugh. I was going to "no comment", but my impartial assessment (apart from disapproving of the additional "ironies" manifest in the complainant statements and wondering how to stop the bickering) is that you need to address whether you took the photo, and if not how you are the proper copyright holder of the original image. Perhaps now you will be sorry you mentioned the discussion here. Feel free to adjust your ANI comments about me accordingly. ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:12, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- Otherwise, what you say is perfectly sensible. Redheylin (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Saudi Bacon
In Riyadh in the late 1970s, the Al Khozama hotel served Pseudo-bacon in the breakfast buffet. It was not real bacon (it was made out of beef) but it looked like bacon. It didn't really taste like bacon. After a few months, the hotel pulled it from the menu. They had complaints that it would make people think of bacon. I am trying to forget about the whole affair. Aymatth2 (talk) 02:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Seemed like a good idea in Baconian theory Redheylin (talk) 02:43, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
Reinschweinsgebot would not go down well in Saudi either, for more than one reason. Aymatth2 (talk) 16:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Freddie Barnes
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Materialscientist (talk) 23:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Cool! Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
- Congrats & nice job =) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 01:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Hamster :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 09:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Congrats & nice job =) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 01:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Holas
Not very often that I agree with you. ;-) Seems others on the thread also agree with your statement. Nicely put. Hope you have a good evening. Killiondude (talk) 02:31, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note Killion. I honestly can't remember where we've come into disagreement previously, but if you let me know which issues you're still confused on I'd be happy to set you straight. :) Take care and have fun. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:47, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- It might have been better to refrain from commenting all together. But I thought it would be good to note the basic principle. ChildofMidnight (talk) 09:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory
I'm sorry, I have to delete the article per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory. I know, you are a good editor, and I have often agreed with you in the past, but I have to disagree with you now. If you still think that it is definitely notable and would like to work on it, I will be happy to send you the text of the page. — Sebastian 04:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for this extraordinarily courteous note Sebastian. You really went above and beyond. In light your kindness, I am willing to put off calling for you to be desysoped at least until the next time you delete something I want kept. :)
- I am a bit surprised at the outcome. The man and the busines seemed quite notable to me. You weren't swayed by the Chicago Sun-Times story about the company that said "The Surplus Record is known as the bible of the used and surplus capital equipment industry." Oh well, I guess it's not possible to "win them all". Thanks again for your exceptionally considerate and collegial approach, and for making the extra effort to notify me of the outcome, as well as for your other contributions. It's pretty freaking cool that we're writing an encyclopedia. I remember the ones we used to have on the shelf (actually my brother had them on his shelves... so unfair!). If you're willing and able to move it to my userspace, I'll be more than happy to reintroduce it to article space when you're not looking. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:17, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, to be honest, that was an oversight on my part. To tell you what happened: I thought the first paragraph of that post was the entire citation, and mistook the rest as just your personal opinion. What we can learn from this, other than that I need to learn how to read, is that less is often more. Of course I will gladly userfy the article, and I am sure that I won't have to look away when you reintroduce it. — Sebastian 05:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. Please leave me a link so I know where it's at and can add it to the list I keep so i don't forget about it. Thanks again Sebastian. Truly your communicative and open approach is inspiring. :) That Basket of Puppies character must be having an influence around here! ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of User:ChildofMidnight/Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory. But I just realize we have a little problem. There are two redirect pages, which, according to process, should get speedily deleted: Thomas P. Scanlan and Surplus Record. I think I'll just do that, although it's somewhat silly. Remember to put them back, too. Thanks for your kind words! — Sebastian 06:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I improved it some and recreated. We'll see what happens. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm thinking of User:ChildofMidnight/Surplus Record Machinery & Equipment Directory. But I just realize we have a little problem. There are two redirect pages, which, according to process, should get speedily deleted: Thomas P. Scanlan and Surplus Record. I think I'll just do that, although it's somewhat silly. Remember to put them back, too. Thanks for your kind words! — Sebastian 06:07, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan. Please leave me a link so I know where it's at and can add it to the list I keep so i don't forget about it. Thanks again Sebastian. Truly your communicative and open approach is inspiring. :) That Basket of Puppies character must be having an influence around here! ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:58, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, to be honest, that was an oversight on my part. To tell you what happened: I thought the first paragraph of that post was the entire citation, and mistook the rest as just your personal opinion. What we can learn from this, other than that I need to learn how to read, is that less is often more. Of course I will gladly userfy the article, and I am sure that I won't have to look away when you reintroduce it. — Sebastian 05:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Ricky Dobbs
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Materialscientist (talk) 12:01, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Cool! Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Happy Festivus!
Happy Festivus! Grundle2600 (talk) 19:13, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Grundle! It's definitely a Festivus for the rest of us. I wanted to drop you a note about Crash squirrel, but I'm increasingly paranoid and didn't want to be accused of canvassing. Cheers. Have a good one. Go Titans! :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
"In space, no one can hear you scream..."
Geoff 20:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'm speechless. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:15, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- CoM, this guy came out of nowhere yesterday and now has a stunning 32 points on the table for the cup. This guy is going to be a really tough opponent. ;)--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 21:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- And since Drmies refuses to cook Calf's Liver with Bacon, I'm trying to nerve myself up to cook it myself so I can create and post a pic he can use for his article. Geoff 23:56, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- Geoff, I admire you immensely. I'm trying to be a strong man, but I find the mere thought of that dish revolting, and my wife would never allow me to cook it. Good for you! Enjoy! Drmies (talk) 18:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Don't do it Geoff. It's not worth it! ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I see no harm. The competition is heating up after all. It just means that the rest of us need to get the points jamming to keep up. ;)--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- He's on 36 points now by the way. He's on FIRE!--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I see no harm. The competition is heating up after all. It just means that the rest of us need to get the points jamming to keep up. ;)--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Just out of curiousity, are you going to report all your contributions at the very last minute to surprise everyone from behind?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, I'll try to do them as I go along. I don't think I've done any yet. It should perhaps be noted that Drmies has several sandboxes full of bacon... ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Mmmm. Drmies's Sandboxes. Tasty. Hey, would you like to be the official reporter for the event. You know, write a weekly report on how the content is coming along, how the points are stacking up, that sort of thing?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:41, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- The advantage of getting reports in early is that nobody is able to start/extend upload the same content before you and get the points instead.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Everyone will be pleased to know that I never win anything, so fear not! Geoff 01:20, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe we can rotate the reports, whoever is leading gets to answer a set of questions on their progress and the progress of the event? I hesitate to be in charge of anything and my sense of humor is very rarely appreciated. But we can discuss it further. And Geoff would be a fabulous commentator and I'm happy to support him taking on that role! ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:05, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- No, I'll try to do them as I go along. I don't think I've done any yet. It should perhaps be noted that Drmies has several sandboxes full of bacon... ChildofMidnight (talk) 00:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. I've asked him. I might also prepare some questions for him later.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 04:13, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps a short set of questions for whoever the leader is that can be asked Monday's or even every other Monday. "as the current leader of the race for the Bacon WikiCup, can you give us an update on how the contest is going so far?" etc. Just an idea. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done on his talk page.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 05:23, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Perhaps a short set of questions for whoever the leader is that can be asked Monday's or even every other Monday. "as the current leader of the race for the Bacon WikiCup, can you give us an update on how the contest is going so far?" etc. Just an idea. ChildofMidnight (talk) 04:21, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- If I don't have to eat everything I find (or fix), I'm good for it (urrp! - pardon me!) Now, back to chasing that calf so I can start on cooking Calf Liver and Bacon... Geoff 15:57, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Speaking of screaming, so far, the only suitably licensed photo I have found for 'fakon' is this much too busy photo which includes a couple of Morningstar Veggie Bacon Strips. (Some of the non-free photos are frightening.) I sure hate to think I might have to buy some just to photograph it, so I guess I'll wait to see if any vegans are attracted to a bacon-themed contest. Somehow, the prospect seems unlikely. Geoff 19:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I kind of like that photo actually. Gives some interesting context both culinary and sociocultural. I'm not sure if it will look too small to make out the details, but I think it would be okay. Better than nothing anyway. I reiterate my opposition to your preparing a feast of bacon and liver, and I also oppose the buying, making and eating of fakon. Some endeavors are just too extreme and dangerous to be taken on so lightly. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:39, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, OK. I cropped it so the "fakon" stands out a bit more. I'll have to take your advice about the liver and bacon - the calf runs like crazy everytime I get near it. I suppose it's the axe or something. Geoff 21:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I like the original one too. Can you upload it also? It's a good illustration of a vegetarian breakfast and is interesting. It could be croppeda little up to the edge of the bananas and the m in Times if you want to go all out. :) I created a fakon article, but forgot to do it in userspace... Oops. It's LIVE! Unless someone deletes it... ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Go here for the archived full version, if that helps. Geoff 23:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I like the original one too. Can you upload it also? It's a good illustration of a vegetarian breakfast and is interesting. It could be croppeda little up to the edge of the bananas and the m in Times if you want to go all out. :) I created a fakon article, but forgot to do it in userspace... Oops. It's LIVE! Unless someone deletes it... ChildofMidnight (talk) 22:30, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
FLC
Can you review the Family Guy season 5.--Pedro J. 00:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Translation help requested
{{helpme}} I'd like to have both of these articles brought over from the Italian Misplaced Pages. How do I make it happen? ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:32, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
I don't want anyone to panic, but this is kind of urgent. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look at google if you can find a strong transladure--Pedro J. 02:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- See WP:Translation. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 02:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- The google translations border on useless I'm afraid. See user talk:Giano page (bottom) for an example of my experience using that method. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Also, have a look at WP:RFT.The people here may be able to help also. fetchcomms☛ 02:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- You're very welcome :) fetchcomms☛ 04:09, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) Also, have a look at WP:RFT.The people here may be able to help also. fetchcomms☛ 02:40, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- The google translations border on useless I'm afraid. See user talk:Giano page (bottom) for an example of my experience using that method. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:38, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- See WP:Translation. Cheers! Scapler (talk) 02:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Bacon Challenge
Thanks very much for your note CoM. I had an idea for a little article for Bacon Challenge 2010 that I will try to roll out as soon as I have some time. Look forward to reading the neat contributions of everyone participating though. Best regards -- Samir 02:54, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
Re:Image question
Basically, yeah, if an image is removed it's often sort of lost- that's why Commons is useful for galleries and categories. If the image is non-free and is removed, it will be deleted fairly quickly, but free ones will typically languish indefinitely. It'd be easy to do a database query to find all orphaned free images, I would imagine, but that's not something I'm good at... Was there something in particular you wanted to do, or were you just curious? J Milburn (talk) 10:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- I believe ShakespeareFan00 (talk · contribs) works through them sometimes, tagging them to be sent to Commons. I'm sure someone will do it... J Milburn (talk) 16:45, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
No problem
Sorry, I've been away for a while and haven't really been responding to anything on here. Anyway, as long as the info (on the donuts) is useful, then I'm glad I could help. I also saw something about "healthy bacon" recipes, too, but I don't know how that would fit in with your bacon drive... I'll have to dig it back up for you in case you thought it might be of interest and would fit in somewhere ;-) Cheers, Shymian (talk) 09:12, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
Bloodring
I assume you were trying to tweak for clarity. Thanks for that. However you introduced inaccuracies. I've corrected them. LadyofShalott 18:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Gulp. Uh oh. Sorry about that. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:54, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I was confused where it said "where her own kind live (both as prison and sanctuary) because of the telepathy that threatened to drive her insane." I thought that meant that she was living with other telepathics. But I see that the Enclave is a place where other Mages live (her own kind) and she moved away to hide among humans? There are a few bits in there that still seem a bit confusing to me as someone unfamiliar with the book. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's right. Clearer now? What is still confusing? If I can make it better I will. LadyofShalott 19:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- You probably saw I trimmed the bit about the world ending in an unexpected way. I couldn't find any explanation and it didn't seem like an appropriate cliff hanger, though enticing... If it's important and worth noting I think some explanation is needed. BUt if it is a spoiler I'm fine with leaving it out.
- I also had trouble with some of the terminology used. Is the term neomage a neologism? I think some explanation of what that means would be helpful. Also, is the world in the book Earth? A planet like earth? There are humans, but I couldn't quite tell for sure who was who and where they were and what they were up to. :) The telepathic bit noting that other mages aren't telepathic and that everyone would kill her if they knew part seems like it could be rewritten or broken up a bit some how. It's kind of lumpy and confusing. Maybe chronological? And then I guess part of my trouble with that part goes back to the context and background issue of where this is taking place, what the Enclave is, what their relation to humans is, and also what seraphs are, but I see that's linked so maybe it doesn't need to be explained.
- I'm trying to figure out the demographics and geography a bit, :) maybe a sentence or two of background would help? Or does that give away too much? I don't work much on this kind of plot summary or on fiction articles much, so that may be why I'm having difficulty. And I don't know what a stone mage is.
- I hope you don't feel that I'm being critical. It sounds like a very intersting book. I meant to read Clan of the Cave Bear (which I think is the same fantasy genre?) a while back, but never got around to it. So... I made this part small because Clan of the Cave Bear is described as historical fiction. SO I obviously don't have any idea what I'm talking about. I thought it was fantasy, but of course I did say I hadn't read the book. the closest I get is magical realism. Oh I did read something by that famous sci-fi woman writer whose name I can't think of at the moment, but that's not really fantasy either, I don't think. The Black Cauldron was one of my favorites as youngster, what genre is that? Arthurian legend or medieval fantasy or something I guess. What other books are in the neo mage series? Are they by this author or different authors? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:14, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's right. Clearer now? What is still confusing? If I can make it better I will. LadyofShalott 19:00, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I was confused where it said "where her own kind live (both as prison and sanctuary) because of the telepathy that threatened to drive her insane." I thought that meant that she was living with other telepathics. But I see that the Enclave is a place where other Mages live (her own kind) and she moved away to hide among humans? There are a few bits in there that still seem a bit confusing to me as someone unfamiliar with the book. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm surprised there is no article on jewelry making or jewelry makers. Isn't that a pretty notable profession and craft? I guess it's just covered in the jewelry article? ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh wait, there is one. Off to do redirects... It needs expansion and photos. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:20, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- (ec) No, these sound like reasonable questions. I think I have just taken care of end not being quite as expected bit - see what you think about the line I just added to the lead. It is earth, in the not-too distant future. I'll add something to clarify that. There are currently three books in the series, all by FH: Seraphs is the second, and the infobox reflects that fact; Host is the third. Giving away too much... I think the general consensus is we aren't really supposed to worry about that. :) Of course, I haven't told the ending of the book, which does not really fit our guidelines. If you ever feel like reading it, I do recommend it. LadyofShalott 19:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry about the ECs. :) I was trying not to edit the article itself since I figured you would be doing stuff there. I don't know what the MOS is on infoboxes and including that content in the text (I was reverted including height and weight of a football player in the article body...), but I think it's okay and a good idea to duplicate the information. Since there isn't, yet, an article on the series it would be nice to mention some information on the series, like how many books there are in it. The other way to go would be to merge this article into one on the whole series and then start adding info about the other books in it...
- I am also still hoping for a sentence or two on the demographics and geography (the layout so to speak). I'm not sure if you're doing that now... I'll go have a look. :) Are you into the vampire phenomenon: True Blood, the movie that's out and all? Is it worth noting where the name "bloodring" comes from? Also, I hate to nitpick, but some citations to reviews and such would be good... ;) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- (ec) No, these sound like reasonable questions. I think I have just taken care of end not being quite as expected bit - see what you think about the line I just added to the lead. It is earth, in the not-too distant future. I'll add something to clarify that. There are currently three books in the series, all by FH: Seraphs is the second, and the infobox reflects that fact; Host is the third. Giving away too much... I think the general consensus is we aren't really supposed to worry about that. :) Of course, I haven't told the ending of the book, which does not really fit our guidelines. If you ever feel like reading it, I do recommend it. LadyofShalott 19:25, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
That looks a lot better to me. I think an article on the series is the way to go. If it becomes unwieldy, articles on the books can always be broken out. An article on the Romantic Times would also be interesting. Despite the claims that "everything has been covered", I'm always overwhelmed by how much there is to work on. Thanks for letting me "help" with the article. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC) A link for mage to Magician (paranormal) (a practitioner of paranormal magic) or Magician (fantasy) (a practitioner of magic as portrayed in works of fiction) would be good. A short description of her powers might be good too. I know it's alluded to later with the stone mage mention. ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:37, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmmm... I'll have to look at those magician links and see which is more appropriate. I'm amazed that Romantic Times is a redlink - it should definitely get "blued". This will take some time to get into shape, but I think your comments and questions are helping - thanks. Oh, and to your earlier sideline question, yes I enjoy vampire (and various related sorts of characters) fiction. Actually, I was introduced to Faith Hunter's work when Kim Harrison introduced her on her yahoo group just before Bloodring came out. I've only watched one episode of True Blood, but I've read all of Charlaine Harris's books upon which the tv series is based. LadyofShalott 20:45, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
- Incidentally, Faith's newer series is about a skinwalker who hunts vampires. LadyofShalott 20:53, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
New Mail
You have new mail at user talk:morning277 reference Ricky Dobbs. Morning277 (talk) 01:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
RfA thankspam
Hello, ChildofMidnight! This is just a note thanking you for participating in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with a total of 93 support !votes, 1 oppose and 3 editors remaining neutral. While frankly overwhelmed by the level of support, I humbly thank the community for the trust it has placed in me, and vow to use the tools judiciously and without malice. KV5 (Talk • Phils) |
Tuna
Check this out. Drmies (talk) 03:33, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Silly. Reminds me of the whole "foam" fad. ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:00, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Re: Interview comment at User talk:Glane23
I was thinking about creating a seperate space for interviews but because we've only had one interview so far, I've just added it to the bottom User:Sky Attacker/Bacon WikiCup 2010. Do you think it would be good to put all the interviews on the Bacon Challenge page? I just think, by the end, we would have enough to have a single page or two for the interviews by themselves. Your thoughts?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 04:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Where it is now looks good. I think putting a link to it each time there is new one from the bacon challenge talk page is fine. I made a section and put a link there already for this one. Seems cool. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
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Danish Bacon
Have you or anyone else started Danish Bacon? I got some from the shop last week and cooked it. I took a photo while it was cooking. It could be used in the article.
.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 21:29, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Done Thanks! Drmies (talk) 21:42, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
check this out--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 22:08, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the redirect, Child! Drmies (talk) 00:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Since you don't have a U.S. politician topic ban.....
Maybe (or maybe not) you might like to create an article on this. Grundle2600 (talk) 22:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
- It seems interesting. I'm not sure if it's article worthy. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:22, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks for responding. Grundle2600 (talk) 16:09, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Good job and a question
Two things. Number 1, good job with that article (you now have your first 5 points on the table). Secondly, I notice people are automatically uploading articles to the mainspace. Are we still having a grand debut next year?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 01:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I just messed up. There should still be enough grease March 1 to clog Misplaced Pages's servers. It's unclear whether veggie bacon is bacon anyway. :) Don't worry. ChildofMidnight (talk) 02:01, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. In regards to creating bacon articles I wonder...--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 02:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- We are still having a grand debut, but some users would not like to have their pages sitting in their sandboxes for months to come, as by then someone else may create the article, and perhaps other problems I cannot think of (see User_talk:ChildofMidnight/Bacon_Challenge_2010#Bad_idea for discussion). Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- That's why I did it for Zeeuws spek - look what happened to The Lady? I have held the photos, but they are posted to Commons, per my usual practice, in addition to the Bacon WikiCup page, and anyway, those are intended for contestants to use for their articles or to illustrate existing articles. Geoff 13:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- We are still having a grand debut, but some users would not like to have their pages sitting in their sandboxes for months to come, as by then someone else may create the article, and perhaps other problems I cannot think of (see User_talk:ChildofMidnight/Bacon_Challenge_2010#Bad_idea for discussion). Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:17, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm. In regards to creating bacon articles I wonder...--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 02:07, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Smultring
Ref: Smultring
Hi TorSch. I saw your edit comment that Smultring are not doughnuts and I was wondering what you meant by that. If you can reply on my page it makes it easier for me not to miss it, but I will try to watch here. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
- Well, being a Norwegian I am well used to the Smultring. And as a current visitor in Kentucky, I'm also got used to the American Donuts. Though I should not deny the two are related, it is simply NOT the same thing. But for reasons of convenience we translate the smultring into donuts because they have at least some things in common. Did you ever taste a Norwegian smultring? Or - did you ever taste the latin-American link between the two, the Churro? The taste of the smultring is in the dough, and in the lard it's cooked in, while I find the donut to taste of the frosting or glace they are covered in.
- But mostly, my comment was made because in your wikipedia the two have got separate articles, which makes it easy for me to pick the interwiki connector. Just like a car is a car, a Ferrari is a Ferrari. --TorSch (talk) 18:53, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
sega Dreamcast
Hi there. The Sega Dreamcast picture is currently a valued picture candidate. Can you please go there and cast yur vote ASAP? Secret Saturdays (talk to me) 01:17, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Badushah
Here's a pic for the article you have trouble deciding what to do with. -SpacemanSpiff 03:46, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
User:Sky Attacker/Broadbent's
Would you be happy to work with me on this one? You must know how notable they are, it is surprising the apparent lack of coverage that they have for award-winning producers of fine country meats. I went through the first ten pages or so of a Google search but I had a hard time finding anything good. Do you have good access to newspapers or something that could be used to cite their awards? Cheers.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 07:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look at the talk page; I'll put some links up there. Drmies (talk) 19:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Didn't catch those links in my search - strange. I was almost going to give up altogether with these guys but I knew they deserved an article, as notable as they are. Cheers.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 23:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- I'll try to help out when I have some time. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. Didn't catch those links in my search - strange. I was almost going to give up altogether with these guys but I knew they deserved an article, as notable as they are. Cheers.--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 23:15, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
yak bak
You have a message from the Lady at User_talk:Drmies#Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- Two challenges at one time (bacon and doughnuts) are enough for me. Of course there are obvious synergies with chocolate. On the other hand, I'm not sure a cabal or contest is needed for chocolate, as it's already widely popular. LoS should have gotten to the Vosges subject matter sooner... (see below). Is chocolate as esoteric and scholarly as bacon and doughnuts? It seems fairly mainstream to me, so perhaps a Chocolate Project would be the way to go? 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
The dude was white!
Porque Madonna! Drmies (talk) 18:28, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
- This reminds of a Chappelle's Show bit... ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
M.W.D.
I've gotten the article draft Here as far as I could take it with all the reference sources I could find. I've asked Karanacs talk to come take a look and leave me notes on the article's discussion page Here. I need your input/advise on where I need to make adjusments. Can you leave your notes Here to for me to follow. Tinkermen (talk) 18:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
Question
Have you tried a bacon-flavored chocolate bar before? Do they taste any good?--Sky Attacker the legend reborn... 00:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- I haven't tried it or chocolate covered bacon. But I think Drmies may have. The User:Sky Attacker/Vosges (chocolatier) article looks quite interesting. I would be interested in someone trying them and reporting on the various flavors. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Numbering of hooks
Oops, my bad, I see what is meant now. Hope you are doing well. No worries, Cirt (talk) 19:29, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- No problem Cirt. I feel bad that's it's a little bit confusing with all the sections, but I hope people are enjoying the "challenge". I'm sort of awed by the level of interest. I was going to make a section for hooks that are nommed before March 1, but you beat me to it. Thanks. :) ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:35, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh no probs. Yea, it's been a lot of fun, I've learned a lot in the process of researching the three new articles I created so far. :P Cirt (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Those books give a whole new meaning to the phrase "light reading". ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Heh, indeed. Cirt (talk) 20:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Those books give a whole new meaning to the phrase "light reading". ChildofMidnight (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Oh no probs. Yea, it's been a lot of fun, I've learned a lot in the process of researching the three new articles I created so far. :P Cirt (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
23
Yeah I'm pretty sure the post season counts, I think they all own the record. These sources: all say 23, Harridges Air Force bio says 22, but that could be a mistake. Hope this helps.--Yankees10 21:17, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
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Vegetarian bacon...
Who would eat such a thing? Soxwon (talk) 04:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Regarding advise (sic) to Grundle
So where is your good faith advice to Grundle now that he was blocked again (indef.)? Too busy with bacon?The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 19:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
- My advice to Grundle would be to avoid trolls and disruptive admins. Speaking of which, I have not interest in conversing you. I find your behavior despicable. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:38, 13 December 2009 (UTC)