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== Procedure for admins == | == Procedure for admins == |
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Requested moves is used to request, and vote on, article moves that are not straightforward, or that require the assistance of Misplaced Pages administrators. (For simple uncontroversial moves, follow the advice at Help:Renaming (moving) a page instead; there is a tab at the top of every page for normal moves.)
For example, the proposed move may be controversial, or the "Move" function may not work (e.g. because the target exists, and has history; the move function will not overwrite such a target). Such moves should usually be discussed on the talk pages of any relevant articles first, particularly where a page move may be controversial.
Approval voting is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. Requested moves may be implemented if there is a Misplaced Pages community consensus (60% or more) supporting the moving of an article after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.
- Technical expertise may be needed to merge edit histories, e.g. when an article has been 'moved' via a cut and paste move; see #History merges below for how to handle such cases.
- To merge two articles, please make a request at Misplaced Pages:Proposed mergers instead of here.
- This is not the proper place to request the "moving" of images or categories. See below for more information.
Instructions
First, note that many page moves may be accomplished by any logged in user by using the move button at the top of the user interface (see the help page). Requested moves is intended only for moves that either may be disputed, so that consensus should be obtained before the move, or that require administrator involvement because the intended new location also has a page history.
Please see #Relevant policies and guidelines if you are unsure whether a page move is appropriate.
To request a page move, follow this three-step process:
(replace PageName with the name of the page to be moved and NewName with your proposed name)
I. | Add the request to the list on this page To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Current discussions subsection, if it has not already been added for this day. Today is December 25, 2024.
To enter a request for a single page to be moved to a new name, add a line at the top of the section under the date line:
A handy way to do this is to write the following on an empty line:
which will include all the necessary formatting (do not forget the "subst:"). For more complicated requests see #Multiple page moves for formatting suggestions. Include the page's name in your edit summary. Save this page. |
II. | Add the move template to talk page.
Enter the following text at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved:
If you want a page to be moved, but don't yet know what name it should be given, you can use {{moveoptions}} instead to indicate that there are several options to discuss. |
III. | Create a place for discussion
If one does not already exist, create a section on the talk page of the page you want moved for discussion. This can take any form that is reasonable for administrators to follow, but copying the following is suggested: ==Requested move== The reasons for move copied from the entry on the ] page ===Discussion=== If you are proposing that multiple closely related pages should all be moved for the same reason (see #Multiple page moves), it may be advisable to create this discussion on only a single talk page and provide links from the other talk pages to this centralized discussion. Please include "move proposal" or similar in the edit summary and don't mark it as minor. Consider checking the "Watch this page" box to follow the page in your watchlist. Save the page. |
What to do on the article page
If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial, for example, it is correcting spelling or capitalisation, update the article reflecting the title it should have (for example, the article is at My Dog but should be at My dog, change the opening sentence to '''My dog''' is furry.). The template CapitalMove is also available, see Category:Requested capitalization moves.
Current discussions
Please list new requests at the top of today's section (December 25) in the format described above. Actual discussions should take place on the listed talk page, not here.
December 30 2005
- Talk:RPGe (translation group) — RPGe (translation group) → RPGe – RPGe is merely a redirect with minor history. No other article exists to provide ambiguity. — Frédéric Brière (✎) 01:34, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Unaussprechlichen Kulten (Cthulhu mythos) — Unaussprechlichen Kulten (Cthulhu mythos) → Unaussprechlichen Kulten – Please see talk page.
-,-~~-,- 00:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC) - Talk:John5 -- John5 → John Lowery
- Talk:John Chapter 5 -- John Chapter 5 → John 5
- John 5, and John Lowery now redirect to John5, John Lowery's stage name.
- This move would make the titles of the articles on Bible chapters more uniform, see for example John 1, John 2.
December 29 2005
- Talk:Zita of Bourbon-Parma – Zita of Bourbon-Parma → Zita of Bourbon-Parma – {Zita was of the house of Bourbon and princess of Parma, not a hyphenation of the two. I believe that she should be placed at Zita of Bourbon of Parma with the common, but incorrect, Zita of Bourbon-Parma redirecting to the former. It is more accurate and that way browsers of Misplaced Pages will learn the correct name. All members of the ducal house use "de Bourbon de Parme" in French and other variants equalling "of Bourbon of Parma"} — Charles 22:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:O97.3 - O97.3 -> CFJO-FM because American and Canadian radio stations go at their callsigns, not their brand names. Georgia guy 22:20, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Politics_of_Venezuela – Politics_of_Venezuela → Government_of_Venezuela – Politics_of_Venezuela should be copied in part or moved to Government_of_Venezuela. I would like to suggest moving the article to Government of Venezuela. What I see on similar pages, is that the Government page deals with the administration, function, authority, organization, and the system of the governing body. While Politics deals more with the activities, affairs, methods, tactics, engaged in or managed by the government. In other words, the Government page should deal with the structure of the bureaucracy, while the politics page can discuss the heated political climate in Venezuela. what do others think? - Spaceriqui 20:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Carden → Carden → Carden Aero Engines – {"Carden" itself should be a disambiguation page, and the Content from Carden moved to Carden Aero Engines} — WoodyWerm 20:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- ICANN → Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers as its the full name of the org it should be used. Currently orl redirect prevents move change by users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephf (talk • contribs) -- WhiteNight 17:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Weyl curvature — Weyl curvature → Weyl tensor
- From WP:RFD: Weyl tensor should not be redirected to Weyl curvature because similar articles are named blah tensor and because Weyl tensor is more common in literature than Weyl curvature or even Conformal curvature ---CH 19:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Los Angeles, California — Los Angeles, California → Los Angeles – The debate surrounding the naming conventions notwithstanding, "Los Angeles" already redirects there, but unlike many US cities, the majority of articles already link to the simplified name. Jibbajabba 07:33, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Nuovo Cinema Paradiso — Nuovo Cinema Paradiso → Nuovo cinema Paradiso – this would be the correct captialization for the film. However, Nuovo cinema Paradiso is already in use as a redirect to the main page Steve-O 07:21, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Jr. Pac Man — Jr. Pac Man → Jr. Pac-Man – All the other Pac-Man articles include a hyphen, so Jr. Pac-Man should as well. However, a page already exists under that name (a copy 'n' paste which I reverted), but most of the history for this article can be found at "Jr. Pac Man" (without the hyphen). Birdhombre 02:52, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:M-5 rocket — M-5 rocket → M-V – Page history of the redirect (M-V) perhaps prevents from moving. Marsian / talk 06:47, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Ethnic minorities in China - Ethnic minorities in China → Nationalities of China - "Nationality" is the official term used by the Chinese government. Also, the Han count as a nationality, and they aren't a minority. Also, the nationalities don't correspond exactly to ethnicity. Even though the page was recently moved, I can't seem to move it back, so need an administrator to do it. --Yuje 10:37, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- This is an official mess :
- Ethnic minorities in China and Nationalities of China nwo redirect to each other
- The real article is I think at Ethnic minorities China, but the article name makes no sense to me...
WhiteNight 21:48, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
December 28 2005
- Talk:Brian Harris (wrestler) — Brian Harris (wrestler) → Brian Lee – He has used the ring name "Brian Lee" consistently since 1988. Moving this page will enable easier linking to the article and will eliminate the need for a suffixing qualifier. McPhail 00:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Balinese Tiger – Balinese Tiger → Bali Tiger – I think the latter is a lot more common. There are 10,100 Google hits for "Bali Tiger" and only 774 for "Balinese Tiger". --Khoikhoi 20:22, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Guildford (disambiguation) → Guildford - I'm trying to turn a primary-topic disambiguation into an equal disambiguation --Smack (talk) 20:18, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Note: discussion started on Talk:Guildford. sjorford (talk) 23:37, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:William Moody (wrestler) – William Moody (wrestler) → Percy Pringle – Moody's professional name is Percy Pringle, as adopted from one of his ring names. — Chadbryant 18:20, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Military tactic: Military tactic→Military tactics — This is about the subject of tactics, not about a tactic. —Michael Z. 2005-12-28 17:32 Z
- Talk:Chad-Sudan conflict – Chad-Sudan conflict → Chad-Sudan War – disputed over whether or not some military action makes this a war — Wikizach 02:47, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Jeisa – Jeisa → Jeisa_Chiminazzo – {more complete name} — Drakulta 04:58, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Football World Cup — Football World Cup → FIFA World Cup – template was added to the talk page today, previous discussions failed to reach consensus Conscious 12:26, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:The Academy Is – The Academy Is → The Academy Is... – The actual nomenclature for the band's name includes the "..." — HarryCane 16:26, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
December 27 2005
- Talk:Hunting Methods — Hunting Methods → Hunting strategy – WP naming convention 1.1, "capitalize only first word" -MPD 00:07, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Tier 2 Carrier – Tier 2 Carrier → Tier 2 carrier – proper capitalization — Ashibaka tock 21:46, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Donny Baker — Donny Baker → Donnie Baker – The official website spells it as donnie. 67.142.130.31 20:25, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Victoria station (London) — Victoria station (London) → Victoria station – Primary use. Mrsteviec 19:52, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Fried sauce noodles — Fried sauce noodles → Zhajiang mian – move to Chinese name, as the English name is not generally used or known Badagnani 09:17, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:John Madden (football) — John Madden (football) → John Madden – I've already moved the previous article "John Madden" to John Madden (disambiguation). This John Madden is far better known, and has a far more developed article, than any other person with the same name. --zenohockey 05:45, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Ogryns — Ogryns → Ogryn – The Ogryn page is a redirect to the Imperial Guard article, which, following its recent rewrite, contains no information on Ogryns.
December 26 2005
- Talk:Gibson — Gibson → Gibson Guitar Corporation – "Gibson" by itself should rediredct to the Gibson (disambiguation) page, and the content from Gibson moved to Gibson Guitar Corporation, which is now just a redirect to Gibson Realkyhick 19:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Communist Party of Yugoslavia — Communist Party of Yugoslavia → League of Communists of Yugoslavia – SKJ was the name used 1952-1990, i.e. during the major part of its governance. -- Soman 15:13, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Mlungu salitsani malawi — Mlungu salitsani malawi → Mlungu dalitsani Malawi – Mlungu salitsani Malawi gets more Google hits than dalitsani but all the ones that actually show the lyrics have dalitsani, also Malawi should probably be capitalised. - Home Row Keysplurge 14:04, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:VIA_C4 → VIA_C3 The C4 was never released - it was a planned clone of the P4 that got cancelled, because the high clock speed methodology became discredited, due to thermal issues. VIA found small, cheap, low power, a more marketable proposition. Merge to VIA_C3 which already covers this matter. Timharwoodx 10:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Æther (disambiguation) — Æther (disambiguation) → Æther – The target is a redirect to the disambiguation page. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 07:45, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:A linear functional which is not continuous — A linear functional which is not continuous → Non-continuous linear functional – -- Esprit15d 17:21, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
December 25 2005
- Talk:Rhodesian Man - Rhodesian Man → Homo rhodesiensis - Talk:Homo rhodesiensis --69.214.220.116 23:59, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Leonardo of Pisa — Leonardo of Pisa → Fibonacci – Common name in scientific literature, see for example Fibonacci numbers --Francis Schonken 17:26, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Electronic components – Electronic components → Electronic component – Per Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (plurals). Can't do it myself because Electronic component used to redirect somewhere else. —Caesura 16:13, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
- Talk:Free game software — Free game software → List of free game software – This article is basically a list, with the list redirecting to the article. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 03:41, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Old discussions
Place here discussions which have been active for more than 5 days. Remove them once dealt with.
December 18 2005
- Talk:Van (road vehicle) — Van (road vehicle) → Van – Since Van almost always means the vehicle, and what 99% of the ambiguous uses of Van on Misplaced Pages are talking about, then it should be the main article. This has been discussed briefly on Talk:Van (disambiguation). Currenlty, Van redirects to Van (disambiguation) which is bad convention, and Van (vehicle) points to Van (road vehicle), and "(road vehicle)" is bad convention, too. I will be more than happy to fix the links from "Van (road vehicle)" to "Van" with a box or popup-assisted thingy. I'll then put in a request to delete "(vehicle)" and "(road vehicle)" articles. —Camaro96 06:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
- There is a 3 to 1 vote in Support of this move. —Camaro96 15:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- Actually, looking at the talk page of the disambig page there appears to be even greater support for the move. However, the disambig page needs a good look at and may need a selective article history merge due to a cut n' paste move. WhiteNight 21:30, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- There is a 3 to 1 vote in Support of this move. —Camaro96 15:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
December 17, 2005
- Talk:657 Gunlod — 657 Gunlod → 657 Gunlöd, 751 Faina → 751 Faïna, 775 Lumiere → 775 Lumière – the correct names have diacritics.--Jyril 12:44, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
December 12, 2005
- Talk:Gusev crater — Gusev crater → Gusev crater (Russia) and then move Gusev (Martian crater) → Gusev crater, since Gusev crater on Mars is obviously much frequently linked than the one with the same name on Earth. — Yaohua2000 17:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
- Consensus to move, just a bit tricky due to redirects... WhiteNight 20:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
December 11, 2005
- Talk:Wizard of Oz-Dark Side of the Moon Synchronicity — Wizard of Oz-Dark Side of the Moon Synchronicity → open for discussion – The term synchronicity represents a biased POV on this topic. omphaloscope:talk 18:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
- The Alternative Factor → The Alternative Factor (TOS episode) —
the bulk ofall content (consistent with that in all other Star Trek ep articles) is in the former article, but the other article was created afterwards, likely with Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Star Trek#Articles naming conventions in mind (and hence this request to move). Essentially now, the two need to be swapped: i.e., the content and history should be moved to ..TOS.. and the former made into a redirect. E Pluribus Anthony 08:48, 11 December 2005 (UTC) - Talk:Wizard of Oz-Dark Side of the Moon Synchronicity — Wizard of Oz-Dark Side of the Moon Synchronicity → Dark Side of the Rainbow – The term synchronicity represents a biased POV on this topic.
December 5, 2005
- Talk:Liberals for Forests — Liberals for Forests → Liberals for forests – Registered name of this political party is liberals for forests (uncapitalised). See and . {{wrongtitle}} tag added to article to reflect limitation on naming with first letter as lower case. — Ian ≡ talk 16:00, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'm a bit uneasy with this one,
I've asked another editor of the pages to chime inI've asked a couple more to chime in WhiteNight 01:47, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'm a bit uneasy with this one,
Procedure for admins
It is important to check to see if the redirect has major history; major history contains information about the addition of current text. (This is sometimes caused by the accidental creation of a duplicate article, or someone doing a cut-and-paste "move", instead of using the "Move this page" button.) Never simply delete such redirect pages, (which we need to keep for copyright reasons).
Major history
There are three ways to deal with a page move with a major history:
- The "right" way is to merge the histories, using the procedure outlined at Misplaced Pages:How to fix cut and paste moves. This is a slightly fraught procedure, which on rare occasions doesn't work correctly. There are also circumstances (for example duplicate pages) where it's not the correct choice anyway. Once done, it cannot easily be undone, so don't pick this option unless it's definitely the right one. You can request history merges at Misplaced Pages:Cut and paste move repair holding pen.
- Alternatively, the article and the redirect can be swapped. This leaves the bifurcated history, but has less chance of causing problems. Simply move one of the pair to a temporary name, and then delete the new redirect which that move will left behind at the original location; next, move the other page of the pair across to the first one's old location, and delete that left-over new redirect; finally, move the first one from its temporary location to its new name. You will then need to delete the new redirect at the temporary location, and finally fix the old redirect to point at the article again (at this point, it will be pointing to itself).
- Another option is for redirect pages with major history to be archived into a talk namespace, and a link to them put into the article's talk page. (An example of such a page is a Talk:Network SouthEast, which was originally created as a duplicate article at Network SouthEast and later archived, when the original article was moved from Network South East.)
Minor history
A minor history on the other hand contains no information, for example the redirect page Eric Tracy has a minor history but Eric Treacy (which incidentally is the correct spelling) could not be moved there because of a spelling mistake in the original page. Redirect pages with minor histories can simply be deleted.
Tidying up
Whichever of these various options you take, moving pages will create double redirects in any redirects that pointed to the original page location. These must be fixed; click on the "What links here" button of the new page location to check for them. It is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these, though periodically a bot will fix any you miss.
When you complete an entry on this page (whether the move was accepted or rejected), don't forget to remove the {{move}} tag from the talk page and if a discussion on the move exists on the talk page please add and sign a comment to indicate whether the move was accepted or rejected. Also, remove the entry from this page (do not simply strike it through).
It's worth periodically checking either Category:Requested_moves or here to see if any pages missed this step. Checking either of these regularly has the side-benefit of finding pages where people added the {{Move}} tag to the page, but didn't realize they needed to edit WP:RM as well.
Admins volunteering to do tidying tasks should watch this page for new notices.
History merges
There are two ways to deal with required merges of a copy/paste move which cannot be done right away.
One is to list the pages involved at Misplaced Pages:Cut and paste move repair holding pen.
The other is to move the history to /history and use {{pending merge}}. For example, Bicycle Thieves was moved to Bicycle Thieves/history and {{pending merge|Bicycle Thieves}} placed on the article. This also adds Category:Pending merge, all of which will be done later.
Additional notes
Multiple page moves
For single page moves with more than one option for the destination name:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved to new page or new page two etc -- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
For block moves:
- Talk:page to be moved -- page to be moved 1 to target page 1
- ...
- page to be moved n to target page n
- {brief reason for move} -- ~~~~
An example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:The Levellers -- Levellers to Levellers (disambiguation)
- The Levellers to Levellers
- the word "The" should be removed from the Levellers page. -- ~~~~
Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:
- Talk:Third world -- First world to First World,
- Second world to Second World and
- Third world to Third World
- This was a move made earlier in the year as a block move, after listing on this page because all three were blocked by edits to the target pages -- ~~~~
Relevant policies and guidelines
PLEASE NOTE:
- Many moves can be accomplished by a registered user without administrator assistance by using the "Move this page" button.
- Requested moves is not the proper place to request renaming images or categories.
- To rename a category see Misplaced Pages:Categories for deletion:How to use this page point 5.
- To rename an image. re-upload the image with the name you want, change the links on the relevant pages then delete the old one with a request to Misplaced Pages:Images and media for deletion.
- It is also possible to ask an administrator to intervene directly see Misplaced Pages:Requests for administrator attention (and possibly Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard for troublesome cases).
In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Misplaced Pages policies and guidelines:
- Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions
- Misplaced Pages:Proper names
- Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style
- Misplaced Pages:Disambiguation
- Misplaced Pages:Neutral point of view
- Misplaced Pages:Don't disrupt Misplaced Pages to illustrate a point
- Misplaced Pages:How to hold a consensus vote
- Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Rivers
- If a river page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Rivers/Naming#Requested_moves
- Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Numbers
- If a number page is to be moved, add a mention of the move under Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Numbers#Requested moves
- Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (names and titles)
- If European monarchical titles or noble titles are involved, add a mention of the move under Misplaced Pages talk:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Requested moves