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Baffled

Why on earth did you make this report at AVI? At the time of the report, they'd only made one edit, had recieved one warning for it, and that's it. Is there something else, sock concerns etc, that you need to me to look into? GedUK  13:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus 23:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

RE: Taking things personally

OK, this is the last I will say on this topic, cause it is boring the hell outta me and we both have better things to do than getting in a pissing match.

Please don't say something is "my article"...I don't WP:OWN articles, I just create them. Even if it is a small stub like WBQK or a "Start" article like WINC-FM, I take great pride in my work and enjoy what I do.

I wasn't discussing religion with you, it is a figure of speech. "Running all over God's creation" is the same as saying "Running all over town". No religious involvment, just a little southern twang added.

To be big point of your post...my rudeness. I do believe we both were being rude and snapping at each other. I don't think either of us were being particularly nice to one another and we were both being pretty territorial. I personally don't think bringing up two uninvolved blocks was necessary, whatever...but we were both being rude and snapping back. I think we both owe each other an apology. Let me start...I'm sorry. Should have said it last night, but normally I get stuck in my headstrong ways I won't back down from something. Normally it takes sleep to give fresh eyes.

I do believe you could have made three bad mistakes, but it still worries me. You are a good editor, whether you like me anymore or not, you are. It would worry me if any good editor started goofing up. What I should have done is asked if you needed someone to talk to, not crawl in your ass (another figure of speech, kinda like saying jumping down your throat) for something that was taking care of quite quickly.

I have been on a Wikibreak for the past couple months. It has served me well. A few editors emailed me and asked me to come back, at their asking, and a couple people on my talk page, I did. I am still in semi-retirement cause I am not ready to be fully back, maybe one day. So I have been on a personally mandated Wikibreak. It does give fresh eyes.

But whether you don't like me anymore, that is no sweat of my back. If ya do, ya do, if ya don't, ya don't...it doesn't bother me. Hell, if me and a good friend did that everytime we disagreed or got snippy, we wouldn't be Facebook buddies. But if you never like me again, it really doesn't bother me, just don't let it consume you. Another user and I used to HATE each other and now we have a working relationship, wouldn't call it a friendship, but we can talk without pouncing on each other immediately.

Hopefully this explains somethings...need something spoken upon a little better, I will make an attempt to, but in less words....these long posts are hard to type and even harder to read. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 15:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus 23:04, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Edit summaries are not discussion

Rather than these snippy edit summaries, you could have taken this to talk yourself. Without a test case, exactly how are people supposed to surmise what you mean by "it mixes with text"? Edit summaries are not discussion pages: they are easily missed and impossible to properly reply to. If you want to put something on talk explaining exactly what's broken I'll be happy to help, but the world did not seem to explode last month when the template was edited. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 15:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus 23:27, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Please don't bite

I'm stunned at your attempt to CSD the Drolz comment page. No names are mentioned. In your original MfD, it is clear you misunderstood the page. It wasn't a collection of statements by Drolz, it was a collection of statements hurled at Drolz. I don't think the vitriol has reached the level that pages need deletion, but if anyone should be admonished it is the person making the statements, not the target. Drolz is still a relative newcomer, and the MfD and CSD look like classic examples of WP:BITE. Has anyone (other than myself) tried to help Drolz understand what should and should not be on a user page? Looks to me like some don't like his POV about GW issues, so are trying to make his life miserable. I hope I'm wring, but I don't know how one could reach a different conclusion.--SPhilbrickT 22:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus 23:57, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your comment on Sphilbrick's talkpage, Dae. "How would you like it, if I took several things you said, out of context, posted them to my userpage, and said they were amusing? How would you like it, if, after you requested I remove said quotes, I denied your request, several times." This seems to be the real crux of the issue: that is, Viriditas doesn't like what I am doing. Just like he didn't like that I initially quoted him in the Climategate discussion and showed that his comments were incompatible with his adamant opposition to splitting the page. I don't like that he aggressively threatened me with blocking any time I tried to make improvements to that page (Which is a disaster, currently, but one that Viri and the three or four other editors who own the page like). I also don't like that a page about a developing issue has been locked, which seems totally absurd to me. Why is it that things Viriditas doesn't like translate into administrative action against me? Why should I just do whatever this user tells me to? Drolz 02:27, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus 03:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

It's not a list of misdeeds, or deeds at all for that matter. It would have to include contextual descriptions of the action along with an explanation of why they constituted wrongdoing. Nothing like that is on the page. Drolz 03:57, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus 04:09, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but an unattributed quotation is not a perceived flaw. A flaw is some sort of defect or shortcoming. For one thing, it would have to be a flaw in something, and that page doesn't list any such subject. Lacking this, for those to be recorded "perceived flaws," it would at least have to be a flaw relative to something, like a deviation from the norm. But no such norm or "bar" is given for comparison. I just don't see any way in which that page fits the prohibited description. Drolz 04:15, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page.— Dædαlus 04:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Viriditas

Viriditas has now increased his harassment and is repeatedly moving and deleting my (not at all PA, etc.) posts on another user's talkpage. Drolz 06:10, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

On the contrary. Drolz is wikihounding me on talk pages that have nothing to do with him and on discussions that do not concern him. I've asked him to stop, and he refuses. Viriditas (talk) 06:23, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

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A quesiton about material allowed on userpages

here you said, "The userpage, or userspace, is not to be used to house a list of misdeeds of another user, unless it is going to be used in dispute resolution, such as RfC."

An aside, before I ask my question, I tried to provide dispute resolution in that incident, but my involvement was based upon my assumption that Drolz was concerned about being blocked, and wanted to assemble evidence should that occur. Turns out my fears were right, he was blocked, but he wasn't amassing Vir quotes for that reason, so I dropped out of the discussion.

I can understand why WP would want to discourage collections of misdeeds, but I can also understand why prohibiting it might equally be a problem. I haven't reached my own conclusions on what the policy should be.

Back to my question (after pointing out that I am familiar with WP:OSE)—do you think this page is compliant with or a violation of the policy statement you made?

I'm not about to waste my time proposing it for MfD, but I am interested in whether you can distinguish that page from the page of Drolz, which you felt should be deleted.--SPhilbrickT 15:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)