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Why did you allow the 2-6-2009 revert on early crops in Africa?
Do you no longer believe your comments here: http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Neolithic#Africa_.26_pdf_on_AMS_dating (Your pdf link does not seem to work at the above link by the way)
This is the section: http://en.wikipedia.org/Neolithic#Africa
Full Shunyata gives no reason for his reverts and his latest footnote contains no source material. http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Special:Contributions&offset=20090207025755&target=Full+Shunyata
- I'll look at this tonight or tomorrow, busy today. Dougweller (talk) 06:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
In Shunta's user talk 2/5/09 in his lowest entry the bottom line he does list a source but it contradicts the early early cultivation dates Shunta gives. P. 70-71 "The Cambridge History of Africa", http://books.google.com/books?id=JAca1F3qG34C&pg=PA70&lpg=PA70&dq=Africa,+neolithic&source=web&ots=wWVGAvbwDC&sig=oLsfZADAq2fplcionxe5hXjBgXw&hl=en&ei=V8GKSaSbO9eitge6-eibBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result#v=onepage&q=Africa%2C%20neolithic&f=false
I am now thinking the section should begin:
Africa
In the upper Nile Valley Africans begun raising and domesticating crops and cattle about 7,000 years ago....
In sub Saharan Africa the cultivation begins about 80BC
Given that you had said Van Sertima was unreliable the early 15,000 BCE pottery date supported in footnote 7 may be inaccurate as well.
7^ (Van Sertima, 1984, p. 20)
http://en.wikipedia.org/Neolithic#Periods_by_pottery_phase
Footnote 8 - African Science in School Curriculum also supporting the same pottery date is based entirely on the oral tradition which naturally would be less likely to preserve well over time than pottery itself. A search on "pottery" leads to the following paragraph:
Alic (1986, p. 15) bases her claims on the assumption that "...evidence from the early scientific work of women can be traced..." from "oral traditions." Alic (1986, p. 15) goes on to say that Neolithic women were often thought to be possessed of magical powers, not only because of their ability to give birth, but also because of their skills in the domestic sciences - manufacturing, pottery, agriculture, the domestication of animals and healing. It was these achievements that early cultures personified in their goddesses.
- Sorry to be so slow - thanks very much in bringing this to my attention and I hope the article is a bit better now. And apologies for missing what happened earlier this year. Dougweller (talk) 06:33, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Certainly the article is much improved. Thanks. Finding reliable sources is a lot more time consuming than spotting errors. Merry Christmas.
ANI Reply....`
Re : You have a single word? It's probably a good thing that Leviathan, Talk:Young Earth creationism, Plato, and Talk:Free will are all climate articles. Otherwise one would be strongly pushed towards either "unbelievably stupid and irresponsible", or "unscrupulous dishonest shill". --Stephan Schulz (talk) 13:50, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
- Or two words, 'blatant lie(s)'. Dougweller (talk) 16:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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Hello Doug, I've been on something of a mini-hiatus from wikipedia, but just wanted to drop by and wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas. Take care and best in the new year. MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Why you delete Eurasia (the Thai power metal page)
They are famouse in Thailand but They are not known in world wide so I wrote thier page to support them and let other people in the world know them. Metal band here is great but most of people in Thailand not much support them and thier it's not hae other way to introduce them because Myspace just put out Thailand music charts and if there is no page to introduce them how can people in other country know them and search for them in youtube.
Please help them and other band in these undevelop country around this area by let me write information about them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motellaman (talk • contribs) 04:12, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
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Can you stop User:Pmanderson's personal attacks?
see here. and here. There are also earlier examples, but this one is over the edge. He has no respect for his fellow editors.Teeninvestor (talk) 23:42, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
- You reported it at elsewhere, that's enough and after a report at the appropriate noticeboard I wouldn't normally get involved directly, and I agree with the comments. Dougweller (talk) 06:30, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
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HIV - Cyrus Sullivan
Doug:
I've tried to gently explain to User:Cyrussullivan that the site he's linking to does not conform to WP:BLP(See both our talk pages for our dialogue). His response, on my talk page:
"Manway, in order for a website to be an attack site it must contain malicious software. Did you receive a malicious software notice from that site? You are citing policies about the content of Misplaced Pages articles, not pages linked to from those articles. Placing a link to a list is not the same as writing a biography about a living person or altering a biography already written. I feel that you are letting your are letting your philosophical objections to the websites fraud policy govern your decision making. You seem more concerned with hurting the website than whether or not the link is relevant to the article. I am going to air on the side of public safety and restore my edit. I can guarantee you that every HIV/AIDS criminal arrest record on that website is accurate and that the list is the most comprehensive list of AIDS criminals that can be found in one place. The fraud policy for user reports is for another section and is completely irrelevant. Do us both a favor and don't waste time by perpetuating a game of back and forth editing."
As you are an administrator, could you please help our friend out? He seems sincere, but misguided. Thanks and Merry Christmas.
ETA: I have a strange feeling he may be a sock of Takashihirohito, who is using the same site in his one edit so far.
Regards, --Manway (talk) 06:47, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- Gave him a final warning (too many ads also on that site). I'll keep an eye on the other account. Dougweller (talk) 08:25, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Reliability of the Criminal HIV Transmission Section of STD Carriers
I posted a response to the debate regarding the reliability of my list of People Arrested for Criminal HIV/AIDS Transmission Crimes. My argument basically boils down to the fact that I compiled that sub list myself from media research and can vouch for it's accuracy. I also sited sources in the reports linked to from that page. I believe that a link to it belongs in Criminal transmission of HIV because my list is 10 times larger than the list currently on Misplaced Pages at List of HIV Positive People.
No one has brought up the issue of conflict of interest, but I don't see one since as of now I have a monopoly in the area of comprehensive lists of people arrested for HIV/AIDS transmission crimes. I also never intended to vandalize Misplaced Pages, if that were the case I probably would have posted dozens of links all over the place.
I also don't recall ever seeing a set limit on the amount of advertising that a page being linked to can have. Please specify a maximum number of ads preferably by type (banner, inline, etc.), maximum number per type, and the maximum of all types combined.
See the debate in Reliable Sources
You also deleted my link in the Jakes Booty Call Article to my collection of Jakes Booty Call games that like the other sites in the external links section contain the same games and include advertising, but are inferior to mine because I provide embed code for webmasters that is compatible with Myspace and other social networking sites.--Cyrussullivan (talk) 11:13, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
- None of this overrides WP:BLP. And if it is your site, as you say, you shouldn't be adding it anyway. I don't think you are trying to vandalise. As for ads, all I can do is point you to WP:EL. We don't have that sort of detail, but it is clearly ad heavy. As this is primarily a BLP issue I'm bringing it up there - I didn't want to as we really try not to encourage issues being brought up at multiple boards, but since you are pushing it... . I'll put a link on your page. Dougweller (talk) 11:21, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
Good point about the multiple boards, I am also an efficiency enthusiast. I also agree with you about some parts of the site being ad heavy, but a lot of that comes with the fact that the site is not finished yet and I am testing out different ad networks. This became necessary after Google AdSense terminated my account (a long story, but basically they had approved the site with the issues surrounding the BLP debate, changed their mind later, and after a lot of badgering finally paid me for earned clicks). The Google experience gave me the idea of trying out competing networks and then writing reviews at some point. One thing I do plan on is making the presence of skyscrapers on the bottom half of search grids dependent on row count and in the case of the carrier report profiles dependent on text length in relation to the explanation and other fields combined with the presence of pictures, video and comments.
In the interest of efficiency I will focus my reliability arguments on the section you started about the reliability my website as a source, but first I have some general questions:
1. In the case of Jake's Booty Call you are applying the WP:BLP Policy to a part of the website that has nothing to do with living persons. Like any site with a diverse variety of content (like You Tube that you allow) I don't believe that one section should apply to the site as a whole. My site is segregated into many different areas. For instance my video section features the largest collection of STD videos online (that I know of) compiled from video sharing sites using the source URL of each stream allowing any online flash video to be added. I don't think you will find a larger selection of Herpes and HIV/AIDS videos anywhere. My question is that if You Tube pages can be added as external links and You Tube videos can and frequently contain content that violates WP:BLP why can't my gaming, video, and in the case of Rick Rolling my 9 videos starting at once with a full page ad Rick Roll be added?
2. Surely my Rick Roll is the most annoying of all Rick Rolls. Is it not also relevant to your Annoying, Nuisance, and Abomination articles regardless of what site created it?
3. Joking aside RipOffReport.com and DontDateHimGirl.com as well as the now offline RottenNeighbor.com have articles. My website has received a great deal of publicity including a very misleading and censored story available at CNN.com as well as additional stories from various local news organizations across the country including KVAL 13 in Eugene Oregon, Illinois Home Page, NBC 4 in Columbus, Ohio, CBS 5 in Phoenix, and others. Why not have an article about STDCarriers.com?
In closing I respect as well as like Misplaced Pages. I use it as a starting point for a lot research that I do. It obviously has a much better arrangement then I do for regulating user created content that can change at any time. If you object to my linking to the STD Videos and Rick Roll pages I apologize. They are there for your convenience and I am well aware that they don't influence page rank. I use “rel no follow” on some of my pages although I prefer to use the AJAX ConfirmButtonExtender for user created links to discourage search engine spamming.
P.S. I believe that without the outer ring of letters and my biohazard symbol in the middle that I may have recently created the most historically inclusive National Symbol/Emblem of France with this image . If it were up to me it would be on Misplaced Pages already, but I think I already know the answer to the question I want to ask. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyrussullivan (talk • contribs) 09:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Editing Richard Isaac Fine
Thanks for your comments.
On dishonesty - it was possibly an uncool comment, but it was truthful.
When a person is charged with a crime, or in this case violation of a code of conduct, there are sections, and they have names to them. When an editor first removes the true name of the code section, and then enters instead words that may have appeared somewhere, but were not the name of any code section, or for that matter any part of any code, that is dishonest.
However, as stated in the discussion page, I had the "moment of clarity" today, when I saw that Montclair Plaza is going to be probably kept as an entry in wikipedia, while any mention of human rights atrocities in Katrina were censored out, and now Richard Fine information is dishonestly changed... There were other similar changes today, so in total the dishonest editing count is four:
(a) The charge claimed by the state bar - which indeed was the grounds for his false disbarment - of "Moral Turpitude" was replaced by words that do not conform to any section of the code;
(b)The fact that he was a former US prosecutor was deleted as insignificant;
(c) The fact that the payments to ALL Los Angeles judges which he uncovered required the convoluted "retroactive immunities" to be issued by enacting a dubious law...was deleted
(d) The fact that in jail he was denied access to pen and paper, so that he could not write, and he could not sign either the habeas corpus or 9th circuit court petition- was deleted.
What could I say - since the Age of Enlightenment and the French Encyclopedists, such projects defined their time and place. There is no doubt that wikipedia defines our times in the USA. Diderot would role in his grave...:) InproperinLA (talk) 01:12, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, the majority of the stuff you mentioned above was "deleted" because it was not supported by reliable, third-party sources. That's all, there's no big conspiracy here, I swear. 98.233.249.17 (talk) 01:24, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
That ANI post
Is it proper for the subject of this ANI post to place a {{resolved}} template in the reply posting before any other admin has gotten a chance to look at it? Just asking because it looked weird (and disruptive) to me. Moogwrench (talk) 07:29, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks. You're right, that was a bad idea of his. Dougweller (talk) 11:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
Apology
I am going on my wikibreak, but before I go I would like to apologize for some of my behaviour, which I regret. When I return, I will not edit the article incubator.Teeninvestor (talk) 22:52, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Pre-Siberian American Aborigines
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FUCK YOU TOO!!!! u all are the same fucking christians!!!! u dont decide my countrys name!!!! This is Turkish Republic of Northern CYPRUS.... FUCK YOU!!!! Now do your fucking job and block me u fucking christian!Sultaniman (talk) 10:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC)