Misplaced Pages

Revision as of 01:35, 30 December 2009

User:The Ogre is busy in real life and may not respond swiftly to queries.

Archives

Talk Page•Archive1•Archive 2

Images

Please explain how you have deemed images of landmarks to be 'inappropriate' to an article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.14.180 (talk) 15:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

An extra two images especially on the porto page will not jeopardise the integrity of wikipedia!!! thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.14.180 (talk) 15:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

ALERT!!! PLEASE HELP!!!

Please help!! There is a vandal vandalising the Ferrol entry his user name is User:CJ please help me stoping him!!!! Thanx in advance!!! :'[

--Colin Gleen (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Lisbon/Porto pages

Misplaced Pages is a MULTIMEDIA encyclopaedia, thus your argument that images prove detrimental to wikipedia is flawed. They are not only illustrative but beneficial to the comprehension of an article's context. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.188.55.113 (talk) 21:20, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with this. While the Porto article was perhaps a bit too cluttered with images in the earlier edit, you removed far too many and made the ones left very small. One of the images removed was a featured image, that shows the beauty of Porto in ways that a load of words could not express, as corny as that may sound. I would like to work towards some sort of compromise to make the article as best as possible.Norman22b (talk) 00:25, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, the gallery wasn't necesary. From the looks of it the anon user just reverted to the previous edit, which was wrong in itself given that there were quite a few other edits not relating to images after your edits. As far as creating a compromise goes, I too am fairly happy with how the article is now. I would perhaps thing about upping the size of as well as if you agree? cheers Norman22b (talk) 16:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Template:Monarchs of Portugal

Maria II was made Queen of Portugal BEFORE AND AFTER Miguel. Learn our history before editing 89.155.96.45 (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if I seemed too rude my friend. The way it is now is chronological correct. Stay well ; ) 89.155.96.45 (talk) 16:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

By the way, if Beatrice is considered Queen of Portugal, does her husband, Juan I of Castile, need to be in this template (like Peter III and Ferdinand II are)? I don't think that portuguese historians considered him a king, but I can answered that later 89.155.96.45 (talk) 16:47, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Well she was de jure Queen, so I think one can add his name in the template. Beatrice rulled the country with him and that makes him a king consort. I don't know if you can read portuguese but if you can take a look at this it is about a council that rulled Portugal between Henry and Anthony 89.155.96.45 (talk) 17:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC) ps: I edited the template again. This time Afonso V renunced his title and his son, John II, replaced him, but after some days the former king decided to return thus becaming king a second time. After his death John II, again, replaced him also becaming a king a second time. If you know things like this I urged you to edit the template. Be cool 89.155.96.45 (talk) 18:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

March 2008

Thank you for making a report on Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Misplaced Pages and all users are encouraged to revert, warn, and report vandalism. However, administrators are generally only able to block users if they have received a recent final warning (one that mentions that the user may be blocked) and they have recently vandalized after that warning was given. The reported user has not yet been blocked because it appears this has not occurred yet. If this user continues to vandalize even after their final warning, please report them to the AIV noticeboard again. Thank you! Tiptoety 22:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Azerbaijan

For your information, Azerbaijan is a full member of the Council of Europe and geographically is partially in Europe, unlike Armenia which is fully located in Asia and which has likewise been associated for millennia with the Iranian and Turkic cultural milieu, but which you decided to include into Europe nonetheless. Just because the name of a country doesn't sound usual to a Western Anglophone ear doesn't mean it is geographically isolated from Europe. Modern Azerbaijan, having been part of the Russian Empire and the USSR for centuries, in fact shares a lot more similarities with Europe in terms of lifestyles than with Oman or Yemen. There is no basis in your attempts to present Georgia and Armenia as European and Azerbaijan as Asian, except your cultural prejudice. I suggest you examine this 'Countries of Europe' template before you make anymore reverts.

Spanish in Philippines

I think that is needed to paint Philippines in the spanish language map, because there are 1,816,389 speakers as a second lenguage and 689,000 chavacano speakers (spanish creole). Total: 2.450.000 speakers. Fuente: Instituto Cervantes, 1997. Some sources says that there are more than 1 million chavacano speakers. Another figure is 2,900,000 spanish speakers .

I know that there are only 2,658 native speakers according to census 1990, but this census also says that there are only 32,802 native speakers of english , and in the map of english language, Philippines is with colour. The same happens with another countries like India. There are only around 200,000 native speakers. Then, I think that it´s necesary to paint colour to Philippines in the spanish map. --Migang2g (talk) 02:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC) 99.226.143.206 (talk) 04:48, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Portugal

Olá. Ainda bem que verificaste isto, bem me quis parecer que aquelas alegações eram um bocado estranhas. Saudações, Húsönd 00:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Eu

Olha, afinal tenho 2,916 edits. É muito ou pouco? Velho (talk) 01:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Image:Maud of Savoy.jpg

A tag has been placed on Image:Maud of Savoy.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section I8 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is available as a bit-for-bit identical copy on the Wikimedia Commons under the same name, or all references to the image on Misplaced Pages have been updated to point to the title used at Commons.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on ] explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Sdrtirs (talk) 14:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Suleimão

Anda lá um gajo a moer-me o juízo com a porra do Oceano Índico... Velho (talk) 01:32, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

A malta

Estive a corrigir à bruta e a pôr uma introdução nos Tugas. Velho (talk) 00:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Joan of Portugal

Misplaced Pages says Joan was born 31 March 1439,but many Portuguese sites give her birthdate as 20 March 1439.Would you happen to know which date is correct?Thank you.15:46, 14 April 2008 (UTC)jeanne (talk)

Imperio colonial Francês

Achei o mapa do French colonial empires estranho. Se Portugal fez parte do império colonial francês e foi uma colónia da França tenho que queimar meus livros. 89.180.2.233 (talk) 18:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

List of Celtic place names in Portugal

Acabei de criar a página List of Celtic place names in Portugal. Talvez queira dar uma olhada nela. Em português foi posta para eliminação, embora não entendi porquê já que há outras similares. Obrigado.Casae (talk) 20:11, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Neutral language

Sure Sir! As you please! If the white man doesn't like it it is not neutral , isnt it??--Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 05:19, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Dutch Empire

Oh dear, another map-related edit war is ensuing this time on the Dutch Empire. I don't know if your interests extend to the colonies of your erstwhile enemies (at least in the 1600s) but this user has coloured half of Iran as Dutch as well as making various unsourced changes. Anyway, your thoughts would be appreciated. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 23:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

A reference has been listed, the one above claims it is unreliable. I sincerly doubt that. He listed where he got all of his information from, and "half of Iran" would be closer to the coast of Iran. (Red4tribe (talk) 23:20, 25 April 2008 (UTC))

Thanks for your input. I think, until this has been resolved, that the map should simply be removed from the article. As I am seriously in danger of being blocked, would you care to remove it from Dutch Empire? The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 15:58, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Where I am getting this information from,colonial voyage, has all of his references listed where he has gotten his information from. Now, maybe I am wrong, but how is this not credible? I am not going to buy 200 books just to make sure he interpretated the information correctly as red hat has said. Would you please explain to me how this is not credible? (Red4tribe (talk) 16:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC))

The reason why this is not acceptable is explained at WP:SPS. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 16:16, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Romance-speaking states of Europe

Template:Romance-speaking states of Europe has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you.--DerRichter (talk) 02:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

R1b

The latest research concerning the genetic characteristics and age of human paternal lineages indicate R1b is much younger than previously believed. Although the research doesn't indicate the precise age of R1b, its parent haplogroup, R1, was stimated to be 18,500 years old, thus R1b cannot be 30,000 years old. See also: —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.70.30.218 (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

advice

Am I wrong about this and the paragraph preceeding? Can you make a constructive comment? Slrubenstein | Talk 22:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Request for favour

Hi there. You may remember me giving you a hard time over accuracies in Portuguese maps - ie, the Indonesian bits - which you handled very well. Fancy a new challenge? There is a discussion] about the VOC maps. We have a disputed map - which is not a bad start - but has some problems with the Indonesia bit. Are you aware of the history of the VOC? well, i hope the discussion clarifies where we are at. The second map in the talk page section is a bit better representation of the situation at 1800 (red bits). Could you (a) offer some advice, or even (b) do some work on this map? --Merbabu (talk) 12:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

More map stuff

Hi there Ogre. You may be interested in another dispute about the Spanish Empire map. This time, it's about the extent of the Viceroyalty of Peru. I would be interested in your views, because it could be argued several ways, though I am firmly of one opinion. Thanks! The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 12:28, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Adding some composers to your French people montage

Hi Ogre, I like the montage of famous French men and women you've contributed to the article on the French people, but although it contains a number of artists and literary figures I notice there are no composers in it. Perhaps you could add images of one or two of the many famous and historically significant French composers, such as Jean-Philippe Rameau, Hector Berlioz, Claude Debussy, etc? Many thanks. 90.205.92.1 (talk) 04:25, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Please see Talk:French people/Photos, Talk:French people/Pictures - a global proposal and Talk:French people/Vote. Thanks. The Ogre (talk) 13:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

So this was subject to a vote? That's ridiculous. But it doesn't really surprise me. Western culture currently has a bias towards popular music and literature, so a vote like that is likely to reflect such a bias. I thought the purpose of Misplaced Pages was to be objective and factual, not simply to reflect current taste. To have a list of famous French people and omit some of the most important Classical composers in history from it (Berlioz, Debussy, Ravel) is shocking. 90.205.92.1 (talk) 16:54, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe. But who is to define objectivity and factuality? The Ogre (talk) 12:15, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Well it would seem that Misplaced Pages informally defines objectivity/factuality as 'if enough people say it's true, it's true'. Or at least, that seemed to be the criterion in this instance. Anyone who has a degree of knowledge of music history will know that there are a number of French composers who are of huge historical significance (Berlioz and Debussy in particular). There are many books, essays and conventional encyclopaedia articles which attest to this fact (indeed Misplaced Pages's own article on Debussy states that 'Debussy was not only among the most important of all French composers but also was a central figure in all European music at the turn of the twentieth century.'). Yet the photo-montage in the article ignores this, being simply reflective of current popular taste. Surely this is unencyclopaedic. 90.212.113.72 (talk) 17:39, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

You should take up the issue at the French people talk page, then. Notice however that that picture is just an example, and not intended to represent all of the noteworthy French. Furthermore, according to policy, Misplaced Pages is not about the truth, but about what people (sources) discuss is the truth. The Ogre (talk) 10:34, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, I will do that. But the content of Misplaced Pages is meant to be notable and verifiable knowledge. That the composers I have mentioned are historically significant is notable and verifiable; however, their omission from the montage was simply due to a popular vote, with all the arbitrariness that that entails.

I will not trouble you on this matter again. Many thanks for your constructive comments. :) 90.205.92.146 (talk) 16:53, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Reconquista template

Hy there, I want to ask you if there is any way to have the Reconquista template (which shows several battles) always in the open option in the Reconquista article. Its default form seems to be closed. Thanks Flamarande (talk) 09:01, 5 July 2008

Obrigado. I'm willing to improve the article "Reconquista" alone (edit conflicts are a bother, and to be honest I work best alone at articles when I want to work at all - one user = a single comprehensive logic for a whole article) but if you happen to find anything wrong in the article please tell me so at the articles talkpage. I like to think that my edits have been fair and reasonable. It will take quite some time (months) until I'm satisfied but "mais vale devagar é bem do que tudo as três pancadas, como sempre aconteçe num certo país que a gente conheçe" :) :(. Flamarande (talk) 14:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Ashkenazi Jews

If Ashkenazi Jews are to be classified as Germanic, classify Sephardi Jews as Italic - however, Afro-Asiatic is a far more apt designation, because it is universally recognized that both Jewish populations are of an ultimately and overwhelmingly Afro-Asiatic background, genetically and historically.

Race

I noticed that my edits were being reverted. Race is certainly a concept that has much credibility and a minority say that race is just a social concept. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rushlow (talk • contribs) 22:04, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Madeira work group

You have a point. For what it's worth, the work group, like a lot of others, was created to be as it were a "joint" subproject of both the project for the region in which it is included and its "home" country. In fact, I seem to remember having set up the banner in such a way that it assessed for the Madeira group as well as WikiProject Africa and WikiProject Portugal. Part of the reason for setting it up under the region was the possibility/probability that content related to native lifeforms, geography, and the like would be better known by members of the regional project, while the political content would be better known by the members of the "political" parent project. At this point, though, considering that it would probably mean adjustment's to the Africa project's banner, you'd probably want to contact them about it. I will try to do the rest of the assessments for the region, and maybe adjust the banner myself to make the work group visible, later this week, possibly today, more likely in a few days. John Carter (talk) 14:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, the Africa project banner currently automatically assesses for WikiProject Portugal as well with only that one banner, thus reducing the number of banners required on the talk page. If the Portugal project banner could be adjusted to do the same for Africa, I doubt there would be any real objections, but because it would probably involve changes to the Africa project's banner it probably would be best to seek and get their approval first. John Carter (talk) 14:16, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

It could be. Right now, though, as it is the Africa banner being used, it made sense for it to be named as a subproject of Africa. It is currently listed as a task force on the main Portugal project page, and it probably wouldn't be objected to if the name you suggested were made a redirect to the existing page. But you'd probably want consensus before actually moving the extant page. John Carter (talk) 14:55, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

• Thank you for the invitation into the Madeira work group. However, I think I am busy enough sticking to the mainland. And I doubt if I could add anything on Madeira topics. Ron B. Thomson (talk) 18:19, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Olá

De novo venho pedir ajuda. Não sei se pode ajudar na wiki-pt e rever um trecho de treze linhas e 22 referências que adicionei na secção "Nomes e terminologia". Estou numa rixa com um editor que altera tudo o que escrevo. Obrigado. Casae (talk) 01:33, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Izmir lee, again

I've opened a sockpuppetry case against him here . Feel free to add your own evidence. He is being extremely disruptive, resorting to massive canvassing , and unfortunately, Ryan is away at the moment. --Tsourkpk (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the help in the case. You made some good points and helped turn things around, as they were getting out of hand. Keep up the good work. --Tsourkpk (talk) 15:30, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

for Muslims...

Hi, are you racist? Why are you deleting in there and there to Turkic and Muslim countries? Misplaced Pages don't agree to racist... i will complaint to you... I think, it won't displaying...*** Эɱ®εč¡κ *** 20:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

• This is not personal attack. I want to warn only, but you make vandalism!.. Please read again to my message, and you think now. If you won't make vandalism again, then i will be silent...

This is your vandalism events :

• Page 1 : Armenia is in Asia as fully, but Turkey and Kazakhstan has some European area. So, why Armenia is in "Europe", but "Turkey" and "Kazakhstan" is in Asia?*** Эɱ®εč¡κ *** 17:09, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Sikanian

Just to let you know, our anon. editor thinks he has sources (amateur websites), and doesn't seem to understand they aren't acceptable per guidelines. He gets quite irate when told this. kwami (talk) 15:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

White People

Why stop there? If you want more detail might as well list every single European country. CenterofGravity (talk) 17:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Template:African Diaspora

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Template:African diaspora. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. 88.255.188.188 (talk) 17:33, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for notifying me! I knew I should have gotten some more sleep last night.. :) Cheers JdeJ (talk) 13:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Galardões

Poças, ainda estou muito abaixo na escala, depois de anos nisto.... Velho (talk) 16:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Não, não

Já tou a dormir. Velho (talk) 04:13, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of "Aiav"

A page you created, Aiav, has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it redirects from an implausible misspelling.

You are welcome to contribute content which complies with our content policies and any applicable inclusion guidelines. However, please do not simply re-create the page with the same content. You may also wish to read our introduction to editing and guide to writing your first article.

Thanks. BigHairRef | Talk 20:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi, the reason I tagged this for deletion is that it is an unlikely spelling of the redirect which additionally dosen't specify that it is a cross-namespace redirect and additionally the pages WP:AIV, Misplaced Pages:AIV and WP:Administrator intervention against vandalism already exist. Hope that clarifies the issue. BigHairRef | Talk 21:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry forgot to also include the page WP:AIAV which also links to the same place and therefore is a duplicate link. I'm not an admin so I don't delete pages directly but an admin will look at the tag and make a decision based on whether or not it would be useful given the current redirects already. BigHairRef | Talk 21:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Avienus

Thank you for the correction. I was wondering if you might be able to help with my question at Talk:Avienus Lucian Sunday (talk) 13:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Moors

Greetings. I've noticed you've been valiantly attempting to protect the Moors page from vandalism over the past few days. Thought you'd like to know that there is an editor that appears to now be trying to move the article in a distinctly Afrocentric direction. He even substituted one of the current images for several others including this one, which he then described with the following phrase: "A 17th century Dutch painting of their image of a Moor: clearly a black African." I've restored the images, but you still might want to keep an eye on the page. Cheers, Causteau (talk) 04:07, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah. I'm that editor. I see what the problem was. No I'm not an Afrocentrist and I was not trying to make some play on what the "racial" basis of people in Anadalus were. I was trying to point out that the people LABELED as Moors by Europeans (mostly NORTHERN Europeans) collects a huge group of unrelated peoples. I also removed a romantic era painting of an Egyptian by a Frenchman. I rally don't care what skin tone people in 13th century Spain had, but I was more interested expanding the discussion of "Moor" as a portmanteau term. A useful exercise might be to compare and contrast the use of Saracen and Moor, at one time interchangeable in coastal areas of the central Mediterranean, but differentiated by the Second Crusade (for obvious reasons). I'm not going to push this, or make huge changes to the article unilaterally, but I think it's a discussion worth having, as the article is a real mess. I would also appreciate it if editors were to assume good faith and not label my good faith edits vandalism. T L Miles (talk) 14:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Your recent changes

To the map template. After encountering it on the Greater Europe page, I see you have been trying to change the maps. After investigating, it appears it was you that tagged those maps as factual anyway. Please discontinue this POV pushing. Maltalia (talk) 13:02, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Insult? Where anywhere was there an insult? Maltalia (talk) 13:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I sincerely apologise if I failed to show good faith, and I hasten to reassure you that I was in no means attempting to insult. I have replied at the page with my views. I also think we may need to semi-protect the talk page, based on the latest IP edit there. Maltalia (talk) 16:39, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Can I just ask

What was the reason for this revert? Maltalia (talk) 20:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Tás sem mail?

Velho (talk) 22:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Ham

I was trying to work out where the last non-vandalized edit was, the user Scouse God was vandalizing which I picked up using Huggle. I fixed it now, I rolled it back to the 12 of August. It appears it has been vandalized for some time.--Theoneintraining (talk) 14:46, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

de:Portugiesen

Hi, this is just to inform you that we have made some changes in the mentioned article. It's still far from good, but it should no longer reflect a racialist point of view – you were perfectly right in criticising that. Best wishes, --SCPS (talk) 13:17, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Madeira work group

HI. I;ve moved it from wikiproject africa to wikiproject portugal. I brought the issue up with John Carter several months ago but he isn't here at present The Bald One 13:55, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes I absolutely agree with you. When John Carter started them though I think he was thinkiing geographically in terms of the African plate as you said. Yes I am aware that it is currently under Africa's banner. In my view Madeira and Azores are definately under Portugal and I'd imagine most would agree. 'Fraid I ain't much good on template documentation. As John isn't here perhaps ask User:Black Falcon (who is also on a short break I think or see if User:Nishkid64 knows anything about it. Regards The Bald One 17:03, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank You!

I appreciate your help very much --Thorseth (talk) 17:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Catalan

The Catalan name of your nick should be L'ogre. "El" before vowel is "L' ". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.31.233.208 (talk) 18:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Admin Assitance

{{adminhelp}} I seem, not willingly, to have created a sort of sock account - this happened when I was creating my registration at the Catalan wiki. Suddenly I was also editing as El Ogre here at the English one! How could this be? Can an admin delete that non-existent user? And explain what happened (I did even logged out here, I was just immediately transformed into a new user!). Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 19:50, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Administrators can't delete accounts, only bureaucrats can. I wouldn't worry about it though, as long as you're not using this "sock" to skirt rules or try to avoid consensus there's no issue and nobody will care. As for how it happened, maybe you have unified login? Oren0 (talk) 01:10, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

L'Orco

Per confermare che tu sei it:Utente:L'Orco e en:User:The Ogre, scrivi OK qui sotto. Grazie, Ary29 (talk) 14:43, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

OK, sono io! Grazie tante Ary29! The Ogre (talk) 15:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Bene, adesso sei it:Utente:The Ogre. Ciao, Ary29 (talk) 15:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Unified Account

Ok, obrigado, mas o problema é que há outros «Velho»s na portuguesa e na alemã (fui eu que os fiz e entretanto deixei de conseguir aceder-lhes). Velho (talk) 16:44, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandalisme

Deixa ja de cometre actes en vandalisme a la Viquipèdia en espanyol i en català. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.25.107.48 (talk) 19:47, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

The Ogre

Are you Spanish or Portuguese? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.139.105.10 (talk) 13:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Re. Várias coisas

Olá The Ogre! :-) Já tinha pensado em aderir ao login unificado, acho que ainda só não o fiz devido àquela falta de paciência e letargia sintomáticas do Verão (que aliás também se reflectem no decréscimo da minha actividade na própria Wikipédia inglesa)... :-P Logo à noite já vejo se me debruço por fim no login unificado. Obrigado pelo empurrãozinho. :-) Estive a dar uma olhada às discussões daquelas imagens do Império espanhol. Creio que a disputa é com alguns editores que acham que porque Portugal esteve temporariamente sob domínio Habsburgo, que passámos nesse período a fazer parte do império espanhol? Apesar de nunca ter havido anexação do Reino de Portugal por parte do Reino de Espanha, não me admiraria que nos livros escolares espanhóis a coisa seja descrita como se durante 60 anos andássemos todos felizes a tocar castanholas por cá. :-) Logo já leio melhor as discussões e talvez intervenha. Abraços, Húsönd 15:11, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Relações entre Espanha e Portugal

Porque é que estás sempre a alterar a parte que fala da Portugaliza? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.139.105.10 (talk) 15:22, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Spanish people

mtDNA contribution of NW Africa to Iberia is not 10% but 18 %.

Excerpt from "mtDNA Sequences Show Multidirectional Gene Flow in the Western Mediterranean (S. Plaza, 2003)"

"Haplogroup U6 is present at frequencies ranging from 0 to 7% in the various Iberian populations, with an average of 1.8%. Given that the frequency of U6 in NW Africa is 10%, the mtDNA contribution of NW Africa to Iberia can be estimated at 18%, with a 95% confidence interval of 8%-26%"

Vandalism was made by 200.121.244.181 on 4 March 2008 (Revision as of 04:05, 4 March 2008) who replace the right figure of 18% with a wrong value.

So please dont change the figures as the ones specified now are absolutely correct.--90.14.105.62 (talk) 12:20, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Apologies for the misunderstanding. The fact that you used a potentially misleading edit summary (ie "typo") to amend a paragraph that you had not edited in the first place looked certainly suspicious to me at the time. Regards, Asterion 13:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Likewise! Regards.The Ogre (talk) 14:58, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Hispanophone World Map Update

Dear Mr. The Ogre

Please, take a look to this talk:

I need your opinion in order to update the Hispanophone World Map and if you agree with the new changes.

Sincerely Ascosphaera (talk) 18:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Map

Hi there Ogre. Thanks for the tip about unified logins - I did that per your suggestion. Regarding the map though, I don't speak Portuguese so it's difficult for me to contribute. My view is that there is a lot of crap on the Wikimedia Commons, and as long as it doesn't enter the English Misplaced Pages, I don't get too fussed about it. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 00:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Probable Searchtruthseeker sockpuppet

I knew he was a sockpuppet. He was eager to write about recent genetic results and his collaboration was valid, although not following the rules of Misplaced Pages and with many faults I am trying to correct. I believe it is a case of guidance and some control.

--Quissamã (talk) 13:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Historical Powers

Could you explain your reasons for reverting the map change on this article? Usergreatpower (talk) 17:37, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Opinoso Disruptive Behavior

User:Opinoso insists in disruptive behavior and edition war in Italian_Brazilian article.

He does not want that tags be placed in the text asking to to provide reliable sources to controversial facts.

The same User:Opinoso has a long history of disruptive behavior in Portuguese Misplaced Pages. He is not fit to group work, is renowned for insulting everyone that has a different opinion and does not seem to have a good knowledge of any field that he pretends to contribute.

--Quissamã (talk) 01:38, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

List_of_municipalities_of_Portugal

List of municipalities of Portugal is a Featured List, but has been at Misplaced Pages:Featured_list_removal_candidates/List_of_municipalities_of_Portugal#List_of_municipalities_of_Portugal for some time now, with no improvements. Sadly, it's looking increasingly likely that it'll lose its star, which would be a shame.

I invite you (or other editors with an interest in Portugal) to come to the FLRC and see if the status can be saved. My hunch is that it doesn't look like it's an extremely tough job to rescue it... --Dweller (talk) 11:14, 9 September 2008 (UTC) (FLRC Director)

Ron Brown

Please, take a look at my page and look at the trouble I have been getting into with people who don't want me to put down the facts about Ron Brown's death. I have articles from sources such as Newsweek, and The New York Times referenced, and some ready from the San Jose Mercury News. The Wallstreet Underground was a very respectable journal. The reference I made to it was never sued for libel. Please, help John Blyth otherwise known as thrutheseasons.

Peruvian sock

Let me know if you think if Andalusian people or Spanish people need to be semiprotected. The "Telefonica de Peru" (20x.xxx.xxx.xxx) guy (ie User:Gonbal2 editing without logging in) is back with a vengeance... --Asterion 18:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I do think they need to be semiprotected against the same old Peruvian vandal! Cheers. The Ogre (talk) 10:21, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Beluga

Regarding this edit summary: Duh! I knew that, but typed it up wrong! Thanks very much for catching and fixing my mistake. Kafziel 17:07, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Gonbal2

Have you noticed similar editing/reverting/edit warring patterns between Gonbal2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and any other editors? The account has been active since March of 2007, but the editing pattern it displays strikes me as odd. The editor never seems to make edits for more than about 3 or 4 days in a stint before disappearing for weeks or months at a time. This pattern is very indicative that the account might be a sockpuppet made specifically for participating in edit wars. If this is the case, I'd like to file a checkuser report to block all of the editors accounts indefinitely. Please take a look at Gonbal2's contributions and see if anything jogs your memory. Thanks! Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 17:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:The_Ogre&action=edit

FYI

The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 23:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

White Americans

• Care to explain why you reverted my edits, and feel that Iranian Americans, Arab Americans and Turkish Americans somehow demand a related article link all their own, but every other group deemed "white" by the U.S Government does not? A discussion for this was already taking place, here and here, and you chose not to participate. The Scythian 16:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Sockpuppets

I am pretty sure that all the following are sockpuppets of the same user:

• Birdcatdog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 987a123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Spiritdog (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• MayB2B (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Xtra2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Jonyjohn (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Thebig123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Eveeye (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 888aaa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 999aaa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 80.58.205.44 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• 80.58.205.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

As for User:Gonbal2, I don't think it's a sockpuppet of the above users because the main thing that user edits is Spanish people by adding in the CIA Factbook definition. I don't think User:Wikfanzine is a sockpuppet of the ones listed above because that user put on the Talk:Latino (demonym) page that Europeans are not Latinos, but the above editors kept trying to introduce that Hispanic and Latinos were of any Romance-speaking background. It's possible that User:Littlejimmie is a sockpuppet of User:Wikfanzine, as he was removing Spanish Americans from Template:Hispanic and Latino Americans. In August, there was a user that kept trying to removed Spanish Americans from Template:Hispanic and Latino Americans, but I can't remember who that was. I don't know how to report sockpuppets because it's hard to tell which one is the main account. Kman543210 (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

WP:SSP and WP:RFCU are where to go to report sockpuppets, Kman543210. It doesn't matter if you can or can't tell what the main account is. The purpose of filing reports on those pages is to have administrators and other users look at the reports and try to make sense of it all. Have a look at those two noticeboards, read the info at the top and let me know if you have any questions. Ioeth _{(talk contribs friendly)} 17:56, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Empire map

An animated map seems like a good idea, Ogre. It hadn't occurred to me.

I read part of the discussion at Commons and will go back for more in a day or two. I'll also look into unified login.

All the best! SamEV (talk) 04:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Mesta`

I appreciate your looking into this for me ... I can read Spanish but frankly English sources are much easier. Thanks! Slrubenstein | Talk 15:16, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Warnings

Please don't give users a warning message for each infraction you perceive. The purpose of warnings is to tell someone their actions are inappropriate and to give them a reasonable chance to modify their behaviour. They should receive a second and subsequent warning only if they've ignored the first. This edit is ludicrous; you're starting with "welcome but" and proceeding to "final warning" without any edits in between. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 17:17, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Mesta

Thanks!! Slrubenstein | Talk 21:30, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Animated Map

Hi there Ogre. I gather you are planning on resolving disputes about this Spanish Empire map with an animated one. May I ask what you intend to do exactly? Thanks The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 17:43, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Maria Pia of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha Braganza

Hello. I cannot understand why you do you want block me, if I just publish information based on books, documents or other sources (like genealogic trees). I guess you are a supporter of the false pretender Duarte Pio but, in that case, I really recommend you to read more books about the Portuguese dinastic subject. And you should also read the decisions of the "Consejo del Estado" (of Spain) about Maria Pia and her descendants. She was recognized as the real and legitimate pretender from Portugal. If you want continue supporting and advertising false pretenders... ok, continue do that. But publishing lies on Misplaced Pages, in my opinion, is not the best way to do that. Thanks for all attention. 84.90.92.195 (talk) 14:03, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

if you have time

If you have time, and you look t this? here. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 03:04, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

WHS

Ogre (nice name): What would you suggest as a different lead for the W.H.S. entry?SLY111 (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)SLY111

What is WHS?? The Ogre (talk) 19:12, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean Wolf's Head (secret society)? The Ogre (talk) 19:14, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Help @ Spanish Empire

Hi there Ogre... haven't heard from you in a while. Your help would be appreciated at Spanish Empire - the regular sockpuppet crowd is trying to do their regular thing again.... The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 01:18, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Empire

Hi there Ogre. I was wondering whether you'd left the project for good, but you seem to be back. There has been a bit of a coup d'etat at Spanish Empire in your absence! The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 10:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Bendigamos

In this article, you reference the nusach of Az Ya Shir. Is there a copy of the nusach that could be linked to? I'd link to it myself, but I'm not sure of the nusach you're referring to, as my shul is the mumbling sort when it comes to Az Ya Shir.

-- Batshua (talk) 21:54, 25 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.125.140.173 (talk)

Antepassados e árvores genealógicas

Ogre, pá, quando aqui apareceres tens de me ajudar no combate às árvores genealógicas nos artigos sobre gajos portugueses. Isto é uma palhaçada descomunal. Velho (talk) 01:32, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Possible Izmir Lee sock

Hi Ogre,

It seems Izmir Lee might be back, this time as User:Mttll. Take a look at his edits on Middle East and Languages of Europe. Any help would be appreciated. --Tsourkpk (talk) 17:44, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Fascism

Hey, happy New year! I know this is not really your thing, but if you have time could you please look this discussion thread? It concerns an edit to the lede Collect made yesterday (Jan 8). I'd appreciate an independent view from a thoughtful person. Thanks, Slrubenstein | Talk 23:12, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Lusitanian_mythology and Runesocesius

I've made significant changes to these pages and explained why on the talk pages. As far as I can tell there never was a trinity of Endovelicus, Ataecina and Runesocesius. Unless, course, you know different, it seems it was all a mistake. Paul S (talk) 17:54, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Iberian-Guanche

Dear Ogre, as a WP-specialist on palaeo-hispanic languages, what is your view on Iberian-Guanche inscriptions? Trigaranus (talk) 19:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Warnings vandalism

I have nominated Warnings vandalism (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. MBisanz 05:57, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

French people

Hi there, we're having a problem again with the pic (File:French people - mosaic.PNG), Edith Piaf picture was deleted. Would you have time to take care of this? Maybe, in the meantime this image could be used (I know, not that great)? Regards - Wikigi | talk to me | 08:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Done it for now - Wikigi | talk to me | 10:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Hello, mister!

Did you enjoy your vacation?

Welcome back! SamEV (talk) 10:10, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

BTW, I got my unified login, like you suggested, about a year ago. I just haven't used it yet, though I keep meaning to. But any editing is a rarety for me these days. I hope to change that in the weeks ahead.

Hey, may everything be well with you. SamEV (talk) 10:53, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

hi

how does it feels being conquered by the spanish and then being his own shadow for the rest of your entire life? good? you want me to revert edits in your false portuguese empire? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.7.100.94 (talk) 15:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Latin America

Hey, why did you revert? 78.146.232.238 (talk) 16:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I was reverting the unnoticed edit by User:Bosonic dressing 78.146.232.238 (talk) 16:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Religion is one of the key deciding factors in "Latin America", according to the majority of in-depth sources (as far as I can see). Otherwise, Canada would be considered part of it too. 78.146.232.238 (talk) 16:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I've tried to work out a compromise - what do you think? 78.146.232.238 (talk) 16:56, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

?

It is not necessary to change every pre-modern reference to "Spain"/"Spaniard"/"Spanish" to "Iberia"/"Iberian". The word "Spain" is the common designator for Christian Iberia (or all Iberia) before the advent of the united Kingdom of Spain under the Catholic Monarchs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sifilis122 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Not it is not, only in a self-centered Spain people say that. There were socio-political and geographical realities called Iberia and Hispania that comprehend the territories of modern Spain and Portugal. It is not the same. The Ogre (talk) 15:02, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

rv

See the page of the Spanish Empire and stop reverting my edits, the Portuguese Empire and its colonies are included in the map of the Spanish Empire, so you belonged to the Spanish, if you can't handle with is not my problem. And please stop spamming on my channel. Thank you.

Ah! Ah! Read the discussion about exactly that in the Spanish Empire talk page! And for some reason the Portuguese and Spanish colonies are shown in different colours and labelled "Territories of the Portuguese empire during the Iberian Union (1581–1640)"! 15:30, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

During the Iberian Union, the Portuguese Empire kept its own administration and jurisdiction, but some historians assert that at that time, it was a kingdom which formed part of the Spanish Monarchy; others draw a clear distinction between the Portuguese Empire and the Spanish Empire, this can be read in the main page of the Spanish Empire. The ottoman empire & frankish empire have more than two colours too. Thank you Sifilis122 (talk) 15:41, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

3RR block

I've blocked you for 12 hours for a 3-revert rule violation at Battle of Alcântara (1580) and an accompanying pattern of edit-warring. If you feel this block is unfair, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below. Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:23, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

The Ogre (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

My friend, since when rv a 3RR violation by a disruptive editor with a clear POV agenda, that does not try to reach a consensus with other editors and harasses tem in a series of diverse articles is a 3RR violation? The user I reverted for a 3rd time is trying to edit against consensus reached in a great number of articles. Reverting him was, for me, like reverting POV vandalism. Please do explain why it was no so according to your view. And I have followed all the steps, like warning him several times, reported him to AIAV and ANEW. I do feel this block to be unfair, given that I was just protecting the articles in question. I am, I believe, a serious editor, as can be seen by my contributions. Of course everybody makes mistakes, and I do avoid rv for a 3rd time even when I believe I'm just reverting pov or complex vandalism. I did overlook that is was my 3rd rv. And If this block is, in your view, warranted, then let it be. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 18:46, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Unfortunately, 3RR applies to us even when we are right. It's a fairly short block, and when it expires, then you can try something from the WP:DISPUTE menu. FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Unblock request comment: Ogre, you're blocked because you reported your opponent for violating the 3 -revert rule, even though you yourself had also violated it. Now, while you might be "right" that it is clearer to translate the historical usage of the word "Spain" (and its cognates) as "Iberia", it is not "vandalism" to avoid doing so, as this is common practice in the English-speaking world, even in WP:RSs (e.g.). Frankly, calling it "vandalism" weakens your case by making yourself appear tendentious. I advise you to read Misplaced Pages:VANDALISM#What_is_not_vandalism. Cheers, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 18:51, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Deacon you have misunderstood me, or I have not explained myself properly. I do not say calling Spain to Iberia or Hispania is vandalism (I do believe it to be wrong, as do many sources, but that is another discussion). What I think was vandalism in Sifilis122's edit (and I never was unpolite towards him) was his patern of disruptive edits, going after XPTO's edits and immediatly calling a vandal (and calling me chauvinistic in the process). And, again (and I do know this is not "good" explanation) I only reverted him a 3rd time because I did not realize it was my 3rd plain revert. Do notice that I edited that same article after that (and after some more Sifilis122's edits) in a constructive manner. Again, If the block has to remain because of my 3RR vio, then it must remain. I was just hoping for you to understand the rationality behind my actions. Thanks once again. The Ogre (talk) 19:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Heh

O HAI Ogress _smash! 21:42, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Pater familias Patriarch and Paternalism

Can you help with the etymologies or do you know anyone who can? I think we have a pov problem here. Dougweller (talk) 20:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:19, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Revert

Hi, you reverted a free download that an IP had added to Our Lady of Fátima. First, I am not great friends with that IP editor and have had disagreements with him before. But that free download is not really spam in my opinion, but a book that one would have had to pay money for. And it does not ask for donations. Could we agree to put it back please? Thanks History2007 (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. History2007 (talk) 14:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Spanish Empire

Hi, how about you? He visto que últimamente estás a una intervención activa en la edición, y recibo con agrado que estés de acuerdo con el nuevo mapa del imperio español. Finalmente no pudo ser animado, pero lo intenta. Quería además informarte que en medida de mi tiempo disponible voy a ir añadiendo en la página de discusión de Iberian Union, las fuentes sobre las que he ido ilustrando con puntos los territorios portugueses entre 1580-1640. Un saludo. Trasamundo (talk) 21:39, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Hola, recently I have seen the contributions of a anonymous user who has been placing templates to delete a lot of maps of empires, and among them, I have seen certain maps of the SE that certain vandals put in the article when the page is unprotected, which I communicate to you, in case of you wanted to put some commentary in the above mentioned maps. Regards. Trasamundo (talk) 20:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Bullying

If you try to bully, intimidate or abuse other users again you will be reported. Jove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.153.0.150 (talk) 10:36, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

Re. Jorge Ferreira (Portuguese singer)

Olá Ogre e obrigado por me contactares. O artigo sobre este cantor presumivelmente famosíssimo em Portugal está claramente escrito com WP:POV, WP:COI e WP:VSCA. O melhor a fazer é despachar este artigo com um WP:AFD. Normalmente eu mesmo levaria este artigo ao WP:AFD, mas hoje encontro-me sem tempo para dedicar à Wikipédia. Agradecia por isso se pudesses ser tu a meter este artigo no WP:AFD, e depois me informasses de modo a que eu possa participar. Se este artigo for posto no prego e houver consenso para que seja apagado, eu mesmo encarregar-me-ei de limpar os outros artigos sobre os discos, menções, etc.. Cumprimentos, Húsönd 17:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Re-Jorge Ferreira (Portuguese singer)

Ola bom dia Ogre. Eu apresento-me : o meu nome é Claudio Fernandes, sou o usuario chamado Robotixi (CFernandes75). Sou filho de emigrantes madeirenses em Paris e tenho 27 anos. Em primeiro, eu queria pedir desculpa a todos aqueles a quem eu não falei sobre o meu artigo, incluindo você. Sou um grande fan do cantor Jorge Ferreira, que eu escuto desde os meus 5 anos de idade. É verdade que este cantor tem mais sucesso no estrangeiro, principalmente nos Estados Unidos, do que em Portugal mesmo, porque éle é um cantor da emigração portuguesa. De facto, em vista dos anos desde que eu o escuto, este cantor tem um valor muito importante para mim, sentimental, afectual, familiar e nostalgico. Quem sabe apreciar a musica, a voz, o talento deste artista em todas as suas canções descobre um grande senhor da musica popular portuguesa, com mais de 30 anos de carreira, um grande cantor português exceptional, que normalmente hoje em dia devia ter ainda mais sucesso e ainda mais fama do que actualmente, pois este cantor não é reconhecido ao seu real valor. Eu sempre defendi o Jorge Ferreira em toda parte, eu sempre defendi a minha pagina neste Misplaced Pages, e sempre continuarei de o fazer. A explicação das minhas cancelações dos seus manutenciamentos é muito simples : Cada vez que eu escrevo um detalhe no meu artigo, para mim eu penso que a notabilidade esta posta. Ou cada vez que eu ponho uma referência, eu penso que o artigo ja esta mais credivél. Eu não conheço muito o funcionamento de Misplaced Pages e queria vos pedir perdão e também ajuda. É por isso que eu pesso a você para não cancelar a pagina Jorge Ferreira (Portuguese singer), por favor. Eu estou pronto a contacta-o para falar com você fora do Misplaced Pages, no seu E-mail personal, se você quer, e também posso o dar o meu e-mail personal. Assim, a gente fala-se os dois, a dizer-me por favor qual são exactamente as partes do meu artigo que não passa a vista, que falta referência ou que esta mal escrito, o que falta, etc... Eu farei o maximo para reescrever o meu artigo com a vossa ajuda, e também tomarei eu a ocasião para aprender com você o sistema do Misplaced Pages. Mais por favor, seja indulgente, não cancela o meu artigo !! Eu espero ansiosamente uma resposta sua. Muito obrigado.

Robotixi (talk) 18:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)RobotixiRobotixi (talk) 18:02, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

sandbox

A Warning????? A warning for what? because when I look at the edits you claimed to have reverted it back to the edit I made also telling me to use the sandbox is not a warning. I suggest stop vandalizing and keep of my page with your nonsense Seensawsee (talk) 22:36, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your AIV report on Somegirl 98

Thank you for your report on Somegirl 98 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). I have however declined to block for the following reason:

No vandalism since final warning. Re-report if this user resumes vandalising.

If you have further questions, please don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Cheers! -- lucasbfr 16:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

moors

Well if you had half a brain or new anything about this topic you seem to be so pasionate about you would you know that the racist comment was wrong and at least try to talk to me about the edit first before you made petty treats. Were in the so called reference provided state that the moors were not "negro"? I doubt that you can never find a historical reference to back up that ignorant claim. The moors like most North Africans were a mixed group of people and whether it was through slavery or trade or miscegenation they did have black "negro" blood so how can that article make a claim like that.Seensawsee (talk) 00:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Moors

This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Misplaced Pages, as you did to Moors, you will be blocked from editingSeensawsee (talk) 00:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Don't throw around warnings please. and No personal attacks.--Ssteiner209 (talk) 00:05, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

I have to say I agree I shouldn't have used Personal attacks, but that editor placed 2 warning on my page and threatened to report me for so called "vandalism". Without even trying to talk to me. if I'm gulity of anything the he/she is too Seensawsee (talk) 00:15, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

This is the only warning you will receive for your disruptive edits.
The next time you delete or blank page contents or templates from Misplaced Pages, as you did to Moors, you will be blocked from editingCitionthehill (talk) 21:28, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Stop restoring warnings

You are engaged in an edit-war on User talk:Seensawsee. Please do not restore warnings on user talk pages. Users are allowed to remove warnings from their talk pages per WP:BLANKING. Notable exceptions are declined {{Unblock}} requests for the duration of the block, {{repeatvandal}} and SharedIP notices. Toddst1 (talk) 14:57, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Moors dispute

In a show of good faith on your part, I ask that you refrain from bringing up sockpuppetry and other editor's motives within the dispute discussion. It is not helping the issue. Let's keep the discussion on topic discussing just the facts. Your response to my comments, I think, will be helpful in moving forward. Feel free to start a case at WP:SPI but it does not help to keep bringing it up in the discussion. -- Mufka 01:00, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Moors

Thanks for alerting me. I've left a response here. Causteau (talk) 05:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

White Americans

IP 129 in his eagerness to remove Paris Hilton has made a mess of the article. Please, how can I fix it?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:49, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

ANI notice

Hello, The Ogre. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Unacceptable description about "Portuguese People" Thank you. —/Mendaliv//_Δ's/ 18:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Oi Ogre. Estive a ler o conteudo do caso acima e estive a rir-me durante um bom bocado. Então o outro tipo chateou-se por uma analyse do DNA ter revelado que muitos portugueses tem antepassados Arabes e do norte de Africa. O que o tipo estava a espera? Que os portugueses fossem somente descendentes dos antigos Lusitanos, Romanos, Suevos e Visigodos, não?

Estes racistas gostariam é que os portuguêses na idade media tivessem feito uns genocidios contra a população conquistada. Esquecem-se é que matar população civil é mau para os impostos e para a civilização como um todo. Se matar-mos toda gente quem fica para habitar as cidades e lavrar os campos? Na reconquista os portugueses simplesment comiam e casavam com as Arabes (algumas atê eram viuvas ricas ou jovens bonitas e tudo). As tipas atê tomavam banho e utilizavam perfume!

Toda a gente em Portugal sabe (muitos não querem é admiti-lo) que temos muito sangue e antepassados Arabes, Judeus, e Ciganos (e atê Africanos). Estes racistas tugas são é uma vergonha, uma cambada de ignorantes, e retardados mentais. Enfim eles são a grande vergonha nacional que a gente conhece.

Uma pessoa olha para o Mario Machado e o seu bando de babuinos e os tipos são evidentemente uns Luso-Germanicos de gema não hajá duvida. Aqueles olhos azuis, aquele cabelos loiros, o perfil germanico... E depois uma pessoa olha para uns tipos arabes (com barba bem feita e certo) e compara-os com o Mario Machado, grande machão do Hammerskins (grupo de escumalha criminosa, vendedores de armas e de drogas) e não são nada parecidos. É que nem um bocadinho sequer. Sera que o tipo (ouvi dizer que anda a fazer bicos a toda a gente na prisão - principalmente a piças negras e compridas - é que um verdadeiro Hammerskin gosta mais) tem alguns antepassados arabés e judeus? Certamente que não, que ideia. Olha não vou assinar isto com o nick pq sei que me arrisco a ser um alvo de babuinos racistas. Só queria dizer que uma pessoa tem que ter um certo sentido de humor perante estes racistas de merda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.108.147.218 (talk) 15:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Your recent edits to an SPI case

 Clerk note: I note that in replying to my clerk note on the SPI case that you are involved with, you;

• altered my comments by enclosing them in <small> </small> tags.
• re-arranged the order of the comments on the case.

I have reverted your changes, and would urge you most strongly not to do this again. Refactoring any comments on any SPI case other than by an SPI clerk is not permitted. Mayalld (talk) 12:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Refactoring includes altering your own comments to the case after they have been replied to. Please, once something is on the case page, don't change it. Mayalld (talk) 13:50, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Mapa

Olá. Eu nunca vi um mapa do Império francês que incluisse uma tira que dividisse Portugal ao meio. Mapa das zonas ocupadas temporariamente é uma coisa ficar parte da França é outra. Obrigado. (Ou querem dizer que o rio Tejo era francês?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.214.157.247 (talk) 17:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

A azul claro são zonas ocupadas, mas não parte do império. The Ogre (talk) 19:41, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Re. Talk:Moors # Seensawsee's edits # The facts

Hello The Ogre. I just noticed that I had never replied back to you on this. I have been extremely busy lately, with very little time for Misplaced Pages. I might be looking into this matter later, but I'm afraid I just cannot at the moment. :-/ Best regards, Húsönd 18:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

OR & POV-pushing on the Genetic History of Europe article

Hi The Ogre. There's a user attempting to force into the Genetic History of Europe article some pretty blatant original research and POV. I've laid out the details in my first post in this new section of the article's talk page. Your input would be most appreciated. Regards, Causteau (talk) 19:04, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you --Bilgelik (talk) 12:17, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Discovery of New Zealand

Hi The Ogre. I saw the reversions you have made in the article Portugal regarding the discovery of Australia. I had also made the same action before I checked the source and found that it suggests indeed that New Zealand, according that theory, was also found by the Portuguese explorers - it is on page 2. Cheers. Jomifica (talk) 12:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

White Brazilian

Olá. Hello. I'm Donadio; you may remember you weighed in the White Brazilian article, which was protected due to the edit war between me and Opinoso. I resumed editing the article, but Opinoso is again placing objections against the changes he refused to discuss while the article was protected. Can you please take a look there and weigh in again? Obrigado! Donadio (talk) 23:15, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Indianwhite

Indianwhite (talk · contribs) continues on his/her merry way ignoring everyone. Because he used an IP, he's not at 3R and I would be if I reverted. Dougweller (talk) 05:15, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

See - I've raised the issue at ANI and notified him/her. Dougweller (talk) 19:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Romano-Germanic culture

Hey Ogre if you got anytime please take a look at the Romano-Germanic culture article, and see if there is anything you can do to help bring it up to par, thanks. --Lucius Sempronius Turpio (talk) 18:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

May 2009

Please stop. If you continue to delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at Talk:White American, you will be blocked for vandalism. I dream of horses (talk) 17:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Relax I dream of horses! It was a mistake! No need for an immediate maximum level warning. I already apologised. Cheers. The Ogre (talk) 17:24, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I saw that you've gotten max-level warnings in the past. I should assumed good faith. Again, accept my apologies. --I dream of horses (talk) 17:26, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

No worries! I did get max level warnings, but from vandals and sockpuppets. I just make a policy never to delete anything in my talk page, except for obvious vandalism. See you around! The Ogre (talk) 17:28, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Olives

Thanks for your answer to my question about "curing" olives. Benkeboy (talk) 09:32, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Vietnam

What are you up to? You don't accept that "Nam Viet" and "Nanyue" are the same thing? "Nam Viet" is a redirect to "Nanyue". They are the same Chinese characters. It's a Vietnamese reading vs. a Chinese reading. Kauffner (talk) 16:16, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Benjamin Cardozo

Dear Ogre, I think we're getting somewhere. It can be argued that in a perfect world we would all be racially, ethnically, religiously color blind, but real people make these decisions, and some of them aren't. I've been working a wee bit on James Clark McReynolds, and he wouldn't talk to Cardozo and refused to sit next to Brandeis. Happy editing. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:37, 2 June 2009 (UTC) Stan

Ogre- please help me restore the section we all worked on concerning Cardozo's ethnicity. Some knucklehead went in there and took it all out (and he/she did it several times, so I can't do a regular revert)The Original Historygeek (talk) 03:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok- looks like User:Magidin had the original info stored and has restored the original.The Original Historygeek (talk) 03:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Re:IP Robot

Probably not with that template, because technically he is unauthorized (that I know of); however, there doesn't seem to be any harm in the small amount of interwiki editing he's doing, so it might be best to just leave him alone for now (although occasionally keep an eye on him of course :)).   JJ (talk) 14:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

No problem. :)   JJ (talk) 00:39, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Magalhães

Olá. Na página de Fernão de Magalhães diz que ele obteve a nacionalidade espanhola, de forma a poder trabalhar para a coroa espanhola,um argumento sem bases. Não tem nenhuma referência, neste caso, fonte primária que assim o ateste. Para além de eles sempre referido como natural de Portugal, foi-lhe imposto que os filhos e netos nascessem em terras da coroa de Espanha algo muito estranho para exigir de alguem que fosse espanhol. "cavallero natural del reyno de Portugal" "impone a los capitulantes que, para que sus herederos les sucedan en la gobernación y adelantamiento, han de ser naturales de la Corona de Castilla y casados en ell" Como tudo nessa época era documentado, qual o documento que lhe deu nacionalidade espanhola? Algo parecido acontece com João Dias de Solis Juan Díaz de Solís lá porque serviu Espanha não significa que era espanhol mesmo porque havia tantos espanhois a servir Portugal nessa época. Obrigada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.214.230.10 (talk) 12:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

A naturalização, alteração de nacionalidade, era feita através de "carta de naturalização" em Portugal e na Espanha "carta de naturaleza", durante a época medieval. Tal carta nunca foi encontrada. Vassalagem, bem... os reis prestavam uns aos outros. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.214.185.33 (talk) 15:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Warning regarding talk page canvassing

Please cease and desist from contacting perceived opponents of images in the White people article on their talk pages , as this may be considered disruptive canvassing. Indeed, since your canvassing messages are irreversible (the recipients will see them, even if they are reverted), I would suggest if you were to make any further edits to the White people article, thereby augmenting and endorsing the benefits to your position which you have derived from your disruptive canvassing, it might be considered a blockable offense. Erik9 (talk) 17:14, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

This matter is now being discussed at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard#Disruptive_canvassing_on_the_White_people_article. Erik9 (talk) 17:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the above, it is apparent that you contacted editors likely to be sympathetic to a certain viewpoint only - in contravention of WP:CANVASS. Please note that such actions are contrary to the pillar of WP:Consensus, and that repeated violations (even if in good faith) give rise to the possibility of sanctions. LessHeard vanU (talk) 18:40, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Call for opinion on a neutrality accusation in a human genetics related article

As a fellow member of the WikiProject HGH may I ask for opinions on this accusation?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 12:02, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Sephardic Jews mosaic image

Hi!

I liked the mosaic you made very much...Can you please add to the image (in anew row perhaps) these three ones:Baruj Benacerraf•Claude Cohen-Tannoudji•Rita Levi-Montalcini? They are highely notable Sephardics of modern times.

Best--Gilisa (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

White People article

Jews are not widely considered white.--Something12356789101 (talk) 12:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't live in America so the census is not important to me, nevertheless I will not press the issue again.--Something12356789101 (talk) 12:41, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Category:Portuguese-language surnames

As indicated both at the category page (Articles without references must be promptly removed.) and as discussed at Category talk:Surnames and in the prior AFD and DRV, yes, they do need a source. Or you think we should continue to claim Aaron is Egyptian because you find it "obvious"? Now, I'm asking you nicely to revert those edits. Otherwise, I will revert them myself as considered vandalism, and report you. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

That's better, but do you really consider and reliable sources as defined at WP:RS? And this site doesn't say "Son of Alvaro" at all. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:45, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Help

Podrías tu corregir os errores do artigo Extremaduran language, porfavor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by El estremeñu (talk • contribs) 23:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Podrías tu corregir os errores lingüisticos, do artigo Extremaduran language, eu soi un falante nativo de espanhol. Porfavor. Un saludo --El estremeñu (talk) 20:21, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

important news

I think there is a very dangerous section in the NPOV policy, which I deleted and discussed on the talk page here. Now there is an RfC, I hope you will comment. Slrubenstein | Talk 06:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

List of Portuguese monarchs nominated at FLRC

I have nominated List of Portuguese monarchs for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here.--Crzycheetah 05:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Capital Madrid

If you just know a few of iberian history, you should know that their capital was Madrid!.... ..wow man, i just read a few seconds your discussion page and how show your hate of ALL Spain so much.. just cuz you are portuguese dont have to Hate sure to spanish stuff, man!, or at least try to be neutral...... peace, Spain love you --Venerock (talk) 17:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

see again the article Iberian Union, do you like now? man =D --Venerock (talk) 19:43, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Iberian Union

¡Hola, Ogre!. He estado echando un vistazo al artículo Iberian Union, y he visto lo siguiente:

• Efectivamente, es Felipe II quien establece de forma permanente todo el aparato administrativo en Madrid, ni la incorporación ni independencia de Portugal, ni la independencia de las Provincias Unidas, ni la revuelta de Cataluña..., modificaron el sistema. Como el lugar para indicarlo no es la leyenda de un mapa, he ampliado el artículo con todo el sistema administrativo de la Monarquía Española como un todo, y específicamente el del reino de Portugal, durante este periodo.
• También he visto que el artículo está descompensado, puesto que incide más en la Restauração que en el periodo concreto de 1580-1640. El contenido de los apartados Decline of the Union and revolt of Portugal y Restoration War and the end of the Union son casi idénticos a los apartados Events leading to revolution y Preparations for wars del artículo Portuguese Restoration War. Y si encima Iberian Union trata en Origins of the House of Braganza sobre reinado de Juan IV, pues todavía lo entiendo menos. Creo que habría que trasladar contenidos de Iberian Union a Portuguese Restoration War o a una nueva página sobre la Restauração, y dejar centrado el artículo Iberian Union para los Habsburgos españoles en Portugal, y no para la guerra de independencia, que es como está ahora.

Recibe un saludo. Trasamundo (talk) 10:18, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Duarte Lopez

Olá, Ogre.

I'm thinking that maybe you or someone you know could start the article for Duarte Lopez a Portuguese explorer after whom, for example, cape Lopez is named. I was surprised that there is no entry for him at the Portuguese wikipedia either, so that would be good to start something, dont you think?

Cheers. MOUNTOLIVE _{fedeli alla linea} 02:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Maps

Why do they do it? This happens every six months. Red4tribe, Cosialscastells, EuroHistoryTeacher now this guy. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 12:07, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

You might be interested in

You might be interested in http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Black_African_genetic_contribution_to_the_population_of_the_European_continent

Algarve

Viva,

Sou o editor Xaman79 mas encontro-me bloqueado e por isso tenho que deixar esta mensagem de forma anónima. Reparei que tens removido alguns links de spams no artigo do Algarve, tal como eu tenho feito com outros, mas neste momento encontro-me em discussão com um editor e um admin porque decidiram remover todos os links, incluindo o link para o site da Região de Turismo do Algarve, do Allgarve e do Algarve Digital sem se terem justificado de forma adequada. Especialmente o link para o VisitAlgarve.pt está nesse artigo à anos e julgo não existir qualquer dúvida de que é apropriado para esse artigo.

Se não for pedir muito, gostava que te juntasses à discussão aqui e partilhasses a tua opinião, mesma que não seja a mesma que a minha, mas acredito que poderás não concordar com tudo o que disse, ou a forma como o fiz, mas se nunca removestes os sites que referi é porque deverias concordar que eram adequados para esse artigo. Agradeço-te de qualquer forma, mesmo que não possas fazer nada ou não queiras.

Quanto ao facto de estar bloqueado não te preocupes, não vou tentar adicionar os links de forma anónima, apenas estou a escrever esta mensagem porque não quero esperar 3 dias para ter a opinião de alguém neutro sobre esta discussão. Alguma coisa deixa mensagem na minha página de discussão, onde posso responder mesmo bloquado. Obrigado.

September 2009

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not on House of Braganza. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. I'd like to know what I'm all about? Pevernagie (talk) 14:01, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Do note...

Portuguese people in Brazil- Let me ask you- where did the bRAZILLIANS'S white skin colour and white features come from? As stated on Brazilians; "Brazilians are mostly descendants of colonial and post-colonial Portuguese settlers and immigrants, African slaves and Brazil's indigenous peoples. If you says that they are a seperate ethnic groups, then you are wrong. The whites are not the indengious people of Brazil. They came from Europe. You are implying that they are the indengious people of Brazil! And that is when they still have white features. Those who are of mixed descent need not be in a seperate group. For example, Hugo Chavez is a mestizo of mixed Spanish, African and Indengious descent. So he can be classified as Venezuelans of Spanish/ African/ Indengious descent. You are impliying that it is as good that Hugo CHavez is a Venezuelan of VEnezuelan descent! That is extremely inaccurate. Another example; Felipe Massa had an Italian-BRazilian grandfather. Even though he is not Italian, however, he is still an Italian Brazilian. You are impliying that Felipe Massa is a Brazilian of Brazilian descent! Then where did his Italian surname come from? Therefore- Brazilians need not be of full Portuguese descent. As long as they have some Portuguese descent, they can be classified as Portuguese Brazilians. My apologies if they are too harsh.

L'Ours et lune (talk) 15:15, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Ogre, thank you for the work you did re-organizing the "Iberian" disambiguation page (Iberian). In the process of repairing links to it, I came across several other "Iberian" meanings, so I added them. I was going to re-organize them when I was finished with the link-repair project. But you did a better job than I could have. If you check "What links here" on the page, you will see that there are still a few remaining (less than ten). I couldn't correct them because an expert needed to look at them. So feel free to complete the repairs! Kind regards, -- Biglovinb (talk) 22:56, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Maia

Someone has disorganized the entire 'Maia' topics. 'Maia, Portugal' has been moved to 'Maia, Porto, Portugal' and a page called 'Maia Municipality' was created to distinguish from the city proper..but no other portuguese municipality has a page like that.

Can you please move 'Maia, Porto, Portugal' back to 'Maia, Portugal' and delete 'Maia (city)' which redirects from 'Maia, Portugal'? thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Califate123! (talk • contribs) 11:56, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic groups

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic groups. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Misplaced Pages:Notability and "What Misplaced Pages is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Y-DNA haplogroups by ethnic groups. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.

Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Racism in Portugal

O artigo Racism in Portugal parece muito confuso. A história do racismo vem desde as origens paleolíticas dos portugueses , as invasões celtas etc, como se isso tivesse alguma relevância e racismo envolvido. A confusão entre racismo e xenofobia e migrações é evidente. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.140.82.255 (talk) 16:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Article Brazil

Ogre, could you please take a look in here and give your opinion about it? Thank you very much. The editor Rahlgd insists on adding information about projects that did not begin to be developed yet and are nothing more than plans. --Lecen (talk) 03:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Bartolomeu Dias

Bartolomeu Dias died on the 24th May NOT 29th May as you are claiming. The only original source for the death of Bartolomeu Dias is "The Anonymous Narrative", which was written by a surviving member of the crew. It clearly states this on page 61 : http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BwwqPJpqoX8C&pg=PA53&dq=william+brooks+greenlee+anonymous+narrative&ei=ngU6S4_HJI3CzgS8mtHPAQ&cd=1#v=onepage&q=&f=false --90.207.102.71 (talk) 14:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Contemporary historians Castanheda and De Barros subsequently also give this date as being 24th May. --90.207.102.71 (talk) 14:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Ownership in article Brazil

Hello. The article Brazil has several issues, the main one is the fact that it's simply huge and overly detailed. In accordance with Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Countries and taking as model other Featured class articles such as Canada, India and Peru as I explained in here. As I made the changes, I explained carefully why and where I made them such as in here.

However, editor Rahlgd reverted all with no explanation at all as it can be seen in here. He is the only one who can edit the article without being reverted. Just see the history log in it. Also, this is not the first time he reverts an edit.

His behavior is clearly ownership. Please, help us. --Lecen (talk) 01:35, 30 December 2009 (UTC)