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Rollback request

Hi Sarah,

From time to time I find myself reverting vandalism in articles I'm watching or where ever I find it, and its a bit of a pain because I do all my edits manually (because I edit from various - ahem, work, - locations). I was thinking having rollback might help, and was wondering if you'd grant it for me please. I promise I'll be appropriate with it (yes, I've read WP:ROLLBACK) and although I'm not likely to suddenly become wikipedias most prolific rollbacker (you'll notice I come and go a bit, since the real world is a lot more demanding of my time), I think it'd be a useful tool. Thanks, and happy new year! Mattopaedia 13:15, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Matt, happy to do that for you and have now turned it on. I'm sure you know what you're doing but the main rule is that it's only for vandalism and such that are self-explanatory reverts to anyone looking at the edit and don't require an explanation by edit summary. You should start noticing a link on your watchlist and when looking at the history of a page, it will display only next to the most recent edit. When you click it, it will revert the last edit or the last series of edits by one person, so just be careful, if someone has made a series of consecutive edits and you don't want to rollback the whole set, your best bet is either undo or reverting by hand. If you run into any problems or need any help or have any questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. A happy new year to you and yours, too, Matt. Cheers, Sarah 14:02, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Hi Sarah, Just wishing you a happy and safe new year. Hope you have a lovely 2010. — Deon 14:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Mr Deon! I was just thinking about you tonight! I was meaning to leave you a message, how psychic is that! I hope everything is well with you and glad to see you're still around and I hope you and your family have a very happy year ahead. Would be great to see you at another meetup some time in the future. :) Cheers, Sarah 15:32, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy New Year! I hope you have a happy, safe and successful year. Bidgee (talk) 00:49, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Bidgee and same to you. I enjoyed meeting you in Canberra and getting to know you a bit in person and hope that you'll be able to get involved in future Wikimedia Australia projects. I hope you and your family have a very happy and healthy 2010. Cheers, Sarah 00:54, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome. I also enjoyed meeting yourself and the others who make up the Australian editors (even though it wasn't all of them of cause!). I'm hoping to get down to Melbourne some time for a day or two visit but also Canberra and hoping for Sydney or s Perth some where in there! Though this week I'm feeling older (Five more years and I'll be the big Three O, :S). Bidgee (talk) 14:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, Bidgee, you're getting so old! :p Wait until you see the really big 4-0 on the horizon and then you'll really have something to be feeling old about! lol Happy birthday, I hope you have a very nice birthday and don't worry, 25 is still very much a spring chicken.:) Sarah 02:04, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Aegisint and the Talk tab

Thanks for helping to educate Aegisint. I just have one comment. There is no Talk tab on an article page. It's called Discussion. As a relatively new user I was very confused over this for a while. Maybe it changed fairly recently, but it seems the habit of well established editors to refer to "Talk" when, in fact, they must be using "Discussion". I also acknowledge that there are many references to Talk, but not at the top of an article page.

I know what you meant, but I'm not sure Aegisint will. I'll put a small clarification on his Talk(?) page. HiLo48 (talk) 11:27, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll go back and change that, don't want to confuse him. Mine actually does say "talk" on article pages but I think I installed some monobook javascript ages ago that changed it and I forgot it normally says discussion. Thanks! Sarah 11:45, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Leveque

• Leveque (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

What would you think of extending Leveque's block to indef, since his continued puppetry indicates he is unlikely to have a change of heart? Unless it is extended, the block on his main account will expire on 19 January. EdJohnston (talk) 06:24, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

(after ec)I would agree wholeheartedly, Ed. He's obviously not here to work on articles and just seems to want to fill userpages up with his external links. I agree that it seems very unlikely at this point that he will have a change of heart, but if he does he can appeal to the unblock list. There's really no reason to allow him to return automatically in two weeks if we don't have a reasonable idea that he's going to behave and use the project appropriately. I will go and extend the block now. Sarah 06:43, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Archiving

I see that Werdnabot is nagging you. If you are interested in trying MiszaBot, you could do this (after removing Werdnabot's existing template):

{{User:MiszaBot/config
|maxarchivesize = 250K
|counter = 20
|algo = old(7d)
|archive = User talk:Sarah/Archive%(counter)d
}}

The template must be expanded over all lines as shown. More at User:MiszaBot/Archive HowTo. MiszaBot is in the Werdnabot tradition, though the template is not exactly the same. EdJohnston (talk) 06:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh, excellent, thanks Ed! I was just thinking earlier today that I really should get around to changing to another bot. Thanks heaps for that! I've just reblocked Leveque indef. Cheers, Sarah 06:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I've changed them over. I'm not very good with these archive bots and when I started using Werdna's bot, I had to email him to come and set it up for me! Thanks again Ed, much appreciate your assistance with that. Cheers, Sarah 06:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Behringer

You looked in to the users involved in the Behringer dispute. I stopped assuming good faith back in October, so could you run a check on User:Minto2. I am incredibly suspicious when new users show up and take up old arguments. Thedarxide (talk) 08:55, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Thedarxide. Yes, I agree that account does appear extremely suspect. I feel a bit hesitant to block on the basis of one talk page edit though, so I will keep an eye on it and see what they do, but if more keep appearing and being tendentious, we should request a checkuser. I'm on Factiva at the moment and will try to add some more newspaper sources later to augment and reinforce the ones there in the controversy sections. Happy new year, Sarah 03:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy new year

From the land out west - may Melbourne of 2010 be sufficiently celebrated ... SatuSuro 03:15, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you dear, sir, and likewise to you and your lovely family. I hope 2010 is a happy, healthy and prosperous one for us all. :) Sarah 04:00, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Indeed down to everyone of us all :) SatuSuro 04:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Attempt to split up the COI complaint

Hi Sarah: Thanks for your sage input! Could you please take a look at what User Debresser (talk · contribs) has done now, he has split up the very serious case at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#User:Yehoishophot Oliver by starting a frivolous side show at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Tendentious editing by User:IZAK and I have responded there at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Response from IZAK and requested admin intervention to consolidate all discussions between the parties at the starting point where all the evidence sits at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#User:Yehoishophot Oliver, as I have now also noted at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#Attempt at splitting this discussion. Happy new year and hope you can help keep this serious WP:COI case stay on track and not let it get bogged down and derailed by distractions and red herrings and other attempts to kill it. IZAK (talk) 13:54, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

I've commented on ANI but these discussions are really reaching the point of uselessness because they are so long and extensive that very few outside uninvolved people will be willing to sit down and look into it properly. Sarah 06:40, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Final arguments in COI complaint against Yehoishophot Oliver, Shlomke, Zsero, Debresser

The WP:COI complaint of pro-Chabad POV editing and violations of WP:OWN in Chabad-related articles against Users Yehoishophot Oliver (talk · contribs) and Shlomke (talk · contribs) and Zsero (talk · contribs) and Debresser (talk · contribs), is now in its final stages as admins review it. The debate and discussions have expanded greatly since their start. If any outside party still wishes to add their comments and observations, now is the time. New sections have been added at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#User:Yehoishophot Oliver. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 06:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey there!

Hey Sarah! Just saw your name as it popped up on my watchlist and thought I'd pop over to say hey! :-) I hope you're well - I haven't had chance to say hi for a long time. I've just started a new degree in law (don't worry, I didn't mess up my pharmacology degree - I graduated and then went on to get my masters in biomedical and forensic science!) - bit of a change from what I originally did, but I'd like to move into human rights law. Anyway, I hope you're well! Take care, Ryan Postlethwaite 01:51, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi Ryan, very glad to hear from you! That's great; don't worry, I knew that you'd finished your Pharmacology course and had started the forensic science masters. I'd love to do something like that, it seems like a really interesting field. It sounds like you're collecting degrees! Either that or you don't want to get a "real" job! :p Human rights law is a really good and worthwhile field to go into. I hope you enjoy the law course. Hope you had a happy Christmas and new year and have a fantastic 2010. Thanks for dropping by, it's really nice to hear from you. Cheers, Sarah 01:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Chabad on Misplaced Pages arbitration request

Since you have been kind enough to comment at the unresolved WP:COI case at Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard/User:Yehoishophot Oliver, you may wish to know that it has now been nominated for arbitration. Feel free to review at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Chabad on Misplaced Pages and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the following resources may be of use—

• Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Requesting Arbitration;
• Misplaced Pages:Arbitration guide.

Thank you for your input and patience, IZAK (talk) 09:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC)