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RfA again

Hi Doug. It's a year since my RfA and I'm thinking of having another go. Would you want to nom again? (A rather hair-raising process last time, so if not, will understand). Moreschi seems to be away for a couple of weeks otherwise I would ask him too. All the best. Itsmejudith (talk) 16:29, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Have you read through the last couple of months of RfAs to see the sorts of questions asked, expectations, etc? Some things have changed in the last year. Dougweller (talk) 16:43, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Will do that now, thanks Doug. Itsmejudith (talk) 01:24, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Possible Split article, Fringe migration map, and according to talkpage, perhaps also Copy vio?

Merry Christmas Doug. Ever see this? History of the Hittites --Andrew Lancaster (talk) 20:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. This I feel comfortable with, I'll do something tomorrow. Dougweller (talk) 22:26, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
Hi Doug. I was not sure what the above meant, so I was keeping an eye out. BTW, by "split" I should have written "fork". It was the odd map that caught my attention, showing Hittites coming from the Caucasus and then moving on to Greece, but also, according to the link noted on the talkpage the basis of this History article is also copied from elsewhere on the internet.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Scandals of Najib Tun Razak

Seeing that you have taken an interest in this article. I would like to bring to your attention a pattern of abuse whereby a serial vandal who continually whitewashes articles, Monkeyassault such as Najib Tun Razak and Scandals of Najib Tun Razak, it would be better for you to look at this discussion topic Talk:Najib_Tun_Razak#Over-protectionism_though_abuse_of_COATRACK.2FWP:BLP_claims. There were no particular instant that this individual made an effort to seek consensus. He continued to whitewash and conduct edit-warring at the Najib Tun Razak article, which let to the article being frozen for a few weeks. The Scandals of Najib Tun Razak article was created in the interim to put all the whitewashed information done by this individual that would later be reinstated in the main article. It would be a better solution to freeze the main article Najib Tun Razak from further edits until consensus has been achieved, provided if you have admin priveleges. Roman888 (talk) 17:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I do, but this should be discussed at ANI where I brought it up, not here. Dougweller (talk) 17:14, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
I have already put my comments on the ANI topic and would appreciate your kind action. I also would like to bring to your attention a transgression that took place in my talk page whereby the individual mentioned threaten me - User_talk:Roman888#ANI_discussion_about_the_article_you_recently_created Roman888 (talk) 17:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

No one has threatened you. When an incident is reported in ANI all parties involved should be notified. Monkeyassault (talk) 18:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Edits that make you go "huh?"

Maybe you can explain this one to me. Was the Quran ever written in Elizabethan English? That's a new one on me. Actually, maybe this is a recreation of that old Quaker thing, using the antiquated singular pronouns instead of the "uppity" plural ones.

Of course, the reasoning behind the usage in the fundamentalist church I attended as a youth was that the Bible (KJV of course) was written with those old pronouns so they were a part of "God's language." So I don't know what this fellow's thinking. What's your opinion? Auntie E. 17:46, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Some people just think it sounds good. Probably an American (like me). Right now I'm trying to revert a lot of edits adding categories 'American Jew' or 'American Jewish politician', and may go after the cats themselves - see Misplaced Pages:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality. Tsm2009 (talk · contribs) seems here only to add these categories. Dougweller (talk) 17:59, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

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Pie

Thank you for the cookies. Have some pie!

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I apologise for offending your sensibilities

I seem to have also violated WP:POINT, but my antipathy toward prejudice in its very many varied forms is such that I will sometimes use distasteful or offensive language to drive home the point that there is a duty of care for all of us to avoid reinforcing stereotypes or making assumptions upon any large group of diverse people. The terms and colloquialisms I used were deliberately provocative, in that perhaps as little as 50 years ago they were part of common language in many places but are now rightly considered offensive. However, that means I have also possibly offended some readers. I sincerely regret that. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:08, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. They certainly were common language then, and worse. I marched with Martin Luther King -- those terms are mild compared to the abuse being thrown at us then. Dougweller (talk) 12:11, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
Ah, such is the anonymity of WP. I attended the "Nelson Mandela Birthday Party" in Hyde Park, lived near Southall and worked near Brixton when the riots (which were only racial in that the Metropolitan Police and especially the Special Patrol Group targeted members of ethnic groups that were not white, and provoked the situations in each case) took place.
I am pleased to have met someone who has also taken part in the struggle against ignorance and foolishness. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:28, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
As one human to another, thank you for marching - we live in a better world today because of you. - 2/0 (cont.) 07:37, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

WVBluefield

If you could share your opinion of the evidence and general impressions at User_talk:WVBluefield#December_2009, it would be appreciated. Thank you. Vassyana (talk) 01:49, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

--Jastcaan (talk) 11:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year

Happy New Year

Best Wishes for 2010, FloNight♥♥♥♥ 11:51, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Outside opinion on civility

Hello! I'm looking for an outside opinion on a Wikiquette request raised against me. You were very rational and reasonable last summer when we were dealing with User:Rock5410, and I trust your opinion. I know you will tell me if I'm out of line. So far the only other editor who has commented is someone else involved with the content dispute, and I'd appreciate hearing from someone totally unfamiliar with the background. The question is whether the phrase "forum shopping" is uncivil. If you have a few minutes to add a quick comment, I would greatly appreciate it. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 14:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind. I appreciate your time. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 16:11, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Doug. Don't want to seem intrusive. Just wanted to mention that I actually find WeisheitSuchen a great guy who edits very sensibly most of the times. It's unfortunate that I've had to raise the Wikiquette request. But as much as I can forecast, I think he's one guy I'll recommend in the future to help me edit pages that I am having trouble with. Just a note, if it counts for anything. Thanks ▒ Wirεłεşş ▒ Fidεłitұ ▒ Ćłâşş ▒ Θnε ▒ ―Œ 09:32, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
It's nice to hear you say that. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 12:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Testing

Thank you. KnightLago (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Mardyks

I think it's fairly obvious that he's sockpuppeting 2012 phenomenon. He has a record of (ridiculously lame) attempts at sockpuppetry in the past (including referring to himself in the third person and then signing his posts with his own name). I don't particularly want to get into a fight with him again, but I can't figure out how to report a sockpuppet. If you could help I'd be very grateful. Serendious 17:02, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Has there been something recent? I've got the article on my watchlist. Dougweller (talk) 21:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Zoroaster

I don't mind Hart being removed from articles but from basically a popular culture section I don't see any reason to remove the mentioning of the book. I think the Hart book is more notable than the passing of the name in Bryan Ferry’s ‘Mother of Pearl’ for instance. Garion96 (talk) 22:39, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Wide or narrow categorization

Hi, you deleted "Category:underwater ruins" and "Category:sunken cities" from Yonaguni Monument. While I agree that the chances of the site being human-modified are slim, the claim exists, and methinks that Misplaced Pages ought not pass judgement on that. Besides, if categories serve any purpose, it is to help readers find articles *related to* a given topic, not just on things that squarely fit the definition of the topic. In that sense, for example, Venusians and Mayan calendar belongs to the Category:Venus; and Yonaguni Monument and Atlantis belong to Category:Sunken cities, I woudl say. All the best, --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 01:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Re:Categories

I had originally put the people in the cat on ooparts but they really talk about multiple pseudoarch topics so instead of adding them to the all the sub cats I just put them in the main cat. As far as the underwater ruins your right, could go either way. Jmm6f488 (talk) 13:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Ballandean Pyramid

Nice job; I was chipping away at the layers of bullshit, but hadn't got round to researching properly.   pablohablo. 16:37, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. And see File:Ballandean pyramid.jpg, which the editor says he/she created last month, and from 2006. Dougweller (talk) 16:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
The place certainly hasn't changed much in 3 years.   pablohablo. 16:51, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Chabad on Misplaced Pages arbitration request

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