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I propose to also use this picture in the article http://www.mousavi.im/BahaiBC.jpg and currently tracing the copyright holder to be granted its use on Misplaced Pages. All of the aforementioned are 100% relative to this article, though my case here is rather large, I will try to make its mentioning in the article to the point, NPOV, and short outlining what has been said. --] (]) 01:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC) | I propose to also use this picture in the article http://www.mousavi.im/BahaiBC.jpg and currently tracing the copyright holder to be granted its use on Misplaced Pages. All of the aforementioned are 100% relative to this article, though my case here is rather large, I will try to make its mentioning in the article to the point, NPOV, and short outlining what has been said. --] (]) 01:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Satelite Jamming dispute == | |||
:The source states that the satellite operator (i.e. Eutelsat, NOT the BBC) confirmed that the jamming was originating from Iran. ] (]) 16:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC) | :The source states that the satellite operator (i.e. Eutelsat, NOT the BBC) confirmed that the jamming was originating from Iran. ] (]) 16:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC) | ||
: Here are the 2 sources you are using: http://blogs.rnw.nl/medianetwork/bbc-adds-more-satellites-for-its-persian-tv-service ; http://blogs.rnw.nl/medianetwork/bbc-says-its-satellite-broadcasts-being-disrupted-from-iran . They both mention BBC's view, and I am being kind not attacking the credibility of your sourcing, but you should always source the original, in this case the originals come from AFP and BBC Press release which I have checked. | |||
Never the less, out of the sources you provided, only 1 part mentions or concerns an accusation of signal jamming origination. | |||
"The BBC said today that the satellites it uses to broadcast in Persian were being jammed from Iran, disrupting its reports on the hotly-disputed presidential election. The corporation said television and radio services had been affected from 1245 UTC Friday onwards by “heavy electronic jamming” which had become “progressively worse”. Satellite technicians had traced the interference to Iran, it said. | |||
The satellites its uses in the Middle East to broadcast BBC Persian television to Iran were being affected, meaning that audiences in Iran, the Middle East and Europe would likely experience disruption. BBC Arabic television and other language services had also experienced transmission problems, the corporation said." | |||
My editing is concise and adherent to the NPOV, as i've written that the BBC's technicians beleive the jamming signal to originate from Iran, not only concurrent with your 3rd class sources, but also the original BBC Press release. Unless you can cite a scientific document, or a valid source independent of the BBC (since this article concerns BBC, Misplaced Pages encourages non-BBC sources to adhere to NPOV) proving the Satelite signal to be from Iran. Such accusation are serious and Iran could face fines and trials if it is found to be jamming signal as it is illegal, so if you have prove, send it to the U.N. they will be more than willing to accept. --] (]) 11:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC) | |||
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Accussations by Iranian Journalists of Bahai domination in BBC Persian and VOA News
Firstly, this was raised before, however Rapido was very rapid at reverting and denying the well based critcism Iran and its media has presented against the BBC, and that is that the majority of the BBC Persian's administrative team is of the Bahai in faith, a criticism which implies consequences such as an opiniated BBC favouring the Bahai view on Irans political climate, amongst other issues such as violating BBC's internal policy of employment, which disfavours strong pockets of a single faith or ethnic group to provide a team consisting of a general mix representative of its target audience. When taking into consideration the tiny minority of the British Iranians who are Bahai's, it defies statistics to see such concentrations at the BBC, in it self displaying deliberate discrimination unless the BBC can prove they all were the best applicants for the job over the 1000's of muslims who applied.
I will proceed to add a Criticism's section and thereby, include Irans official view, and the individual criticisms made by Iranian journalists from various papers with regards to this matter, and also write to the BBC and see what they have to say about the situation to present both sides, but I doubt an embarrasing almost "racist" discriminative employment policy of the BBC will see any press release or replies. I also object to use the word "Controversies" as a heading as it isn't synonoumous with other media based Misplaced Pages articles where the majority use "Criticisms"to umbrella the content currently placed here under controversies.
There are more than enough sources that meet Misplaced Pages guidelines that detail the Bahai disproportional mix in the BBC Persian dept. from newspaper articles, to news channel broadcasts. There has been countless of protests in Tehran, Shiraz, Ahvaz and the Northern region, as well as in London, Italy and other western areas with Iranians calling the BBC things such as "Bahai Broadcasting Corporation" amongst other chants.
For anyone wanting to do a bit of self research, you can research the names of the administrative, editing and presenting team on BBC Persian and realize the majority are self-declared Bahai's. Off wikipedia, I am also reporting via direct.gov.uk the BBC for discriminative employment practices, and will also request the governments view on this matter.
I propose to also use this picture in the article http://www.mousavi.im/BahaiBC.jpg and currently tracing the copyright holder to be granted its use on Misplaced Pages. All of the aforementioned are 100% relative to this article, though my case here is rather large, I will try to make its mentioning in the article to the point, NPOV, and short outlining what has been said. --94.193.135.142 (talk) 01:19, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Satelite Jamming dispute
- The source states that the satellite operator (i.e. Eutelsat, NOT the BBC) confirmed that the jamming was originating from Iran. Rapido (talk) 16:48, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
- Here are the 2 sources you are using: http://blogs.rnw.nl/medianetwork/bbc-adds-more-satellites-for-its-persian-tv-service ; http://blogs.rnw.nl/medianetwork/bbc-says-its-satellite-broadcasts-being-disrupted-from-iran . They both mention BBC's view, and I am being kind not attacking the credibility of your sourcing, but you should always source the original, in this case the originals come from AFP and BBC Press release which I have checked.
Never the less, out of the sources you provided, only 1 part mentions or concerns an accusation of signal jamming origination.
"The BBC said today that the satellites it uses to broadcast in Persian were being jammed from Iran, disrupting its reports on the hotly-disputed presidential election. The corporation said television and radio services had been affected from 1245 UTC Friday onwards by “heavy electronic jamming” which had become “progressively worse”. Satellite technicians had traced the interference to Iran, it said.
The satellites its uses in the Middle East to broadcast BBC Persian television to Iran were being affected, meaning that audiences in Iran, the Middle East and Europe would likely experience disruption. BBC Arabic television and other language services had also experienced transmission problems, the corporation said."
My editing is concise and adherent to the NPOV, as i've written that the BBC's technicians beleive the jamming signal to originate from Iran, not only concurrent with your 3rd class sources, but also the original BBC Press release. Unless you can cite a scientific document, or a valid source independent of the BBC (since this article concerns BBC, Misplaced Pages encourages non-BBC sources to adhere to NPOV) proving the Satelite signal to be from Iran. Such accusation are serious and Iran could face fines and trials if it is found to be jamming signal as it is illegal, so if you have prove, send it to the U.N. they will be more than willing to accept. --94.193.135.142 (talk) 11:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
Cunando
Please refrain from wiping out the discussion page, if you have concerns please reply here, if you are accusing my objection with "same unverified claims" please explain why they are unverified, are you suggesting Iran's media is not to see a voice on an international Misplaced Pages? Have you even bothered to read all of Misplaced Pages's guidelines? Are suggesting those guys protesting calling the BBC "Bahai Broadcasting Corp." as some photoshopped picture and those protests never happened? Or are you being dictatorial with your wikipedia actions?
You may only archive, and only when all parties in a discussion agree that the discussion is over, so do not undo or attempt to wipeout active discussions. I will report you, I have reported many of your kind successfully before and have no problem following the same routes again. --94.193.135.142 (talk) 11:10, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
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